#Who just drifted apart with time
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moongothic · 1 year ago
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So I have a Crocodile theory that I've been sitting on for a while. I have absolutely nothing to prove any of it whatsoever, and the only thing that really propels me to believe in it is that I think it would be cool if it were true.
I think Crocodile may have gotten his start as a cabin boy for the Rocks Pirates the same way Shanks and Buggy got their start with Roger. The trust issues would naturally follow from the way the Rocks Pirates probably turned on each other immediately following Rocks' death during the God Valley Incident. Seeing the crew you grew up on turn in on itself would make anyone wary of trusting others I think. It might also explain a portion of the animosity he had for Whitebeard as well. Obviously a lot of it comes from their clash during Croc's warlord days, but it might explain why he was so eager to go after Whitebeard in the first place. Him being at God Valley would also provide a solid point where he could have run into Ivankov, and potentially where Ivankov could have gotten some dirt on him, depending on whatever that dirt ends up being in Canon.
Even wilder speculation, but I think Mihawk might have been there as well. The two just seem to have this weird, unexplained rapport that doesn't yield itself to a whole lot of options other than a previous connection. They get in a fight at Marineford, and Crocodile walks away alive despite him being well below Mihawk's level. Croc feels it's enough to just let Mihawk know he's "in a real bad mood" and that seems to do the trick. Mihawk is the first person Crocodile talks to about his Cross Guild venture, and Mihawk doesn't take long to take him up on it. And Mihawk, in general, also just kind of lets Crocodile talk at him a lot for someone who was introduced to us as a person who would hunt you down for just interrupting his nap.
Like I said, I don't have a shred of evidence for any of this at all, but I do think it would be cool, and might explain a few things.
"Would be cool if true" THIS IS WHAT FUN THEORIES ARE BASED ON 👏👏👏 We're HERE to get EXCITED about COOL IDEAS
Honestly I much prefer "random cabin boy for Xebec" over Xebec's son on just vibes alone, but also it'd make Crocodile losing interest on Whitebeard in Marineford much more palatable. Because if Whitebeard betrayed his dad on top of kicking his ass then surely he wouldn't assist in saving Ace, regardless of what his relationship with Luffy and/or the Revs may or may not have been. But if he was a cabin boy, yeah, that'd give him the trust issues but without it being THAT personal
Not sure if Mihawk would've been on the same ship though... IDK looking at the bby Shichibukai art, bby Hawk looks quite messy and disheveled compared to bby Croc- if they were raised in similar circumstances on Xebec' ship you'd think their art would look about the same. Also if I'm not misremembering, Crocodile would've been 9 during the God Valley incident, and Mihawk is 3 years younger than him so he would've been just 6. I dunno, if anything I'd be more willing to bet money on Moria having been on the ship with Crocodile instead (since he would've been like 13, and based on bby Moria's art he looks like he kinda matches with Crocodile, that said there's nothing to prove the two have any kind of shared history whatsoever)... But yeah, if Mihawk was 6 at the time, I kind of doubt they were BOTH on Xebec's ship
That said. I'm fucking sure Crocodile and Mihawk have SOME kind of shared history. There's gotta be fucking SOMETHING, at SOME POINT, because yeah, as you said
Crocodile telling Mihawk he's in a shit mood is a passable warning to give to from like One Dangerous Warlord to Another, but it takes on a whole different tone if they knew each other a bit closer
Who knows, maybe they were both cabin boys on the same ship for someone else a few years later though, hell, for all we know Mihawk could've been on Crocodile's crew for a time
Also based on Kuma's flashback, we do see Kuma visit Mihawk's island in chapter 1099, and in 1100 when Mihawk sees the news of Kuma joining, he's awfully quiet. So if Mihawk and Kuma may have known each other even just briefly, yeah. Why the fuck couldn't Mihawk and Crocodile have some history too.
There's also this bit from Croc and Hawk's phonecall that interests me
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The "..." in the flashback panel
Like it's very normal for Oda to signal a character is thinking about something without saying anything about it by doing the little "..." (for example, Robin would've been well-aware of Moria as she did work for a Warlord herself, making this panel from Thriller Bark quite interesting), hell the phonecall flashback both begins and ends with Mihawk having simple "..." thought bubbles as he's thinking back to it
But the fact that he's Having A Thought about Crocodile being like "we're the same bro"... Oh they gotta have somekinda shared backstory somewhere, they've gotta, surely
And indeed, despite the fact that the two aren't supposed to trust anyone, they sure seem to trust each other enough to start a marine hunting organization together
(Also an interesting detail that, since we know they both hate the Marines a lot, so them starting an organization with that shared goal is just. Yeah. Interesting.)
One additional note I wanted to make because I just noticed this while browsing the Wiki; of the OG Warlords Mihawk is one of the few who we have no idea when he joined the Shichibukai, the only other one being Moria
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I really would be curious to hear when and how Mihawk joined, 'cause for all we know, he might've joined around the same time Crocodile did, which would definitely be interesting...
Man. Like I'm not particularly interested in Mihawk's backstory on its own, but if his backstory was somehow tied to Crocodile's... Oh I'd absolutely love to hear it. ODA PLEASE, SPILL THE BEANS
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vitaecryptid · 2 months ago
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Potential controversial opinion, but I wish more media and fanworks explored relationships where the couple find other forms of commitment than marriage and 2.5 kids in a nice house. Let them wander the world together. Let them be life partners that need their own space. Note that I'm not saying domestic stuff is bad! I just wish other forms of commitment also got love.
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suddencolds · 9 months ago
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#not snz and not a vent... just passive musing#had a dream two nights ago where someone who i used to know (and love a little) wished me goodbye with a#kiss to the hand before i flew away from them forever on a magic chair#which is very stud//io g//hi//bli-esque and frankly very unserious but#the feeling of grief i felt saying goodbye to a friendship which i had once held so close to me - and which i know can probably never#be as close as it was at that point in my life - stuck with me for a long time even after i woke up#it's been something i've been thinking about for awhile... but the dream felt like such a concrete and painful severance#i think that like a childish part of me wants to hold the people i'm close to at#the same distance and trust that they will stay there forever#but logically i know it's natural that the people i met under certain circumstances might drift apart once those circumstances change#for one or both of us... i guess friendship really is just a lucky convergence at one point in time where everything aligns#like i know this and i have known this for awhile but god does it hurt#especially those kinds of goodbyes that feel so gradual... not like a clear severing of ties but just a gradual disappearance#i think i probably have to not feel so hung up over what i used to have. and for the most part i am not; life goes on#but for those people?#i sometimes just miss them#there's a special kind of hurt knowing that i could reach out to them and say hello and that they would probably respond but that it might#never be quite the same again
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i maybe already posted about this but i’m finally getting through some of my insecurities because i’m realizing that it wasn’t my fault that i felt the way i did and it still hurts but i’m getting better
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clowngremlin · 1 year ago
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i had dreams involving one of my childhood best friends two nights in a row......what does it mean......
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driftwooddestiel · 9 months ago
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truly there is nothing scarier than a groupchat consisting of you, your close irl friend, and a friend of your irl friend who you dont know very well
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lorephobic · 2 years ago
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this comment has me tearing up like i literally cant imagine going through that i would've gone postal
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bunibelles · 1 year ago
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Intrusive thoughts hour 😭🫶🏼
#I need to check messages more often#I think my friend who graduated visited campus#and then I message their story#and read up after thinking huh I wonder how they’re doing#ONLY TO REALIZE I WAS THE ONE WHO NEVER READ THE MESSAGES 😭😭#so ngl it’s really my fault if smth doesn’t happen#cause it’ll be sad if I missed the one day they were here#like sometimes friends drift apart cause life gets busy#I know that#but also I miss them#and honestly it’s my fault a lot cause I’m like the worst at replying#I wish I had unlimited energy but that’s not it either#I know my mom said like if u really care u’d make time#and she’s right but also#a lot of times I don’t open messages cause I want to give people 110% when I respond back#but also that just kinda stops me from messaging people right??#like a terrible cycle that’s only in my head#I know it’s not a big deal#like my friend would probably be like haha I am on campus#but the instrusive thoughts are hitting deep rn </3#I miss u I wish I was better at reaching out I love u I hope ur doing well#small voice at the back of my head being like pls don’t forget about me#even tho girl it’s my own fault 😭#also another intrusive thought being like u only say all of this to justify not responding so honestly u could do better#and I can!!#so I should probably change this#hopefully it’s complicated… i say this a lot but it always gets back to this point#I hope people spam message me out of nowhere or don’t mind if I spam message them back#also irl stuff is actually busy cause extracurriculars are every single day 😭🫶🏼#Bella rambles
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doggirlnarcolepsy · 1 year ago
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moonlightperseus · 1 year ago
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oh my chest aches tonight
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fingertipsmp3 · 1 year ago
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Do you ever observe random people you went to high school with on your FB and you’re just like “you really went all around the world and still picked a boy from our hometown? Really?”
#this girl i used to tutor is now a flight attendant. which is cool#but she’s dating the fucking.. older brother of a guy who was in our class#like???? girl. you went EVERYWHERE and you picked. shane. REALLY?????#and i mean i know every man is somebody’s hometown boy but like. picking a man from your Own hometown after travelling the world#is a little wild to me. you’re telling me you saw czech men with their floofy hair and ginormous arms; american men who will do pushups#to impress you; enormous viking men; italian men and their… everything… and you picked SHANE from our hometown#like girl i left europe one time and immediately fell in love with an american man and had brain worms for three years#so maybe i just don’t get it. but liiiike…#i mean i can’t really say anything because who am i crushing on currently? my only age appropriate coworker#but in my defence; apart from like a few short holidays i have been here for 4 years now and i don’t plan on leaving any time soon#i mean i want to leave but i can’t. if you catch my drift#i think i am allowed to want a hometown boy if i am permanently in my hometown. if i’m jetting off to other countries every damn day?#madness. fall in unrequited love with the only man your age on the plane like a normal person#personal#(i am joking about all of this. before anyone says something like ‘you don’t understand their relationship’ no i don’t. i barely know these#people lol. i’m just saying things recreationally)
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theriverdalereviewer · 1 year ago
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REALIZED SOMETHING CRAZY ABOUT MYSELF…
#so fun fact about me: i really don’t give a fuck about having friends like that#I mean I do mostly in the form of my cousins who I’ve grown up with#and a handful of people I’m friends with either through my sisters or that I have miraculously befriended myself#but in general I’m someone who rarely tries to maintain a close relationship with them#like if we drifted off and never spoke to each other again I don’t think I would gaf#which I know sounds psychotic but hear me out#ok since I was in elementary school I’ve had a series of weird friendships#in middle school there was this girl named patty who was my friend but the moment they called me their best friend I got freaked out#and was relieved when the friendship started to weaken naturally#and looking back I’m not sure why I was freaked out but I was#and then I also had my friend Alicia who I was genuinely besties with like we used to text everyday in the seventh grade#and then in eighth grade despite nothing changing we just grew apart and stopped talking to each other#oddly I don’t even know why#and even when we would hang out it wasn’t the same I wish I knew why#and in 8th grade I somehow became friends with a girl I used to despise 😭#she who shall not be named was ‘popular’ I guess and honestly a huge fucking mean girl#but I think I liked the fact that she was nice to me cause it was pretty rare that she would be to anyone else#and we became friends but we very often butted heads#I mean what I liked was that she was kind and protective at times#and then other times a flat out mean and jealous psycho#anyways once high school was over I ✂️ her off like there was no tomorrow#like I had no interest in being her friend after that because I was just fed up with her#and yeah since my school days I have always just been okay with drifting apart#and don’t even bother to have a friendship breakup#like it doesn’t even make me sad to see a relationship fade away when it does#I’m just like good times :D but who gaf#and sometimes I disengage before the friendship has even broken up#like I’m also scared of the feeling of abandonment that I’ve already coached myself to be okay with the thought of losing them#AND I DONT KNOW WHERE THIS BEHAVIOR CAME FROM???
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xumoonhao · 2 years ago
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i will literally be having such a fine time until something reminds of the friends i no longer keep in touch with and then its just pain. immeasurable fucking pain
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etherbonded · 2 years ago
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the more I think about it the quicker I come to the conclusion that goro did not kill wakaba in this version of events but he does kill okumura which is still just as bad
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w1f1n1ghtm4r3 · 4 months ago
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thinking about middle school mizunene again. explodes
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moonwish · 6 months ago
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turbulent events have happened tonight
#celebrated international children's day with my high school english teacher#yes we have been friends for almost 10 years. since i was in 9th grade#yes he is 19 years older than me#talked about the old friend group which consisted about like three of us high school girls and a bunch of college guys who were all at least#4 or 5 years older than us. yes every guy crushed on the same girl at one point. i was in a relationship with the oldest of them#one of them who was tangentially in the group now has psychiatric problems. i don't know the specifics. he was to get married to this random#ass girl who got pregnant at 22/23 by another guy#idk who exactly but suffice to say they are not together anymore#we discussed my cancer situation. my ex (who apparently will love me forever) was crying a lot about it and seemed shaken up#even at their little guys christmas reunion last year#he texted me in december saying a part of me lives and will always live inside of him and that he loves me no matter what#i was honestly at a complete loss for words because we broke up 5 years ago. we literally had no future together#one of the other guys apparently said back in december that it was no use texting me encouraging words because we had drifted apart#that is the same guy i crushed on for 6 years. i still wished him a happy birthday in april tho.#it's okay because my crush on him vanished as soon as i realized he's a little piece of shit human. still likeable tho#and that is the issue. anyway. maybe i shouldn't have said piece of shit he's more like an annoying asshole which you still find endearing#talking to him now makes me realize he was never all that. high school me just thought he did really interesting things (which admittedly#were very interesting for that time and for our little town)#about my ex tho#even though i have no feelings for him anymore i think it's really beautiful that what we had is staying with him like that. i hope#it doesn't stop him from having a healthy and loving relationship in the future#i know he had multiple relationships after me but none of them really worked out. i really hope he finds that happiness#the way that i have
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