#Who just drifted apart with time
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So I have a Crocodile theory that I've been sitting on for a while. I have absolutely nothing to prove any of it whatsoever, and the only thing that really propels me to believe in it is that I think it would be cool if it were true.
I think Crocodile may have gotten his start as a cabin boy for the Rocks Pirates the same way Shanks and Buggy got their start with Roger. The trust issues would naturally follow from the way the Rocks Pirates probably turned on each other immediately following Rocks' death during the God Valley Incident. Seeing the crew you grew up on turn in on itself would make anyone wary of trusting others I think. It might also explain a portion of the animosity he had for Whitebeard as well. Obviously a lot of it comes from their clash during Croc's warlord days, but it might explain why he was so eager to go after Whitebeard in the first place. Him being at God Valley would also provide a solid point where he could have run into Ivankov, and potentially where Ivankov could have gotten some dirt on him, depending on whatever that dirt ends up being in Canon.
Even wilder speculation, but I think Mihawk might have been there as well. The two just seem to have this weird, unexplained rapport that doesn't yield itself to a whole lot of options other than a previous connection. They get in a fight at Marineford, and Crocodile walks away alive despite him being well below Mihawk's level. Croc feels it's enough to just let Mihawk know he's "in a real bad mood" and that seems to do the trick. Mihawk is the first person Crocodile talks to about his Cross Guild venture, and Mihawk doesn't take long to take him up on it. And Mihawk, in general, also just kind of lets Crocodile talk at him a lot for someone who was introduced to us as a person who would hunt you down for just interrupting his nap.
Like I said, I don't have a shred of evidence for any of this at all, but I do think it would be cool, and might explain a few things.
"Would be cool if true" THIS IS WHAT FUN THEORIES ARE BASED ON 👏👏👏 We're HERE to get EXCITED about COOL IDEAS
Honestly I much prefer "random cabin boy for Xebec" over Xebec's son on just vibes alone, but also it'd make Crocodile losing interest on Whitebeard in Marineford much more palatable. Because if Whitebeard betrayed his dad on top of kicking his ass then surely he wouldn't assist in saving Ace, regardless of what his relationship with Luffy and/or the Revs may or may not have been. But if he was a cabin boy, yeah, that'd give him the trust issues but without it being THAT personal
Not sure if Mihawk would've been on the same ship though... IDK looking at the bby Shichibukai art, bby Hawk looks quite messy and disheveled compared to bby Croc- if they were raised in similar circumstances on Xebec' ship you'd think their art would look about the same. Also if I'm not misremembering, Crocodile would've been 9 during the God Valley incident, and Mihawk is 3 years younger than him so he would've been just 6. I dunno, if anything I'd be more willing to bet money on Moria having been on the ship with Crocodile instead (since he would've been like 13, and based on bby Moria's art he looks like he kinda matches with Crocodile, that said there's nothing to prove the two have any kind of shared history whatsoever)... But yeah, if Mihawk was 6 at the time, I kind of doubt they were BOTH on Xebec's ship
That said. I'm fucking sure Crocodile and Mihawk have SOME kind of shared history. There's gotta be fucking SOMETHING, at SOME POINT, because yeah, as you said
Crocodile telling Mihawk he's in a shit mood is a passable warning to give to from like One Dangerous Warlord to Another, but it takes on a whole different tone if they knew each other a bit closer
Who knows, maybe they were both cabin boys on the same ship for someone else a few years later though, hell, for all we know Mihawk could've been on Crocodile's crew for a time
Also based on Kuma's flashback, we do see Kuma visit Mihawk's island in chapter 1099, and in 1100 when Mihawk sees the news of Kuma joining, he's awfully quiet. So if Mihawk and Kuma may have known each other even just briefly, yeah. Why the fuck couldn't Mihawk and Crocodile have some history too.
There's also this bit from Croc and Hawk's phonecall that interests me
The "..." in the flashback panel
Like it's very normal for Oda to signal a character is thinking about something without saying anything about it by doing the little "..." (for example, Robin would've been well-aware of Moria as she did work for a Warlord herself, making this panel from Thriller Bark quite interesting), hell the phonecall flashback both begins and ends with Mihawk having simple "..." thought bubbles as he's thinking back to it
But the fact that he's Having A Thought about Crocodile being like "we're the same bro"... Oh they gotta have somekinda shared backstory somewhere, they've gotta, surely
And indeed, despite the fact that the two aren't supposed to trust anyone, they sure seem to trust each other enough to start a marine hunting organization together
(Also an interesting detail that, since we know they both hate the Marines a lot, so them starting an organization with that shared goal is just. Yeah. Interesting.)
One additional note I wanted to make because I just noticed this while browsing the Wiki; of the OG Warlords Mihawk is one of the few who we have no idea when he joined the Shichibukai, the only other one being Moria
I really would be curious to hear when and how Mihawk joined, 'cause for all we know, he might've joined around the same time Crocodile did, which would definitely be interesting...
Man. Like I'm not particularly interested in Mihawk's backstory on its own, but if his backstory was somehow tied to Crocodile's... Oh I'd absolutely love to hear it. ODA PLEASE, SPILL THE BEANS
#Moon posting#OP Spoilers#OP Meta#Sir Crocodile#Mihawk#Asks#Long post#It would be like super fucking cute if it turned out the two were like childhood friends or something#Who just drifted apart with time#I dunno I am not immune to CrocHawk#Sidenote if I do get an Extended Crocodile Flashback I'd love to see the who were the actual original 7 Shichibukai WG hired#'Cause if I'm not mistaken the Government specifically came up with the Warlord system during the begining of the Great Pirate Era#Meaning it's very likely the system has only been around for 22-24 years#Which means it is very possible Crocodile could've been one of the OG-OG seven#Would love to see that line up one day just for the hell of it
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Potential controversial opinion, but I wish more media and fanworks explored relationships where the couple find other forms of commitment than marriage and 2.5 kids in a nice house. Let them wander the world together. Let them be life partners that need their own space. Note that I'm not saying domestic stuff is bad! I just wish other forms of commitment also got love.
#vit musings#looking at couples that don't want kids#or couples that have been traumatized by their family and don't want the traditional family dynamic#or couples who both have active careers they're really dedicated to that live separate from each other#but both still love and adore each other when they have time to be together#gimme couples that wander and don't want the complexities of marriage#Couples that value the flexibility of not being married in case they drift apart#Just!#Different kinds of couples!
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#not snz and not a vent... just passive musing#had a dream two nights ago where someone who i used to know (and love a little) wished me goodbye with a#kiss to the hand before i flew away from them forever on a magic chair#which is very stud//io g//hi//bli-esque and frankly very unserious but#the feeling of grief i felt saying goodbye to a friendship which i had once held so close to me - and which i know can probably never#be as close as it was at that point in my life - stuck with me for a long time even after i woke up#it's been something i've been thinking about for awhile... but the dream felt like such a concrete and painful severance#i think that like a childish part of me wants to hold the people i'm close to at#the same distance and trust that they will stay there forever#but logically i know it's natural that the people i met under certain circumstances might drift apart once those circumstances change#for one or both of us... i guess friendship really is just a lucky convergence at one point in time where everything aligns#like i know this and i have known this for awhile but god does it hurt#especially those kinds of goodbyes that feel so gradual... not like a clear severing of ties but just a gradual disappearance#i think i probably have to not feel so hung up over what i used to have. and for the most part i am not; life goes on#but for those people?#i sometimes just miss them#there's a special kind of hurt knowing that i could reach out to them and say hello and that they would probably respond but that it might#never be quite the same again
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i maybe already posted about this but i’m finally getting through some of my insecurities because i’m realizing that it wasn’t my fault that i felt the way i did and it still hurts but i’m getting better
#basically what happened was my friend (at the time best friend) has a habit of talking at people instead of with them#and she would kinda just share her stories and i would never know what to say#and it made me feel like i was so boring and no one would want to talk to me#plus she also only really focuses her attention on one person at a time#and it rarely felt like i was that person#but now i understand that and i have other friends who don’t make me feel this way#and i feel like i can talk to people and not be the most boring person there#i’m still friends with her but i don’t think i’ll actually break off the friendship#i’d rather drift apart and still be on good terms with her#plus she’s really holding onto our friend group from last year#to the point of calling one friend that transferred schools almost daily (i think)#and i don’t want that to keep me from making friends with other people#so that’s what’s happened in my life
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i had dreams involving one of my childhood best friends two nights in a row......what does it mean......
#the wretched gremlin strikes again#both were different scenarios but they both involved the girl who was my best friend from grades 3-5#we drifted apart in grade 6 and in grade 7 she wasn't in my class and by that time she had new friends#and also i was a freak and a pariah by grade 6 so i can get why she didn't really hang out with me#although i think she and i mostly just drifted apart in grade 6 cause a different person and i grew closer and she didn't like that person#she was still like nice to me in grade 6 and 7 which is much more i can say for other girls in my school at that age#i still think about her and her family often#i wonder if she still thinks of me....
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truly there is nothing scarier than a groupchat consisting of you, your close irl friend, and a friend of your irl friend who you dont know very well
#im in a groupchat of myself my friend and his friend bc we’re all in the same sciences class and it is so scarey#im sitting there like ‘hi here are the notes…………. please dont kill me for being a nerd over chemistry… i dont know how to text… save me…’#bc the friend of a friend is like. the strangest person theyre kind of mean and not very nice sometimes theyre like that specific brand of#nice but not at the same time?? and so idk how to act around them i try to be nice but idk what seems normal lol#and also shes dating the girl i used to be really close friends with several years ago who i stopped being friends with bc she shipped me w#our other friend and we kinda just drifted apart after that 😭 so it feels very awkward sometimes lol
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this comment has me tearing up like i literally cant imagine going through that i would've gone postal
#if i had watched all of mindcrack in real time and then had to sit through two years of nothing i would have lost it#etho would make an offhand comment about bdubs in his singleplayer world and i'd start crying#like ive seen some nasty cc breakups where theres obviously hurt feelings and bad blood and thats why two creators dont interact anymore#but that shits got nothing on watching two people who very obviously care about each other and enjoy making content together just. stop.#because it doesn't work anymore. man.#nothing in this world more heartbreaking than two ppl who love each other realizing they just don't fit into each others lives#bro if i was watching that shit in 2015 or w/e i would feel So Hopeless#like if these two can do everything right by and for each other and still just drift apart then#how can anyone have hope for meaningful relationships ykwim#but!! seeing it in retrospect is so. idk like it's such a good lesson in patience.#wait this is already getting so rambly but whats the fucking. whats the wilfred owen quote.#'you have fixed my life -- however short. you did not light me: i was always a mad comet;#but you have fixed me. i spun round you a satellite for a month#but i shall swing out soon#a dark star in the orbit where you will blaze.'#thats. thats the ethubs break to me.#ethubs is stored in the gay love letter wilfred owen sent to siegfried sassoon in 1917#where the fuck was i going with this
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Intrusive thoughts hour 😭🫶🏼
#I need to check messages more often#I think my friend who graduated visited campus#and then I message their story#and read up after thinking huh I wonder how they’re doing#ONLY TO REALIZE I WAS THE ONE WHO NEVER READ THE MESSAGES 😭😭#so ngl it’s really my fault if smth doesn’t happen#cause it’ll be sad if I missed the one day they were here#like sometimes friends drift apart cause life gets busy#I know that#but also I miss them#and honestly it’s my fault a lot cause I’m like the worst at replying#I wish I had unlimited energy but that’s not it either#I know my mom said like if u really care u’d make time#and she’s right but also#a lot of times I don’t open messages cause I want to give people 110% when I respond back#but also that just kinda stops me from messaging people right??#like a terrible cycle that’s only in my head#I know it’s not a big deal#like my friend would probably be like haha I am on campus#but the instrusive thoughts are hitting deep rn </3#I miss u I wish I was better at reaching out I love u I hope ur doing well#small voice at the back of my head being like pls don’t forget about me#even tho girl it’s my own fault 😭#also another intrusive thought being like u only say all of this to justify not responding so honestly u could do better#and I can!!#so I should probably change this#hopefully it’s complicated… i say this a lot but it always gets back to this point#I hope people spam message me out of nowhere or don’t mind if I spam message them back#also irl stuff is actually busy cause extracurriculars are every single day 😭🫶🏼#Bella rambles
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#wish I had someone to talk other than my partner but I haven't had a real friend besides her in literal years#I'm so bad at reaching out to people and when I finally work up the courage to try to make friends real life stuff always gets in the way#and then I spend so much time dealing with that that I end up drifting apart from everyone. even if everything was going well#or I end up fucking the entire thing up irreparably because of my BPD episodes make me push people away to self-destruct#or i just end up becoming too obsessive which also usually pushes people away in the end#I just wish I could stop feeling this soul-crushing loneliness and have a friend that really cared for once#and that I could stop falling in love with everyone who's shows me even the smallest thread of kindness because I crave affection like air#because that always ends terribly..#I barely feel real. I just sit around day in and day out feeling completely empty and non-existent. like I'm not even there to begin with#I just don't know how much longer I can keep that up for.. I just feel so exhausted
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oh my chest aches tonight
#i wrote out this very cathartic post that idk if i’ll publish but god. it made me cry#it’s so incredibly fucked up how you can just. drift apart from someone who was so goddamn important to you#i went thru my moms facebook pictures to try to find pictures of the two of us together#we were so small#so much time has past#abby.txt
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Do you ever observe random people you went to high school with on your FB and you’re just like “you really went all around the world and still picked a boy from our hometown? Really?”
#this girl i used to tutor is now a flight attendant. which is cool#but she’s dating the fucking.. older brother of a guy who was in our class#like???? girl. you went EVERYWHERE and you picked. shane. REALLY?????#and i mean i know every man is somebody’s hometown boy but like. picking a man from your Own hometown after travelling the world#is a little wild to me. you’re telling me you saw czech men with their floofy hair and ginormous arms; american men who will do pushups#to impress you; enormous viking men; italian men and their… everything… and you picked SHANE from our hometown#like girl i left europe one time and immediately fell in love with an american man and had brain worms for three years#so maybe i just don’t get it. but liiiike…#i mean i can’t really say anything because who am i crushing on currently? my only age appropriate coworker#but in my defence; apart from like a few short holidays i have been here for 4 years now and i don’t plan on leaving any time soon#i mean i want to leave but i can’t. if you catch my drift#i think i am allowed to want a hometown boy if i am permanently in my hometown. if i’m jetting off to other countries every damn day?#madness. fall in unrequited love with the only man your age on the plane like a normal person#personal#(i am joking about all of this. before anyone says something like ‘you don’t understand their relationship’ no i don’t. i barely know these#people lol. i’m just saying things recreationally)
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REALIZED SOMETHING CRAZY ABOUT MYSELF…
#so fun fact about me: i really don’t give a fuck about having friends like that#I mean I do mostly in the form of my cousins who I’ve grown up with#and a handful of people I’m friends with either through my sisters or that I have miraculously befriended myself#but in general I’m someone who rarely tries to maintain a close relationship with them#like if we drifted off and never spoke to each other again I don’t think I would gaf#which I know sounds psychotic but hear me out#ok since I was in elementary school I’ve had a series of weird friendships#in middle school there was this girl named patty who was my friend but the moment they called me their best friend I got freaked out#and was relieved when the friendship started to weaken naturally#and looking back I’m not sure why I was freaked out but I was#and then I also had my friend Alicia who I was genuinely besties with like we used to text everyday in the seventh grade#and then in eighth grade despite nothing changing we just grew apart and stopped talking to each other#oddly I don’t even know why#and even when we would hang out it wasn’t the same I wish I knew why#and in 8th grade I somehow became friends with a girl I used to despise 😭#she who shall not be named was ‘popular’ I guess and honestly a huge fucking mean girl#but I think I liked the fact that she was nice to me cause it was pretty rare that she would be to anyone else#and we became friends but we very often butted heads#I mean what I liked was that she was kind and protective at times#and then other times a flat out mean and jealous psycho#anyways once high school was over I ✂️ her off like there was no tomorrow#like I had no interest in being her friend after that because I was just fed up with her#and yeah since my school days I have always just been okay with drifting apart#and don’t even bother to have a friendship breakup#like it doesn’t even make me sad to see a relationship fade away when it does#I’m just like good times :D but who gaf#and sometimes I disengage before the friendship has even broken up#like I’m also scared of the feeling of abandonment that I’ve already coached myself to be okay with the thought of losing them#AND I DONT KNOW WHERE THIS BEHAVIOR CAME FROM???
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i will literally be having such a fine time until something reminds of the friends i no longer keep in touch with and then its just pain. immeasurable fucking pain
#we truly are graveyards of the people we used to be & full of the spirits of those who knew us at one point huh :/#like it doesnt even matter what reason we dont speak anymore. if we had a falling out or fell out of touch or just changed as people#and drifted apart naturally like it literally. doesnt matter my heart still aches for the person i was and the people they were#there are so many versions of me grasping for her friends that dont exist bc the people we used to be are all dead. im trying to grab#their fucking corpses like girl. girl stop that you have new friends!!! and in years you will have more new friends!!! thats what life is#all about!!! its death and rebirth and death and rebirth and death and rebirth again and again until we all turn back to dust#some of the people we know will die and come back with us and some wont. and thats okay. but oh my GOD....agony. its agony#anyways. as u can tell i am having a Time#🎆.txt
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the more I think about it the quicker I come to the conclusion that goro did not kill wakaba in this version of events but he does kill okumura which is still just as bad
#outside of concept { ooc }#( it’s MY AU and I get to choose the causes of death )#( aka another of shido’s assassins killed wakaba before himari and goro met masa )#( and by the time they meet masa goro hasn’t even talked to futaba in a year )#( tfw himari and wakaba were close friends in high school but they drift apart hen find each other again just for one of them to die- )#( -a few years later !! and your bestie is taking care of her kid who’s now very unwell mentally !! )#( who also happens to be goro’s half-sibling but no one really know that yet fjfjfj )#( futaba may have lost their mom but at least their brother is alive and didn’t kill her mom )
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thinking about middle school mizunene again. explodes
#i want to write a fic about them.....#nene waiting for rui after school most days just to hope to maybe go home with him once in a while even though theyre a bit distant.......#mizuki who sees her there and keeps wondering why this girl who clearly goes to another school is always waiting there........#one day they finally approach her and they become awkward sort of friends....... two sad wet middle schoolers going through a rough time...#but nene stops going once the school year ends because rui isnt there to wait for anymore..... so they drift apart too........#and then in high school they meet again and nene barely recognizes mizuki at first because theyve transitioned more openly now.....#but they get to be friends properly this time...... growing past the troubles of their times in middle school that held them back..........#oughhhhhh i have so many feelings about this concept what if i exploded into a million pieces#w1f1 ramblings
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turbulent events have happened tonight
#celebrated international children's day with my high school english teacher#yes we have been friends for almost 10 years. since i was in 9th grade#yes he is 19 years older than me#talked about the old friend group which consisted about like three of us high school girls and a bunch of college guys who were all at least#4 or 5 years older than us. yes every guy crushed on the same girl at one point. i was in a relationship with the oldest of them#one of them who was tangentially in the group now has psychiatric problems. i don't know the specifics. he was to get married to this random#ass girl who got pregnant at 22/23 by another guy#idk who exactly but suffice to say they are not together anymore#we discussed my cancer situation. my ex (who apparently will love me forever) was crying a lot about it and seemed shaken up#even at their little guys christmas reunion last year#he texted me in december saying a part of me lives and will always live inside of him and that he loves me no matter what#i was honestly at a complete loss for words because we broke up 5 years ago. we literally had no future together#one of the other guys apparently said back in december that it was no use texting me encouraging words because we had drifted apart#that is the same guy i crushed on for 6 years. i still wished him a happy birthday in april tho.#it's okay because my crush on him vanished as soon as i realized he's a little piece of shit human. still likeable tho#and that is the issue. anyway. maybe i shouldn't have said piece of shit he's more like an annoying asshole which you still find endearing#talking to him now makes me realize he was never all that. high school me just thought he did really interesting things (which admittedly#were very interesting for that time and for our little town)#about my ex tho#even though i have no feelings for him anymore i think it's really beautiful that what we had is staying with him like that. i hope#it doesn't stop him from having a healthy and loving relationship in the future#i know he had multiple relationships after me but none of them really worked out. i really hope he finds that happiness#the way that i have
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