#Tim thinks they don’t care about him
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Thinking a very normal amount about Tim being joker junior.
Thinking about Jason dying and Tim becoming robin out of necessity.
Thinking about Bruce not noticing Tim has been kidnapped because surely, surely his parents would file a report. Surely Tim must have been dragged into going on a trip with them and just didn’t mention it.
Thinking of Bruce not questioning things correctly because he is too busy grieving the previous robin.
Thinking of Bruce just thinking Joker Junior is a random kid.
Thinking of Barbra being the one to notice instead.
Thinking of Barbra consoling Tim after he kills the Joker.
Thinking of her taking Tim and letting him heal in the Drake estate.
Thinking of a file Bruce Wayne makes called Joker junior, one that Tim never looks at, that talks about a kid who killed the Joker and has been missing ever since.
Thinking of, months later, when robin returns to Bruce’s side, it just so happens to coincide with the return of Jack and Janet.
Thinking of Tim thinking Barbra must have told Bruce, but he just never came to see him. And that’s fine, because it isn’t as if they are family, Tim is just here to make sure Bats doesn’t go off the deep end again.
Thinking of Barbra not telling Bruce, because surely he already knows, he’s the world’s greatest detective. Plus she isn’t one to talk about other people’s trauma when they aren’t around.
Thinking of Tim hiding his laughter, because Batman would never let him keep patrolling if he knew he was still having fits.
Thinking of Dick not being there most of the time, and when he is, he mostly spends it arguing with Bruce.
Thinking of Tim knowing that Dick must know because he hears them fighting about the joker being dead once, although he did leave pretty soon after when he feels the laughter bubbling up in his throat.
Thinking of Jason coming back, attacking him at the titains tower, and telling him that he’s read all his files and knows everything about Tim. Obviously Tim takes this to mean he knows that Tim killed the joker as JJ. Because why wouldn’t that be in his file.
Thinking of Jason not having time to question when the little Robin who replaced him starts manically laughing once he sees him, because as soon as he hears the familiar laugh the green takes over completely.
Thinking of Tim finally feeling in control of himself, but then worst year ever happens. His parents are dead, Bruce is lost in the time stream, all his friends are dead, Robin is stolen from him, and everyone thinks he is crazy. He starts to relapse.
Thinking of Tim actually going a little bit crazy after that, trying to clone Bart and Kon, joining the league of assassins, doing all those crazy things he did during worst year ever.
Thinking of Cass learning after saving Tim from the daughter of Acheron. There isn’t much he can do but explain after she witnesses one of his fits.
Thinking about years later, when everyone has relationships more akin to Batman: Wayne family adventures, Tim still feels a little out of the group.
Thinking of everyone getting mad when he talks about the Joker, especially if it’s in front of Jason.
Thinking of Tim going silent or making himself scarce everytime the Joker is mentioned.
Thinking of a Tim who finds an excuse not to go out when Harley Quinn is.
Thinking of a Tim who hasn’t had an episode in years.
Thinking of a Tim who watches Jason get all this support for his trauma, while he doesn’t.
Thinking of him going to Barbra or Cass anytime he has a set back because they are the only ones who seem to care.
Thinking of a Wayne family who doesn’t know.
Thinking of a Tim who Knows they Know, but they just don’t care.
#dc comics#batman beyond return of the joker#batman: wayne family adventures#tim drake#joker junior#Batman#bruce wayne#barbra gordon#cassandra cain#dick grayson#damian wayne#harley quinn#dc joker#misunderstandings#batfam#the events probably aren’t in order#ignore that#i did my best#something has to give#Tim thinks they don’t care about him#very sad#they do they just don’t know#i love them so much#i need them to suffer
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These panels live rent free in my brain…like not only is it a movie night tradition to make milkshakes and popcorn together but also it’s tradition for Dick and Tim to throw each other the utensils and remote without looking.
Nightwing (1996) #151 / Batman and Robin (2009) #20
#I think the point of the parallel is to emphasize that Bruce was gone and now he’s back but honestly I don’t care. this isn’t about him 😤#it’s about them being adorable. thank you to my Dick Grayson food post for reminding me these panels exist#dick grayson#tim drake#batfam#alfred pennyworth#batbros#bonds: I knew it was you#damian wayne#heroesriseandfall#undescribed#nightwing
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Prompt:
It’s turning out to be a bad day when Jason finds himself stabbed during a drug bust.
It’s turning out to be a very bad day when he starts to feel woozy (seriously, what the hell? It was just a little stabbing) and promptly collapses.
It’s turning out to be a monumentally bad day when the batfamily drop in on his drug bust.
And then the night takes a hard nose dive into catastrophically bad, because whatever toxin that blade was laced with? It’s making his heartbeat slow down into near flatline, paralyzing Jason in the process.
And now he’s stuck listening to his family lose it completely upon finding his “dead” body.
… shit.
#don’t you just love it when your family thinks you’re dead again#but hey at least Jason finds out that they absolutely DO care about him#Damian needs to be sedated because he was about to murder every single person in that warehouse#oh yeah did I mention it’s a warehouse again#lmao#Nightwing just—- zones out. crashes. dissociates.#Tim is trying for frantic cpr#(ouch ouch OUCH replacement)#Bruce can’t do this again#please he CAN’Y#he couldn’t have been too late again oh god#Jason would be crying if he wasn’t paralyzed#that raw grief is contagious#presumed dead#prompts#yeah I know it’s similar to a previous prompt#VUT I NEED MORE PRESUMED DEAD FICS OK#jason todd#batfamily#dick grayson#batfam#bruce wayne#robin#red hood#tim drake#batman
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Imagine the external speculation on Each of the kids inheritance. Like trash tabloids are all gossiping about how much each kid gets when Bruce croaks meanwhile behind the scenes they are all playing a very complex game of Batnopoly, Yahtzee, connect 4, poker and capture the flag to find out who gets the Batmobile, little do they know Bruce is leaving everything to Batcow, Titus and the bats that populate the cave.
The true truth that no one knows is that everything is actually in Alfred’s name and when he dies he’s leaving it all to Clark because none of the Wayne’s can be trusted.
Very silly, very mindful, Very Knives Out
#do I think any of them actually seriously care about the inheritance?#no#despite being raised as silver spoon nepobabies they don’t care about money and would rather live in a hollow under a tree than see a camera#but unfortunately#that does not supply their necessary lifestyle items#Dick: Skin care products infused with the tears of beauty gurus#Jason: White hair dye (for the bit)#Tim: An assistant to make sure he doesn’t spontaneously turn to dust#Damian: The space for his private pet zoo#Cass: A steady supply of baked goods#Duke: The chaos that sustains him#Bruce: the ability to endlessly adopt children he finds in the trash#Alfred: a functional kitchen#batman#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#batfam#damian wayne#dc batman#tim drake#cassandra cain#duke thomas#alfred pennyworth#these goobers
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thanks for infecting me with marchil its so so fun to just see them pair themselves up in the background now
especially love how much she picks him up like a cat (and when he has the opportunity to do it to her too he just lugs her around like a sack of oats) gosh i love them they're so funny
YAAAAAA 🎉🎉 I’m so glad to hear it welcome to the sillies corner 🤝
THEY’RE SOOO SO FUNNY
They’re worsties that cannot get enough of each other
#Ask#dungeon meshi manga spoilers#dungeon meshi#marchil#MAKE IT MAKE SENSEEE they’re so ‘see u later bestie!! <3 … Can’t stand their fake ass smh’#Ppl get on Marcille’s case about teasing him about his age but I think most forget how teasing her is Chil’s mission & calling 24/7#-sends off an explosion near him- ‘Woah careful there!! Is he okay??!!’ ‘What are you a baby it’s just a lil explosion he’ll be fine’#Rest of the time: ‘CHIL ARE YOU OKAY OMIGOSH I’M COMING DON’T WORRY’#He laughs at her so so much. So often. They are united in haterism like ‘thank god we’re normal’ and then realize they are so obnoxious#I’ve been trying to think of funky ship names for them lately. Bc Short Fuse is taken by another ship from another fandom </3#None feel perfect but… Closed book. Magiclock. Detonation… Implode explode… Bc she makes boom booms and he undoes traps which blow up#Also he bottles his feelings up until he bursts hehe#Anyways. Just a short comp of the sillies#Compilation#Marcille donato#chilchuck tims
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Do you have any more outtakes you'd be willing to share? I love seeing what did and didn't make the cut on fics
i do!! i remember doing a little roundup of some outtakes for chapters 1 - 3 (found it! here) and i have some similar snippets from chapters 4 & 5 ��️
chapter 4
a bit of cut dialogue from the zoo rescue:
“Oh, I’m aware,” Nightwing says. “Atlanta, remember?”
“What happened in Atlanta?” Tim demands, ducking away from another bird.
Nightwing waves a hand. “Classified superhero business.”
“Superboy, what happened in Atlanta?”
In Atlanta, Kon yelled at Superman about Tim’s misinterpreted fear toxin hallucinations right in front of Batman and Nightwing, which still makes Kon cringe a bit to think about. “Uhh,” Kon says. “Yeah, classified.”
two cut texting exchanges after the date:
Text message: Clark & Kon
[Saturday, 10:21pm ET]
Clark
Hey Kon—is everything all right?
I can have someone cover the rest of my watch if need be.
Kon
no, all good
apparently mr. wayne’s lawyers are On It
whatever that means in rich people speak
sorry if you like. get asked about this by the press lol
like we weren’t trying for a photo op but i should’ve heard the drone earlier
Clark
This isn’t your fault.
And I’m sure Bruce’s lawyers will have it sorted out by morning
Kon
yeah that’s basically what tim said
Text message: Jon & Conner
[Saturday, 10:23pm ET]
Jon
Ok the live is gone now
Also pa’s asking where u are what do i tell him
I think i have to tell him the truth he sounds worried because earlier i said u went to rescue someone n you haven’t come back
I can’t lie about this i feel bad :(
oh i just heard your window open nvm !!
Conner
all good kiddo, thanks for looking out
in tim & bruce’s conversation, there was a longer section about tim leaning into the “socialite” civilian role, which included the following exchange:
“Like…Paris Fashion Week?” Tim says. That’s always a big one for Bruce Wayne to be caught ducking into dressing rooms with various models.
Bruce gives him a flat look. “You are welcome to attend Paris Fashion Week. Chaperoned.”
tim’s instagram post originally had comments:
briancollinsss i KNEW i saw superboy at car’s party!!!
jerseygirlsteph 👅👅👅
itsanickname_grayson Hope you stayed safe up there!
chapter 5
this exchange in the flashback at the top of chapter 5 was cut/altered for flow, but i still like it:
“Okay,” Tim had said. “And, um, if you can’t come get me, is there a plan B?”
“I will come for you,” Bruce repeated, at the same time Dick called: “Superman.”
extra banter (co-brainstormed by @tigerjpg) that got cut because it didn’t quite keep with the tone, but i still adore it:
“I’m not perfect, anyway,” Kon says. “I snore. Maybe next time make a specimen who doesn’t snore.”
“Sometimes his sneezes register on the Richter Scale,” Tim says.
“And I have a crooked tooth, though honestly that might be from the time I slammed face-first into a volcano.”
“He also thinks wearing sunglasses at night is cool.”
and a bit later, also cut for tone/flow:
“[…] Hey, how unhinged about eugenics do you have to be for Cadmus to send you packing as an intern?”
Cadmus. Did Kon—did he tell Tim the name Cadmus, earlier? He can’t remember—he doesn’t think he did—but it doesn’t matter, because his thoughts scatter as the guy whirls on Tim. The rod comes up, jams under Tim’s jaw, pressing into the side of his neck. Not on yet, but it could be. Kon freezes; Tim doesn’t react except to go rigid, still tracking the guy with his eyes.
“Tell me honestly,” Cadmus guy says, lip curling as he looks sideways to address Kon. “Do you even like this one, or was kissing him the only way you could get him to shut up?”
Kon’s heart pounds in his throat. “You’re so…obsessed with my dating life, dude,” he says. Every moment the guy is looking at him feels like one less moment the rod might switch on. “Sorry, but you’re a bit old for me.”
and i have some extra core four shenanigans that probably won’t fit into chapter 6 at this point, but i’ll wait til i’m done to share that 💪
#i cut the last one because i didn’t want kon to get snagged on wondering about what tim knows here when the reveal was so close#plus i don’t think cadmus guy actually thought/cared about superboy’s feelings for tim beyond their utility to him#but i do think it would have been fun (bad) for tim to hear that 🥰#asks#my fic#i think i’ll do an outtakes/extras roundup after the fic is complete!
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“Peter Lukas gets sent back to the regency era” “Jonathan Sims gets sent back to the regency era” valid points valid points but i raise you
Tim Stoker gets sent back to the regency era
#Timelias#guys c’mon it would be sooo fun#Tim would probably *hate* Elias. Maybe try to take the circus down sooner since#the Grimaldi was first like a thing in the very early 1800s so it could be possible for Tim to just kill Nikola on sight#And I bet Jonah would be so fascinated by him. Like oh my god this man 1) is probably from the future 2) Is HOT AS FUCK 3) has sooo much#knowledge about the fears and FOUR) Can apparently kill the things?? and is confident while doing so??#Jonah would love him sm#Also while I don’t think Jon or Peter could fix him I firmly believe that Tim 100% could#Like I’m pretty sure it was actually tweeted once that Tim could’ve redeemed Elias by fucking him nasty#but fr though I do think Tim would actually stop him from becoming as bad as he did because while Jon is passive in the voyeuristic sense an#d also and avatar and peter just couldn’t care less about stopping bad things Tim is wholey human and still dedicating himself to taking#action against the fears and *succeeding* and since I think a lot of Jonah magnus’s less than ideal actions stemmed from his feelings of#helplessness in a world out to get him I think that would be a great anchor for him.#Also I’m just super soft for any kind of Timelias sooo <333#Elias Bouchard#Jonah Magnus#TMA#Tim Stoker#oh also Tim was canonically fascinated by Robert Smirke so he’d probably have some knowledge about the 1700-1800s through osmosis gotten#while researching#the magnus archives
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No bc fuck tim but it really really bothers me how people ignore his growth like he used to be an asshole and I’ll give tim Stans one thing: now he’s so so so stale but what I disagree with is that this staleness is bc nobody likes him like it’s in fact the exact opposite where everyone likes him so much they dont want to do anything. Even when it’s him surface level challenging Bruce it’s when everyone else is doing it too; but he’s still the backbone of the fam! Etc. and it’s so irritating bc him gaining more compassion and empathy even for people he doesn’t fw is so fun to watch and that’s why the captain boomerang thing was so out of character! (Not in a from the author way but in a tim wouldn’t do that and he and Bruce both knew it which is why it went down like it did. Same way dick killing joker was ooc; not in fanon sense but in a he would hate himself forever for this sense) and speaking of that it’s such an interesting mirror to Bruce who genuinely believes that everyone can grow vs Tim’s it doesn’t matter if they grow it’s not my decision to make like it’s the same but it’s not AND WITH CASS’ IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO GROW I WONT DO IT! like ugh. And anyways even when people acknowledge it they boil it down to “Janet and Jack taught him that the capitalist pigs that they are” like no. This is who tim was. Tim was the kind of guy who’d blame a dead kid for dying. That’s ok. Also Janet and Jack? Please reread anything involving them that’s not a fic like Jack had anger issues and they were both aloof at worst like relax.
#the Jack and Janet thing is both an understatement and an exaggeration but I don’t think anyone reads enough to care#some tim stan might get all pissy and be like ‘no look this is everytime jack yelled at him and boarding schools are abusive’ to which#and its like narratively that means nothing bc the tim you made up to justify the Drake parents you made up by blowing shit out of#proportion is also made up and if all of that was abusive there’d be smth to show for it besides ur homophobic Jack#too girlboss to care but still terrible Janet bc god forbid a woman have a personality from ur fics#anyways that’s also the reason I’m ignoring the council of spiders#well two reasons#first is that was just a moment to make tim look cool and did absolutely nothing for him or his character moving on#like at all#I’d say it fucked with his previous established dislike of killing for his own reasons#and while that COULD be interesting it’s not bc they didn’t do shit with it#and fanon doesn’t do fun shit with it either#nothing about how tim in his most manic state did shit he doesn’t want to remember shit he’d HATE other ppl for#just “’remember what I did to ur base Ra’s? mess with me again and see what I do next 😼’#like ok can you be real and genuine?#anyways I think#AND NOT IN A HATER WAY#Tim would benefit from being humbled#like genuinely I detest the world can’t move without tim running it but the idea that tim thinks that way is so good to me#and#I think next step being him realizing that’s not true would be a BIG push for his character#bc like I said tim Stans are right in the fact that he’s stale as hell rn#but that’s bc there’s nothing to say bc there’s nowhere to go! y’all want a tim action story where he shows off how badass he is reread#the Bruce quest and maybe it’ll remind you he’s not ceo lmao but anyways there’s nothing internal to say about him atp bc nobody wants to#say anything that’s not propping him up. same with Bruce! Gotham war was such a copout but it’s like ppl are saying he’s stale and it’s bc#god forbid he makes a lasting fumble. and I’m not under the illusion this is new I’m just saying it’s weird that fandoms not clocking it#anywayyys I really do like thinking about the No killing rule and how different it manifests for each perosn#like the way each distinct difference tells u so much about them#UGH ONLY SLIGHTLY RELATED BUT DUUUUUKE BEING LIKE IDGAF ABOUT GUNS LIKE UR SO REAAAL#anyways enough tim positivity for today FUCK THAT NIGGA!
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“Jason’s so rebellious”, “he’s the problem child” bro is NOT. He THINKS he is. But if anything he’s the kiss ass child trying to seem cool and rebellious. He’ll blow up a building and immediately be like “did Bruce see that?” “Did he see how rebellious I am??” “What’d he say???”. Rebellious my ass.
#He’s not really the cool antihero the fandom and even some comics claim he is#When dick rebelled he cut off Bruce however he could to be with the titans#not a expert on Tim but I think he did something similar or at least did the basic#Spray paint and skateboarding type of rebellion#But no Jason has some dumbass ideology which just happens to clash perfectly with his dads#And also gives him room to monologue about how he has daddy issues#(He doesn’t)#(At least not from Bruce)#All he does is care what Bruce thinks#In a strange filial version of the girl asking if the guy she’s “not into” mentioned her#And no I don’t think Bruce’s moral code is good#But people claiming Jason’s is better don’t understand that#“I just kill bad people”#Isn’t a sustainable solution#And can be heavily influenced by personal biases#Jason todd#i guess it’s kinda#anti jason todd#batman#red hood#dc comics#P-14c
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You can really see how irritated Tim is that he isn’t doing his homework right now
#mine#tim drake#Robin (1993) 24#I was just complaining the other day about how the new Batman and Robin solicit went out of its way to say that Damian still had homework#and I understand how it might seem hypocritical but I just think that’s not something Damian has ever given a shit about#he thinks regular school is beneath him the boy thinks he’s got three PHDs or something#I don’t remember where the panel is that he says that but he’s a liar obviously lmfao#I love him to death#anyway I don’t know where I’m going with these tags but Tim is the kid who complains about needing to do his homework but not care if he’s#passing while Damian refuses to DO homework and will die if he gets less than an A in any class#not me going off in the tags
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something that seriously haunts me is that when I went to new york comic con last year I walked right past the b&bh booth at artist alley bc I had yet to gaf. Like I literally started watching the show 2 weeks later. fuck my stupid baka life
#idek who was hosting the booth????#it would be an artist from the show since it was artist alley#but I don’t know who#it’s easy to check but im lazy#I COULDVE GOTTEN A SIGNED PRINT😭😭😭😭😭#another thing that haunts me#is that the original artist for the goosebumps series was there#tim jacobus iirc#and he had an assistant who was talking to someone#so I waited like. an uncomfortably long time#because I thought I had to wait to speak to his assistant and not him#and he just suddenly looks up and goes ‘can I help you….’#I wanted to die so fucking bad#IM SORRY SIR 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭#HE WAS DRAWING AND HE HAD AN ASSISTANT I THOUGHT I WASNT SUPPOSED TO TALK TO HIM#he got 20 bucks from me though so I don’t think he cares#I still care#i randomly think about it and it makes my stomach drop#he literally doesn’t remember me
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People thinking Jason was made fun of at school for being previously poor when he was canonically made fun of for hanging out with his butler in his mansion and not doing anything fun…😔
Batman Annual 12: “The Back-Up”
#i don’t think those kids know or care much where he lived before Bruce they just think he’s a rich goody two shoes (which. he was)#also that scene where Ives asks Tim about his weird fancy rich people lunches Alfred made him…I just know Jason also got teased about that#jason todd#batfam#alfred pennyworth#robin jason todd#heroesriseandfall
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assorted thoughts on ep 134, written as i listen. im so unwell about this show rn
martin having to correct himself from archival assistant :(((
ADELARD DEKKER???
wait wait wait WAIT! A FIFTEEENTH??????? A FIF TEENTH?
the extinction is TERRIFYING. nuclear winter.
so interested in what gertrude had to say about this considering jon was never taught about it. and then why is peter lukas so intent on teaching martin about it????
The Mother of Puppets is a SICK ASS name for a ritual holy shit?? Terminus too but the Web is so sketchy lmao
but WHY wouldn’t the eye want to stop the extinction??? or is peter lucas just so intent on it?? and how would the avatar of the eye be a participant in stopping it
and martin coming to peter lukas after the flesh attacked?????? WHY specifically
”Like a grubby jesus” show has comedic chops too i love it when they just bust out a hilarious line
MARTIN was stacking tape recorders on the coffin????? i thought they just appeared,, holy shit. okay.
”we’re you compel” peter not being able to comprend that martin did it of his own free will because he CARES. or he knows that martin cares and it’s his goal to STOP that.
he’s for SURE worried about jon, even though he says he isn’t, and knowing if jon could compel martin EVEN THROUGH the influence of the buried would be incredibly important to know. he’s working WITH the eye, but i don’t know if i trust The Lonely to work with anyone for any extended period of time.
#fizz listens to tma#ep 134#these posts are jumping to analysis faster now#because i’m SO into it now and i care SO much about these characters atp#putting this in the tags because it isn’t really episode relevant but it IS#but i really like how the show’s exploring/using martin’s long-developed crush on jon#it really does feel so intentional not in conveying some sort of future romantic connection between them#but it’s using it as a vessel for horror which is TERRIFYING#like martin’s connection to jon (and his care for the archive to a lesser extent#feels like a source for manipulation#and it leans into the web i feel#this twisting of his care for another person#esp since we NOW as listeners are seeing jon change from actively avoiding interaction with martin#and describing him as a nuicance#to ACTUALLY saying TO HIS FACE that he misses him#i as an audience member feel kind of??? manipulated when listening to their dynamic#because it’s always one-sided in one way or another#or either party is so desperate for connection or safety#i LOVE their relationship but i don’t think i want it to continue as a romantic connection#if that makes sense#i dont know#i’m curious to hear how esp martin’s side of it is explored#and again#i just#i LOVE jon so so much#every time i think about it i feel a little ill but he cares SO MUCH for the archive staff#his FRIENDS that hes finally decided to TRUST#that are all pulling away from him in some way or another#even when he tried to help (daisy)#or when he didn’t have time to fix anything before it was too late (tim)
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i think cass and duke both have (different) complicated relationships with whether or not they see bruce as their father (or even the bats as their family) but we’re not allowed to talk about that bc people would just use it as another excuse to exclude them
#like dukes parents (or just his mom??? i can’t remember) are alive and his mom is even back to normal now i think#so even when bruce took him in he had trouble straight up thinking of bruce as his dad#but he was still like. a father figure#and cass’s dad was alive and she loved him & he loved her. but that is clearly not enough#and. you know. not a good thing at all#so she saw bruce as her father but also felt weird about it#not to mention she wasn’t even officially adopted until right before he died#idk. i just think both of them have very complicated feelings about that#but it’s hard to say that without being afraid the Wrong People would agree with me#i think tim also has a weird relationship with bruce as his father but i don’t know or care enough about tim to be sure about that#like maybe i’m wrong#but i feel like tim always thought of the adoption as a practical move rather than bruce actually becoming his dad#not that he DOESNT think of bruce as his dad but i feel like it’s just not as straightforward as people pretend it is
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jack drake is a dad for sure
#Okay hi i need to get out all my thoughts (at the midpoint-ish of robin/where no mans land stuff is happening)#Because it’s like. He is not a good father. But he also loves his son both are true at the same time#It’s like. he pulls out all the stops during no man’s land. and getting worried and mad when tim up and disappears suddenly a ton is a#reasonable reaction. But with that said. he sucks as a dad just differently from popular portrayal#I think everyone should read to the father I never knew b4 saying anything about Tim’s relationship with his dad. Like. Jack loves him and#he has an image of tim in his head that is very different from what he actually is#<- i don’t think only cares about status drakes is true at all like it’s a different issue.#<- and on that note janet is fridged so early so putting any sort of bad mom thing on her is just. like. misogyny#BUT anyways he also sucks as a father real bad the. tv ripping incident is genuinely haunting#He has a skewed perception of himself he’s constantly like I’ve been permissive.. when Tim comes back this time I’m going to be so#strict. As if he isn’t authoritative and terrible#Also his continued like I’m going to be a better father. (proceeds not to do that)#Also I’m always thinking of that one panel from the robin miniseries where they’re like dad we won’t let anything come in between us again#& the bat signal is in the background. genuinely showstopping.#Anyways. Yeah. Jack drake. Is a dad for sure. Not a good one. He sucks. In a way that is different from popular portrayal#In a rlly interesting way.#esha.txt#dc#tim
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#ok but do we all agree that Jason should be Seymour since he not only died but was the one Bruce loved the most#and that Tim should be Cleves because he was insulted anytime Bruce implied he couldn’t take care of himself#and he replaced Jason (Seymour) without Bruce choosing to and then was forced out for Damian (Howard)#Damian who was constantly sacrificing his whole being on the altar of a man (R’as) at such a young age#being given to a stranger who doesn’t understand him and finding the love that stranger was supposed to give in another man (Dick)#don’t ask me abt the others I need more time to think about that#also I feel the threat of beheading would carry heavy on Damian’s shoulders w the knowledge that#his grandfather/mother want him dead to replace him like how Parr replaced Howard
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