#TWO STATE SOLUTION NOW!
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What ‘From the River to the Sea’ Really Means & Why Israel Can’t Win, w/ Vijay Prashad
#free palestine#israel#gaza#vijay prashad#worth watching just for prashad#he goes into the geopolitical context and implications of what's now happening in palestine#including the (possible end of?) saudi/israel normalizations#he also does a great job of explaining why the two state solution is no longer an option
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There are over 7 million Jews in Israel.
There are over 5 million Palestinians in Palestine, and nearly 2 million in Israel.
Neither are going anywhere.
And if you want them to, you either haven't thought about what that would really mean... or you're a monster.
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It flabbergasts me that people are trying so hard to ensure Trump's reelection while claiming it's because they care about the Palestinians.
#VOTE#israel palestine conflict#gaza#palestine#free palestine#save palestine#two state solution#bring them home now#arrest netanyahu#free palestine from hamas#kamala harris#donald trump#islam#muslim#judaism#israel#religion#2024 elections#vote blue#vote harris#vote kamala
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"Zionism is just Israeli nationalist ideology" tell me in fewer words that you know fuck-all about the history of Zionism. Zionism is Jewish nationalism (and should be opposed on those grounds), but it was once entirely possible to be a convinced Zionist active in the Zionist movement and be entirely opposed to the state of Israel, to any state Jewish or not, to a Jewish state in the Holy Land, to a mononational Israel that excludes the native Arab population, and etc etc etc. It is a complex movement, and reducing its complexity is what allows Zionist to function so effectively as an anti-Semitic dogwhistle, and one of the things that permits anti-Semitism to flourish on the Left.
#i agree that those positions are now completely beyond the pale in the Zionist movement and impossible to imagine#but it wasn't always so#what about Hibbad Zion? Ahad Ha'am? Zalkind? Buber? A. D Gordon?#etc etc etc#also like... if you or your orgs stance is the two-state solution then your ofg is Zionist lol
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I'm giving up on my belief in the continued existence of Israel as a state being right and appropriate.
I know to many people on Tumblr, this seems like a no-brainer, but I am a 40 year old Jewish USAdian, raised by my Poppop - a lower east side child of immigrants, whose unit in WW2 helped liberate Dachau - and by parents who were both born before the end of the war. I was raised that Israel existed as a place of safety for us, a place I could always have a home. I've always supported a two-state solution, always wanted safety and security for Palestinians, always wanted a co-existence that took into account the many challenges caused by history and recent events. Even as the Israeli government has grown more conservative, I've separated the current politics from the national existence and hoped for more liberal regimes and real change. I didn't want to let go of the pipe dream, didn't want to believe that Jews, with our history, could behave like this.
Giving up on Israel hurts.
But not as much as seeing the parade of dead Palestian children does.
If what's happening in Gaza is the cost for Israel's existence, then that cost is far, FAR too high.
If Palestian lives are the cost of Israel's existence, then Israel shouldn't exist.
There.
I've said it, typed it with tears in my eyes.
I'm done.
This needs to end. Israel needs to end.
(If for some reason someone wants to reblog this, you may.)
#unforth rambles#free palestine#i still see many jews clinging to solutions i think are no longer possible#maybe if i speak up other jews will begin considering something#that even up to a few weeks ago it was unfathomable to me to imagine believibg#at absolute minimum a two state solution would now have to be like post nazi germany#a whole new government and incredibly strict laws to ensure this doesnt happen again#israel cannot continue as it is now#some prices are just too high
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this is a jewish woman
#g talks#the genocidal meaning is the only meaning I’ve seen it have#‘no it means free of occupation!!’ so you want a ‘free palestine’ but jews are homeless#that’s what you want#you don’t want a two state solution#you want the inverse of what you believe is happening now#assflash newshole that’s what hamas and antisemites want#congrats#antisemitism#mine#/mobile#/okay to reblog
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Today, 28 May 2024, is the day that Ireland, Spain, and Norway formally recognise the State of Palestine.
I am proud of my Irish heritage, and I will always be proud of my Irish heritage.
#free gaza#free palestine#palestine#stop the genocide#ceasefire#two state solution#irish solidarity with palestine#ceasefire now
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Ready for tomorrow's day of action.
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Donald Trump is calling Netanyahu up and telling him to prevent a ceasefire because it will help Kamala Harris.
Why is he doing that? Because Harris and Biden are trying to negotiate a ceasefire, and he doesn't want them to get credit for doing it.
I do not want to hear one more Goddamn word about how helping Trump win is the "pro-Palestinian" or "anti-genocide" position.
#US#Politics#Election#2024#Israel#Gaza#Palestine#Trump#Netanyahu#Fuck Trump#Trump Genocide#Republican Genocide#Logan Act#Unauthorized Diplomacy#Lock Him Up Now#Ceasefire Now#Ceasefire For Hostages#Two State Solution#Kamala Harris 2024#Kamala For Peace#Vote#Vote Blue
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if ppl telling you "jewish ppl in israel were already kicked out of other countries and have no where else to go" makes you feel compelled to call whoever said that a "zionist", I really just dont think you give af about jewish ppl's lives quite frankly.
if your "free palestine" means "getting rid" of all jewish civilians in israel I think you're probably just a heartless asshole.
#two state solution ftw#or at least something along those lines#yelling at average jewish ppl who ARENT in israel is antisemitic#anti semitism- no matter how 'big of a deal' you think it is naturally makes jewish ppl feel unsafe by default#where do they go when theres nowhere else thats safe? you guessed it- probably to israel.#which is WHAT netanyahu wants. he wants scared controllable civilians to think hes the only one who can protect them#so you being anti semitic and not checking yourself on it or being 'whatever its nbd' about it is making everything so much worse#STOP BEING SO FUCKING APATHETIC FUCK ILL BEAT YOU UP TO MAKE YOU FEEL SOMETHING IF I HAVE TO#i dont feel like i can in good conscious reblog your 'free palestine' posts bc idk wtf the op thinks about jewish ppl being in#israel. and at this point i dont have faith in leftists to not notice the antisemitism in some of these ppl and call it out#its not something we can 'push aside and deal with and apologize for later' its ACTIVELY MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE AND NEEDS#TO BE ADDRESSED RIGHT THE FUCK NOW#maybe jewish ppl wouldnt be calling it 'self defense' if yall didnt keep being antisemitic and making them feel like they have to cling#to israel to stay tf alive. fuck.#OBVIOUSLY the response to what hamas did is disproportionate and affecting more people than israel says it intends to target#but thats the govt. and actual regular people are worried about their families. its disproportionate and probably being used as an excuse#to genocide palestinians but this wouldnt be happening if hamas didnt basically GIVE the israeli govt the excuse to do it.#free palestine. from hamas and from the israeli govt. and dont have genocidal intent toward jewish ppl.#thats all i want.#hamas' escalation did nothing but hurt everyone and make things worse especially for palestinians.
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moral quandary
Pissed off that people believe all the bullshit they're being spoonfed by religious extremist billionaires in Qatar.
#israel#i stand with israel#bring them home now#two state solution#al jazeera#ismail haniyeh#ceasefire#peace for all#peace for gaza#i am tired
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#two state solution#is bullshit#israel is a settler colony#fuck capitalism#capitalism kills#we live in hell#socialism now#abolish capitalism#peoples union
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I want to reblog things that support Palestine but every time I see someone write "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" I think of what people have told me about people using that statement as a call for genocide of Israeli people... and as much as I want Palestinian people to be free, I don't think massacring another group of people, many of which have been in Israel their entire lives, is the answer either
#shut up jay#I just want people to stop dying#it's so heartbreaking to watch#I was heartbroken when I heard about the Hamas attack and I'm heartbroken over what is happening in Gaza#please stop killing each other#what I know about a two state solution sounds like the only peaceful resolution to this#to let each group have their own space and land and let each other live in peace#for fucks sake just let there be peace#ceasefire now#call for a ceasefire#israel#palestine#israeli palestinian war
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I just said this in a comment to a mutual, but I think it bears saying publicly, and this is the only thing I'm going to say publicly on this topic.
I think, and have thought for a long time, that Israel is wrong.
But that doesn't mean I think Hamas is right.
#unforth rambles#politics#current events#i know just enough about this to know its been a disaster since the very beginning going back 75 years#i cant support the israeli government#and i do support palestianian civilians#whats happening now helps no one and will result in more harm to civilians on both sides#im 40 and for as long as ive watched this conflict all ive seen is hate breed hate#i wish a true sensible and fair peace was eaay#i hope for a two state solution#i think its the only hope#im so tired#friendly neighborhood reminder that im jewish
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#it's both kind of funny and genuinely shocking#how many self proclaimed leftists there are i see on here and social media more broadly#who nonetheless wholeheartedly buy in to this almost fukuyama-n sense of american power#this stated or implied sense that if american elites wanted something to happen in the world it would happen#and look to be clear i disagree wholeheartedly with biden's handling of the ongoing genocide in palestine right now#it's clear that the US does have plenty of leverage it could be using and isn't#but it's so silly to me that people can't also see the us isn't running this show#instead like. the us is a declining imperial power#that's already shown it can't reliably project sufficient power to secure its preferred policies in the middle east#and it now has an unruly fascist-trending semi-client state armed with nuclear weapons#with substantial cultural and financial influence on us domestic politics#and the aspiring fascist leader of which has made sure to maintain significant ties with other far-right/fascist leaders like putin#and when the us has given the SMALLEST amount of pushback israeli officials have just straight up refused and contradicted it#that's why you've got israeli ambassadors giving interviews just fully admitting there will be no two state solution#biden administration pushes for timelines and bibi goes on tv and says nah#i fear we rightfully critiqued the lack of ethics in realpolitik and then forgot to inject a sense of reality into a politics based on ethi#*ethics#anyway rant over will probably delete later
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It's been a year and the death stats are, as of Wikipedia this morning:
1,734 dead Israelis 42,612 dead Palestinians
When the death rate is 25:1, that 1 is not fighting a war of self-defence. That 1 is taking disproportionate revenge.
Ceasefire and two-state solution now.
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