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neverendingparable · 1 year ago

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(THERE IS A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH I SCRIBBLE AWAY AT THE SURVEY WITH A HORRIBLY BASTARDIZED BIRO THAT KEEPS SPRINGING APART EVERY THREE SECONDS. BUT EVENTUALLY I SUCCEED AND HAND ULMAR THE PAPER BACK)

THE STANLEY PARABLE: ULTRA DELUXE SATISFACTION SURVEY

Question 1: Did you enjoy The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe? Y/N

well really i think it should be written 'did you enjoy the stanley parable: ultra deluxe, y/n?' but

ohhhhhhhh you meant yes/no. um. yes!!!

Question 2: What was your favorite ending? Please provide a short description why.

the skip button ending x) bc it reminds me of a dear dear friend sniff sniff sniff... oh sk(THE PAPER IS SOAKED WITH TEARS TO THE POINT THE REST OF THE WRITING IS UNREADABLE DESPITE THE FACT AT NO POINT IN THE ANSWERING PROCESS DID I APPEAR TO BE CRYING)

Question 3: What was your most played ending? If it is different than your favorite one, please explain why.

ooooooooo um. comedy timing ending. i play it a lot so i can master the art of comedic timing to a higher degree. and also simply because for some reason i find it spooky

enjoyment wise it probably IS my favourite but i feel this loyalty to the skip button because (ANOTHER SPLATTER OF TEARS) oh for fucks sake let's go on

Question 4: How likely are you to recommend the game to other players? 1 - Not likely, 10 - Extremely likely

ERMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 1. not because its a bad game simply because i'm a sad, sad little man with not a lot of friends and even if i did have friends i don't often go around reccomending games to them

well, you did say 'players' and not 'friends', i guess. i don't necessarily have to be chummy with these hypothetical people. erm. players of what, that's the question.. players of the stanley parable (2013)? 10. well, no, uh, 3. because i would presume they'd already heard about the game. so it would be redundant to reccomend it then, wouldn't it? what about players of golf? um. actually, 7. because if i was talking with someone who played golf then i must REALLY be friends with them and so maybe id be more likely to reccomend this. but what's the context of the reccomendation? is this an online post? have i bumped into them at a party? are we- oh lawks ive run out of space

Question 5: What is your feedback to the developers, writers or narrators of this game? (Please note that intense negative feedback might have serious mental and physical consequences on those involved)

IMPLEMENT ANOTHER SKIP BUTTO- heheh no i jest i jest. sorry. i mean um.

TOBY. uh. T O B Y. i am going to tell a joke in which i reccomend feedback that has caused serious mental and physical consequences on those involved in the past, before cutting myself off (at which time you will laugh). i will then tell the developer, writers, or narrators to 'kill yourselves' (a phrase designed once more to imply serious mental and physical consequences) before cutting myself off again (where you will then laugh). um. T O B Y.

IMPLEMENT ANOTHER SKIP BUTTO- heheh no i jest i jest. just kidding. um. KILL YOURSEL- er, no. OKAY I'M NOW DONEY WITH THE FUNNY. please just fill out this eleven page survey for me. question one: did you like that joke? y/n

question two: will you m- aw shit im out of room again

Question 6: Have you ever worked in the Office? If so, do you find the experience of The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe realistic? If not, does The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe provide you with a positive image of the work environment in an office?

i have never worked in an office. um. ive never actually worked anywhere fun fact. but let's see. psychological experimentation, complete lack of regard for health and safety, mind control, sick-ass lounge- yeah it seems pretty positive to me!!

Question 7: Do you find Stanley relatable?

yes i too have a british voice in my head constantly providing me with annoying commentary. except he's called cas. haha. sorry that was a joke.

what i mean to say is ummmmmm TOBY. T O B- oh forget it. next question!

Question 8: Did you try to destroy the Bucket? Would you have preferred the game without the Bucket? How easy was it for you to attempt to destroy the Bucket? Do you love the Bucket?

I WOULD NEVER TRY TO DESTROY THE BUCKET... that is my FRIEND my LIFELONG COMPANION.... i have DREAMED ABOUT HER. don't try to make me think about a game without the bucket. that's like thinking about a world without sunshine or the bright happy laughter of children. shudders. what a horrible idea. abysmal, really. hey, is your name just straight up 'ulmar'?

Ulmar takes the survey with a beaming smile, reads over it once and then tucks it away, presumably to drop it off somewhere the developers or a Narrator could read through it.

He doesn't comment on the answers provided.

#networksupported #asks #the stanley parable ultra deluxe #ulmar deluxe #lmfaoo amazing #the stanley parable

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flockofdoves · 3 years ago

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can someone help me refine my thesis statement for a paper i have to do :(

just making absolutely no progress with it because the stronger thesis statement i was gonna use ended up not having enough sources to actually have a paper about that

and then the other topic im interested in and have a lot of sources surrounding i've been so stuck in writing because theres not actually like . an actual goal in the paper or anything

and im having trouble like figuring stuff out by talking through it with other people bc i either feel like i need to censor myself when talking to writing coaches on campus when so much of my topic has to do with communism

or just people have no knowledge on topics related to resistance movements of latin america (what the class is about and what the paper needs to be about regardless of specific topic) and so when my problem is less with composing writing and more with coming up with a specific premise for the paper the people ive tried to get help from havent really been able to help :(

putting more info about it under the cut

heres my kinda vague notes from meeting with a writing coach (kinda censored myself but like. i think it should be obvious what makes these various organizing efforts similar dual power etc etc

"workplace occupation/cooperatives/soviets as organizational strategy?

autogestion/workers cooperatives in argentina and chile (especially fasinpat)

cooperatives among Zapatista women

venezuelan communes (geo maher book)

cuban sugar mills 1930s general strike and creation of soviets

maybe also MST in brazil??

Define the research question(s). What problems are you seeking to address, and in what

national context(s) and time period?

explore similarities between various movements where people have taken control of their workplaces and organized them not just to create a better working environment, but to connect with their communities at large and provide for needs (maybe in competition with existing government)

State your hypotheses. What argument(s) are you planning to make? (you can change your mind later)

Explain the implications. Why is this topic important?"

and then heres my sources i've read and am using so far:

Carr, Barry. 1996. “Mill Occupations and Soviets: The Mobilisation of Sugar Workers in Cuba 1917-1933.” Journal of Latin American Studies 28 (1): 129–58.

Ciccariello-Maher, George. n.d. “Venezuela: ¡Comuna o Nada!,” 5. Gilbert, Chris. 2021. “Red Current, Pink Tide: A Visit to El Maizal Commune in Venezuela.” Monthly Review: An Independent Socialist Magazine 73 (7): 29–38. https://doi.org/10.14452/MR-073-07-2021-11_3.

havent finished yet but also using geo maher's book building the commune

Harvey, Neil. 2015. “Practicing Autonomy: Zapatismo and Decolonial Liberation.” Latin American and Caribbean Ethnic Studies, October, 1–24. https://doi.org/10.1080/17442222.2015.1094872.

Ranis, Peter. 2010. “Argentine Worker Cooperatives in Civil Society: A Challenge to Capital–Labor Relations.” WorkingUSA 13 (1): 77–105. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1743-4580.2010.00273.x.

Trigona, Maria. 2006. “Recuperated Enterprises in Argentina: Reversing the Logic of Capitalism.” March 17, 2006. https://zcomm.org/zblogs/reversing-the-logic-of-capitalism-by-marie-trigona/.

Wynter, Coral. 2017. “Venezuela: Inside the Worker-Run ‘Proletarios Unios’ Factory.” Green Left. Green Left. Venezuela. October 13, 2017. https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/venezuela-inside-worker-run-proletarios-unios-factory.

but yeah . i think my biggest interest would be in creating a stronger thesis that could involve a lot of the sources i've already sunk so much time into collecting a reading instead of just being like 'yeah this stuff is similar let me list descriptions of them'. but i'm open to other stuff too

heres also the other topic ive spent time researching that i don't have enough for in case i can make something out of synthesizing some of this too

"Define the research question(s). What problems are you seeking to address, and in what

national context(s) and time period?

considerations of location and distribution of workers in the structure and success of a movement, specifically looking at the role of transportation workers.

uruguay 1911 general strike, 1930s cuban sugar mill occupations (failure of communication across distance)

Mention your sources. What sources (or what types of sources) do you plan to consult?

Carr, Barry. 1996. “Mill Occupations and Soviets: The Mobilisation of Sugar Workers in Cuba 1917-1933.” Journal of Latin American Studies 28 (1): 129–58.

Pineo, Ronn F. 1988. “Reinterpreting Labor Militancy: The Collapse of the Cacao Economy and the General Strike of 1922 in Guayaquil, Ecuador.” The Hispanic American Historical Review 68 (4): 707–36. https://doi.org/10.2307/2515679.

Rosenthal, Anton. 1995. “Streetcar Workers and the Transformation of Montevideo: The General Strike of May 1911.” The Americas 51 (4): 471–94. https://doi.org/10.2307/1007677.

•State your hypotheses. What argument(s) are you planning to make? (you can change your

mind later)

ability to communicate across distances can have huge affect on movements

transportation workers tend to play huge roles in mass movements like general strikes (at least before advent of internet? not sure whether to get into that)

• Explain the implications. Why is this topic important?

can be consideration for future movements"

so yeah! sorry for all this. would love any input if people feel up to it ..

#cpost

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inkdemonapologist · 4 years ago

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Tfw it’s like 6am and your penpal shows up at your hotel room but he’s like partially a demon and also won’t stop smiling????

Hi again Allison we’re all Very Normal

[BatIM Call of Cthulhu Masterpost]

ANYWAY HAVE SOME, OUT-OF-CONTEXT QUOTES for Session 6!!

[Sammy is played by me, Joey is played by Boo (inkyvendingmachine), Henry is played by Maf (inkcryptid), Jack is played by Mochi (whatyouwantedmetosee) and Thren (haunted-hijinxer) is our GM!]

[GM] You said you were there for... inSPECTION?? [Jack] In hindsight, that must've been a HECK of a Fast Talk considering half the group is in pyjamas.

[Henry] It wouldn't be the first time someone tried to sacrifice Henry.

[GM] *about Sammy's sacrifice attempts* He was very polite about it. [Sammy] Yeah, he was! [Henry] He was very polite, he gets points for politeness. [GM] And then he got yelled at, so unfairly! By someone. [Sammy] And then melted! So everyone was on the whole very rude about it. It's your own fault he's like this now.

[GM] We'll say it's ajar, how about that? [Joey] Oh, I thought it was a door.

[Sammy] You can spend Luck!! [Jack] Do I want to use Luck points, though? Here's the problem, I'm the person who finishes the JRPG with twelve thousand healing items, and has used TWO. [Sammy] Here's my counterargument: if your Luck gets really low, you start failing Luck checks, and bad things happen to your character. [Jack] ...that's a perfect counterargument, I'm going to do it.

[GM] You both spot the hat with the press card! Lying on the floor, over by one corner of the sliding doors. [Jack] Oh that's BETTER than taking sanity damage! [Sammy] EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!

[Joey] There's another jug of space juice. [Sammy] I don't want space juice!! I WANT PAINT.

[Henry] *tired* Hey, Sam. [Sammy] What providence, my little sheep! [Henry] ...Good to see you too.

[Sammy] Go into the other room and introduce yourself! [Joey] With two hats on. [Sammy] ASSERT DOMINANCE!

[Jack] Jack is going to take the hat. He's going to have, uh, at least one emotion. [Jack] Maybe more [Jack] Imagine

[Joey] Joey is immediately going to clamp his hand onto Sammy's shoulder, and ask him if he can feel it. [Sammy] UHHH? His... hand...? [Joey] Not-- No, the stone. [Sammy] OH

[Jack] Jack, how are you going to communicate this if one of your hands is taken up by a hat? [Joey] Interpretative dance! [Sammy] Put hat in elbow while writing, you can juggle stuff, [Henry] Put the hat on. Over your other hat.

[Sammy] Sammy will scurry with or without the sheep, but they are his navigation system, so,

[Joey] That is a place we are known to be by the people who tried to... murder us?? Or something. Snake us??????? [Jack] (Snurder.) [Joey] Snurder us.

[Henry] We're just gonna grab our stuff and head out and... let you finish dealing with the sNAKE, I guess!! [Jack] (the snake has already been dealt with!) [Henry] Okay, but the aftermath of the snake! The snaftermath.

[Sammy] In case we get grabbed by an Angel [Sammy] the much less well-liked sequel to Touched by an Angel,

[Sammy] You traitorous sheep, this is not what I asked you for! [Joey] Do you want to die. Is that what you’re interested in?! Just, sacrificing yourself, without doing the proper rituals, not getting anything done--?! [Sammy] What do you know of proper rituals?! [GM] (....quite a lot, actually,) [Joey] Yeah! Much more than you do! And I will make an intimidation roll! [Jack] Boys,... you’re both pretty,... it’s okay....

[Joey] We’re pretty sure there’s Angels.... does she know how to kill them. [Jack] What a first thing to—! No pleasantries, no “please excuse the fact that I’m grinning and have weird eyes and also Sammy has weird eyes and also I have a tail,”

[GM, speaking for Allison] She would like to know what all this is about! [Joey] We’re having problems— [Sammy] He tried to contain something that should not be contained!! [Joey] Shut up, Sammy! We’re having problems!

[Joey] Joey is just going to quickly explain that he.................... [Joey] *mumbling to himself* how do you explain this???

[Joey] Um... I guess he’s going to mentally ping Bendy and ask him how he would describe himself? Like... what was his job, I guess?? Security??? [GM] Bendy says that he’s an eldritch construct that was defending a cult... and now he is something else! That he doesn’t have a word for. [Jack] !! He’s a FRIEND now!!! [GM] He’s friend-shaped! But not at the moment. [Joey] No, right now he’s Joey-shaped.

[Sammy] I mean the whole body is garbage but you apparently want Sammy to wear clothes, so whatever.

[GM] Allison adds that she thinks she might have a connection to get you guys in to the party, if you need that -- [Joey] Wouldn't hurt! [GM] -- so long as you don't mind pretending to be the help! [Joey] ...hm,,,

[Joey] Admittedly, having two angles would be better than one. [GM] Two angels, what? [Sammy] There's an "I can be your angle or yuor devil" joke somewhere in this campaign...

[Sammy] Well, we've learned how to bind an angel, [Jack] Gotta teach the angel proper binding techniques!

[Sammy] Sammy will thank Allison for her help. [Joey] Oh god, there IS something wrong with him!

[Joey] Let's go get Norman tied up in this more! So we can hire him later!!

[Sammy] Jack over there like "I hope it doesn't taste bad" meanwhile Sammy's been grimacing as he swallows paint for the last two hours, [GM] Ink is much better, didn't you know! [Sammy] Ink is better... this tastes wrong... [Joey] I just really love the idea of Sammy longingly looking at Joey's flask like, "aw, you have the good medicine, mine tastes like the terrible cherry crap!"

[GM] So you all have shots with Allison! Space juice shots. [Jack] What a way to start the morning!

[Jack] These boys are gonna heckin' pass out! [GM] They got, what, maybe 3 hours of sleep? [Jack] And all of Jack's sleep last night was sat upright in bed, with his glasses on, surrounded by notes, [Henry] sounds like college [Jack] You're exactly right, Jack's sleep was exactly like college! He was stressed, he didn't sleep for very long, he was surrounded by notes, Pete was there,

[Joey] *saying farewell to Allison* Keep yourself safe; don't go out where we're going. [Joey] Unless we don't return, then pLEASE COME OUT AND FIND US,

[GM] Norman says, "Oh, I see you're back with your friends, Smiley." [Jack] I love the concept of Norman calling Sammy "Smiley," and then Prophet Sammy, in response to this, smiles, and Norman has no idea if this is like, weird? or some kind of strange power move to assert dominance.

[GM, as Norman] When I said I saw things happening on the 2nd, you're the one that went pale! [Joey] How's Prophet Sammy's cONCEPT OF TIME, [Sammy] Not great!!!! [Sammy] I don't think he... knows when the 2nd was.

[Sammy] Forgive my memory. That doesn’t ring a bell! [Joey] He's... a little affected right now. [Norman] ...you don't say...

[Joey] Listen. I have $75 here for you, to take us out to the lake, as soon as possible. [a couple minutes of googling later] [Jack] That's equivalent to $1,464. Joey. [Sammy] CAN YOU IMAGINE?? "We need you to take us to the lake please" "Alright, but explain to me what's going on?" "SORRY, the guy who said that is clearly HIGH OUT OF HIS MIND, here's A THOUSAND DOLLARS, take us to the lake please!" [Jack] its a trip to the lake, what could it cost, $75 [Joey] *laughing* I should've looked up how much money I was saying before I was saying it, [Sammy] No, no, I think this is accurate to JOEY DREW

[Henry] Henry is just watching everything happening... [Sammy] Henry is waiting for the next video game breadcrumb trail to show up. [Henry] YEAH, [Jack] “Oh! Looks like I need to put three gears in this thing!”

[Sammy] I'm so angry on Sammy's behalf that you've made him meet two different people like this.

[Joey] If he does ask for money later, Joey's going to give it to him, because he has no concept of.... money.... [Sammy] No concept of GIVING OUT ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS [Jack] Can Joey Drew meet me, in real life, please? [Joey] I don't know if you want that to happen,, that might be more of a curse,,, [Jack] I'll take a curse! Gimme money! [Sammy] vOICE OF EVERY JDS EMPLOYEE

[GM] And you've got suits, and dress shoes...... [Sammy] We are not dressed for this. [Sammy] ...We are more dressed for it than we were earlier. I promise you, Norman, this is a step up, believe it or not.

[Sammy] Probably making a face because it tastes bad. [Henry] Tastes like paint! [GM] The cab driver might just wonder if that's a new drink this year. [Sammy] If nobody jumped on top of Sammy to stop him from using his mouth, he would probably say something with vibes of "this is beyond your comprehension" [Joey] Joey might try to stop that, and instead just be like, “Yes. It is.” [Henry] He's high. Don't worry about it. [Jack] Driver's just like "oh, I should try some of that when I get off work, seems like a good time!" [Sammy] You should! It'll open your eyes! [Sammy] (I'll stop evangelising the cab driver now.)

[Henry] Henry is: Sims Tense Moodlet.

[Joey] Joey instantly does not like this, and it is apparent on his face, if Sammy can see it in the mist. [Sammy] Probably not! [Jack] You could say he mist it!

[Henry] We need to hurry—! [Sammy] *screaming* THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING!!!!!!

[Sammy] Sammy will be, sort of... whispering reassurance? I don't know how reassuring it actually is, [Henry] I'm sorry Sam, nothing about you is reassuring right now. [Sammy] Just kind of like, hush hush, come my sheep, that sort of thing, [Joey] Prophet ASMR Channel! [Jack] I'm sure Jack would appreciate this actually, it's a shame he's not the one getting this, [Joey] No, he's getting whatever comfort Joey can offer, which, uh, [Sammy] Well, and I will say, he's not like, whispering it in Henry's ear, like-- [Jack] I don't think Sammy in any form is capable of whispering. [Sammy] ...y'know [Sammy] that's fair

[Sammy] Well everyone's doing alright! We're doing great, it's going great! [Jack] Nooooo! No going great! I want more insanities! [Jack] ...I can stop at any time, I swear.

[Sammy] We can hold Norman's hand if you want, like, that's up to you. [Joey] Roll for gay, Norman! [Henry] Take him to dinner first,

[Sammy] This is such a bad idea that we're having.

[Joey] Joey is probably at this point holding onto someone else to guide him, and more in his head than not. [Sammy] Sammy's out of hands at this point, Joey, so you'll just have to figure this out. [Sammy] Got his hands full of sheep.

[Joey] Did Norman drink the juice. [GM] Did he...? Did he...... I think he was convinced enough by “this drink will save your life” that he does take a drink! [Joey] I'll roll intimidation if that helps! [GM] Yeah, you can roll to see how quickly he does it, or if he drinks enough of it. [Joey] *rolls* That's an EXTREME SUCCESS. [GM] Well, there we go; there's a preview, Norman, of your work environment!

#call of cthulu: haunted hijinx #joey drew #when in doubt just keep drawing #jack henry sammy and allison are here too #i just love the permasmile so much

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still-a-morosexual-help · 3 years ago

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AAhh I really like 45 it pushed the story along while also being just hilarious and touching and it was just so good!! 46 was just pokemon battles...

OBEY ME! LESSON 45 DETAILED SUMMARY

At breakfast the most of the brothers crowd around MC and ask them how different appliances work, Asmo apologizes for them and then immediately asks MC something as well and well Belphie calls him out on it he says he hasn't been in the human world for a really long time and things have changed. Beel says that the human world progresses so fast that it makes him dizzy and Asmo says maybe it feels like that since the devildom doesn't progress. Lucifer tells MC to get ready to leave once they're done eating (still on the white couches is2g this pisses me off so much) and when MC asks him wtf he says oh yeah forgot you nearly died while Solomon told you about getting a sorcerer's license. MC's got a meeting with Solomon and Beel & Lucifer were asked to come along. Mammon & Asmo protest cause they can't tag along. Belphie says that Beel and Lucifer were probably chosen cause they'll at least appear as mature functioning adults.

They meet up with Solomon in front of the Sorcerer's Society HQ, which according to Solomon is filled with "Pompous Uptight Bureaucrats". It provides assistance to sorcerer's living in the human world and provides them with first a provisional license and then a full license that'll allow them to practice magic as they pls more or less. Lucifer's like; that's great and all but why the fuck are we here. And Solomon tells him that he'll understand when they get inside. Lucifer says that sounds exactly like something someone who was seconds away from causing problems would say and he tells MC to brace themself.

The backgrounds for both these lessons are really good! Right so when they walk in sorcerers start ooing and awing over Beel and Lucifer - they've never seen them irl before, one even wants their autographs. Apparently Solomon's apprentice taming the 7 rulers was believed to be an urban legend?????????? I dunno imagine going from being a normal human to becoming an urban legend amongst sorcerers? Lucifer thinks Solomon brought them along just to boost MC's reputation (ohhh the poor man). Solomon reveals that he isn't on good terms with the society (is it even a surprise?) and being his apprentice would just make things harder for MC and that he established the society with his previous apprentice long ago but they had a falling out and now that apprentice runs the society (is it sad that there's a huge possibility that the falling out could be food related?). Solomon says he brought the brothers as bodyguards for his cute apprentice/charming apprentice/favourite pupil (If he keeps talking like that whoever runs this place is gonna deck MC) since back in the Celestial Realm the two of the were known as "the two greatest champions and protectors of the CR". Beel gets pissed off cause he thinks this means Solomon is putting MC in danger and Solomon says 'lol that's definitely not who I'm putting in danger' and when Lucifer picks up on that and questions Solomon on it he goes 'man look at the time we really gotta go get MC registered WOW'. The dude at the reception uses his staff to etch a magic seal that's the society's crest on to the back of MC's hand (I really feel like you should tell someone beforehand that you're gonna give them what is basically a tattoo? Also cant wait for that butcher to see this and the rest of MC's harem and come to the conclusion that they're in a cult) which consists of 3 staves and 7 stars signifying the 3 Magis who are believed to have invented magical arts and the 7 virtues (is it bad that before i even started om i knew what the 7 sins were but only had a vague knowledge about the 7 virtues? I wouldn't have been able to name them all without this lesson :/ anyway they're humility, generosity, gratitude, patience, chastity, temperance and diligence. Something i really like is that the brothers have all displayed the virtues that directly oppose their sins on a semi regular to regular basis). To get their license apprentuces must earn the seven stars via passing 7 trials with the first of the trials being set and judged by their master. (ok so I assumed each test would focus on a brother and MC'd earn the star that opposes each brother's sin and would pass the test by learning and displaying the virtue of that star. But that isn't what happened here? If anything the test was there to teach Lucifer humility? Is that how it will go? will each test somehow focus on MC helping the brothers learn and display their opposing virtue even though all of them have already displayed this virtue to some extent? I mean I guess the main point of the tests were to show that MC could control the brothers so that makes sense? but even though this test did focus on making Lucifer let go of his pride, the test was about MC learning to control Beel's power and these two lessons are very much focused on Beel so was the star they earned actually temperance? Even though the test didn't have anything to do with that virtue? Ahh i have so many questions about how the stars are earned and neither lesson really clarify it and if anyone wants to come debate about this???)

ANYway Solomon uses a spell to bind Lucifer in place, which pisses Beel off, tho when MC stays calm and just observes what happens Solomon is pleased assessing a situation before taking action is important (Ive had this HC for a while now but solomon is definitely the kinda teacher who throws you into the deep end with just a cryptic warning and watches with a smile as you try to figure out how to not die, if you do something particularly amusing while struggling he'll give you another cryptic hint, occasionally he'll yell out praise with that smile of his even if it looks like you're actively drowning and dying and failing). They start to get an audience while Lucifer threatens Solomon and shifts into his demon form and goes also im still fucking pissed off about that lunch so/ Beel also shifts and threatens Solomon, tho lucifer tells him to stand down cause he wants to murder solomon on his own and that a mere binding spell won't hold him down, Solomon's like Jeez chill it's for MC's exam you fucknugget and Lucifer's like oh shit yeah but you know i'll actually kill you for this later and Solomon's like yeah that's cool and also imma use my powers to make you into the size of a barbie doll and lucifer's like what- MC then proceeds to lose their shit over a tiny blushing Lucifer. MC's test is to keep lucifer safe for 24 hours which would be fine if they you know didn't live with the other 5. which is actually what lucifer says when Beel says it'll be easy if they just stay at home cause home according to lucifer also contains his '5 greatest enemies'. MC's job is to protect Lucifer from them without using any commands on anyone other than beel, and the goal is for them to be able to fully command beel like they did with Asmo in S1 against Henry 1.0. Beel is not allowed to act on his own to protect lucifer and can only act on MC's commands. Beel agrees, Lucifer swears and Solomon asks MC about their confidence levels. MC can promise one of the three of them that they won't mess up. Solomon says he'll stay in the house with them so that he can judge and Lucifer's more or less like; you're having fun aren't you and solomon says Duh.

So they end up at the café where predictably Luke & Simeon end up screaming and laughing at a blushing pissed off mini Luci, Simeon tells him they physically cannot laugh cause of course big scary Lucifer is now in Simeon’s words ‘Teeny-Tiny” & how he’s so cute he wants to keep him in a jar as a pet (God I love this lesson). He says Michael would love to see this and when Lucifer yells at him he completely ignores him to poke his cheek (V Relatable). Luke also wants to join in on the fun but Lucifer is a little bitch to him and as retaliation for scaring their son MC pokes luci on the cheek too. Beel laments about wanting to poke luci on the cheek too and when Solomon tells the others to stop teasing lucifer, luci goes, EXCUSE ME WHOSE FUCKING FAULT IS THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Beel notes that luci now smells human. When luke asks about the smelling thing beel says that all 3 species? races? Smell different. Simeon marvels at how much humiliation PrideTM is willing to take cause he’s simping for MC. Luci tells them to shut tf up cause unless they come up with a plan to deal with his hell children they’re probably going to kill him the second he steps foot inside the house. Beel tells MC to use his powers. Luci says they should be able to draw out Beel’s powers like they did Asmo’s in S1. Solomon says since he gave them a power up in S1 simply saying the incantation won’t work this time around and they must first fully understand Beel and his nature to be able to do that. MC has a flashback to the Butcher and his relationship advice and then asks Beel what he thinks they should do to be able to better understand him (while I do think ideally this is the right choice, in context with the other two choices, to me, this is the ONLY choice cause the other two come off as slightly yandere on mc’s part). Beel chooses spending time together via sleepover. But obviously Luci will have to come along and Solomon invites himself along too cause he’s still the judge. Simeon’s sad about not being able to join in and luke is TOTALLY NOT JEALOUS OKAY!?!?

Outside the house Luci, Beel and MC all make pledges like they’re invading enemy territory; Lucifer: Swear you won’t let your guard down. Beel: Swear to protect Lucifer with your life. MC, 100% seriously: I Swear. Solomon: Are yall fucking serious??? These are your fucking brothers???? You practically raised them??? Lucifer: Have you ever actually met my brothers???? Beel: You legit think they won’t give up their lives just to fuck with lucifer for a day? When Solomon asks what lucifer ever did to make them hate him so much he says he doesn’t know. And look while “locking me up in the fucking attic for a whole year”, “not acknowledging that you’re actually my father and taking some fucking responsibility” and “blaming every minor inconvenience in your life on my very existence” are all very valid reasons none of them actually hate him right, cause I mean using every chance you get to fuck with your siblings is just part of being a sibling? Which is what Beel and MC both tell Lucifer. Lucifer doesn’t believe them and actually seems sad about it. Solomon said “while I do find the complicated interpersonal dynamics of your family fascinating” my ass is freezing out here. …Do you think they’re like solomon’s favourite show??? I mean Solomon’s old as shit and probably doesn’t remember what it’s like to have a family, and before MC, Simeon and the student exchange he didn’t really have anybody so do you think he just watches the brothers + MC like ‘damn, this shit is wild’????????????????? The instant they enter the house, someone casts a spell and they’re pulled into a portal. The fuck did you say about everyone loving Lucifer, says Solomon while making direct eye contact with Beel. They fall through endless darkness and MC tells them to chill cause it only feels like they’re falling. They end up in a weird ballroom/royal courtroom kinda place, which Solomon marvels. Beel & MC recognize the place as a location from one of levi’s games and meet Levi in his TSL clothes who welcomes MC as the ‘hero’.

Beel, Luci & Sol kinda just wordlessly stare at levi with tired expressions and MC being the bro they are plays along with levi by asking if he is who they think he is. He introduces himself as The Lord of Shadows, the ruler of all 7 lands. Lucifer: WTF. Beel says they don’t have time for games and Levi gets upset that they’re making him look pathetic. Levi gives MC their mission – to save the world by defeating the demon lord satan. Lucifer tells Solomon to get the fuck out of there. Solomon says he can’t considering he has no idea where the fuck they are in the first place. Beel politely asks ‘his majesty’ the way to pantry and Levi yells at them to take it seriously. Beel says well ok and explains the whole test thing to levi as a way to explain why they can’t play. Levi says satan already knows this. After that there’s a flash and black smoke starts curling up around the room and satan turns up in his demon form. And LOOK I hate satan’s demon form outfit but it actually looks really good in this context??? The feather boa and ribbon bow thing really works with the curling black smoke, evil demon lord look. It probably helps that you can’t see his bottom half. Anyway Satan turns out to just be a magical projection and he says, well you’ll have to come to me cause I kidnapped your boyfriend, while Diavolo calls out to Lucifer and MC from off screen. Diavolo had run away from the devildom to surprise the brothers. While Lucifer scolds Diavolo and while Diavolo apologizes, Satan tells they must all come to him along with the “obnoxious talking doll”. Lucifer: the fuck did you just say. Ok this part is really cute; Satan: “I’ll be seeing you MC.” Diavolo, still off screen: Can’t wait to see you MC! Luicfer has a migraine. When Beel tries to say they should head off, Levi tells them they forgot something in RPGs. MC, still dutifully in character, asks the lord of shadows to give them aid. Levi gives them 100 grimm and just anekfnsndfjn the fuck can they do with just 100 grimm. Which is what both Beel and Luci say. Solomon says, well maybe they’re just fucking poor around here so everything here is cheap. Levi gives them a talisman to protect themselves with, Lucifer says cool, but once this is over I’m gonna beat your ass :) Levi says he just bought a new game that lets you create your own story and he just wanted to play it with them :(

So they end up in a cute lil’ game village & beel wants to go to a tavern but lucifer says they need to buy equipment first. If MC asks a NPC they just repeat the same line about how great life is under levi’s rule over and over again, if they search in the grass they find some medicinal herbs but beel immediately eats them, if they break a barrel Solomon starts breaking open barrels too and they get yelled at by lucifer. They end up in No. 2’s armoury. Lucifer’s fed up with life. Solomon says the gear looks like shit and Beel says it makes sense since this is only the first town. When Beel tries to ask 2 for food he repeats his introductory dialogue over and over again. With the money they have they’re able to buy gear for Solomon and MC and the only thing that fits Lucifer is the fairy outfit,,,, I’m NOT fucking wearing that says lucifer off screen and God I love this lesson. Solomon and MC are both little shits and can you just imagine them trying to convince lucifer to wear it just to test it out? Fucking amazing. MC tries to haggle/talk with 2 so they could get armour for beel but he says buddy I’m running a business here BUT there’s a monster in the casino that cheats ppl of their mone– Lucifer & Beel simultaneously: Oh, Mammon. So basically, if they can get 2’s money back he’ll offer them a huge discount on the lord of flies armour. They decide to find an inn for the night before they face Mammon.

Lucifer finds it hard to eat food. Solomon: Cause you’re tiny ^.^ Beel: Wonder whose fault that is :I MC can either offer to cut it for him (He thanks MC and tells them to feed him too. Entitled Fuck. Solomon & Beel also want to be fed but Lucifer tells them to fuck off) or tell him to just open wide and take a bite (Lucifer says if he gets too close to the food Beel would probably accidentally eat him). Beel says the food is a lot like devildom food and MC asks him if he likes devildom food or human food, Beel says all food is good. Since they don’t have much money MC & beel and Solomon & Lucifer end up sharing beds with Lucifer telling Solomon to use a spell to keep himself still during the night to avoid accidentally killing lucifer in his sleep. There isn’t a spell for that. At night, Beel asks lucifer if he thinks Satan still hates him and gets “…” in response. Assuming Lucifer is asleep he asks MC what they think. MC says they think Satan just can’t admit that he likes Lucifer. Beel says if that’s what they think then it’s okay cause he just wants Satan to love lucifer like the rest of them do. MC asks Beel if he’s worried about lucifer (Beel says Lucifer wouldn’t want him to worry but… and that he wants to be there when lucifer needs help) or says that Beel really loves Lucifer (Beel happily agrees that he does). Beel then tells MC about how he and Lucifer first met: So back when Beel was an angel, according to him the only thing good about him was that he was strong so he decided to become a soldier except he couldn’t control his strength and always ended up breaking things which led to Raphael always saying something sarcastic to him. The whole thing was depressing for him until one day lucifer came over, sat beside him and talked with him. Lucifer was always really busy and spent most of his days deep inside the palace (places where Beel has never even been to before). He told beel that a soldier was not about attacking but instead about protecting, that protecting was what was most important. He’d told beel that he was special cause he had the power to protect everyone and keep them safe (this shit is the sweetest and it has me sobbing but also that must have hit like a bullet when Lilith died…). Lucifer had told Beel if he learnt to control his powers then Lucifer would recommend him as a Cherubim, gatekeeper. Lucifer had given Beel confidence and his post as a gatekeeper. Which is why Beel wants to protect him, cause he loves and respects Lucifer. He says all his brothers love Lucifer cause if they didn’t they never would have considered leaving the celestial realm. He says that even though Satan’s situation is different he isn’t the same as he was before MC came around and that Beel likes the new satan better. And that he actually likes all his brothers more since MC came around, which is why he likes MC so much too. MC gets to either kiss, hug or thank him. Beel says his powers are there so that he can protect both Lucifer and MC. And FUCK I love this backstory so much????? And I desperately need all the other backstories?

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sepublic · 4 years ago

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Starkiller Base was unnecessary

Re-watching The Force Awakens, and… It’s occurred to me that, even more than I initially thought, Starkiller Base is a genuinely useless, pointless part of the plot that’s just shoehorned in for the sake of arbitrarily raising the stakes, in a blind attempt to redo the Original Trilogy while one-upping it at the same time; Taking pot shots at the original Death Star’s ‘absurdity’ to try to make Starkiller Base’s destruction feel more ‘involved’ and ‘sensible’ with having an inside job to sabotage and blow up key components, yadda-yadda; Almost feels like the writers are punching down at the Original Trilogy in a vain attempt to look more clever and ‘self-aware’, without considering how reckless power-scaling doesn’t work (Which we see once more and somehow even worse in The Rise of Skywalker).

The thing about why the Death Star works is like… It’s relevant. It has build-up. We’re introduced to it from the start, the entire story revolves around destroying it; R2-D2 is important because he has plans to the Death Star, Vader is seen chasing Leia because she had those plans. It all comes around to and circles back to the Death Star, we have a sense of what it is from the start, there’s build-up. You NEED the planet-killing machine for the climax of A New Hope, because the only reason to go there is because, surprise- The Death Star IS there, it just arrived right besides Yavin IV!

But Starkiller Base… When you watch the movie, it just pops in out of nowhere, amidst the pre-established plot threads. Without any prior context or build-up, we’re just suddenly treated to a shot of this huge, mechanized planet, and then Hux almost casually drops that the ‘superweapon’ is ready, and then suddenly it’s firing and blows up the Hosnian System. The Death Star is justifiable because it’s the first of its kind, Starkiller Base is the third. In canon and Legends, there’s a lot of side-material going into the sheer enormity and horror of the Death Star, the amount of manpower it takes to construct such a thing, its formation is treated with gravitas; And yet something WAY bigger and more advanced comes out of nowhere, from a group even less powerful than the Empire?!

Again, you need the Death Star, it’s why the rebels are being chased, it’s why Leia was captured, it’s why R2-D2 meets Luke and then Obi-Wan, bringing up the Rebel journey; It’s why Luke’s aunt and uncle die, it’s why there’s no Alderaan and instead the Death Star itself to capture the protagonists when they arrive there. But Starkiller Base is pointless- The plot is about BB-8 because he has the map to Luke Skywalker, it’s about finding Luke through BB-8. Starkiller Base is just so casually dropped for something that should be so much bigger than the Death Star in the narrative… And likewise, we don’t need it for anything.

Is it to prove to Finn that the First Order is dangerous, that he can’t just ignore its destruction? The thing is, he already has Rey’s capture to motivate his participation. Starkiller Base could not fire, but Finn would still help the Resistance infiltrate, because Rey would still be captured. It’s not needed for Poe and the Resistance to arrive on Takodana, because they came for BB-8 after getting that message, the Hosnian Cataclysm totally unrelated. You could argue it gives the Resistance an excuse to fight back against the First Order in the film’s climax… But that does not justify creating another superweapon, much less one as implausible and redundant as Starkiller Base.

Like, maybe the writers wanted to REALLY return to the status quo, so having the New Republic be devastated was a requirement… But was it really? Just have the New Republic continue to be ineffectual, it’s even a plot-point in side material that its military is embarrassingly small; So just say the Resistance IS the full extent of that military! You still get an underdog situation. And again, if you really want to forcibly cut off any support for the Resistance… You don’t need a giant superweapon to one-up the Death Star. Just have the First Order demonstrate its traditional military power, by having a fleet invade the New Republic’s capital, unexpected, able to waltz in because everyone is so incompetently lax about these rising fascists; And with recent real-life events, it only makes more disturbing sense.

Instead of getting a pointless superweapon, have a bunch of Star Destroyers attack Hosnian Prime and take it over, show a montage of destruction and civilian death, etc. This still establishes the danger of the First Order and how it’s quickly decapitated the New Republic and left it in shambles, setting the stage for the underdog conflict; But you don’t have to rely on something as absurdly over-the-top as Starkiller Base, which has no build-up to its unprecedented firepower besides “Oh yeah this exists” and then watching it fire and finding out firsthand.

The death of trillions with the Hosnian System is senseless violence both in-universe and from a narrative, writing perspective… And again, this arguably establishes the First Order as a threat better, because they don’t need to rely on a superweapon; And even after The Force Awakens ends, the audience still knows that they have access to an entire fleet… Whereas with Starkiller Base, that threat is lost by the end of the film and thus made redundant. The scene could become even more disturbing if we straight-up see some civilians on Hosnian Prime welcome the First Order, adding additional world building that helps explain why the First Order was able to develop, how it got support- And again, being topical to what happens today. It connects with canon lore about the First Order’s supporters in other worlds (such as Coruscant), and could even be a callback to liberty dying with thunderous applause in Revenge of the Sith! We could still have the people on Takodana react in horror, through the Holonet’s broadcasting of the coup.

Of course, this is Star Wars- And what’s more iconic than thrilling space battles and trench runs? Sometimes you want sci-fi fun and stuff for the sake of it, nothing wrong with that, that’s always important too… But again, you don’t need a giant super-laser to have that. Just make up something else; Like Starkiller Base is the planet that the First Order has taken over. Perhaps they intend to launch a bunch of new Star Destroyers, or are about to finish production of a whole new batch, which would make things even worse. Instead of destroying a superweapon, you could have the Resistance crippling the factories that finish these Star Destroyers- There’s your trench run! Have them blow up a power plant that’s running the factories, instead of a thermal oscillator. There’s still a victory at the end, and while the threat is far from over, time has been bought- And it makes the First Order’s immediate retaliation in the next film more sensible, adds to the idea that every second, every bit of progress helps, you gotta take what you need… Even an extra day to prepare and evacuate is a miracle that furthers the underdog motif.

Plus, with a batch of Star Destroyers that need to be stopped- There’s still the need to rescue Rey. The Resistance still needs to cause damage at the First Order’s base, and Finn is still needed to infiltrate and lower the shields, while taking advantage of this operation for himself and Rey. Most importantly, you don’t get a contrived superweapon that only adds to the bland, carbon-copy standard of the Sequel Trilogy; And perhaps best of all, we don’t have to see Ilum retroactively bastardized and destroyed, with Starkiller Base’s identity revealed AFTER we see it get blown up… The legacy of the Jedi and its history is not further destroyed with the loss of this sacred planet of kyber crystals.

And that’s better, because this trilogy about passing the torch, seems as insistent as Kyle Ron, the villain, on interpreting this theme as utterly wiping out all traces of the past, and leaving nothing for the next generation to work with. Which, I’m not surprised at a corporation thoughtlessly razing and salting the earth in selfish disregard for those who will need and use it afterwards, but still. And while a star that burns brighter than most thanks to its heart of Kyber IS a neat concept that could be worked with, especially with what Chirrut Imwe says, in addition to the motifs of flames of rebirth and the Phoenix… It’s not something that justifies the further eradication of Jedi history and effort on a level that even the Empire didn’t go, just to arbitrarily raise stakes with yet another uninspired superweapon.

Like, the Duel of the Fates script and its concept of a device that blocks off all inter-galactic communication is MUCH more interesting, clever, and innovative than the Death Star Lite, and it hits closer to home in this age of internet and mass communication; In contrast to the Death Star, which fit more in its time as a criticism of the stockpiling and development of nukes, and how that tapped into the public’s fear at the time of nuclear Armageddon. And a device blocking off intergalactic communication provides good reason for why the Resistance doesn’t have the full might of the New Republic behind them, because they can’t even communicate to collaborate, and it adds to that idea of people made to feel ‘alone’ or whatever and thus isolated, so they can’t band together and rise up. That adds to Rey feeling alone, and makes Poe and Zorii’s discussion at the end of the trilogy that much more meaningful… Not that the Sequel Trilogy was planned to consider the latter, of course.

(Actually, I wonder if it’s possible to cut Starkiller Base’s superweapon scenes from the film. Like a cut where any references to its superweapon, and the scene where it fires, is cut out; I think the film might still work that way.)

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well-shit-im-a-morosexual-now · 3 years ago

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AAhh I really like 45 it pushed the story along while also being just hilarious and touching and it was just so good!! 46 was just pokemon battles...

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cornerstorebitch · 3 years ago

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(previous ethics asker) good argument -- there is a difference between forced interventions and artificially limited options. (i wonder if the new abortion law doesn't blur that difference though, or somehow render it less relevant. abortion is still a medical intervention and pregnancy is not, but it's different when extra steps are taken to prevent people handling a pregnancy themselves with ecbolic teas or coat hangers. doesn't that mean, despite it not being an intervention, for anyone not prepared to live outside the law it will just as surely force a medical decision? it's categoriclly similar to the vaccine mandate; you don't have to get the vaccine technically but people need their jobs the way they need not to have the law breathing down their necks. anyway i'm with you 100% as far as inalienable rights, right to choose what happens with your own body should fall near the top of the list (privacy is the only thing which might come above it, but that's relevant to the vaccine mandate too. online charting has somehow created the concept that others' medical trends are anyone's business. people are spreading contagions every day. and when has the cdc ever kept a named national registry instead of anonymous incidence logs? there is actually no need for a competent doctor to identify a patient before treating them.)

what you've said is right (kevorkian mentioned that pressured euthanasia is simply murder) -- but i was thinking more along the lines of, doctors are not very good at their jobs since their medical knowledge is often lacking; it's also kind of a privilege to be in a position to help others; if they can't think creatively and compensate for lack of patient knowledge by clarifying, they're not fit for the field. but my mind wandered saying that; it has nothing to do with legal issues, unless what passes culturally eventually dictates what's acceptable in terms of policy, which means the system is broken anyway

"If there's a legal precedent to be cited here (which there is, but thats a different lengthy paragraph)" -- will you say more about this? please and thank you. your mind remains sharp as always and it's delightful to read what youve written

yeah i think the primary difference between SB8 and the vaccine mandate is that people are by and large choosing to comply with SB8. obviously the law exists and some people want to sue but i think the chances of anybody actually forking over 10k+ to the courts or losing their livelihood is... unlikely. maybe that sounds dismissive. but there are a hell of a lot of people seeking abortions in the state of texas so it seems patently absurd to me that abortion providers immediately tucked tail instead of deciding they couldnt catch everyone. the vaccine mandate already has caused people to lose their jobs, will continue to do so, and will probably make anyone who does not wish to be vaccinated virtually unemployable if things go like theyre looking. and it's going to be a LOT harder to fight legally than SB8 because the vaccine mandate has legal precedent supporting it and SB8 does not. the vaccine mandate is also dramatically less legally clear cut than SB8 is, which inarguably creates an unjust obstacle to accessing abortion which is considered a protected right by the supreme court.

i do agree about doctors and the medical industry. ive said this before but doctors are generally competent in the same way mechanics are generally competent. does a doctor probably know more than i do about whatever random medical issue is being discussed and have a much larger knowledge pool to pull from in general? yeah. are they after your money? also yes. are they infallible? absolutely not. but most people don't know enough about cars or medicine to argue

the strongest argument supporting the vaccine mandates is simply the fact that public schools and universities already require certain vaccines to attend. consequently, i would say it's hard to argue against requiring covid vaccinations in analogous contexts. that said, the primary reason why we require vaccines in public schools is because a room full of snotty children who don't cover their mouths in close contact is a lot more likely to spread, idk, whooping cough, than a bunch of adults working in a hospital. and that argument only applies to places that receive funding from the government, not private businesses (which iirc are not currently required to comply) which does probably include most healthcare facilities. i can't remember if HPV shots are required in schools but i would say thats a heavy argument on either side bc the HPV shots were similarly new when they began to encourage them for teenagers. anyway thats a lot of circular talking to say that the vaccine mandate does in my opinion exist in a rather large legal grey area with... related but not really directly comparable legal precedents at play as well as highly vague and highly contested constitutional arguments regarding privacy and personal liberties

thank u for the kind words

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timextoxhajima · 4 years ago

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hihi! i was scrolling through your blog to read your fics and look at your other posts when i came across that ask where an anon did an analysis of your fic hostis. i’m just asking out of genuine curiosity (i hope this doesn’t come across offensive in any way but this has baffled me for quite some time!!), but how exactly should readers interact with fanfics?

probably every other month i’ll see a post by different writers about the lack of interaction from readers which really frustrates them (which i understand!) and they usually say that it doesn’t take that long to like, reblog, give a comment etc. i’m more of the passive type so i will like the fic post or share them with friends who like the same groups to read. i don’t usually comment, but i see people who do leave comments and hype up other writers who are their mutuals/friends. these comments are always positive and encouraging, but do writers ever want constructive criticism like what that anon commented? i mean it’s not like school or uni where you submit work to be marked, but when writers ask for interaction do they only want the positive, hype-me-up kind of comment? sometimes when i read a fic and i think “oh, maybe it could’ve been better if they developed this a bit more” or “it feels like it’s lacking a bit” or something like that, i just move on from it and read other fics. but for these writers who want interaction from their readers, would they actually want readers to voice out thoughts like this?

sorry for the long post ahaha i’ve just been wondering about this for a long long time and reading that anon’s detailed analysis and breakdown about what they thought could be improved really got me thinking about this as a long time fic reader. thank you ^^

HIHI no worries abt it being offensive or whatsoever!! You brought up quite a few points in this so bear with me yeah?

How should readers interact with fics?

Firstly, i'd like to put out a disclaimer that some writers might not agree with. The fact that writers post their work on an online platform accessible to everybody means that it will always be open to criticism, whether they like it or not. No, i'm not saying that it's okay to be rude or trash someone's work, i'm saying it in the context that readers will always be allowed to provide feedback/reactions. If you put a product out on a shelf for sale, you can't stop a customer from complaining about it if they purchase it and, in their opinion, finds it defective or inadequate.

You cannot stop a reader from having opinions.

It's the same for movies, music, choreography.

Secondly, however the reader wants to react (be it passive or active) is completely up to you! Personally, as long as i know someone's following my work, even if it's just 1 person, i'll be happy. My work isn't FAMOUS per se and it's just an outlet for me to vent or relax. Of course there'll be writers who want people to provide constructive feedback, and that's fine. Writers who actually want the constructive feedback WILL take it, i promise you. It will stick, even if they don't act on it, and if they agree with it, they will change according to the feedback. After i got that super long analysis from hostis, i started breaking up my sentences, especially in grounded. I started making sure my sentences were shorter, easier to understand. Might not have been 100% what the anon told me to improve on, but it stuck. For me, i write in school and it's being graded. Thus, writing here is in fact, a platform for me to practise. So of course, (though i admit i get salty sometimes when people tell me otherwise) i try to improve whenever people tell me there is something for me to improve on. It's normal human nature to feel angry or upset when people give CONSTRUCTIVE feedback bec sometimes it does feel like it's going against you.

Writers who want to improve will always appreciate constructive feedback, even if they feel salty or dissatisfied with it.

Of course, sometimes constructive feedback comes in the idea of questions. Whenever i write, i ask myself like- why does this character act like this or why did this happen- in case a reader has questions about maybe something lacking etc. (Also honestly because sometimes fanfiction is meant to cater to only the main characters, and side characters just aren't needed to be fully developed.)

Sometimes, the writers have their reasons for not developing a certain part of the story, a character, or simply- they didn't think about it, and that's fine. That's where they get to think about it too.

I always thought it was fun to discuss a story's plot with the writer, same way some people are super into trivia or like, backstories. It's like bonus features when you watch a director's cut of a film or like an easter egg, which you'll only realise when the director/writer himself shares it with you.

A writer will always be more than happy to discuss their story with you, whether or not the points of discussion are similar or different.

Keeping in mind, writers on this platform come from different countries, this means different styles of learning. Styles of writing differs from person to person. V, who wrote 17.5 of hostis, is also singaporean but her writing style is more poetic than mine. The anon who gave me that super long feedback on my writing with longass sentences and expression errors is a law student (who, i assume are more accustomed to writing short, accurate, and MUST BE grammatically correct sentences). Which is totally fine!

What you may perceive from reading a sentence may be different from what someone else perceives. When i write, i NEED to see the scenes in my head first because i'm a more visual person and i do videography and film production in school, so if i dont see it, i can't write it. sometimes it backfires and i end up stuffing like 2894 details into 1 sentence, killing the grammar and expression, which is what that anon pointed out to me.

Perception varies, so learn to understand that what the writer writes could be because they simply have trouble expressing what they see/visualise.

And that's fine. Nobody is ever perfect with writing, nobody's gna ever develop all their characters well enough to the readers' liking. If a story had 8 characters and each character had a fan, BUT the plot is meant to only focus on 3, then you cannot expect the writer to develop the other 5 just because their fans want them too. It's just not plausible, especially if the plot revolves around the 3.

Wow this was super long, i hope this gave you some valuable insight as to how a reader can interact with a writer. There's definitely no harm as to giving the writer feedback, even if its bad! Phrase it nicely of course - trashing the writer's work definitely isn't going to do anybody good. Writer's probably gna hate the reader while she/he feels shitty abt themselves and the reader doesn't gain anything in return.

THANK YOU for bothering to send this in!!! I absolutely LOVED talking about this because ive always thought that readers just wanted some fanfiction to read but now youve proven me wrong and i definitely do believe some readers look much deeper into a plot or a piece of work than just smut and fluff.

🥺💕 thanks loveee

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childotkw · 4 years ago

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I’m copy pasting this from “i belong to you/ you belong to me”

Ive been binge reading the fic hehe

What I’d really like to see is the Slytherin squad reacting to Harry’s wards in his room and also Harry maybe playing quidditch (if that is something 4th years did then), also did the concept of familiars come later? Why doesn’t Harry have one?

Furthermore I think Harry could salvage his odd behaviour with the ghosts by bringing up the girl, telling the headmaster about her and if he’s convincing enough trading his secret with Orion for more information. If they think he’s had a ghost follow him I’d be much more plausible than being a whole nother person

If he went “yeah this ghost I talked about followed me to the hospital wing and tried to kill me and the professor probably saw her bloody face and freaked out and she’s a shade” would throw off some suspicion. Especially if the Baron visited him later and confirmed that she was a shade.

In addition, his sudden knowledge could easily be explained away with reading much more. He’s been sneaking off to the library so many times all he’d have to do is let one of the snake squad tail him and pick out some books related to his classes.

Also also, the sudden ability in raising shields could also be explained away with supposed paranoia from the r*pe and attempted s*cide, I mean who wouldn’t buy that an attacked student might want to learn protective charms?

Ah but Harry’s got such a temper on him I don’t think he’d go for any of these solutions if his idea is to get away and return to his old life! I love how he’s throwing these rich snobs off their game tho lmao Malfoy’s reaction was hilarious!

Love the world building btw! If Harry suddenly got a reputation for speaking to centaurs (and maybe even merpeople hehe) I’d be pretty funny if the snake squad finds him chilling with them

He really should play the whole “ive been reading about this” card way more tho lol

Love Orion as a character also, and I’ve been wondering if Hagrid might show up eventually? Harry deserves at least one friend that won’t try to backstab him T-T

Firstly, I’m glad you enjoyed the story. A lot of the things you bring up probably won’t make it into ybtm, purely because in the next two chapters things are pretty much going to explode in terms of events, and the plot line will start veering greatly. So because things like quidditch and Nathan’s familiar aren’t important to the plot I haven’t bothered including them.

As for explaining his increase in knowledge away, Harry’s only really been at Hogwarts for a week, and he only woke about a week before he got to Hogwarts. That’s not enough time to justify the incredible leap in his abilities. Sure, a few things could be explained by reading, but knowing the theory and being able to implement spells are completely different things. If it had been a month, maybe, but not a week.

With the ghost situation, admitting to anything would bring a truly unwelcome amount of attention onto him. Even if he got the Baron explaining the difference between ghosts and shades, it would still beg the question why she attacked Nathan. There is, technically, nothing special about Nathan - so why would this shade, who no one had ever seen before or knew existed, suddenly decide to follow him and hurt him? How was he able to see her when no one can? How could she touch him when she couldn’t touch anyone else? In Harry’s eyes, it’s not worth providing any context. He’s too much of a paranoid bastard to try 😂

But beyond that, I’m happy you’ve liked what I’ve done so far with the world building and whatnot. Hagrid may or may not be included at a later date 💕

#anonymous #ybtm(ibty)

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jasperlion · 6 years ago

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Peace and War — very much based on dialogue/meta

Alm has an interesting view upon war, peace and all of their portents, although most is likely based on how Mycen raised him, more of soldier and leader (empathically/charismatically/but specifically a military one, being a general himself before his discharge) than anything else.

Of the following conversation I’ll highlight the important points on this, since I don’t want to lose the context of said conversation for the sake of what I want to talk about (since it’s important to the topic, too).

Alm: Look, I’ve heard from the others. I know the drought’s made Zofia a scary place. People are starving, and many have turned to thievery and plunder. Brigands loot villages for a mere sack of grain, and soon they’ll be at OUR door! And don’t think I haven’t heard what the Rigelian army has been up to. They’ve been crossing the border for years in violation of the Divine Accord. And with that sacred bond broken, now the Terrors have resurfaced as well… Mycen: …All true. Alm: Zofia is full of innocent people who are looking for help. Please, Grandfather. I want to make a difference in a world bigger than a handful of houses. I want to see all the amazing places you’ve told me about— that Celica told me about! Mycen: Suppose you do set forth with your sword and your wits. So what? Alm: …… Mycen: Will the grand story of your life be how you met the end of a brigand’s axe? Before you dream of changing the world, learn your damned place in it. And no more talk of leaving. -Mycen leaves- Alm: …What’s his problem?! Why teach me to use a sword if you’re not going to let me fight? Every day in this place is exactly the same as the next. I know I’m meant for more than this! But you have to let me find it!

Alm: Lukas! Were you able to speak with my grandfather? What did he say? Lukas: He said no. Sir Mycen made it clear he has no intention of joining the Deliverance. Alm: What? But he’s ridiculously strong! He could defeat some stuffy chancellor with his eyes closed! Why would he refuse when so many people are suffering? Lukas: I cannot speak to Sir Mycen’s thinking, but it seems we misplaced our hopes. I’ll have to return to our hideout and bring Sir Clive the ill news. Perhaps Mycen has simply grown too old for the battlefield.

Alm: I’m just saying we could do it together. …Fighting, I mean. Not the lance. Grandfather trained all of us, right? Not just me. You already know how to use a sword and a bow. So what’s the problem?

Alm: What? They’ve taken a prisoner?! Lukas: Alm? Let’s just be calm and… Alm?! Alm, wait, don’t — Alm: Hold it, you lecherous pigs! Brigand: Huh? Who the hell are you? Alm: Release the woman you’re holding at once, or else

Battle has always been a solution for Alm, but not in the way of savagery or wanting to subjugate, as much as it is to defend. All of his focus on the problems are what he can stop with his physical strength to protect innocents who are suffering. He is not beyond killing those who attack others to meet his goals, but he’s also not beyond parley and seeking from his opponents a more peaceful solution (provided they aren’t already doing something dastardly, like looting, attacking people, kidnapping them, etc). All in all, those are the views of someone growing up under a general, views necessary for someone whom his father and surrogate grandfather both intended to go to war in the first place and fight.

Even so, despite his willingness to draw the blade, he’s not willing to kill on sight (usually) unless weapons are already drawn. He’s rather compassionate to a fault, which stops him from attacking others without question even when he jumps to the wrong conclusion, not unless he has seen them do shit with his own two eyes (that’s pretty much how you strike the match to his temper and killing intent fhkJDKHD).

Alm: Don’t blame yourself, Lukas. Sir Clive sent you to Ram Village. right? You didn’t have a choice. If blame lies with anyone, it’s him. Lukas: …… Alm: Regardless, standing here accomplishes nothing. We need a plan. I assume this Clair person is still alive, right? In that case, we just have to take back the Southern Outpost and save her!

Really, his solutions always involve getting in a scuffle to save someone when he knows they were both wronged and are in trouble. And he jumps to conclusions and is quick to pin blame.

Of note is that instead of ordering a chase of Desaix and the Rigelian detachment with him, he instead decides to stay within the castle. He does this again after Berkut’s mirror smash, ordering his men rest instead of give chase to the fleeing Rigelians. Alm may be focused on battle as a means to an end, but he’s not at all for eliminating all who stood in his path or destroying them. (Gaiden Alm would say different here, lfmao)

It can be a little confusing when Alm has always been about compromise when there’s a misunderstanding — surely the whole thing makes him butt heads with himself... and it does! His argument with Celica is one of the biggest demonstrations of this, but there’s another thing I want to touch first.

Silque: Sir Alm, what did you see? Alm: It was… It was so clear! Silque, it was horrible! Silque: Be calm. What you saw in the vision is not the present. The Mother is either telling you what could be…or what once was. Her power is sight. Alm: So the vision is something that’s going to happen? Silque: Something that COULD happen. If the vision was ill-boding, perhaps it was a sign— a sign that the Mother wishes for you to take action in order to prevent it. Alm: ……

Alm’s reasons to continue pressing forward with the war despite Celica’s pleas is both his will to make a difference and the fact that he was called to do it. Mila sent him a vision that if things continue and he does nothing, all of Zofia will die. Her vision sets him directly at odds with Celica, who recieves one that should Alm continue on his path, he will die (and everyone he loves will die on his way to get there).

They are directly contrasting visions, albeit Celica’s was likely a warning to get her off the island before the Cantor arrived and likely killed everyone at the priory (you know the one, the one on the lonely boat who implies he was on his way for her). Anyway, this isn’t about that, so fast forward to the argument itself with this in mind: His feeling of duty to see the war through was to save lives, but his focus was not to invade Rigel, merely push them all the way back.

Alm: …Wow. That’s quite the story. I’m trying to picture you swashbuckling pirates, and… Yeah. Just…wow. Celica: I didn’t mean to swashbuckle anyone. It just sort of…happened. But forget all that for the moment. Alm, you aren’t REALLY planning to fight the Rigelian Empire, are you? Alm: Listen, it’s not… It’s not something I chose. They were the ones who attacked us. Celica: But there must be a way to resolve things other than bloodshed, no? Alm: That’s a pretty thought, Celica, but I’m not sure it’s true. If it were, no one would be risking life and limb on the battlefield. Celica: Is it really so naive? Zofians and Rigelians are both people of Valentia, are we not? I know we can reach some kind of accord if we just try! Besides that, I… I just can’t imagine Emperor Rudolf is the monster some claim him to be. Alm: It doesn’t matter what sort of man he is. The Rigelian Empire chose to cross Zofia’s border—that’s a fact. We aim to drive back the invaders. Nothing more. Celica: But why do YOU have to lead this rebellion? Mycen’s grandson or no, you’re neither knight nor noble. So why make yourself a target like this?! Alm: Nrgh… If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear I was speaking to a blue blood. My station doesn’t matter, Celica. I’m here because I was called. I have a duty to perform, and I’ll perform it. No more, and no less. Celica: Oh, Alm… Alm: Do you think I WANTED this fight? This all started because Lima IV went and angered the empire. If you wish to point fingers, point them at the ruler who failed his people. It’s his fault we’re in this mess. Celica: That’s not… Well, so what if it is? Maybe you should go become king if it’s such a damnably easy job! Alm: What? Celica, that’s not— Celica: You’re awfully free with accusations for a boy with no idea what royalty entails! And now that you’re a “hero,” I imagine the throne is next on the list, is that it? Alm: No, it’s not like that at all, Celica! I just want to keep Zofia SAFE! Besides, there’s an heir. A princess of the royal family may have survived. If she turned up and fixed all this, I’d happily return to Ram. You could…come with me, you know? It’d be like old times.

Hoooo, other than Alm and Celica here fanning flames (flames Alm didn’t even know existed, and flames Celica did not realize were alight at all due to Alm’s previous confrontations with nobles (notably Fernand)) this shows a lot of Alm’s thinking.

While he’s very gung ho and willing to fight for a cause, and even kill for it, he’s not alright with it having to be the solution (even if he’s okay with using it as a solution). Basically, it’s the only way he knows he can help with the problem, and he is fine with doing it, but he’s not fine with having to do it. If there are other options, he’d take them. That’s the biggest takeaway, really, since he doesn’t just speak those thoughts, but acts upon them. Jumping right to the start of Act 4 now...

Alm: …… Clive: A word, Alm? Alm: Clive! Did we receive a reply to our petition? Clive: Unfortunately, no. The empire’s silence is likely its answer. I believe it wise to resign ourselves. Emperor Rudolf has no intention of treating for peace. He means to continue his march on Zofian soil. Alm: Damn… Clive: Our men are approaching their limit. And Rigel’s climate is far colder than what they knew in Zofia. Further delaying here will only sap their strength and morale. Alm: All right, Clive. I trust your judgment. Let’s get ready to march. Clive: Understood. I’ll pass word to the others and prepare them to cross into the empire. Alm: …… What’s all of this leading to?

Alm has legitimately sent a petition to Rudolf to stop his march into Zofian soil. As per his word, his aim was merely to drive back the invasion, then request that the Rigelian’s cease trying again. His attempts for peace, or at least a meeting for parley, are met with silence, and yet he waits until Wyrmstym/Winter before finally heeding Clive’s advice and engaging in a march. Who knows how long he had between Pegastym//Autumn and Wyrmstym to wait, but it’s implied it’s been long enough for a courrier to make it to the Empire’s capital, wait for political deliberation and receive a response, and then some.

And most importantly...

Alm: Listen, Celica. I know you sacrificed your own life to protect me and the others. But I never wanted that. I couldn’t ever be happy in a world you died to create! Celica: Oh, Alm… I’m sorry. I’m so, so sorry. Alm: Don’t apologize. Just know that I need you, all right? Without your wisdom, all I know how to do is fight whatever’s in front of me. So please… Will you fight with me? Believe in me. Believe in US. Believe in our combined strength!

Alm is very much aware that his skills lie in battle to resolve a conflict or problem, and as much as he has stated to dislike meaningless fights or struggles that can be avoided (as noted by his attempt to speak to some enemies (like witches) to try and dissuade them from attacking, or willingness to listen to Tatiana and thus speak to Zeke at the start of the fight with Jerome), and has even been noted to be a compassionate/kind leader (your choices as the player aside if you decide to kill everyone on ‘defeat boss’ missions lfmao), enough that Rigelians know this already and Rudolf can positively affirm it.

It makes him a mixed bag of emotions for this reason, because he feels terrible about what he’s good at doing, but he feels its the only way he can help.

Anyway, this was too long a post to just say that, but it’s what it is at its core. Alm is down to fight, especially if it’s someone he sees doing something vile, but as a means to an end he feels if it’s unnecessary it should be avoided (even if he feels its the only skill he has, even if it’s not particularly true). This compassionate side of him does not show at all when he feels it’s someone who deserves it, however (like Slayde and Desaix), which is probably something considered a flaw by some, maybe a dangerous one in a leader. It’s kind of fortunate that he has a well-maintained moral compass, I suppose, because this kind of thinking could lead straight to hell otherwise.

#long post #by his own loving heart | headcanon #[ meta ]

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rollercoasterwords · 2 years ago

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ok i have even more thoughts bc i literally think we agree lmao

so to what you're saying about art not being created just for the creator + part of the process of making art being that connection it brings to other people -- yeah! i agree with that!

maybe i should have expanded a little more in the original post, but like:

what i'm getting at here is that having other people engage w ur fanfiction is a big part of writing fanfiction and one of the things that's so cool about it! it's just that that starting point of even wanting to write fanfiction in the first place, in my mind, should ideally be coming from a place of having a story that you, personally, want to see in the world. like, if you're writing a story only because you think other people will see it and not because you personally care about that story, i don't think it will bring you much joy.

and like--that's another thing i wanna clarify, bc ive woken up to some other people (not so much this post) building strawmen out of misinterpretations of my words just to tear them down. when i'm talking about the motivations behind why we create art, i am not making any conclusions about the quality of the art. i'm not saying if you write solely or primarily for an audience that your art will be worse, or cheapened, or "not real art." the only thing i am commenting on here is the impact that will have on you, as the artist. the ultimate conclusion i am making is that if you create art solely or primarily for an audience, i do not think it will bring you long-term joy.

when you say wanting people to view your art is not inherently capitalist-- yes, i agree with that! i say right here:

so like, what i'm trying to make clear here--what i view as an issue is when your primary motivation is validation in the form of numbers, ie getting as many likes/kudos/hits/followers/views as possible. based on what ur saying, i think this is something we agree on? like, this mindset is a negative byproduct of capitalism that we are all being slowly conditioned to internalize.

like, i understand what you're saying when you say that audience and community should be the same thing in this space. i think it's just that we're defining audience differently here. i'm using the term specifically to differentiate from community--and like, maybe i should try to find a different word to make this clearer, but in the context of my post, this is what i mean:

audience: impersonal, vast, separate from the creator. the creator makes Content and the audience Consumes it in the form of just clicking a button and moving on, always hungry for the next piece of content. the creator is placed on a pedastal of Content Provider and ridiculed if they don't fulfill the role adequately

community: personal, oftentimes smaller, rooted in connection. people who comment or take time to let writers know they've connected with their work. numbers aren't the focus here; connection is

and like. i think in the context of most fanfiction, your audience (as in, the people reading your work) ARE your community, so i get how me separating the two terms could get lost in translation. but that difference in interaction is what i'm trying to draw out, and audience felt like the language often used for things like influencers or celebrities, which is why i separated it and used it as a term in opposition to community. but like....in terms of how i'm defining things, all the things you're saying about audience sound to me like seeking community, and i agree that that's a fundamental part of fanfiction!

at the end of the day, the main point i was trying to make with my post was just this:

if your primary motivation in creating art is just to get as many eyes on it as possible, the creation of that art will probably not bring you long-term joy.

so....i think we agree? but yeah might need to clarify my language a little more lol. maybe i should replace "audience" with consumers? audience as consumers vs audience as community....i feel like that makes sense.

anyway hope this was clear! love the discussion ty for sharing ur thoughts <3

your fanfic doesn't need to be Content

ok so thanks to this lovely anonymous message i've been motivated to organize my thoughts on the increasingly common phenomenon of fanfic writers treating their own fics like Content for consumption, the way an influencer on social media might (all of this is in the context of the marauders fandom specifically -- no idea how or whether it might apply elsewhere)

what i mean by that is, essentially, instances of fanfic writers playing into the idea that fanfiction is a product created for the consumption of readers (and thereby the idea that fandom is a community that can be clearly divided between "producers"/writers and "consumers"/readers).

some examples i've seen: people "advertising" their fics on platforms like tiktok, sometimes even before they've started writing said fic ("hey guys i'm going to start writing a fic with x y z who's interested??"), or making posts asking outright "if i wrote a fic with x y z would people read it??" i've also seen people share concerns that if they write a certain thing they want to write (i.e, heavy smut, heavy angst, etc) then it will make their fic less "accessible" to a broader audience ("i want everyone to be able to enjoy my fics!")

another recent example that comes to mind is the "jegulus strike." while i'm sure it was largely well-intentioned, a strike is a form of protest tied inextricably to a consumer economy, and positioning writers as laborers who are standing in opposition to readers demanding that labor reinforces the framework of a consumer economy in which fanfiction is a product for consumption.

something i want to make clear here--i'm not saying that any of these behaviors are like....Moral Failings deserving of Ridicule. i think we are all very much conditioned by late-stage capitalism + algorithmic social media to view everything, even our hobbies, within the framework of a consumer economy. this is just me observing some of the ways i see that mindset creeping into fandom spaces.

like. i think there's this unspoken assumption that art is only worthwhile if it has an audience; that creative pursuits only matter if you can profit from them. if people are applying this mindset to fanfiction, then it makes sense to see this impulse to advertise fics the way authors advertise their books on tiktok, or twitter, or whatever. it makes sense for writers to become preoccupied with audience perception, perhaps changing their stories to make them more palatable for a certain audience or even going into the writing process with the audience already in mind--an overhanging and ever-present anxiety, asking yourself "how will this be received?"

the problem is that fanfiction doesn't fit into this model. it has always been meant for a niche audience, never the mainstream, and it has always existed outside the profit economy. trying to turn fanfiction into broadly consumable content is antithetical to the medium itself, and, in all likelihood, will fail. the vast majority of fanfiction is never going to be read by hundreds of thousands of people. if you go into writing it with an audience as your end goal, you will likely be disappointed.

what makes fanfiction so wonderful and unique is that it is meant to be written, first and foremost, for the writer. fanfiction as a medium grew out of personal joy in creation, out of individuals who thought "I want to see this story for myself" and then wrote it. because fanfiction is specific, catered to individual tastes and niche audiences, it lends itself to a unique sort of community in which your work attracts other people with that same niche taste, making it easier to strike up a conversation or start a friendship by saying, "hey, i love this story you wrote for yourself! it just so happens to be the exact sort of thing i wanted to read."

so i guess at the end of the day, my question for other fic writers is: if nobody was ever going to read this, would you still want to write it?

and if the answer is no...i think that's something that calls for reflection! where is your motivation rooted? is it rooted in a desire to create, in the joy of creation? or is it rooted in a desire to be seen, to be validated? wanting to be seen and validated is entirely natural, and it is by no means a bad thing. oftentimes, both these impulses--creation and validation--will be part of the decision to write + post a fic. but if validation is your primary motivation, and if you have internalized the idea that validation means getting as many people as possible to look at the thing you're making and click a heart button, then you will probably end up disappointed. you will probably end up feeling like your writing isn't good enough, no matter how many people end up reading it--because no audience will ever be big enough to validate you if you aren't able to take pride in your creation independent of any metrics of consumption.

i'm not saying that you should never share your fics on social media. like i mentioned above, community is one of the best parts of fanfiction--but are you posting in search of community? or are you posting in search of an audience? i know the line can get blurry sometimes, but i do think those two things look different, and i do think it is productive to look inwards and ask what you are truly seeking when you throw your writing into the void of social media posts. and i think as writers it's important not to fall into the trap of acting like our fics are a product intended for audience consumption, because to do so contributes to the deterioration of a fandom culture that is separate from the profit economy. plus, i just think all of us would be happier if we started trying to actively unlearn the idea that art is only worthwhile if it manages to amass a huge audience.

#ranting and raving #txt

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3rdyearstuff · 4 years ago

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Transcription - Crit Week 10

Pollution vibes, one balloon adds up to the ocean, looks like water

Looks like a chair, a throne, symbolic connection with the long string to the balloon

Carrying this huge body of mass, us trying to fix the problem, something as large as the problem as that, materials that you would use once and throw away,

Guest: Aquatic or tragic commentary on environment or oceans balance or weight, absurdity

Of the single balloon, carrying a burden, balloon in the art context has a tension

May pop at anytime, fragile, a lot of elements that you wouldn’t want to see in landfill or ocean, aquatic element because of , jellyfish like tendrils or bubbles airbubbles or something, element of capture, sneared in something related to where we are headed to environmentally, environmental commentary

The grey tones bluey grey brings forward negative conitations versus if it was a delicate light blue you’d see on the oceans, contrast to balloon to the celebatory … people release balloons and they end up in the ocean,

Did you use the floor paint? Me: Yip.

My question is if this about pollution, what are you going to do with it afterwards? Me: its not about pollution

Guest: there is a clear lack of natural materials, very synthetic, the string for the balloon could have easily been the natural element maybe hemp rope

Raul: In terms of the sculpture its not hiding the way its being made its not concealing the ways its been constructed and its not creating a heirachy of the materials – normally you use chiken wire and then plaster and then that just becomes the structural material and it is the secondhand material and in heirachy would not be the most important one where as here all of these materials are coming together equally, one is not privileged over another, also you are using a lot of everyday materials within the scultpture ehich makes it feels like its happened almost immediately with this construction of materials.

Is there a title?

Me: Imagining whenua

The bubble stuff reminds me of the stuff you put over tables for a kids birthday party and the balloon adds to that. It has a sort of veil like quality

Raul: Does it have like the structure of an alter? Like an offering, does it feel like that?

Kind of like the game of thrones, because of the cavity. Maybe like a nursery crib like the covering. If its meant to be a chair or a throne then there is a paradie to it

I wouldn’t say parady, I think with the title it definitely more like connectivity…

Me: I did wonder whether people thought this was some kind of potty

Its definitely set like, small set like, it’s the size of someones head so it could be like a place to rest your head,

Raul: do you want to tell us a little bit about whenua?

Me: So I’ve been working with some ideas, so this (sculpture( is a new thing, and I’m moving along a path, and the next thing might be a painting and not this, I was adopted at birth between two iwi but at a time of nz law called closed stranger adoption or complete break law so that meant that both families didn’t know anything about where the child went or where the child came from so I grew up knowing that I didn’t know where I belonged … and (maori tradition) when you are born the placenta is put back into the whenua, so the whole is where the placenta would go, I’ve had to imagine all of this as it wasn’t until I was an adult that I knew where my iwi and land is which is really far away, I have no (lived) relationship to it really at all, really a sort of diaspora, as an adopted child you have imagined where you are from. Even the relationship to the land, it’s a really different setting to where I grew up.

I need to go there and just be there and form that relationship, this year, this is for my children too to provide them with answers and connection.

I’m just thinking through with these materials and I know that it does look like a dump of waste and sometimes that actually feels like that. The balloon is there for the birth thing, celecbrating a birth but also should have slumped by now, but it hasn’t, I had calculated the time for it to slump but it hasn’t, I was wanting it to be more depressed looking and not so erect. It’s a process and I’m working through a very personal process that I’m working through here, its not exhibition material.

Someone said: It reminds me of like scifi like your lands alien to you so you are making an artificial land.

Me: yeah, making it up as I go

Raul: What is the concave space that you made their

Me: Last thing I made was an actual placenta, a blood less placenta, so this sculpture was the setting for it to gointo and then I realized it needed not to go in there

Raul: so in a way it was like an offering

Me: uyeah to put it back

Raul: I’m curious about your selection of materials – yoga mat, chicken wire, plastic shower curtain?, paper and paint

Me: I work with whats around me and I wanted the floor paint to be the land and I covered it up with plastic and then I disrupted it all by cutting into it and cutting back and changing the layers up, just because my fantasy about the land isn’t true so I was disrupting that,

Hannah: also like commentary on your loss and disconnection

Me: mmm its very haptic, stabbing marks, some controlled ripping and other stabbing,

Hannah: its quite a violent

Me: when this topic is written about – it’s talked about as a violence on children (though different to aboriginal children who were actually stolen), but in our culture you should remain in your own iwi. Clear plastic is about the in-betweeness of two iwi, no relationship to my blood iwi (as a whole) but a rich relationship with the family I’ve been brought up with but I can’t do anything “important”within the iwi as I’m not blood. I can’t register with the iwi, so I can’t be named as part of them, so I can’t claim (not that I want to) land, I’m landless, there a lot of issues surrounding (maori) adoption that people are not aware of in this country, there are 10’s of thousands of maori affected

Raul: atleast in that sense the materials do a kind of inbetween, the yoga mat inbetween, the plastic on the table is protecting and is inbetween, perhaps that’s something I can continue working on, selection of inbetween materials, …

Chicken wire keeps something in and something out Raul: yeah there is a common them in these materials

Hannah (now a bit emotional): it just make me feel really sad when I look at it, you’ve got that bassenet drape, a baby discocering the world

Labour of making it is very clear, you mentioned hacking, cutting or stabbing, almost like a weaving labourious sort of physical process

Guest: Writing this while observing our kittens chasing its own tale, why, to learn to balance, to be aware,slippery, dabs and claws only momentary purchase, fleeting success, labourious sort of physical process that I think comes across clearing.

Raul: traversing the inbetween material, you literally want to break through it

Guest: physicality

Sarah: I imagine it sort of floating hovering above the earth – the land being carried, no real place,

Me: Media articles use those words: floating, invisibility, … while I was fortunate to have an awesome family, and I now my birth family to a degree, others weren’t and some maori were adopted into pakeha familys so they lost the cultural as well, all these layers and different and diverse experiences. Theres a lot of shame about this and so its not spoken of …I presented in my formative the placenta in a shoe box because… what do I do with it?

Raul: Well I think there is a lot to go on interms of material selection, the inbetwwen, not necessarily being grounded somewhere, a lot of good metaphorical connection with the materials hat Ive selected that link with the idea, its just a question of how do you arrange them? how do you kind of address those issues with those materials?

Me: I think the plastic (sheeting) is deceiving for people (viewers) so I need to do something about that.

Hannah: not necessarily to be honest, there are a lot ofaudience is pakeha at Massey because our whole issue is ecology because pakeha fucked it up. But for maori its very different connection and different perception of worldly traumas and its up to us to educate ourselves on not for you to change materials or anything for the sake of appeasing people who don’t understand that narrative

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how much bullshit is in here? ive already noticed they refer to a zygote as a fetus

Oh lordy. Under a cut for length and extensive abortion talk.

‘have an abortion in the comfort of your own home’ listen you can get pills that do the same thing that you can take in the comfort of your own home, with the upside that you know the exact dosage, effect and efficiency of the thing. It even comes with a leaflet telling you how likely it is to have serious grievous-bodily-harm side effects or not. Herbal anything does nothing like that because herbal anything is hard to dose. That is like part of the inherent problem with herbal medicine, especially when it comes to those with narrow error margins before they turn from ‘helpful’ or ‘someone will die’

Next up, the idea that an abortion to take… weeks. That’s.. listen that’s not good for you. Even if you have a miscarriage early in your pregnancy, chances are it’s your body going ‘ahahah nope’ and kicking the embryo to the curb fast because that’s the most resource effective way and pregnancies are all about the resources, as far as your body is concerned. Drawing it out is… not a good thing.

Also at 6 weeks we’re not talking about a fetus. at all.

Oh,. and there is no ‘cycle’ anymore. Pregnancies interrupt the cycle, that’s the thing. Your body doesn’t have an inbuilt timer for ‘we should be renovating the uterus now’. The timer for that is provided by the fact that the matured ovum didn’t get fertilized, resulting in different hormonal patterns, resulting in bleeding. Or not, if you got pregnant. There is no other cycle involved here.

Another thing: ‘if the remedy is taken consistently for 3 weeks’

That is.. a lot. A long time. As anyone who’s ever had to take medication consistently can tell you, missing a pill is easy, so easy and again, the prescription stuff is usually single use, or with a considerably shorter frame you gotta comply with. That’s a downside. That’s a thing that ups the risk of making the whole procedure fail, if you gotta stick with for 3 weeks.

‘moon cycle’ is at this point getting a ‘muscle in my cheek is twitching’ response you know.

The solution for unaccessibility of abortions to the public at large is not ‘hey use herbs!’ it’s ‘fucking campaign for more accessibility you asshole’ . Like ‘use herbs’ is at best a short term bandaid of the actual problem. Not a solution to the problem!

herbal abortions were actually the standard of care for thousands of years.

So was blood letting. Something having been around for a long time doesn’t mean that it’s better, or even good. Also I’d like to point out that people back then had no other choice. There were only herbs. If you time traveled back and offered people modern medical care instead of stone age medical care do you really think they would go ‘but my herbs’ instead of ‘oh thank god my finger is not going to rot off’.

it is common for herbal abortions to create what are called incomplete abortions. this can mean that the pregnancy has ended but the fetus has not been expelled from the body. when this happens you can pair herbs to soften the cervix, with misoprostol to expel the fetus.

After six weeks it’s still am embryo at best, please use correct medical terminology if you’re talking about a medical topic. Also if you have terminated the pregnancy but not expelled the material…. that way can lie sepsis. I’m not joking that’s a thing that happens to people. Imagine TSS from a tampon. Not imagine it happening right in your cervix because your abortion went wrong.

which leads us right to the next quote:

some people choose to wait and have their body naturally expel the fetus, which it will often do on it’s own when given enough time. many doctors and midwives will advise against this choice, but ultimately it is the choice of the pregnant person to wait, or have the fetus removed some other way.

Or you can get sepsis and die. Sure it’s your choice, but you know what it’s a shitty choice especially if you make it because some idiot blogger on the internet has failed to tell you that sepsis is a thing that happens and that can murder you. BAD.

if all of these methods still do not work, which is unlikely but possible, surgical, menstrual extraction (if you are still within the 6 week window), and aspiration options are still available. some of these can be done at home, some would be better accessed (if that is possible) in a clinic or hospital.

i am afraid to ask what ‘menstrual extraction’ is. Really afraid. Because neither aspiration or surgical can be done at home. I mean you could probably do ‘aspiration’ at home if you want to really risk your life? I mean since I don’t know what ‘menstrual extraction’ is i can’t judge on that, but surgical and aspiration are fucking hospital and doctor jobs. You want a professional on this because the other option is the fucking coathanger and that’s how people die.

Also the um… the time frame… look if you’re unlucky it’s going to be 4 weeks before you miss a period and go ‘hey maybe I’m preggers’ to begin with. After which you have 3 weeks of herbal tea, already putting you past the ‘6 weeks’ window. that’s… that’s a very narrow window.

from my perspective, based on all the research and learning i’ve done, i think it’s important to know that herbal abortions were the primary method of care for thousands of years - way longer than modern medical abortions.

Because there was no other method. Modern medicine didn’t exist. We couldn’t synthesize chemicals tailormade to do a thing with the least amount of side effect. Surgical was possible but woooooo sepsis central. We’re talking about a time long before anyone every thought about sterilizing any surgical equipment in even the most rudimentary of ways. Herbs was all you had if you wanted to not be pregnant but also not die. That doesn’t mean that herbs are good or safe. It means that herbs was the single damn option beside ‘get the kid, i guess?’

The next paragraph is too long too copy but… it conflates industralization and witch hunts and claims that ‘loss of workers’ is what made people hunt down ‘healers’ as ‘witches’

First of, that is a grossly wrong time frame. The hayday of the witchhunts between mid 1400s to mid 1700s, roundabout, depending on where exactly you’re looking and when, as it wasn’t so much a continuous ‘300 years of burning people, everywhere, all the time’ as much as it was localized flare ups (excuse the wording) of panic and pyre building that died down again only to restart later.

For comparison, the industrailzation started, at the earliest estimate in england (which btw was never that massive huge in witch hunting as other places got) after the mid 1700s, so the industralization is placed solidly after the witch huntery. Depending on where you look, for several decades already. You can’t pretend that one is inherently linked with the other, when one started several hundred years before anyone even considered the other to be a possibility. There is a much higher chance that witch hunts in Europe were directly informed by the ‘small ice age’ ruining crops and leaving people looking for a scapegoat, or the 30 years war destroying swaths of central Europe, also leaving people looking for a scapegoat. I would also like to point out that a common first target of ‘we need a suspect’ tended to be the local Jewish population

Next up, the idea that midwives and ‘healers’ were primarily targeted is a myth. It just straight up is. People could and would accuse anyone (again, I’D like to point you at Jewish people who tended to get the first blow) in part because there was legislation in place that would give the accuser some of the worldly belongings of the accused. Yes there was a strong monetary component. Do not forget this. People are greedy fuckers and have always been so.

You know what I would like to see? Some sources. Like on the ‘fertility controlling stuff was still widely sold!’ like where do you get that from can you show me what is your source.

UPDATE THEY USED THE TERM ‘BURNING TIMES’ can you fucking not. Just… refrain. Please.

the goal of stigmatizing herbal and at-home abortions was to make us scared of our potential to care for ourselves and each other. the powers that be wanted to decrease our trust in the plant world as natural allies. this is a campaign of intentional disempowerment that many, if not all of us, still carry the wounds from today.

I just fucking love conspiracy theories, let me tell you. I especially love how this fails to mention how fucking unreliable herbal medicine is because dosage is hard on plants because their active ingredient content can vary so widely.

Oh great now she pushes historical revisionism books yeah that’s what we need. Also, more conspiracy theory. YAY.

You know the most annoying part? Author actually makes good points about the problems with access to abortions and how it’s much much harder than it has any right to be, but it’s all lost in the nonsense. Like why you gotta be like that.

The author then keeps going on how abortions are safe when you have the right information and how people have safely done it for thousands of years, but again, this was back when the surgical option would have been ‘nonsterilized environment, non sterilized tools and a medical practitioner of whatever flavour who does not understand what a germ is’. In this context, herbs are safer. But we have moved past this t vastly safer and more effective methods!

are you an expert? where did you even learn this from?

i am not an expert. i’m a curious learning who enjoys sharing my process. i’m a person who used herbs to effect and regulate my moon cycle for years. i’m also an herbalist and an at-home abortion advocate.

THIS DISCLAIMER SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE FUCKING TOP. If you are not an expert you have no fucking business handing out medical advice. This is medical advice. In fact, it’s medical advice that may fucking kill someone.

i have read many books, studied and practiced herbalism for years, participated in several workshops and online classes, and i’ve helped myself and my community with tracking our cycles and preventing pregnancy through contraception.

SAFDFHGHKJHGS. I just.. I gotta sit down for a second.

i also believe i have done this work in previous lives because of interactions i have had with plants where i knew i was supposed to harvest them and i didn’t know why. upon researching the plants (whose names i had no idea of until doing that research) i discovered they were popular abortion remedies in the places i have ancestral ties to. this work lives in my bones and my spirit. it is alive and hidden carefully in my ancestry.

Forget about sitting down. I’m laying down. Potentially I am laying down and crying profusely and/or screaming into a pillow. Sweet Plaguemum.

#submission #medicine is crying #common sense is crying #i hate when someone makes a good point #and then buries it under two metric tons of bullshit #abortion

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Oh hey, look what I found, proof.

Oh, hey, on Facebook there’s no trace that those comments ever existed. Those comments aren’t there, the replies aren’t there, and there isn’t any comment that mentions those awful comments. But there’s this, which points out that the comments are probably false; and this, which shows how easy it is to falsify a Facebook page.

Also, I searched what was the source for that image. Turns out it’s either the Federalist Papers, which is extremely right-wing and often promotes bullshit conspiracies and fake news; or the Nationalist Review, which has the exact same issues.

...You know, it’s clear that words alone aren’t stopping you from continuing to pull bullshit like this. Maybe I should write you as a lost cause and move to your family.

Also no, it’s not made up. So many black people who find enjoyment in things like dungeons and dragons, anime, reading, doing well in school, often get told they are acting white.

Given how often you lied in this very thread, I believe that you’re deliberately ommitting a huge part of context. You know, like those people who claim that a black co-worker snapped when they mispronounced their name, while completely ignoring the 999.999.999 other bullshit they pulled before that.

And actually no. I advocate for BLM to actually help their neighborhoods, surprisingly that includes dealing with black on black crime.

And again with the “black people are criminal, there’s something wrong with blackness” narrative...

But guess what happened? A BLM founder, also a “trained Marxist” decided to use donated money to buy multiple billion dollar homes and was planning on buying another one in the Bahamas.

She’s a teacher. Teachers don’t make enough money to buy billion dollar homes. So where did the money come from?

Not from donations to BLM. It probably came from the many jobs Khan-Cullors had, plus the two book deals.

That money could have been used repairing black neighborhoods in disarray. Create after school programs. Help provide medical care.

So let me get this straight: because someone linked to BLM bought a few properties WITH HER OWN MONEY, BLM is bad.

Yeah, how about we just break a leg?

I haven’t seen BLM do any of this stuff.

“WHY ISN’T GLAAD REPAIRING BLACK SCHOOLS?!?!?!?”

Iv seen them destroy and loot black owned businesses and homes, but never actually try to help the people they claim to care about.

Because you aren’t looking. Because you buy in the fake "BLM commits the vast majority of violence during their protests” narrative.

Because you’re racist.

I also never said black crime is created by blackness. It stims from so many things. low self-esteem, emotional problems, trauma history, low parental monitoring, housing instability, poor neighborhood quality, as well as a disregard for other people, and this can be found in literally any race.

Except that you never mention white-on-white crime, or asian-or-asian crime. So I don’t buy your explanation.

Also another mutual of mine, who is black, even told me that black cops shoot more black people because they come from areas that have had a history of gang violence. So these cops take that mindset into the police force. Or are you gonna tell me not to listen to my friends and mutuals

Considering that you’re a liar, no. Even more so when we consider that both white and black cops shoot black people at similar rates - therefore, unless white cops ALSO come from areas that had a history of gang violence, your theory doesn’t make any sense.

Once again, your a hypocrite who wants to kill children based on their race. Aka, a bigoted asshole racist who should never ever be in any possession of any weapon and never be around children.

Awwwww, little racist got offended. Good. Keep making up your bullshit - it doesn’t change the fact that you’re an hypocrite who keeps demonizing black people, but who can’t handle people using verbal violence back to you.

Its "black lives matter" for the same reason its "feed the poor"

You wouldn't donate to a billionaire

You don't need to march to give police men or white people their rights

They already have everything they need in that area

#racism

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