#One of those 'huh' things

[y-rhywbeth2]

Actually, re: the soul getting stripped of memories and much of its personhood thing, could someone get turned into a lemure without undergoing that process, in that you would have a devil that still has all of their prior memories and personality?

I presume it's potentially possible, given, say... Zariel, who remembers her time as a Celestial (although she didn't become a devil the same way at all, from the little I understand)

(whether or not anyone WOULD is a completely different question)

Hmm...

Zariel isn't the same as a damned mortal, no. She's an archdevil, which is a different being to the rank and file. Several archdevils are fallen celestials, or rumoured to be. Were she not an archdevil, according to some sources, she would be classified as an erinyes, which are unique amongst the baatezu due to having a celestial rather than mortal origin and tend to look down their noses at the rest of devilkind because of it. And then back in 2e we had Planescape just having them as a regular rung on the promotion ladder: DnD! (There is the question of mortals turned celestials turned fallen, I suppose. I recall Planescape once saying that only the lower planes reproduce via mortal souls, but then there are definitely celestials like Selûne's Shards who are former mortals, so eh. Deities.)

Descent to Avernus has it that Lawful Evil mortals who die on the plane simply spawn as lemures direct from the styx, but that doesn't give them memories (and the styx destroys memories on contact anway). Lemures have sometimes been noted to retain some semblance of their former selves, like their face and a vague sense of loss, but it mostly just drives them mad with pain and grief knowing they've lost so much but not being able to comprehend it. (You can also use polymorph and take the shape of a lemure, but that's not quite the same thing)

If you sell your soul to a devil on the Fugue to avoid judgement then the devil is obligated to give you a better deal than usual, which can include skipping a few promotions higher than the lemure stage (I think that's just 'turn into a lemure and then get insta-promoted though). You could in theory bargain to keep your memories, I suppose. It might just make being a fiend worse though.

Likewise, some deities have deals with the Lords of the Nine may have their followers undergo the process to turn them into devils. These devils belong to the god rather than an archdevil, and deities may chose to have their regular petitioners keep their identities, so I guess a Banite or Loviatan could enjoy a brief stint in lemurehood, a promotion to some higher, more useful rank, and their deity will slap the personality back on if they want their follower that way. Maybe.

I'm sure somewhere in the history of DnD there's been at least one devil that retained some semblance of self. Even if not, it's DnD, there will always be unique one-in-a-million cases.

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

I've never been more normal in my life.

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[heartorbit]

find another role, carry on the show

[egophiliac]

like mother, like son, but less wholesome this time?

(I couldn't decide whether or not to put them together, so have them in all the different ways!)

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

i saw them in the cookbook pages and Immediately thought of this meme:

[muzsmocsing]

Some underrated moments in book 2

🤍 When Xie Lian admitted if it weren't for his cultivation method, he 100% would've read the smut mortals write about Pei Ming already.

🤍 When Xie Lian described Mu Qing as a ✨Standard Pretty Boy™✨

🤍 The way Fangxin MOANED when Xie Lian took it in his hand after hundreds of years of separation.

🤍 Mu qing's worst fear being muddy scalies.

🤍 Qi Rong's poetic soliloquy about STDs.

🤍 When Shi Qingxuan disarmed Feng Xin, a powerful martial god with centuries worth of experience, just by running into him tits first.

(Book 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)

[grechsblog]

i think isafrin dynamic, especially postcanon, is so funny to me because (among other things) isabeau is the notorious Gets Scared When The Horrors Appear type of dude, but also happens to be madly into a guy who, for lack of better words, can be aptly described as The Horrors

[noxious-fennec]

Watch it man you got a kid on board

[theminecraftbee]

okay, so in a rare moment for me, there's a discourse thing i want to bring up, and that thing is. okay. so on iskall's stream there's this thing that can happen where someone brings up a criticism of his content or vault hunters. frequently it's self-evidently wrong, but sometimes it's not. and then iskall spends the next thirty minutes shadowboxing this guy, explaining himself, and completely derailed. and this is an iskall trait we all know and sigh bemusedly about, because he cares about the community and wants people to understand his intentions! he wants the community to understand his decisions!

however, it's not the community as a whole he's fighting; he is in fact, arguing with One Guy, who often doesn't represent the wider community, and who normally won't have their mind changed. hell, sometimes it's believable that they're satisfied having just managed to upset iskall, and they'll leave, no change to their mind, perfectly pleased that iskall's responding at all (that's what i firmly believe the people who poke at the 'you don't upload enough and that means you're falling off and a bad person' wound are trying to do, at least).

in the vault hunters community, we refer to this as iskall getting One Guyed, and it's typically viewed as bad, because it ends up focusing an entire moment on a single guy's negative opinion as opposed to on the larger picture. and it's an understandable thing to have happen! but it's frustrating to watch from the outside.

and so now i am looking at that cat poll. and the way everyone is still shadowboxing someone who has since apologized. and the way i would have never ever known about any of the negative comments about jellie if it weren't for fellow mcyt fans constantly putting them on my dash to dunk on them. and it's like. if you look through the notes most of them are just... normal? it's only a tiny few of people (and the pollrunner, who has since apologized) who were being dicks. it's a very, very ignorable demographic.

but. well. there was One Guy. and we had to correct them.

and folks, i don't know how to say that i almost never see "lol mcyt is cringe" type comments unless one of you puts it on my dash. both because i don't go looking through the notes of things that are likely to have them or go looking for reasons to be upset and because it's just... not that common! very frequently these days it is, in fact, One Guy!

i have almost never seen that poll on my dash without at least one instance of the One Guy. instead of being for fun, it's mostly become about explaining ourselves to someone who will not listen and will not change their minds, and treating this as a the whole of the Other Side of that poll, when most people are being... fine. they're fine! the majority of the people voting for the other side are doing it for perfectly normal reasons that don't require fighting about.

and man. let me tell you. after spending as long as i have watching vault hunters development? it can be just as frustrating to watch a fandom get One Guyed as it is to watch iskall.

[aj-artjunkyard]

ToA daemon AU where humans have daemons but gods dont. Gods aren’t people and don’t have souls. They still have animals which are associated with them, but they’re just symbols. 

Apollo, as Lester, gets a daemon for the first time. He didn’t have a daemon for his previous human punishments since he was a god in mortal form - now he is a full mortal. 

At first he thinks the unbearable pain in his chest is just the broken ribs from his free-fall from Olympus. After the fight with the muggers and his introduction to Meg, he finds he can’t walk ten steps from the dumpster he landed in without collapsing. 

Meg rolls her eyes at his utter bafflement as he squawks about being on the brink of death. She and her small hare daemon cast their gazes about the alley, then in the dumpster. She reaches in and pokes something, and Apollo gags in pain. Meg seems satisfied, and announces that he can’t leave because his daemon is stuck in the dumpster. Apollo snaps that he doesn’t have a daemon, he is a god! Gods are self-sustaining, they do not rely on puny- ack! Meg had poked the thing again.

Frustrated, Apollo pulls himself up to investigate and explain to this silly mortal why whatever-it-is in the dumpster cannot be his daemon. Then he sees it. 

It’s a tiny white mouse. Suddenly he notices the pain in his chest is not just broken bones, but a distinct emptiness. Something is missing. As soon as he locked eyes with the mouse, he knew that it was supposed to be filling that hole. 

Apollo had been associated with mice for some millennia. He had been called Apollo Sminthius since before the siege of Troy; Lord of Mice. They were useful for spreading plagues, and rather cute, but not something he’d ever thought of as similar to him. He was no mouse! He was a mighty lion, a sweeping falcon! He was a god, the very top of the food chain! He was no ones prey! 

But there it was. A tiny, insignificant creature that looked as if it belonged in the dumpster. Not unlike Lester Papadopoulos. Perhaps Apollo was a great dragon or a fearsome wolf, but he supposed, with crushing disappointment, that Lester was about as close to a mouse as any living being could get. 

[ratatatastic]

https://youtu.be/RbgDHyeQNdE?si=WXnghZZuAyvgumVL

Keith saying him and Matthews fiancé do the cooking for him and he just sits there and heckles them. So on brand.

"And how about your barbecuing skills? It looked like you knew what you were doing behind that grill!" "Well, Matthew is pretty useless so! Unlike Brady—Brady can, you know, does things on his own but Matthew likes when I'm down there so I do cook and his fiancée, Ellie, does a great job so. He just sits back and critiques us but forgets that we're the ones doing all the work for him. Which—hey! It was playoffs! I'll do anything for my children."

NHL Tonight: First Shift | 10.16.24 (x)

unfortunately tracks for him and im still crying into my hands its always the one who cant cook for shit thats the mouthiest about it

and considering this clip from faceoff it really does track

[ticklepinions]

No more t*ckling scenes in media. PLEASE

Why is it the ones that circulate always sprinkled with an unhealthy amount of *weird*

Or is it just me because I'm hyperaware of seeing my own interest on the big screen

What happened to lighthearted pokes in the sides why is it so deeply non consensual or used in a way to make fun of it.

Like PLEASE be fucking normal about it!!!! Whether it's as a kink or not don't make it weird 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[stuckinapril]

Reading an article on how no one truly knows how to read a book front to back anymore is making me so terrified I literally don’t gaf if I’m a biochem major it’s looking more and more every day like I’m going for that literature master’s degree for no reason other than to feel something

[angelmichelangelo]

i've probably already talked about this before but it's so crazy to me how in 2012, splinter, who has some idea that he's about to die at the hands of the shredder, decides to split his sons up in the final boss fight and has raph on the roof with him instead of leo.

like in a writing stand point, you'd think they have leo there instead, the one he has the most personal moments with. the one that he's most connected to, due to the fact that in the beginning of that very episode he's like: yeah so when i die and you become their sensei/parental figure yada yada yada...

but they have RAPH there instead. and it's like. devastating to think that splinter thought that maybe he'd survive... but then if he didn't, he'd have to have at least one of his kids up there with him... and he'd have to pick who it was that had to see that :/

and part of me thinks that it was probably always between leo and raph. maybe because they're the oldest/strongest and having mikey or donnie up there was maybe never an option... of course he'd want to protect them all from it but it was a choice he had to make and maybe one he'd mulled over before the fight even started.

and yeah maybe they put raph there instead of leo because they needed a reason why leo wouldn't just.. go ham and kill the shredder up right and so they kinda nerfed raph by having him injured but yeah. i think about it a LOT that raph was the one that was with their dad when he was killed, up on that roof without his brothers watching his dad go over the edge :(

[andiv3r-drawing]

11 year old me meeting current me is a fun concept. (ID in alt text)

[screebyy]

I really hate the "growing pains" stage of art, like the period of time when your ability to identify what you don't like about your art has outpaced your ability to fix it. Like I know what I want to be different but I don't know how to do it