#Nazi apologists

[odinsblog]

This is where we are right now

It was definitely a Nazi salute, from an apartheid loving white nationalist.

[victoriadallonfan]

“Local Moron Who Denies Nazi War Crimes and Associates with Nazi Apologists Upset that People Call Her a Nazi Apologist.”

Remember who JKRowlings friends (aka homophobes, transphobes, and fascists) are:

[tomorrowusa]

Tucker Carlson interviewed a Nazi apologist who purports to be a historian. Elon Musk recommended the interview on Twitter/X before taking it down without explanation.

Tucker Carlson has come under fire for platforming a guest who claimed Winston Churchill “was the villain of Second World War” and that millions of people “ended up dead” in Nazi concentration camps. On Monday, the right wing media personality hosted self-proclaimed historian Darryl Cooper on his podcast show – a man who has been accused of being a “Nazi apologist” for comments which appear sympathetic towards Adolf Hitler. The two-hour conversation was condemned by many on social media, including Liz Cheney – whereas Elon Musk promoted the video to his 196.5 million X followers, calling it “very interesting” and “worth watching.” The controversial tech billionaire appears to have since deleted his post.The Independent has contacted X for comment.

This is the current state of the MAGA Republican Party: Praise for Hitler, Putin, and Kim Jong-un and condemnation for Winston Churchill.

Nazis and MAGA have never been far apart. Remember the tiki torch "very fine people" in Charlottesville?

[redditantisemitism]

Found on tumblr, not Reddit obviously. At least they comfortably file it as antisemitism for me

[immaculatasknight]

In Goebel's footsteps

[laughingmagpye]

Wait, did I miss something? People are defending the fucking SS for some reason?

It's not a moral judgement on *you* if your grandparents joined the War Crimes & Genocide Brigade of the 1940s... until you start defending their actions, at which point you're letting everyone around you know that you would have happily been a fucking nazi.

Fucking hell. 2023, when "nazis are bad" is apparently a controversial statement.

[short-wooloo]

The sith are not an oppressed culture forced underground by the Jedi

They're a deranged cult devoted to creating tyranny which they rule, murdering anyone they deem an enemy, and selfishly indulging in their wants no matter what it costs everyone else

Them being in hiding was their choice, they're a conspiracy, a shadow hiding within the society they are deliberately trying to destroy/warp into their image

[sissa-arrows]

People pretend the issue is with the “Israeli” government. That the people are good beans and innocents…

Meanwhile a couple days ago French Israelis voted for a guy who said he unconditionally support Netanyahu and is even one of his friends. A guy who is against a Palestinian state, not even the bullshit two state solution that would still be colonialism, he says “Israel” should take it all and just kill all Palestinians if they can’t displace them in other countries. A guy who tried to pressure the cops into dropping the charges against Jewish guys who attacked 2 Muslims in France. A guy who said Palestinians were a “cancer” implying they should be all eradicated. A guy who said “and we’re not done!” When a French representative mentioned at the National Assembly that Israel was dropping bombs on the very same places where they told Palestinians to go to (some in the left wanted to remove his immunity for that but the president of the National Assembly was a Zionist piece of shit so she refused and said he was covered by his immunity as a representative)

(For the record the chick is a piece of shit as well but she didn’t go as far as he did)

[jedi-enthusiasm-blog]

No small part of Legends seems determined to make the Jedi look bad and the Sith look good. Considering the Sith are inspired by nazis and fascists, it's both funny and deeply concerning.

But I digress.

One of these attempts is the character Darth Vectivus, a human male Dark Lord of the Sith during the time of the Galactic Republic, when the Sith are in hiding. Apparently, he's a man with friends, with a family he loves and who love him back, a regular job… He's a perfectly normal guy, a perfectly mundane dude among thousands of megalomaniacs.

His first appeareance is as a ghost (some funky Dark Side thingy he created, btw), when he's trying to convince a Jedi (don't remember this one, I think it was a girl?) to strike him down. This is because these ghosts are connected to a living being, if the ghost is striken down, the being they're connected to dies. Vectivus is connected to Jacen Solo, who's on the edge of falling to the Dark Side. Apparently, Vectivus does not want a galaxy ruled by the kind of Sith Jacen Solo (or rather Darth Caedus) would become.

But, unlike other attempts at making the Sith look good in the EU, I actually like this guy. Why? Mostly for the funnies, not gonna lie. This Dark Lord of the Sith, the ultimate villain of the SW universe… is a perfectly normal guy with the same problems in his life as the rest of us.

Vectivus didn't know he was Force sensitive until his adulthood when, while doing Business™️, he and his employees came across a Dark Force nexus inside one of the mines they were working in. Fascinated by the power he could feel, he disolved his business, gave compensation to his employees, and went to search for the surviving Sith who could teach him. However, despite his Sith training, he remains a perfectly normal guy who lives a perfectly mundane life until his death, when he dies surrounded by friends and family. It's hilarious, can you imagine his Master's face? The sheer dissapointment?

He has restrain and moral standards. For example, he seems to be a decent boss and doesn't exploit his employees, cares for his friends and family and, just by guessing, isn't a complete asshole to his Apprentice since, whoever they are, they opt not to kill him despite the existance of the Rule of Two.

And yet… we find out he's still economically predatory, he still abuses his powers to harm and profit over rivals, and generally win at business. He isn't causing harm to those close to him, but he's still harnessing the Dark Side to hurt others.

That's the whole point, the Dark Side is always corruptive. Darth Vectivus is just less corrupted than most Sith.

That's it, that's what I like the most about the guy. He seems normal, is normal in a way… and yet he's still an evil bastard, only the regular evil bastard we find in our daily lives instead of the murderous crazy no-sense-of-restrain kind of Evil Bastard™️ we're used to see in a Sith.

It's… a bit of a grim reminder that evil is everywhere, in everyone, including you, and it can take many forms. That even the most kind-seeming people can be evil.

On the other side, the people he's murdered are… zero. Nonexistant, zero, nada. He's killed absolutely nobody. It's actually pretty funny. He's the only non-murderous Sith in existance, literally the only sane man in an Order of fascist megalomaniacs and it's hilarious.

I'm rather glad for his existance, actually, thanks Legends. Mostly because now I can say that I've killed as many people as a Dark Lord of the Sith.

[my-pjo-stuff]

Love how the larger PJO fandom treats Luke fans like they are some sort of criminals for liking someone "evil". As if Darth Vader isn't just straight up one of the most popular pop culture characters EVER.

[odinsblog]

FLASHBACK: Nazi apologia - Benjamin Netanyahu said that “Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews.”

According to Netanyahu, Adolph Hitler did not want to kill Jewish people, it was Palestinians who convinced and coerced him. (source)

Fortunately, Germany did not allow his lie of Holocaust revisionism to go unchallenged. Germany accepted full responsibility for the Holocaust and would not absolve themselves from the responsibility for the atrocities committed by Hitler and the Nazis.

Holocaust experts also publicly condemned Netanyahu’s Holocaust revisionism and Nazi apologia. (source)

And just because this isn’t crazy enough, Benjamin Netanyahu’s son, Yair—who also espouses white supremacy and Nazi apologia—has long been the darling of Germany’s rightwing AfD Party and known white supremacist websites like the Daily Stormer. (source) (source)

Just putting this back up front because it is imperative that people understand how much Netanyahu and Likud hate Palestinians — enough to claim that “Palestinians are the real Nazis,” and enough to absolve Adolph Hitler of agency for his heinous crimes against humanity. Worse still, Netanyahu is using his Holocaust revisionism as a basis for leading Israel to commit collective punishment and genocide against all Palestinians.

[canis-familiaris-neurosis]

Mouthwashing 🤝 Arcane

no one in this fucking fandom knows how to act normally and genuinely critique media for what it is both with and without meta context

[thegeekgene]

Remembering the time my high school bestie punched a dude in the face in the middle of the gym and every teacher present was miraculously not looking and in a strangely excellent mood for the rest of the day and when we were walking down the hall later one of them saw us, looked around to see if anyone was watching, and detoured to give my friend a high five without making eye contact.

Five years later I was at a thing back home and ran into his mom who was very excited to see me and talk about her beloved son with one of his schoolmates and that was trial of the medallion bc she later told my parents how sweet I was and never knew the whole time I was thinking 'my bestie punched your son in the face in front of the whole school and it was collective best day of our lives'

[fireworkss-exe]

"I'm interested in ww2" 🚩🚩🚩

"I'm interested in ww2 gay people" oh thank god

[henrysglock]

adding “clansman” to my list of shit i’ve been called for having opinions about white characters in a tv show. i guess.

[uwuthrad]

I'm just shooting the shit because it's one am and I can't sleep but sometimes I'm a little bit sad that the Thalmor are written as cartoonishly evil nazi stand-ins because it preemptively de-claws their gripe against Talos worship, which is actually very valid when you think about it in terms of the literal deification of The Guy who was known as a killer of mer.

And it's weird how reoccuring of a theme it is in the Nords' self-mythology, too, because that's something Talos shares with Ysgramor, who went on a bloody genocide spree, ultimately, because the nords claimed a right to Skyrim they felt superseded that of the snow elves, which is just weird, when you think about it, because as far as I know there's nothing to indicate they had even been there before Ysgramor's time.

You find Ysgramor in Sovngarde. There's no reason to believe Talos isn't a real god, in-universe, either. But fuck, man, if I was an elf and I saw a dude who hunted my people for sport and wasn't ever sorry about it ascend to divinity, I would be mad, too. Mad enough to tear the world to ribbons, too, if I could.

In TES lore, belief maketh gods, sorta. And sometimes I wonder if the Thalmor want to stop Talos worship not because of the whole tower theory, but merely because - imagine it - Talos being a god means there is a god above that hates you, not for who you are, but what you are. And that's terrifying.

The Thalmor are not nice. They're not sympathetic. They do horrible thing. But shit, man, who wouldn't, when faced with the threat of divine annihilation? One that you know half the world endorsed with a smile, out of pride, even when it meant deifying your murderer? I would be ugly, too. I would be petty and mean and cruel, because that's how scared people behave. That's what happens to people you tell you don't think they really are people.

Anyway I have a lot of feelings about the god-emperor-conquerer narrative in TES and its narrative perspective. Probably will delete later