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I feel like we deserve happy Luke head cannons, so I typed into a head cannon generator and the first thing that came up was-

‘Luke Castellan secretly enjoys watching animals doing dumb things’

The second one was ‘Luke Castellan has insomnia’.

And ya know what, I think both of those make perfect sense and are very true.

......I do not want to be mean, but due to ethical concerns, I refuse to engage with anything AI-generated. This includes things such as ai art aswell as text programms such as chat gbt. Now I am not sure what kind of headcanon generator you used, however in my personal experience these things more and more commonly start using AI.

As such I refuse to engage with this ask and I refuse to answer it. You are more than welcome to ask again with a topic or headcanons that are not AI. Or ask the same ask while providing the headcanon generator in question, so I can make sure it doesn't use AI.

I am sorry if I am comming of as mean, please know that this is not my intention. The reason I reject AI is the fact that it cannot fit with my personal morals, and even ignoring that the fact that I am friends with multible artists. And as such I refuse to support a thing that activley threatens them and their craft.

This is no attack on you, however I will state it here officaly.

I will not answer, and from now on even engage, with any ask including AI.

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He never once canonically did anything to Silena. The only thing we know about is that she "found him charming", that's all. We have no info on him or what Luke did nor what his thougths are. If anything, all we know is what Silena thought of him.

Just because a teenager finds an older guy charming or even hot doesn't mean that guy is a pedo. Otherwise pretty much every male celebrity would be considered a pedophile, seeing how many thirst edits horny teenagers make for them.

Oh and before you wanna come at me with the grooming allegations:

Number 1: We do not have any book proof of that. Again, all we know is that Silena found Luke charming. That is not an information about what Luke did, but about what Silena thought of him. For all we know the guy had no idea she even liked him that way, because we do not know it.

Number 2: Grooming describes a long-term manipulation technique where an adult builts up a relationship with a child and gets them to trust him and/or see him as a friend, inorder to get something from the child. Luke could not have groomed Silena into joining the TA, because he frankly said didn't have the time even if we wanted to. We know Luke recieved Backbiter as a gift of sorts upon swearing loyalty to Kronos, he calls it a "new toy" during his confrontation with Percy. Thus we know that he couldn't have had it for that long- him stealing the lightning bolt was most certainly the first thing Luke ever did for Kronos. The guy then left CHB on the summer solstice for good. That leaves him roughly half a year, and even ignoring the countless other things he would have to do. That is not enough time to groom someone. ESPECIALLY since at that point he and Silena most certainly knew eachother for a while.

And last but not least, Number 3: Luke did not specifically seek Silena out. He probably met her by accident during camp because they were both there at the time. Luke never once sook her out. If anything he manipulated her at most, not groomed her.

So yeah, sorry not sorry but you're basically peddling baseless headcanons here. Hope I could answer your question tho.

“luke’s not a pedophiple because when he asked annabeth if she loved him he didn’t mean romantically!!!!”

what about silena

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There's no cope greater than that of the PJO fandom having to come to terms with the fact that their fav just...isn't as perfect as they thought he was.

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I just realized Percy fans would be a lot tamer and less insufferable if this fanbase collectively called them out on their bullshit. *drops mic and sprints for cover*

You see, the issue is:

Most of the fanbase IS a Percy fan. They aren't called out because most people are in on it.

It's what happens with a self-insert protag whose image is twisted by years of nostalgia and headcanons.

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Sorry for the rant (again 😅) but personally, I can't help but be taken aback everytime someone pushes the narrative that Percy is some genius or something.

If anything, his strategic prowess often seems to be a result of "MC gains IQ in the face of danger" trope. For eg, since you seem to be acquainted with anime - take a look at Goku and Naruto. Not particularly bright, but in battle their geniuses.

Yes, it is possible for people to be dim in some areas and good in others, but the way it's written with Percy, Naruto etc it just seems to a variant of plot armor and self-insertion rather than a genuine streak of intellectual proficiency.

Like, yeah, sure the child of Athena (Annabeth) has less strategic feats than Percy. Totally not self-insertion.

Oh yeah no, definitely. Honestly I feel like the main reason that Annabeth has less feats that Percy is the fact that the no.1 rule in the PJO universe is: "No one can be better than Percy".

It fucked over Jason, it fucked over Ares in TLT, and not it fucks over Annabeth. How many more victims will fall to this rule? I don't wanna know, but it's probably gonna be a few more.

Though I do think it also helps that whenever Percy fights, the plot immediately twists around him to see him win. Either because his opponents immediately lose like 50 IQ points, or because Percy just so happens to fight near water/any other advantageous position. It's honestly insane, and the fact that no one calls it out is even more so.

(Also don't you dare compare Goku or Naruto to Percy. Yeah they do have some dumb plot armour at times and are definitely idiots but atleast they're entertaining. And actually somewhat well written. /jk)

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I mean if I was at camp half-blood and forced to sleep on the cramped floor at the Hermes cabin because my parent wouldn’t claim me I would totally be convinced to join Luke’s side that has a cruise with 8 lounges, several pools and spas, a bowling alley and hundreds of cabins.

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Imma be so fr, personally I'm not rly a fan of Lukercy. I find the age gab a bit uncomfortable- which doesn't mean I condemn the ship or anything. It's fictional characters smooching, so I don't really care what people do with them aslong as it stays in fiction. Live and let live, yk?

But also months spent in the PJO fandom constantly having to argue against the same bs points of people who cannot read their own books, ontop of unbelievable amounts of toxicity and buzz word throwing, brought me to the point where I exist out of spite to them. And I also know how much they fucking hate Lukercy.

So anyway yandere!Percy x Luke anyone? Percy, whose fatal flaw is loyalty, actually has that as a FLAW which turns him into some obsessive stalker??? I'm talking insane stuff, like. It starts out all innocent and cute during TLT where he just wants to stay near and around this cool older guy only to spiral when Luke betrays him. And with 'spiral' I mean Percy openly talking about wanting to lock Luke up so he'll never escape. He asks Chiron if there's a possiblity to brainwash people or erase someone's memory just so he can have Luke back. It's insanity. Annabeth herself starts being scarred. This thing isn't normal anymore.

And mind you Luke had no idea of any of this. He feels vaguely guilty about what happened but also, the Golden Age he is aiming to achieve is so much more important than even Luke himself. And he has to focus on that. Hell he doesn't even like....view Percy as an option. Or clock how absolutely insane that boy is about him due to their limited interaction. Perce is building a shrine in his honor like some psycho lover and Luke has no clue. He thinks Percy's inlove with Annabeth or smth. He assumes the kid's normal (or as normal as any demigod can get.)

So imagine his suprise when after he was supposed to have killed himself, Luke wakes back up in some ancient greek manor on an island. Magically unable to leave with a golden collar around his neck, and Percy eagerly awating him waking up.

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I hate this fandom.

Genuinley.

I despise it.

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I just had someone compare Luke's suffering to that of Percy and Annabeth and like...

....not to be mean or anything, but no? Just straight up, no. They are not at ALL comparable??? Which isn't to say that Percy and Annabeth didn't suffer- merely that Luke had it a billion times worse than them. Literally.

Yeah Annabeth got abandoned and had to deal with the gods, that sucked. But she still had camp, and well- Luke on the run to turn to. Luke himself never had anyone, not at home with May NOR at camp where he was pushed to take reponsibility of other demigods. Annabeth had little support, Luke had NONE AT ALL.

Same goes for Percy. He grew up ostracized and with an abusive stepdad. Which is also horrid. But mind you Percy still had a mom who loved him and spent enough time away from Gabe to atleast not have lasting Trauma (and No, I will not budge on this. We never once see Percy with any lasting trauma from Gabe in the books, stop with the headcanons).

It's honestly wild how people downplay Luke's life. Like. The boy went from an insane mom who couldn't take care of him and a dad who accepted that and had them live in filth, to a life on the streets, to a life where he was basically a child soldier expected to look after and train his fellow child soldiers. And I am NOT EVEN MENTIONING HIS QUEST OR ANYTHING THAT WENT DOWN IN CANON.

I knew the PJO fandom had little to no reading comprehension and are blind horndogs for their favs but still. Holy shit.

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Alright fuck it, let's get down to this.

-"Manipulated and loved bombed kids"

> Book Proof? Lovebombing is a very specific form of manipulation where you first "bomb" someone with love (aka, you give them a lot of it) and then take that love away to get them to do something. Luke never did that, and no Silena doesn't count. We don't know what Luke did there. She just found him charming, that's all. We have no further details. And no he didn't do it to Percy in tlt, that kindness in care was genuine. The Prophecy says Percy would be betrayed by someone that calls HIM a friend. Not who HE called a friend. Same goes for the manipulation claim as a whole (but yk who was Manipulated? Luke by Kronos, canonically stated. Since the guy was a teenager after an intensly traumatic life he recieved no help for)

- "Killed children bc he wanted to help demigods"

>Luke never killed anyone on page expect himself, that was Kronos. I assume you are reffering to the war bc that's where most kids died, expect at the end where he offed himself. Between that and everything else? Kronos. Luke was possesed. It's explicitly stated he had no control over those actions. Read the books. But also THANK YOU for proving my point, bc yk who killed demigods for "the greater cause"? Percy. Yk how he helped blow up the Princess Andromeda? Yeah, we know by Alabaster that he's pretty much the only survivor. Meaning Percy has atleast a kill count in the hundrets, and he did that outta his own free will. Oh and don't say "Well He warned them". They were literally in the middle of the ocean minutes before the whole thing went boom, there's nowhere near enough time to even just pass the warning on. So yeah, Percy canonically killed more demigods than Luke ever did yet y'all somehow only blame....Luke for things he didn't even do. Way to fuck over your entire argument by yourself lmao.

-"Luke using demigods for his egotistical revenge"

>He wanted a golden age. Like. You got his goal wrong (which is wild cause he stated it word for word during the very first book). Sure revenge is a part of it, but Luke wanted a golden age for demigods above all. Where there were no more gods and the demigods could live in peace. This wasn't a revenge plan, this was a revolution and liberation plan. Again read your books. (Also for the manipulation and abuse statements, read the stuff above). Also also, motherfucker ik damn well you did not compare Luke to the gods. You do realize that Luke was like.....a deeply traumatized kid right? And that demigods who did joined him mostly willingly??? AND THAT CANONICALLY A MAIN MOTIVATION FOR HIM IS ALSO A GENERAL LOVE FOR DEMIGOD KIND AS A WHOLE???? IF LUKE LOST THAT MOTIVATION DURING THE STORY LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'D BE NO STORY. OR PERCY WOULD HAVE LOST, BECAUSE THEN LUKE WOULD JUST LET KRONOS DO HIS THING AND NOT KILL HIMSELF TO STOP HIM. BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T CARE FOR OTHER DEMIGODS. INCULDING ANNABETH.

-"Dark Percy not hurting demigods to achieve his goal"

>Unrealistic as shit, mind you. You do realize the only reason Luke managed to get as far as he got was Kronos, right? Kronos was the reason the TA could command monsters and also why minor gods later on felt confident in joining up. Demigods alone could not defeat the gods, no matter how powerful they are. There's no way Percy on his own could ever realistically defeat the gods nor convince the minor gods and titans and what have you to join up. Not to mention that Percy "not hurting any demigods" would require for all demigods to switch sides with him, and for none to remain of the gods' side. Which is also dumb, because we know that the demigods generally think their parents are cool and are like.... never truly united. Remember when the Ares cabin pulled out of an ongoing war due to some petty squabbles? You think those guys will switch sides all together? Not even mentioning every other demigod around. And even if Percy got all of CHB, what about the undiscovered demigods who the gods would no doubts collect to be their soldiers, or New Rome, hmh? You realize how idiotic this idea is? Also, "Percy going on a crazy killing spree and never hurting innocents"??? 'Crazy killing spree' and 'never hurting innocents' in a sentence???? You do realize how that just doesn't work, right? And also you do know gods and titans can't be killed, merely sealed? Kronos ain't dead, he's down in Tartarus again. How, pray tell, do you think Percy as a mere mortal with no divine help is going to be able to do that?

-"Luke got lost in rage"

> Eh, true. He did fucked shit. But also his entire life was a ongoing torture porn flick DIRECTLY because of the gods, where it was drilled into him over and over again that the single most important thing was glory, which could only by achieved through violence (fighting shit = violence). And where general strenght and worthiness as a whole were benchmarked on how well you could fight (violence, again). Only to also never recieve any help for the various horrific traumas he recieved during the course of it ONTOP of being expected to basically run the single most negelected and abused cabin in all of camp. So how about you cut the deeply traumatized guy who probably has PTSD worse than Percy and any war vet of your choice combined some fucking slack? Especially considering that, again, had Luke truly "lost sight" of his og goal and only been in for revenge- then he wouldn't have killed himself, Kronos would have risen, Percy and Annabeth together with Grover are dead frfr and the gods locked in Tartarus.

Anyway thanks for comming to my ted talk. By god do I hate this fandom incapable of reading their own books and living off of hypocricy. Thank god I'm German so I got taught critical thought in school. And also I am done with you, dear rebloger. Block me cause if you respond I am not gonna read it, considering the amount of basic errors in this post of yours concerning the actual canonical events and posibilities of the PJO verse I do not think you'll be able to produce much better.

If I come of mean spirited that's because I held this exact discussion a billion times over and am quite frankly said tired of this bs.

Hot take time, the only reason most of the fandom hates Luke/condems his actions is because he's framed as the antagonist. If you kept everything in canon the same but portrayed Luke as the protagonist people would love and celebrate him.

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I am never getting over how Percy fans keep crying and trying to portray him a character who was seriously done dirty by Riordan....like, nvm the fact that most other characters were treated worse than him in the narrative.

Many of them were deprived of focus for Percy's sake, even in the og series. My expectations were in negative infinity and I was still let down *sighs*.

If anything, you can clearly see how the narrative was constantly warped to him look good and better than others, with crazy amounts of plot armour and worshipping from other characters...but, no, they won't notice that. Why do they act like this? I'll never understand ugh.

Sorry for the rant 😅

Honestly, yeah. Now that you mention it I deffinitly see what you mean. I don't usually spend much time think about Percy or interacting much with his fans, considering I also find most of the insufferable, but I get where you are coming from.

I so agree that Rick managed to fuck Percy over in the newest books in the same sense that EVERY character who appeared was fucked over in the newest book. But acting like Percy is somehow uniquely mistreated by Rick is insane.

Like, I have seen people complaining about Percy being made to look weak to let other characters appear strong and....well, I mean technically you're right. But also how come most people didn't have a problem when the exact same happened to other characters? I mean, just look at Jason. He's a son of ZEUS yet also exponentially weaker than Percy.

Then all those weird powers Percy constantly gets, and feats he got. Remember how he basically ended up leading Camp Jupiter a few weeks after arriving? How much do we wanna bet that if it would have been any other character, or if Jason would have ended up the unquestioned leader of CHB a few weeks after arrival, people would call it bad writting? The hypocrisy the fandom applies to Percy is honestly just so tiring.

But then again, what can you expect from the (at times) borderline Mary Sue self-insert MC?

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Slightly dark, crack-is AU where due to severe trauma and unbelievable amounts of issues, the whole of CHB decides Luke has got to be brainwashed by Kronos. And that's the only reason why he betrayed them.

The whole thing starts when Percy "My fatal flaw is loyalty" Jackson just..... can't really handle it well that Luke left. I mean, he was the first person that was ever nice to Percy and took him under his wing without asking any questions. Percy thought of him as a friend, someone he could trust and who was there for him. His first ever friend in this new world, who he thought would stay by his side and be there forever.

So having him just up and leave hurt. A lot. And what does a semi-traumatized twelve year old do in situations like that? He starts lying to and deluding himself into thinking Luke was simply brainwashed. Everything he did and everytime he hurt Percy, that wasn't really Luke. That was just Kronos mind controlling him. Because Luke would obviously NEVER do such a thing? And instead of fighting him, they need to save him and undo whatever Kronos did to him. Easy as that.

(Easy, because Percy does not have to think about it. He doesn't need to question himself, his relationships and the gods. Luke will return, and nothing needs to change more than it has already)

The idea continues to spread with Annabeth and Grover, both just as hurt and traumatized and oh so close to Percy. It wasn't much struggle, comfortable even, to accept his explanation of what had happened with Luke. And it certainly is better than knowing the boy who raised you, the boy you spent so much time with, could turn his back on you so readily.

And from then on that whole idea only get's more and more people into it. Luke was everyone's brother, everyone loved and looked up to him. No one wants to accept the truth- not when a convenient alternative exists. And if Percy, Grover and even Annabeth agree on what must have happened, then so could they.

Basically all of Camp Halfblood just turns into a delusional angst fest to handle what the hell just happened. Dionysus and Chiron both know that it's not the truth- that Luke wasn't brainwashed and did what he did out of his free will- but nothing they do gets through to the campers. And well- that particular version of events really is a lot more comfortable. Especially since everyone seems to believe it no matter what anyone does. Perhabs the campers do have a point with their theory afteral, more or less-

Or, perhabs, Chiron finds the idea of a brainwashed Luke better than a traitorous Luke too.....

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Friendly reminder that show!Luke and book!Luke are NOT the same person. Just like how show!pjo and book!pjo are two entirely different stories.

And another friendly reminder to go along with it, the book canon is in this case the superior canon as it came first and been around longer. Whenever I talk about anything PJO related, assume I am talking about the book as a default if not stated otherwise.

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Love it when, whenever I tag one of my critiques of a character with their main tag, I'll get people in my notes telling to "keep that stuff out of the main character tag".

As if they themselves don't spam Luke's character tag with their hatred of him constantly.

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I think it says a lot that most of the fandom still acts like Luke is some kind of unique evil DESPITE the books explicity stating he's not. Like. The whole message of the first five books were that Luke had a point and that the guy was morally grey. Not evil.

Literally, it never fails to surprise me. They call Luke fans delusional or say that we "haven't read the books", yet they themselves ignore one of the core messages. It's just such a hypocritical thing to do. You say you love a series with all your heart, yet you refuse to acknowledge a core message of it????

Make it make sense please.

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Yeah I have no words....

the pjo s2 teaser does confirm for us that we're at a certain point where we cannot recognize certain scenes anymore and that the show is splitting off from the books in a non-trivial way because genuinely what the fuck is luke doing here

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I got brainworms so enjoy a short drabble of Luke's death in my German!Luke AU. It's like 3AM for me rn and this was written in one sitting. Barely edited, No Beta We Die Like Luke, please excuse the quality.

For a more authentic experience go listen to "Let Down" by Radiohead while reading this, cause that's what I listened to while writting.

Have fun~

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“W-We can still fix this!” Percy spoke in a frenzy, desperately pressing down on a wound far too severe to be survivable. “J-Just hold on! Everything will be fine, Annabeth, quickly-”

Besides him, Annabeth kneeled. Shaking hands shoving pieces of ambrosia into his mouth. The girl’s desperate attempts choked him as his blood stained the ground beneath. Luke only shook his head as he coughed, pieces of godly food flowing out of his mouth alongside blood. Staining his skin a horrible red.

“P-Percy, Anna-ah-beth…don’t- don't be silly.” He tried to argue, weakly pushing at the youths crowded around him. Grover thankfully standing a bit further off, giving them space, but looking equally distressed. “Y-You know, ya don-’t– you don’t recover from stuff like this.”

A hole in his gut from Kronos’ scythe was not something you came back from. Admittedly planting a Greek fire bomb on the guy the way he did was dumb. But they didn't know the vessel's weak spot, and fire didn't care where it burned. It enveloped everything- it was their only chance. His life or that of the world.

It seemed so easy.

So obvious.

The three children were still crying.

Luke couldn't feel his legs anymore and was steadily losing feeling in his arms. He knew this was his end. The hero’s soul cursed blade shall reap, what a cruel trick.

“Y-You’ll need- need to look after eac-eachother now.” The older said instead, “Y-You demigods,..- o-nly have eachother n-now”

“Save your strenght!” Annabeth ordered him in response, still shoving ambrosia into his direction. “You- You won't die! Just hold on, we- we can–”

The girl was as stubborn as she was smart. How endearing. He would have loved to see what she would do with her future. Surely Annabeth would grow up to do something truly magnificent.

A shame he had to miss it.

“An-nabeth-” Luke tried to say in the most stern voice he could muster, and at least his death was a slow one. As odd as it sounded. It gave him the time to speak, at the very least. “Please, don- don’t–,,, make this harder. We both know, a hit like this—”

She knew it. Of course she knew it. The girl was far too intelligent to not know this. But that didn't help at all when she threw herself over his chest. Uncaring of the way she soaked herself in his blood. Percy yelped, tried to say something, but was stopped when Luke lifted a heavy arm over Annabeth.

“It- It’ll be- f-fine” He promised. She only sobbed more. “Y-You two gott- gotta be strong, now.” The older one continued. And it was such a sick sense of irony. Luke was dying, and he was using his last few minutes to comfort the survivors around him.

“It- C-Camp, you t-two will need to look after camp. Yo-your fellow demigods. S-see to them. Yeah? F-for me?”

Was his shirt wet from his blood or from Annabeth’s tears? He didn't know. But the girl nodded slowly between sobs. And Percy did so too.

“W-We will.” Annabeth said. And the boy agreed. “I- I W-We will. We won’t- we won’t let something like this happen again,” she continued. “I- I swear in the Styx. I- You won’t have died in vain!”

Satisfied with the answer, Luke did his utmost to move his arm across Annabeth's back. Tracing smoothing circles over the younger’s back as she was still unwilling to let go of his chest.

He turned his attention to the boy, Percy still sitting at his side and pressing down at his wound.

“A-And, b- bring me home, P- Percy,” Luke gasped pleadingly. His failing lungs forced the words through his mouth and his life left him. “T-Take my remains- and, and bring them h- home.”

There was no way the boy could refuse the older anything right now. Annabeth was already crying far too heavily to properly speak, but Percy knew she wouldn't protest when he promised. “I will, I will, whatever you want. Me and Annabeth- w-we’ll get you back home. To Germany, yes? To your Heimat?”

The word tasted foreign on Percy’s tongue. The sounds were unpracticed, and he didn't know why he chose to say the German word exactly. It was one of the few he managed to pick up from the older. Heimat. Home. Maybe Percy thought it would mean more if Luke heard it in his mother tongue.

“H-Heimat,” Luke repeated like a prayer. “Yes, yes. Heimat. Percy, bring me- Return me to my Heimat. S-sink my ah- ashes into the Isar. O- Or bury them in my village’s soil. Ah- Anything, -will do. Just- Just, let me-”

It was getting harder for him to speak, Luke’s death struggle worsening with every second. Percy could feel the hot blood on his hands where he pressed down on the stomach wound. The red liquid burning into his skin as he attempted to prolong his friend’s life with futile efforts.

Dull, sky blue eyes looked up at Percy. The blood smeared on Luke’s face serving as a horrible contrast to them.

“Le- Let me,,,, r-rest– h-home.”

“I will, I will, I swear, I will, Luke. I will, I-”

Suddenly, the burdened rise and fall of his chest slowed. His time had run out, it seemed. Luke looked up one last time- the cold marble of Olympus’ throne room starring back at him. Serving as a witness to all that had happened. He said something- in German.

“Auf Wiedersehen, liebe Welt. Ach, warst du nicht auch so schön?”

Percy wanted to ask what Luke meant, but before he could the older closed his eyes. And his laboured breath finally stilled.

Distantly, Percy could hear Annabeth scream.