#My Vivziepop video ended up not working out.
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Vent?
I don’t know…
I think that I give up.
I’ve tried everything to call out Vivziepop.
A video that failed to fully call her out due to me just wanting to push out info and leave.
Documents.
Commission Offers.
Everything, and nothing seems to be working.
I said that I didn’t want to do this anymore anyway. So im going to have to find peace in other ways. Especially since there will most likely be a video on Vivziepop by the time Hazbin comes out anyway. So maybe I should just be patient instead of unnecessarily putting so much on my back. Peace.
If anyone wants to take on the task on making. A Vivziepop video on your own:
My Vivziepop related document is still up there on my pinned messages. So you’re more than welcome to use that as a resource. It’s just that… no one will help and it’s starting to make me feel overwhelmed. Is there really no way to make a video on Vivziepop without it being some stan video or clickbait? Is this really all there is?
Are we just doomed to say the same thing on Tumblr over and over again while the Youtube crowd continues to get cold feet because of how they perceive Vivziepop as “untouchable”?
This is starting to make me feel like there’s isn’t any hope in calling out Vivziepop.
Honestly.
It’s such a desperate/concerning situation that im not sure will ever end. It’s like Dream but worse and with even worse stans.
I give up.
Edit:
I decided that instead of giving up, I just remade my Vivziepop video to be more focused on Vivienne herself with a information being in the description as I wanted it to be:
youtube
Thank you.
#anti vivziepop#helluva boss criticism#helluva boss critical#vivziepop critical#I give up.#I don’t know what else to do.#My Vivziepop video ended up not working out.#I don’t have the resources to make another one.#Or the energy.#-and im running out of options.#So im going to have to just wait it out till someone decides to make a non-stan Vivziepop video on their own.#Youtube
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So hey long time no see, just popping in to say that this video by Official_TVC is bullshit.
So summary + thoughts:
Video starts off with defintions on different types of stalking & they say Vivienne has experienced all this kind of stalking. Then goes on to say its 2 individuals doing this stalking and they we the viewer doesn't need to know them, Official_TVC has done a lot of research on them and we should should trust Official & their word without evidence because apparently they retweeted something on twitter & it was a tumblr post thats supposedly exposed Vivienne's siblings, personal things ect. All this is hearsay by you, it shouldn't make the average viewer trust your word. Yes I've seen things but that was from posts I've seen.
Aside -honestly Official should be questioning the anon asks we get on here, some of the asks contain some questionable info like how do you get that info. People get asks on here containing info, people don't go out & hunt all Vivienne's private life, we receive stuff thats how things come to light, OTHER PEOPLE SEND US STUFF.
All the background of the video is helluva boss/hazbin scenes coupled with music from respective shows. No evidence, not even heavily censored evidence to protect Vivienne, just Official_TVC talking & basically saying "trust me bro I did research, believe me". This is heinous accusations, individuals you are talking about & you give nothing. It could be lies for all people know, I don't even believe & I've seen the things you're referring to.
Continued, the stalkers, the 1st one is a "troll" according to Official_TVC & the second is supposedly so bad they were quote " has been 15 ft from vivziepop", no backing on that 15ft statement, Official_TVC just states this. All this stalking, entire pages made is because of a ship. Leaking show stuff (aside again, is GIVEN TO US VIA ANONYMOUS ASKS).
They carry on to say essentially all this hate talk on Viv on YT is cos she's popular, they got nothing of meaning to say on Viv cos they hate her so much they can't talk about her positively. They then mention a person has a never ending stream that just feeds misinformation other YouTubers & quote "on the precipice of wanting to strangle a woman (Viv) who made the crime of making demons gay". Wtf does that mean, who has this never ending stream of feeding misinformation to other YouTube, who & wtf are you talking about.
Anyway, goes on to compare spindlehorse workplace allegations to Amazon (yes ironic) & how Amazon treats its workers really bad... do I need to say more. Goes on to say everyone ragged on Viv because hazbin hotel is on Amazon, Amazon is bad & quote by Official_TVC is cos "everyone looks for an excuse to hate". Ok now I'm giving evidence on why people ragged on Viv for prime since you give jackshit.
Amazon/prime is currently being boycotted, its on the bds list why people were saying to pirate hazbin. Not some bullshit reason Official gave on it being mindless hate. Here is a video explaining why people are boycotting Amazon:
Vivienne also like this post from a fan, do I need to spell out how fucking disgusting this tweet is and the fact that she liked it.
Official carrys on to say stalker 1 did 3 things, doxxed Vivienne, & in their words if you go to said person's page Official states "im pretty sure they know where vivziepop lives". That is speculation, thats your opinion cos no evidence is provided or can be for that matter cos this is what YOU think. Dropping as Official says "nuggets" of info on Viv's siblings University, their work (this info was from a sibling's linked in page, public info). Can I say aside, I know her sibling's names. Why, not from stalking but from them leaving comments on Viv's speeddraws and Viv publicly naming them on her PUBLIC socials. And if you know someone's name you can easily find out what uni they went to, if you know my name & search me up you know what uni I go to its in the public on their linked in, social posts ect.
They go on to talk about how terrible leaking Viv's shows are, which idgaf. Amazon is a zionist corporation I'm pirating anything of Vivienne. Even invincible which I love, pirated it. Fans should too (since I see a lot of fans with free palastine in bio but still pay for prime). Anyway thats on them.
TW: talks of sexual harassment. So Official doesn't want to give more info on this individual which I respect & understand. However they say stalker 1 is sexually harrassing this person, sending content of a sexual nature all because the victim in this situation didn't agree with stalker 1 on the stalker's sentiments on hazbin hotel. I understand protecting the victim but my soul you're literally protecting the perpetrator. Expose them, you keep staying stalker 1 & 2 CALL THEM OUT. Protect the victims but expose the perpetrators.
They go on to stalker 2, who know stalker 1. Stalker 2 supposedly went to the hazbin premiere. They were there to keep an eye on vivziepop Official quotes. No evidence of this quote or info just them relaying it. Again this is all your words against what. Yeah that is concerning it really is but substantiate this evidence & quotes. This is the 1st time I'm hearing about this so I would like to know more on this & this heinous person. But you don't give any evidence. Official says " these people need to be stopped", how can they be stopped. You give no names, no info or evidence, its wishful thinking you saying this. I'm harping on and on on about Official gives no evidence but its so flipping frustrating hearing them spout all this WITH NOTHING to back their words.
TW again: Mentions of suicide and Shay a fan bullied by the fandom who then took their own life. Know a lot of people are still saddened by what led to Shay's passing why I mention this.
Official says stalker 1 is using the death of Shay to entice fruther harrassed on Vivienne. Its "apparently now", huskerdust fans went after Shay with heinous harassment & Shay subsequently ended their life, may they rest in peace. Official claims stalker 1 says Vivziepop is directly responsible for Shay's death. Shay's death was worded as "apparently" but stalker 1 using Shay's death to pin it on Vivziepop is stated as a fact. How disgusting can you be someone died & its apparently so to you but your word of mouth should be considered fact, fuck off. Official then goes on to say... sighs quote "we do not hold politicians accountable when they massacre people of other countries... bloodlines don't exist but we don't blame the politicians pushing the buttons".
Ok wtf, yes we do we blame Biden & other politicians & presidents for pushing the figurative & literally buttons on massacring Palestinians & other minorities, WE DO so wtf are you talking about. I honestly hate Official at this point because wtf are they saying. I don't blame vivziepop on Shay's death, even though when there was attempts to reach Vivienne on what was happening to Shay, maybe the channels they used like email didn't get the message across unfortunately. What I absolutely hate is when fans, like official now use Shay's death as a pawn in relation to people hating on Viv. No one that I've see & I'm saying it now I know who these stalker 1 & 2 are not even they were as disgusting as Official & fans to use Shay's death as to further hate on Vivienne. What Official_TVC is saying is bullshit.
And I disregard everything Official_TVC says after they hearted this comment, fuck you Official_TVC for hearting this vile comment.
I link a screenshot of the outreach to Vivienne via email on Shay aswell as the document on Shay's.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSfCoyn81fp83pycx5eyS4oxryRpFnVnHdEeyEyouigrKSWAZ5iEgTjt7Q63n68S_PcZK7_klB-9dH1/pub
In all this video is a load of nothing, bullshit actually & just vile on the parts of Shay. They ended of once again reiterating they won't give proof because people just want names & evidence for the tea/gossip & they want to protect Vivienne, shoo shoo. Again trust me bro, I did the research so trust me.
I want to reiterate I condone no actions if provided true on stalker 1 or 2. But from what I've seen of them is all out of context, lies spread by the fandom & things just made up down the grapevine. I don't do this for likes, clout or other bullshit the fandom says. Wouldn't be of me on my nature and the work that I do. Come with substantial evidence, then we discuss & make conclusions but for now
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I hate Vivienne and this fandom, bye all.
#vivziepop critical#helluva boss critical#spindlehorse critical#my post#hazbin hotel critical#helluva boss criticism#helluva boss fandom critical
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I think what's actually alarming about Helluva Boss and Vivziepop is that the shower suffers from heavy creator-fan enmeshment, and the writers/Vivziepop don't see themselves as the problem for it. It's like they see themselves as the victims, too, while encouraging their fandom's toxic mindset and behaviors.
The writers/Vivziepop are not only too entangled with their fans, but they're THINKING like fan artists/fanfic writers instead of actually making a show. There's a difference between writers of a show and fanfic writing. When you take up the mantel to create a show you have to carry yourself in a way and write your show with a point otherwise you end up with shows like Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel, Miraculous Lady Bug, SVFOE, SPOP, and other shows that fall into that category. Some of them focus more on the shipping than the point of their show to begin with.
What makes a good show is having that distinction or maintaining that professionalism. Creators of shows should NEVER let themselves sink into the cesspool of their Fandoms because they should be focused on their story/message instead of all this shipping/woobing bullshit.
TLDR: Helluva Boss never had potential with VivziePop holding the reigns to begin with. It's too disorganized and unfocused, and with the Fan Enmeshment, it was never going to grow or expand from its fanfic-y feeling. If the creator of the show never grew up, we should never expect the show to grow, too.
Though it is a shame since it could have been charming, had someone more professional taken the show.
Viv definitely was never cut out to handle a big project like this. I’ve said this many times before, but ya, Viv writes like a fanfic writer; everything with how messy the structuring of how her shows is and how poorly they are planned makes me think this.
It reminds me of when I tried to make my first fanfic and just went in without a plan with how to structure it which led to me just abandoning it early on. Viv writes like that.
She didn't listen to criticism of her Zoophobia comic and she still isn’t listing here. She shifted the focus of HB away from the premise to shipping nonsense and now we have this weird mess of a show that doesn’t even know what it wants to be anymore.
Season 2 seems to prioritize relationship drama over the actual premise which caused the show’s downfall. Hazbin feels a bit less fan-ficy but it’s still very messy.
Viv just crams too much shit into too little time which results in the pacing being awful. She paces her shows like a fan fic writer. It feels like she only came In with a small understanding of how show running works and jumped right into the industry because she was excited to show off her gizzalion OCs she had since high school.
Everything about HH/HB feels amateur. I really think that before you get into storytelling you need to actually study how to create good stories, like there are YouTube videos out there you could watch for free that give a run down of what is good or bad writing.
You don’t need to spend 20+ in school to be a good writer but you need to have a basic understanding of how to even write your ideas before you start making stories…which Viv clearly does not.
HB Season 2 in general doesn’t feel like a natural continuation of the first season. It feels like a fan-fic written by a fan after season 1 ended posted on wattpad that the show runners decided to animate and voice into a full season.
Viv should have learned how to run a show before jumping into something as ambitious as this, but she didn’t, and look at what we got.
#vivziepop critical#hazbin hotel critical#vivziepop criticism#helluva boss critical#helluva boss criticism#hazbin hotel criticism
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The Subtle Abuse and Manipulation in Hazbin Hotel
TW: Discussions of abuse, manipulation, and parental alienation
(Alt: The Completely Unnecessary Dick-Measuring Contest Between Two Idiots With Too Much Pride)
Hazbin Hotel has recently released its first season, and I have observations. There are quite a few things I can write about, but I’m going to focus on the fifth episode, “Dad Beat Dad” and its insert song, “Hell’s Greatest Dad” and how completely unnecessary this competition was. But also about something I don't see talked about enough.
The episode opens with Charlie freaking out over why the hotel isn’t working, and Vaggie suggests getting help from her father. Charlie is initially resistant to the idea but perks up at the thought of asking him to get her a meeting with Heaven.
Here, we meet Lucifer. And honestly, I appreciate Lucifer’s depiction in this. He’s awkward, goofy, and “Take that depression” had no right to be that relatable. I’ve read enough about how Lucifer can’t relate to his daughter because his guilt for giving free will bogged down his consciousness. And we see this very clearly in his songs. In “Hell’s Greatest Dad”, he offers Charlie to give her lavish material things and “rig the game because [he’s] the ref”. Peak “I don’t understand another’s feelings, so I’ll supplement it with material objects” kind of transactional relationship, despite Charlie wanting to connect to him on a more personal and emotional level. Something that they achieve in their second song, “More Than Anything”.
But that’s where my analysis of Lucifer will end. For now.
I’d like to focus on Alastor in this essay. Alastor comes into the episode as everyone is getting the hotel ready for Lucifer’s visit, then introduces himself with instant passive-aggression and, “You might have heard of me from my radio broadcast”. To which Lucifer says, “Nope!” insults him right back, and we get Alastor’s first swear word on this show. Hilarious.
Now, it’s clear as day that Alastor’s part in the song was just to get under Lucifer’s skin. Vivziepop even confirmed this and that Alastor doesn’t actually see Charlie as a daughter. (This video at 3:50)
Side Note: The line where Alastor tells Charlie, “You could almost call me ‘Dad’” was the creepiest part of Alastor’s character for me. I’ve had guys try that with me before, which brought up bad memories.
But this entire sequence was more than irritating Lucifer just because he didn’t know who he was. Charlie is very much a sentimental person who likes buzzwords and talking about feelings rather than material items and power. She’s literally the Princess of Hell and refuses to use her authority because “That’s so meeeaan!!!” But this makes her very naïve and susceptible to manipulations.
I’m saying that Alastor competing against Lucifer is unnecessary because there’s no reason to try and sway Charlie from getting her father’s help. Let’s assume that Alastor knew why Lucifer was there. Alastor is an Overlord. He’s right in between the Sinners and the Ars Goetia in Hell’s hierarchy. And he’s not even the strongest Overlord around. He may be consorting with royalty, but nobody respects them. He’s not gaining any power, especially after his seven-year “sabbatical”. He wants a deal with Charlie for whatever reason, so he helps her with her hotel. But even he can’t get the angels to meet with Charlie, which is what she wants.
Alastor is basically abusing Charlie. There’s emotional manipulation, singing, “I’m your guy, your day-to-day, your chum, your steadfast hotelier” and reminding her how much help he’s been to her. And then there’s the parental alienation and isolation with that “dad” line and that, “Sadly, there are times a birth parent is a dud. They say the family you choose is better”. He’s trying to get Lucifer out of Charlie’s support system and is playing on her “daddy issues” to make her trust her more. These are classic abuse tactics to keep the abuser in power. It's not as in your face as Valentino with Angel Dust, but it's still there if you listen to the song.
As someone who is a victim of parental alienation and manipulation, coupled with what Alastor says in the seventh episode, I’m getting more and more worried for Charlie as the story goes on. I understand that the show wouldn’t have been able to progress without him, but I also wouldn’t put it past Vivziepop to make him the Big Bad.
#writing#essay#hazbin hotel#alastor#charlie morningstar#lucifer morningstar#hazbin alastor#hazbin lucifer#hazbin charlie#manipulation#tw abuse#tw manipulation#analysis#vivziepop
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This might be my Last Post regarding Vivziepop
I'm just going to say this as a longtime fan since 2019 I was extremely disappointed, before all of this I started following her since 2019 and watched Hazbin Hotel and I thought it was good alongside Helluva Boss which I rewatched in the past of my Youtube Downloads bec the PLDT internet during the Coronavirus that started in 2020 was not great. I used to listen to her different music genres of her speedraws while I'm drawing and I also watch her speedraws and was amazed by the process on how her artworks was made. I even made a fanart about her for my college project
This is my fav Die Young music video that I made fanart for
Artwork I Made for Technicals in History of Graphics Subject in First Year College for my favorite artist and animator Vivziepop.
Although despite Vivziepop's success as an Indie animator and for running Spindlehorse, I cannot deny she's a very controversial person to any video or tweets about her is always related to her past controversies, while I do see that there are unfair accusations thrown against her I still wish she addressed her other controversial stuff that she didn't addressed whether she's aware of what she did or not and I'm not going to mention any names bec I do not want to be involve deeper in the drama bec I've seen there are other tumblr and twitter posts calling her out, not to mention the fanbase is divided with diehard fans, neutral fans, haters, stalkers and critical fans. Also the reason why I'm really dissapointed with her bec any controversy that is meant to call out her attention she blocks people on Twitter whether the person is criticizing her show and her actions and not to mention she started becoming unprofessional lately. I can understand if blocking is meant to avoid harassment, if that's the case, but when it comes to criticism she was acting unprofessional and not to mention not addressing in a professional manner can make people go unprofessional against the creator, if I'm being honest she needs a PR Manager or Assistant to guide her. At the end I'm disappointed, I expected better from her, being a longtime fan since 2019 deeply hurts me, for me this might be my last post including the tumblr fanart works I liked related to the show. I just hope she won't get the worst Cancellation that might make her leave the internet and cancel Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss and her other projects, bec that is the worst thing to happen and I wish she needs to step up her game and try to improve her behavior including the writing of her shows. Only time will tell until she realizes this, and I don't follow Viviziepop or Ayy Lmao anymore, and I'm all for valid criticisms for Vivziepop just as long as the people were not harassing her or sending death threats and also making false accusations against her and just because you may not like her as a person does not give it a free pass to make up false accusations and lies against her and is not acceptable, the fandom should do better. Until then, goodbye Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss fandom, I used to be a fan of the show but I cannot support Vivziepop anymore, and it's time for me to leave.
BTW the art that I made for college will not be removed despite my mixed feelings about Vivziepop it would be a shame for me to delete it with all the hardwork I made it. So it will not be deleted from my Deviantart and my tumblr post including my other Hazbin Hotel redesign edits and Beelzebub redesign edits in my Deviantart account if you guys also want to check out my work there.
If Charlie Morningstar the Princess of Hell will redeem sinners by making Hazbin Hotel a place to rehabilitate sinners and make them become better people, then I hope Vivienne Medrano who uses her creativity through her artworks and being an indie animator to inspire her fans and artists like me, but she needs to grow up and become a better person.
#helluva boss#hazbin hotel#die young#vivziepop#vivziepop critical#vivziepop criticism#helluva boss critical#helluva boss criticism#spindlehorse critical#spindlehorse criticism
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What did you base Alastors Nox Magia off of? Why type of magic is it and where did you get the ideas for a good ass fanfic?
Thank you for the question!
The answer is sort of a long story that I suppose begins with my first exposure to Hazbin Hotel in general, during a particularly doomed D&D campaign where my character basically acted exactly like Charlie did in the pilot:
Granted, Fianna is not anything like Charlie at all, but the DM found it funny enough to send me the gif above and then everyone got distracted for about 5 minutes while they started meming.
The next day I watched the show and was completely hooked!
I started looking into the Wiki to get a greater understanding of the world shown, read the comics (like all 20 pages hahaha), and listened to Addict while working on prompts for Charlastor Week 2022, taking a break from my regular manuscript I'd been working on for a few years (stay tuned for updates soon on that one!). I had about a month so I decided to try my hand at smaller short stories, since some of the authors I idolize are so good at short fiction, and conveying strong emotions in just a few thousand words.
I watched and rewatched the Pilot, studying the characterizations there as well as thinking about funny and unexpected scenarios the characters could get into while dealing with the concept of redemption and how to make it work (needless to say that the fact that they already had it happen was... unexpected. I have thoughts on that but will put a pin in that for now to avoid getting too distracted from your question!).
I can't remember which rewatch it was that I picked up on an interesting exchange between Charlie and Alastor that turned into a whole mess that would consume me to this day:
She tries to put a limitation on his ability to do too much, and I wondered if that could lead to a sort of interesting power-play between them (because in the end this is the part of their relationship that is fundamentally interesting - they're both powerful people with opposing moralities, having to work together to acheive a common goal). Basically, because Charlie's not precise with her language, she ends up basically not controlling Alastor at all. Which works out in its way, because she hides from her deeper wellspring of power with the aid of a gentle persona.
I liked the idea of something deeper between them and within themselves - and with them being opposing forces, I wanted to work with the idea of Alastor being associated with "night" and "dark", versus Charlie being associated with "sunlight" and "rainbows".
Shadow and Flame, only a bit less Lord of the Rings and a bit more sexy.
Nox Magia , the "night" magic, follows basic arcane principles that I've picked up on through the long and involved process of being a massive nerd and reading a lot of stuff.
For writing magic, I like looking at basic logic structures and hovering somewhere between harder and softer magic. My other manuscript that is premiering this year will be discussing some differing types of magic systems as well, if you enjoy reading Riddle and my other works, I hope you enjoy those as well!
But as for the story itself, it wasn't meant to be a story about a man falling in love... it's the story of a man being dragged into love, kicking and screaming about it. 🦌🌈
To Alastor the Hotel is about control, and his experience there is just a game not to be taken too seriously. Charlie is also about control, or rather, trying to find a way to control without breaking everything with her terrible strength.
Alastor embraces his strength, while she hides from it, and he finds that contradictory instinct in her interesting, so he comes up with the idea of a game to teach her some magic that might help her. But as with all magic, intent governs everything (even when you don't realize), and the spells he's teaching are telling a particular kind of story - you can preview what's happening in the chapter titles that have the runes' names! 🍷
❤️ Thanks so much for reading! ❤️
#charlastor#radiobelle#hazbin hotel#charlie x alastor#hazbin hotel alastor#charlie morningstar#riddleofmagic#hazbin hotel charlie#charliexalastor#i will go down with this ship
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I know we’re all saying “Vivziepop is digging her own grave at this point” when it comes to how unprofessional she acts in the public eye, but honestly? She’s not digging her own grave. Nobody sees an issue with how she’s acting, in her fanbase’s eyes, all she’s doing is defending her show and sticking it to the haters who bring her down. Nothing more, nothing less. And I get it, freedom of speech exists, Viv can say whatever she wants, it just ticks me off at how she chooses to deliberately act like a fool in front of everyone when she could have kept it to herself. The problem is that no matter how good or bad you think the Diregneltmen video was, at the end of the day it was NOT worth going to twitter and getting mad over. Viv should have simply ignored it and moved on, because any normal creator would go “Ah yes, another hater video, well it happens, I won’t let that bring me down”. But nah, Viv just HAD to go to twitter and express how much that video got under her skin, making herself look like a sensitive and insecure fuming jerk.
In my eyes the problem with Viv is just that she’s an attention seeker. Usually when content creators are upset, they’ll stay off the internet for a bit, but not queen Vivzie. She has to let exactly EVERYONE and their mama know when she’s mad, upset, or overall just having a difficult time. That’s why she’s made countless poor pity me tweets, angry meltdown tweets, or depressing tweets that would make anyone go “You need to get off your computer and talk to a therapist instead”. Because yeah, she’s kept up her “I’m sorry for existing” tweet, she’s kept up her pity tweets about how tried she is working on two shows, she’s even kept up the meltdown she had after her old house got doxxed, calling everyone “fuckers and hypocrites” and she does it ALL for the damn attention.
It’s so clear that after she spotted the Diregentlemen video, she was so insecure and angry that two professional writers were calling her out and making her look bad, so instead of just getting off the internet or venting to a friend or family member, she hopped to twitter and showed everyone how deep it got under her skin because she NEEDS the comfort. She knows her fandom praises her every chance they get, and she needs the praise. She needs people to call her a queen, to call her shows masterpieces, to stroke the ever loving hell out of her ego and paint her as this godlike flawless innocent woman so she can feel better. She relies on her entire fanbase to coddle her and I think it’s pathetic. It’s not just pathetic that she can’t take criticism and acts like hate or feedback isn’t a normal part of life for every person on the planet, it’s not just pathetic that she acts like a woman child and can’t act like a full grown adult or DEAL with her emotions like a full grown adult, it’s pathetic that she takes any negative feedback to heart and needs her fanbase to praise her to make her feel better.
And it sucks because I’m not saying I wish Hazbin was taken away from her and she was stripped from fame and her projects, all I want is for people to wake up and realize that the behavior she’s showcased is NOT okay. She good be so much better and handle situations more smarty, instead of some spoiled rich middle school girl that could destroy anyone in her path, because she KNEW what she was doing with those angry tweets, she knows her fanbase is going to go after Diregenltmen and that’s what she wanted. This has happened so many times before and I’m sick of it. She knows that the moment she shows everyone she was hurt by someone else, everyone will go after that person, and she does not care. She’s a gaslighter and manipulator, puts on her “professional” face at the last second and no one cares because people think she has a right to defend herself while not realizing that she adds fuel to the fire whenever she reacts so negatively. I’m just so done with her, she’s never ganna change or improve as a person, nor is she ever ganna put in the effort to improve her damn writing because in her eyes her writing is flawless apparently and anyone who doesn’t like it or has an issue with it can shut up and burn at the stake.
#rant#I’m sorry it’s legit more depressing than it is aggravating#like I really did use to like this woman but she’s a bully#and a liar and a manipulator who destroys or warrants the attack of anyone who is against her#vivziepop critical#anti vivziepop#helluva boss critique#hazbin hotel critical#helluva boss critical#spindlehorse critical
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Earth Angel In Wing & Sweater-Town (2024)
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Credit for Transformers goes to Hasbro
Credit for Steven Universe goes to Rebecca Sugar
Credit for Undertale goes to Toby Fox
Credit for Hazbin Hotel goes to VivziePop
Credit for Red Vs Blue Series goes to Burnie Burns & Rooster Teeth
Credit for Halo Game Series goes to Bungie
Credit for Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command goes to Disney
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in case some might not be able to read the words very well, I think clicking on the drawing to make it bigger might help...I'm saying this before I post this, in case it might not be big enough to read the words unless one clicks on it...
I also decided use the angelsona tag for this, because technically the Earth Angel in the drawing is suppose to be me, in both wing and sweater town.
I would of posted this on January 6, 2024….the day I drew it, but there was a bit of a problem with Tumblr it would appear…which the info about it says it was being worked on and trying to fix it.
I was feeling a bit in a sad mood some hours ago on January 6th, before I drew this drawing on the same day, but maybe I can talk about it another time.
and while I did check once more, a few minutes later…it appeared that Tumblr was back to normal again, but I decided to wait until January 7, 2024 to post this.
also there can be different reasons why some Humans and Humans who are Earth Angels, to fall under the 8th Sin…some of them being because of Other Humans and Eon-Boomer Angels/Fallen Angels. and even if I know I don't really have the power to, but if I had lost my second cat because they weren't taking to the vet on time or those who work at the vet messed up and I lost my fluffy baby because of it…
I would cause Omnigeddon…also my day was doing a little okay on January 6, 2024 and I had plan to play some video games as well, but then something had to put me in a not so great mood and so I had to go to bed to sleep it off…
well at least some other stuff that happen later after what put me in a poor mood, end up making me feel a little more better. and yeah, the one who is hiding in both wing & sweater town is suppose to be me…
ya can't really see me, only know that I'm hiding behind energy wings and a sweater because the drawing is suppose to match how I was feeling because of some some humans…
I think sleeping the 8th Sin off helped a bit, well that and some stuff that ended up making me feel better…at least I watched a few episodes of Ah My Goddess and some episodes of Sailor Moon before that thing that I saw that put me in a gloomy mood.
Alastor being able to use Earth Angel Magic, does seem like a interesting idea…the idea is that he uses the pendulum to find where I am, which is in wing & sweater town.
and I guess if I had to talk little bit of what made me feel unhappy and think as well feel like I'm under the 8th Sin during that time, it has to do with that bad mouthing about Alastor… hopefully things will work out….
and ya know, it be interesting if he could use a pendulum even in ways I may not be able to, even though it did freak me out at first when I was holding a pendulum for the first time and it started to move around like crazy…
the chance of Alastor also being RH Negative, is perhaps very VERY small…but I'm going to view him as being RH Negative in the Fanon… speaking of that, I am going to at least try to see if I can at long last, get to the whole checking my blood type again…and yeah I get your blood type is with you for the rest of your life.
but I guess it's freaky to have O RH D Negative Blood, and your own Mom has O RH Negative Blood, but where did the "D" part come from…?
and yeah I'm weird, one of my weird thoughts is that I don't want Jesus, Antichrist, and Archangel Samael to harm Mother than she was already…
and by "Mother" I mean the Omni-Mom, and by that I mean the Goddess. I can still believe in Jesus, but if he is a part of that mess along with Archangel Samael…
well I'm not going to agree with it, and he still needs to be saved from himself if some stuff I read that has to do with him turn out to be true.
also no one is gonna change my mind about believing in both God and Goddess, not even that Toxic-Religious jerk who should of just shut up when I pointed out how bad that they were making me feel. hopefully they aren't doing that to more people.
I'm going to hope other Earth Angels finally wake up to the truth, but it should be of their own free will. but in case not all Earth Angels wake up to the truth, I might as well go solo until more Earth Angels finally wake up to the truth.
even if things are a bit more better for most women and girls (even if it isn't at 100% and is likely around 99% or 98% or maybe around 95%)
but we still need to finally see that one of the problems…is that Omni-Mom was harmed as well as the Divine Feminine energy, and it took probably a super long time for her to get a bit more better.
I think when I can, I will do another drawing ship of Wasp x Lazuli (from Transformers Animated & Steven Universe), and another Mamtella drawing (Mammon x Stella's ship name), that ship name still seems like some kind of food ya eat.
even just talking/writing about that ship name Mamtella, it made me hungry…I can't help that their ship name reminds me of food. XD well me being my weird self is better than being gloomy and possibly going all 8th Sin at times…I could make a list as to what causes me to become under the influence of 8th Sin…
and once again the whole "Eveningstar" has to do with the weird thing with my Mom, and how she NEVER got Morning sickness with me, but instead got Evening sickness.
I rather be called a purple blood than a blue blood, cause at times blue blood can mean another thing…some might know very well if they had looked it up before.
so I'm glad that only some of my Ancestors were Royals and some weren't, I wouldn't be a purple blood if it weren't for both my royal and non-royal ancestors. :D
I'm a Weird Earth Angel Princess, even if I don't work 100% like Other Earth Angels and I know I'm a Defective Earth Angel.
anyway, I had to draw how I was feeling, like the feeling of wanting to go to both wing and sweater town and not come out of wing and sweater town for a while…or it could be called wing-sweater town…
and yes, I know that Flowey has pink eyes in this, it was on purpose. Sari is holding Andy from Red Vs Blue, and right next to her is Tucker's Son, who could have small bits of Human DNA even if he doesn't appear Human at all.
both Andy and Sari are right about Humans, some of them are Shisno but some of them aren't and don't act like a bunch of Shisno…
so in other words, for the Humans who don't act like a Shisno and aren't Shisno at all, it means there is still hope for Humans.
and hopefully some humans will try not to act like they are better than some who have a biracial or multiracial heritage, even if not all humans are like that…
but ya know it is still possible some are still out there, and are gonna insult some other humans and even humans who are earth angels who have a biracial or multiracial heritage.
and even if some humans don't mean to come off like it, like those who really mean it, they might not fully understand that they could insult and bring about not so great feelings to some.
I also think that even if I try to explain about it, it is likely my words will be misinterpreted…..
it wouldn't be the first time, though at least half of the time my words got misinterpreted, it wouldn't be as bad and I might be able to explain a bit better than how it first came out, so in other words some small misunderstandings are fine so long as they don't end up hurting someone's feelings in a very bad way.
but I know it is possible even if I try not to let some of my words get misinterpreted, it doesn't mean it wont still happen at times and the times that it does, there will be a chance my feelings will get hurt as well.
and yeah, it might be best that I don't get too into the whole why some are hating on Alastor, but I'm going to still hope that things work out the right way and he appears in many future episodes, well the future episodes he will appear in.
I know that in some shows, even some characters who are part of the main characters, will at times not appear in a episode but will in the next.
one of Alastor's powers is Radio Manipulation, and from the powerlisting fandom, there is a list of names that show what it is also called by…
like Radiofonokinesis, Radio Distortion, Radio Wave Manipulation/Control, Radio Frequency Manipulation/Control and just Radio Control.
even if I had that weird thing happen with one of the radios we have, which by the way I think it might only happen once in a while with me, so that might be a good thing.
and one of the other powers that Alastor has is being able to use tendrils, which is also listed in Darkness Manipulation, of course it says Applications and it has Darkness Solidification.
there is also something that says manipulate the properties of darkness/shadow.
and we could view in the episode Alastor first appears in, he was using both Radiofonokinesis and Umbrakinesis, which one of the other names of Darkness Manipulation would be Shadow Control/Manipulation, Erebokinesis, Dark Control/Manipulation, Sciakinesis and Achluokinesis and yeah also the Umbrakinesis.
and for all we know, the reason he could be so powerful is because in his human life, he was of the Nephilim Bloodline, even if not being a full Nephilim, but there are some Earth Angels who do come from the Nephilim Bloodline.
not like we can help that, we aren't our Nephilim Ancestors. and calling us (by me and others) who have RH Negative blood, and who have Nephilim Ancestors as just as evil and bad as them, is a foolish thing.
plus I can't help but wonder if Earth has been through a loop many times before, which has to do with what those Eon-Boomers and the harm it causes Omni-Mom.
like the whole "End of The World" may have happen many MANY like a lot of times before, and each time the Earth would go through a type of "rebirth" and go back to how it was before that mess happen. well hopefully that isn't true, well unless it happen in another timeline and we live in a new alternate branch of it…
I like this drawing, it might of help a bit more to get some feelings out, and yeah as weird as it might be, in the drawing, Alastor is using the pendulum to track and find a Earth Angel, which in Fanon (and Noncanon) could be seen as one of his abilities.
and even if it isn't a official title, I'm still gonna call myself The Embodiment of Weirdness. XD
well me being weird and silly is better than when I feel unhappy.
and I'm glad I feel better from how I felt yesterday, it sucked feeling like that...which I think when you have days when you feel a bit melancholy, that could be the 8th Sin for all we know...
and the best thing I think I can do when I get like that, is if maybe try to either sleep it off or maybe do some other stuff, like watching a movie or a show I like, or reading.
plus maybe gems can help with the feelings of melancholy, like you could feel that way at times but certain gems help heal it.
of course not everyone has to be open about the healing properties of gems. and I'm still keeping my gem bracelets on for the multi-purpose I use them for and only take them off when I truly need to.
I think the 8th Sin who is like the Embodiment of Melancholy, and the 8th Ring, would likely be Fanon and Not Canon in Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss.
so the 8th Ring and Embodiment Of Melancholy would be in like a Fanon AU version of the two shows.
Embodiment Of Melancholy, probably needs a nice and fluffy blanket around them, some comfort food, a nice movie to watch and if they want and give permission for it, a nice comforting hug.
even if I don't like to be touched sometimes, I don't mind getting a hug if that is truly what I want.
sometimes surprise hugs where I'm hug from behind, would likely startle me and I might not like it very much...even if some might not truly get why I might not like it but maybe some might get it if they feel the same about certain surprise hugs.
I think it was around last year/2023 or maybe it was 2022, that had one of my family members startle me when they hug me from behind...
anyway my angelsona in this drawing, mentioning about being under the 8th Sin's influence, just seem to fit because well I was feeling not great before but I think sleeping off and waking up to some stuff that made me a bit happy, may have helped.
anyway I hope some like this drawing, and understand why I put my angelsona self in wing-sweater town, because it was to express how I was feeling.
and yeah even if it isn't canon to Alastor's powers, I like the idea about him using Earth Angel Magic in the Fanon.
Viva La Weirdness, The Embodiment Of Weirdness Era! XD
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A little reflection on the Hazbin Hotel "situation"
First of all, i'm not really a fan of any of Vivziepop work, mainly i followed helluva boss out of curiosity and because sometimes they had really neat ideas.
that said, i ended up seeing all ofher stuff anyway, uhuh. i discovered her at the times of her sheika music videos, and, while not my cup of tea, i remained interested in her style of doing things, because of how unique it was. When the pilot for HH came out i saw it, and, as i said, HB too, plus all the covers and fan content.
So, this is my situation. i'm not really interested in her work and in her as a person, but i know her, her creations and all the stuff people made about them and talked about her, even if i didn't want to uhuh. You could say "just avoid everything Vivziepop related if you're not interested in her, her works and any discourse regarding all of it". i'm lazy, ok? the internet recommends it to me, i oblige. this is my curse.
Now, where i want to go with this.
Last week i rediscovered a video essayst i really liked, Neverknowsbest, and i put his latest two videos on while working and doing house chores. both are pretty relevant to this discussion, but i want to redirect you to one in particular:
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Even if you don't want to see it, the gist of it, and what of it i want to use in this post is:
We are obsessed with overwhelming failures and explosive successes, there's no room for just experiencing something, thinking of it as mediocre, or even bad, but then just moving on, while still enjoying, or loving even, the couple of good ideas it in it.
I don't like most of her work, i have heavy criticism of helluva boss, i agree on aaaaall the discussions about character design, and if half of the things people are saying about her as a creator, project director and person are true...then there is a very good chance i don't like her either uhuh.
that said, i think HH and HB should be treated as what they are: simple slef-indulgent shows about stupid/shitty people. this premise alone does not hold promise of quality, or good ideas; what it does hold is the desire of the creator to explore what it is fun and interesting for and not much else, and that i think is ok.
The fact that every HH episode so far has been met either with heavy criticism as if it promised to be the best adaption of the bible, or as the pinnacle of representation of traumetic events, to me is kinda stupid. not counting the prerelease discussion. You want to hurt the show? ignore it, stop talking about it, do what everyone did to that Lotr amazon show, make it lose money.
As i said, i do not particularly like HB and don't tink i would recommend it to anyone, but it is on the same level as a lot of shows i watched growing up, just with more swearing and trauma sprinkled in. And while saying this, i can recognize some parts of it that are really good, like some of the jokes, line delivery, sometimes animations and often the songs (i listened to a lot of covers of that one stolas song, uhuh).
All this to say, please, do not let the internet consume you uhuh. use all this energy for things that are truly bad, not things that are mediocre at best. That is unless you were one of those who funded the show, then you have every right to complain if your money is in it.
Plus, i wrote "situation" because, as usual, i'm sure all the fuss i've seen is mostly a minority on twitter or somwhere else, since already a friend of mine not correlated with this stuff at all out of nowhere told me he watched it and liked it, so.
P.S: i decided to use a banner for these rant posts so to make them more interesting, i hope you like it uhuh. also, anyone who tells you drawing chibis is simple is lying to you.
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Going anon here so I don't get harassed by the stans I read through the doc you made and it was really well made and you brought up SO much good shit Viv and her stans have this problem of bringing up unrelated issues to try and make the other party look bad (And most of it ain't even true) "Oh Erin came out and said the workplace was so bad that she never wanted to draw again? B-b-but guys she's a TERF, so don't listen to her!" Like what the hell??? I have the evidence saved in case someone tries to take it down, and you bet I will be sharing this More people need to know about Viv's abusive behavior, not just people on TikTok (Also I send my condolenscences to you. Being misgendered and called a "psychopath" is utterly disgusting, and I hope you're doing okay)
Best wishes to you and here's to the future!
FINALLY!!!!
Sorry for the outburst but- OH MY GOD you have no idea how long it took to find a way to make it so you guys could see those files and documents! Also, thank you for your condolences.
Vivziepop ableism, internalized homophobia, and racism needs to come to an end. Not just with Ayy Lmao, but her and her entire standom. People are allowed to support something without supporting someone's behavior. Even then, giving someone thousands of dollars in hopes that they'll pay their artists properly just for this to happen instead:
(More info on how she pays her workers and how indie artists are underpaid in studios overall based on the fact that the average is less than the average American pay in the full video of "The Vivziepop Archive Extravaganza" linked within the document itself.)
So yeah, the artists being "paid a little bit less than they should" at Spindlehorse is the underestimation of the centurty. The studio gets millions daily, yet there are still people there that have to work at goddamn Starbucks. That's horrible!
So im planning to maybe make a instructional video on how to not give views to creators you enjoy but don't want to support. It's not like it's going to the other artists really in the first place. Only the lead artists who say things like this:
(This was confirmed to be VIvienne's real discord on her own Twitter by the way. Go see for yourself. It's there. She's transphobic.)
The reason why this is wrong speaks for itself.
(HINT: R^pe is something that severely traumatizes and hurts people and making light of the act itself like this is actually sickening.
-and the main creators also like things such as this:
Yeah...
I think now's a good time to speak with our wallets and our views so that those mistreated will finally move on to better studios and that Vivziepop's reign of toxicity upon the internet will finally come to an end.
So if you wan't to buy merch... buy fan merch!
If you wan't to watch a Helluva Boss episode, another hated Youtuber, etc:
1. Right click on a video from a youtuber that you don't like, for example: Onision.
2. (IMPORTANT!) Press "Copy Link Address."
3. Go to a trustworthy Youtube downloader.
4. -and bam! No views given, but you still get to enjoy the past episodes while making it so Spindlehorse can finally get the message that you do not support Vivziepop or her leads's behavior, and Youtube as a whole will finally get the message that the majority of people do not wan't to support toxic creators.
That is all it takes.
That, or film the video on Bandicam, make it a zip file, and then send it to whoever wants to download the video. -and done! You just DID NOT support Onision! Now try this with any other (big) creator that you have a problem with! Let's make Youtube a better place together. :)
#helluva boss#helluva boss criticism#vivziepop#vivziepop criticism#anti vivziepop#anti onision#anti toxic creators#tw onision mention#tw onision#tw rape mention#tw nsfl
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And no, this won’t cost me $50,000
You may recognize VivziePop from Helluva Boss, but their main bread and butter is Hazbin Hotel. From the pilot, Amazon got the rights to it and gave them 8 episodes to work with for Season 1. While I already know most of what is gonna happen, I still haven’t seen the episode properly. Luckily Prime Video has the first episode free to see on youtube. Off the bat, the Pilot is slightly longer than the original, so I suspect most will be the same but some things cut.
It begins with the origin of Heaven and Hell. Sort of similar to your Christian Ideology, but various differences. For starters, there seems to be no god. Tons of Angels but they seem to be the one in charge of everything. They created Adam and not Eve but Lilith. Lucifer and Lilith wanted to give Humanity Free Will, by using the Apple that in the Bible was from the Tree of Knowledge.
So this allowed Evil to exist apparently and the two were sent to the newly formed hell. While Lucy was giving up since he can only see the bad they do, Lilith was helping the citizens of hell prosper. But this caused Heaven to fear Hell and created an extermination squad to decrease the surplus population there. So while Lilith is gone, Charlie (her daughter) has the dream of helping Hell.
So off the bat, with the knowledge I know, this definitely sounds like a “Winners History”. I’ll leave this as a Research Bin Subject for now and continue the recapping. So Charlie is talking to Vaggie and we find out Lilith is gone for seven years now (and spoilers, relaxing in Heaven). But apparently Alastor has something for them. Okay, the first episode is actually after the Pilot. Good to know.
He made a commercial and it's as degrading as you can imagine a commercial to be. Like imagine the “we’re not Detroit” commercial without that upside. So a commercial for Detroit (just kidding). They weren’t a fan of it. So it is a week after the Pilot. Angel makes a suggestion and it's porn. They shoot it down. So sometime later, apparently the leader of the Angel Army wants to meet up and Charlie’s daddy suggests for her to do it. Cue song.
Eh, the first song doesn’t do it for me but I can imagine others liking it. Honestly it's hard to compare when Moon Girl Season 2 had a killer soundtrack that’s more my speed. At the Angel Building, we see Charlie meet Adam, the first man. He’s pretty much the big reason my Research Bin subject on this is going to be about what I think of this interpretation of the Afterlife.
So while Charlie deals with Adam, Vaggie suggests making a better commercial. It goes as you can imagine people who think they can’t be redeemed and Niffty being Niffty. And speaking of Charlie, it also goes as badly as you think as Adam is all about saying that Hell is Forever. Things turn around for Vaggie at least since she made a deal with Alastor to have a commercial be good in exchange for him never having to interact with Television. And in bad news, instead of a year it’ll be six months till the next extermination.
And before the commercial could air, breaking news tells the others the bad news. But there may be more to this than Adam being a jerk. They found a dead angel. They’re not going in now because they don’t want to alert the demon who was able to do that. Still six months. Overall, it is an interesting start. Charlie is hopeful, Vaggie helps bring her down to Earth (in a manner of speaking) and so far I do enjoy the other characters not from Heaven.
With what happens later, I know more questions and answers will appear but will it actually make it to the End of the Year List? Who knows. It is just 8 episodes.
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Seeing how randomized and varied they are, its clear that the background characters had an entirely different designer. Every single one has a different design. Funny too, because theres shots that end up making me ignore the main characters and look at the background ones. They’re that eyecatching. Which is a huge problem (as ive said in my design video)- because they’re meant to blend in!
While the main characters- blend in!
I dont even notice Blitz, I see Lyle and his buddy because of the blues and greens!
Hell, the only reason why I remember Blitz is because he’s shown a ton. But if he wasnt, I wouldnt be able to imagine what he looks like, just the background fish!
People keep talking about how much Viv’s improved, meanwhile, outside of the line art and animation smoothness, everything actually looks worse than her old art!
Look- Viv’s designs used to be actually decent and nicely colored, what happened?! (As ive seen its only after 2015 that her “same face” or “overly detailed” issue became prevalent.)
Her older art from 2014 and below in general felt so much more polished :(
People keep saying “you only talk about negatives!” But here’s the thing- those kinds of of people mostly make up shit with headcannons to feed into their denial- while trying to look at the show itself causes thousands of negatives. Especially in this case, as if Viv tried a little bit harder, they all could have looked unique or better yet, more nice to look at! Her old designs show this very clearly.
At least with Vivziepop, at least she tried to look more unique with him! Even more so than the main characters of her franchise.
Even the robot one was more recognize-able!
Its sad, because Vivziepop has so much potential, she just doesn’t feel like she needs to try that much because her fans will eat up her content regardless of quality. She could turn these all into stick figures, and (most of) her stans would still eat it up and lick her boots over it because it’s “indie” (hell, that would ironically be better since at least the animators would be treated better.) its so parasocial, and it makes me feel like all the extra work/overworking is wearing her out, and yet- her fandom supports her doing two whole shows at the same time. Its so sad, honestly.
So much potiential out the window 😢
Another issue I have when it comes to Viv’s character designs is the lack of variety when it comes to design aesthetic.
She clearly has an affinity for formal wear and 2000′s pop punk/emo fashion, but it ends up making everything feel samey.
Why does every male character feel like they’re competing with each other to see who will be crowned the Ultimate Tumblr Sexyman?
Say what you will about Striker and Veroskia as villains, but at least their aesthetics stood out. Yes, Striker is just a generic old west cowboy, but his design is a breath of fresh air when compared to the other male characters.
Same thing goes for Veroskia, sure she’s just another sexy succubus, but the pop star aesthetic actually compliments her character, instead of just feeling like something that’s only there because Viv thinks it looks cool.
A lot of people have pointed out how the background incidentals have better character designs than the main cast, and I think that’s because Viv wasn’t all that involved when it came to designing them. She probably told the character designers “Hey, we need x amount of background characters for these scenes, go nuts” and left it at that.
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So I didn’t get around to watching Hazbin Hotel’s accompanying music video “Addict” until just now.
That was a mistake. HOW is the music and animation Vivziepop releases so consistently awesome?? This is so catchy I’ve watched it three times in a row (it turns out the credits are not the end and there’s an important section after).
I’m suddenly much more invested in Angel Dust as a character, and looking forward to a Hazbin Hotel series now that it’s been picked up by A24. I hope they do it justice.
(Vivziepop’s other series Helluva Boss still has my heart, though. The pilot was wickedly funny, dark and edgy and with impeccable comic timing; I would not have guessed that nine episodes in I care about these horrible violent people so very much and want them to be happy. Or that the music would hit Broadway-soundtrack quality, or that the animation would get THAT good.)
If you’re interested in animation for an adult audience, I highly recommend giving both shows a look.
“Addict” music video (cw: sex work, substance abuse, implied assault)
Hazbin Hotel pilot (cw: sex work, cartoony violence, slow start)
Helluva Boss pilot (cw: references to sex, cartoony violence, all the profanity, That Owl)
Helluva Boss beautiful song clip to prove that I am not crazy, which you might well think after watching the pilot
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Character Study Angel Dust and Valentino Relationship
This will be a post will be a look on Vizepop’s newest music video for Hazbin Hotel “addict as well as a deep dive of Angel Dust and Valentino Relationship!
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Alright full disclosure Hazbin Hotel is an adult cartoon meant for a mature audience and the subject matter is very dark despite it’s cheery outlook so if you’re very sensitive to this type of subject or under age please think before you watch the video and also this post will contain dark subject matter on abuse as well. Okay with all that out of the way please enjoy it’s review time!
First of all this music video is incredible but what’s even more amazing is the character building for Angel Dust and for Valentino. It shows how toxic and abusive Val is to Angel but it showcase his friendship with Cherri. At the start of the dance Angel's face is not just looking towards the audience, he's clearly looking at someone specifically, in the audience making. Especially with that hair flip he does. He’s doing this for someone one... and then we get a fantastic cut away to Valentino and it is bone chilling.
He’s doing this for Val he wants to be special to him; the way Val’s sun glasses frame Angel silhouette shows how he’s trapped because wants to be loved by him. It should also be noted during this part of the song “I think I deserve some praise...” Also alludes how starved for affection Angel Dust is and wants that praise from Val specifically. But this is how Val keeps Angel Dust under his control in a sense of that he’ll receive it if he’s “good” and does what he says. We get more symbolism of this when Valentino blows smoke towards Angel Dust. And it’s in the shape of a heart that’s being blown towards Angel and is wrapped around him.
In a sense he’s kind of blowing Angel a kiss...
Not only that but the fact that it’s smoke also shows how fickle Val’s love is for Angel Dust is. It can disappear and go away at any moment, and that’s why Angel so desperate and tries so hard to obtain it. And the way the smoke wraps around Angel shows Val’s love it’s more like a chain and leash. Though it makes us wonder “why does he love Val”, and how did he end up working for him. Though we actually get an answer during his song Angel Dust when starts he sings about his past and how he got to hell.
This scene in the when Angel Dust sings “Despite having overdose and ending up coma-toasted...” giving backstory on how Angel dust died. From Vivziepop (and the Hazbin Hotel wiki) we know he has comes from a Mafia family and has a bad relationship with most of his family members (who are in hell). Which may have been the reason why he started doing drugs (so he had a rough life). Initial he looks distraught and saddened about mentioning but it’s only when the smoke wraps around him and point his towards Val he smiles continues to “...I don’t give a damn~” locks eyes on to Val which cuts away to Val wickedly smiling being very pleased.
What this sequence tells us is Angel while being very sad about his past he doesn’t care about it now because he has Val; he made him forgot about his sorrows! Right there is where we have our answer, he views as his savior. It implies that Valentino maybe the one that found Angel Dust and “saved him” but in reality to take advantage of him in a weakened state. That’s why Val has an evil grin when he hears Angel sing that, he knows this and as long as he has that card to play he’ll always have a reason to have Angel stay. Which is a real thing an actually abuser does; they use things they’ve done for you as a trump card when there is an argument or guilt trip you into staying with them or forgiving them. Maybe the reason he has stayed with Val for so long...
Why does he seem unimpressed...
I don’t want to go over every piece of lyrics but he basically goes on singing he gives up on the idea of trying to be good and sober accepting that this is his the rest of his life. Ready and very willing live his live like this as he is now to gestures out to Valentino “your playing with now til the end of the night” as he looks confused to this (I’ll get to why I pointed this out). Willing to live on this “heaven and hell high” going on to sing “ he’s addicted to the madness...”and then it then flashes to him in a crying being comforted by Cherri in his room. I believe this is a flash forward after the show when Angel went home. It is clear he’s sad but also angry at himself... Not only that but Valentino may have done something awful to him...
Earlier I pointed out he was gesturing to Valentino because he’s willing to give Val everything because Angel actually love Val during it... and that’s what angers him (Val doesn’t want to be an item with Angel). And during those moments flashing of with Cherri it shows that he’s going to regret that choice, foreshadowing somethings going to happen leading up to this... Angel’s not addicted to his life style and I think deep down he doesn’t want it in reality he’s saying he’s addicted to Valentino. And he knows very well he’s not treating him right and he’s bad for him. That’s the scary thing about being in an abusive relationship despite being poorly treated you and wanting to leave you can’t. You can’t help but remember the good moments where they show you affection that makes you think its worth saying. And this next scene I think happened before Angel went home with Val (I assume that he’s the one driving Angel Dust home in this scene). This scene just show how much of a scumbag Val and how he really sees Angel.
What he’s really cares about is the money that Angel Dust makes not Angel himself, he’s clearly an after thought not even giving him a second glance. Angel is obviously upset at waiting in the wing for Val to pay attention to him. The two girls making out (yes they’re important) Angel can’t even look at them and makes sure he’s looking the other way... Because Angel was hoping that Val would show him some love too but no the first thing he does is check how much he made. And he put in so much effort in the show just for Val and impress him too. You’d assume he’d thank and praise him the amazing show he put on and that performance was especially for Valentino. Though the way he’s just calmly containing his disappointment and anger shows that this is not the first time he’s done this to him just leaving him on the back burner. Just in a sighing slouch and in his head he’s probably thinking “what the hell was I to expect” or “why the hell am I not surprised... “
“Oh Angel didn’t see you there...”
And only when Val finishes counting all the money does he pull in Angel for a kiss, this pretty much saying “Oh Angel, you made me so much money I can reward you now...” making his love very conditional. And the way he snaps his neck up “oh sorry didn’t see you there...” as if he just remembered him now. He doesn’t love Angel he only loves that money that he brings in. I have think that Angel Dust only tries to be “the best” in porn studios so that he can stay on Val’s radar. But I think at this point in the relationship Angel just experience so much of the abuse and neglect from Val he just expects it. He is just unimpressed and he just drained from all of this. Which tells us two things one Angel Dust may have been under Vals thumb for years and Angel is at his wits end. The expression on Angel Dust face is practically saying “Oh you notice me now” when Val finally starts paying attention to him and Angel just wants to be special to him. And clearly wants to be something more to him than one of his hoes... he’s coming to the realization that may not never get that. He’s just a toy to him something that he can play with and toss out.
This scene just makes me so sad... when Val forces Angel into the kiss seconds before (if you look carefully) you can see Angel he really was leaning in for the kiss and closing his eyes so he can enjoy it. Showing apart of him really loved Valentino and he wanted this so badly; for his love & affection this just breaks my heart. Val managed to manipulate him to the point that where he thinks he truly loves him. The reason why Val wants to kiss Angel Dust because he thinks one kiss is all he needs to make Angel stay with him. You can see the gears slowly turning in his head, he’s catching on... aware of his mistreatment...this kiss is damage control. But you can see in Angel Dust’s eye he’s questioning “is it worth it...” now Angel starting to get the full picture, even if Val wants him he doesn’t care for him and tries to stop Val before he gets sucked in again. He’s had enough and this maybe the first time Angel rejected his advancements, that’s why Valentino is angry in a sense “you’ve never disobeyed me before”, and when an abuser loses control that’s when they start getting physically violent; this maybe the tipping point of when the abuse started to escalate. And we don’t know what happened after it just flashes them going to the Porn Studio.
Which cuts to him throwing fit... after something happens and it’s so heartbreaking cause he clearly blames himself. And just sinks down on to the floor and cries into his hands. We don’t know hat happened but we get our answer... near the end of the song we have Angel Dust at the Hazbin Hotel to now. Where he smoking just like Val he smokes a heart but it’s a broken one and it saying he’s addicted to the sorrow. Meaning he has given up on the idea of Valentino really loving him with him singing “...when the buzz ends by tomorrow” and he’s singing about the love he had for Valentino is gone it was good for a while he had it but now he has to deal with the price of being “addicted to that drug...or getting involved with Val in this case.”
Now he deal “with the poison in his vain” talking about the trauma he received from Valentino... That night he raped Angel Dust in the studio I had a screen shot of the shot of him with Valentino but I though it would be too dark. And he’s clearly dealing with aftermath of the pain and trauma of the relationship and dealing with the scars of it. Which is why there’s a flash of seeing Val in the mirror for a second. But “he’s dependent on Valentino” and has nothing but fear for him now; blames himself and his naivety believing that Val would love him. Before Val’s love was Angel’s drug, it made him feel happy and forget his troubles but eventually that high went down. Loving Valentino ended up hurting and damaging him even more.. and has a new pain that’s hurting him. It’s sad because this is what victims do sometimes they blame themselves. Angel did nothing wrong the poor guy he was manipulated and he’s to the point where Val had made him trapped now.
Which shows the real reason why he wants to stay in the hotel so he won’t have to be so dependent of Val. Slowly but surely try to get better because in the Hazbin Hotel he still working for Val but it living in the hotel. Though the way he pushes of Charlie he’s clearly trying to hide the pain he suffer especially with how he cares himself. Pretending to be carefree and cheerful which makes it so painful to watch him force himself to be happy. I just love Angel Dust so much he’s just so precious!
PLEASE SAVE HIM ALREADY!
Okay hope you all enjoy the post
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Blitzwing, Three Gems & Crossover Madness Of Fun (2023)
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Credit for Tenchi Muyo Series goes to Masaki Kajishima
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Credit for The Owl House goes to Dana Terrace
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at first this was going to be a crossover with Blitzwing, Spinel, Pink-Pearl and Padaparacha...
but then I decided to add more to it, and added some other cartoon and video game characters into it.
also when playing Fallout 4, I really like to use the baseball bat to fight with, so that is why Nora from the Fallout 4 game, is holding a bat and seems to be keeping a eye out for danger...and yeah even if it isn’t canon, in this drawing, Husk has a little crush on Nora...
also Husk has a Cabbit on his head, well the hat he is wearing, and the Cabbit is Ryo-Ohki...
the little robot that is floating above Sundrop & Moondrop’s heads, is Pyoro from Vandread.
in The Cuphead Show, Cuphead & Mugman are twin brothers...
so if those two twins in the show, would that mean they are twin brothers in the canon of the game world of Cuphead...?
Raven from Teen Titans Go, is holding a sign with her magic...
that shows that Teen Titans Go should stop at Season 8...
I hope I can watch Villainous in it’s place someday, I mean even if it is just wishful thinking and hope it does happen one day...
Sallie May x Collin is in this Crossover drawing as well, if they ever got married in a Fanon Timeline, that would make Moxxie and Collin....brother-in-laws.
Lancer is wearing a crown and is holding on to Husk’s wing, it be cute if he ended up calling Husk “Cat-Dad”, like him adopting Husk as his third father figure.
of course when I was first working on this drawing, I had to at some point go to sleep, but then once I did wake back up I went back to working on this drawing.
the geth in this drawing is Legion, and Tali is a much better character once she accepts the geth, and maybe when she finally realizes that the quarians aren’t victims, since they started the mess first, and they were the ones who just assume that the geth would attack first, even if some quarians did try to help the geth and got k*lled for it....
but some of the quarians who fully blame the geth for being driven from their home world, are just being a bunch of shisno.
I wonder what a crossover ship between Caboose from Red Vs Blue and Legion from Mass Effect would be like...?
maybe it be more platonic, and Caboose would view Legion as his best friend, and if Tali ever talked bad about Legion, it could have Caboose tell her off by saying “now Miss Tali, I will have to ask you to stop being a Mean Lady to my best friend Legion....you are being very hurtful, nobody likes a shisno.”
I know there are some fans who 100% love Tali, I just don’t agree with her view on how the geth are the ones who are the “bad guys” when it was some of the quarians who started it in the first place.
I still think the Ralsei that appears in Chapter 2, and might of switched places with the real one when King was about to hurt Kris but was stop by Susie.
both Ralsei are different heights, the original has smaller horns and smaller feet than the one that is in the party in Chapter 2.
it’s my theory and fan headcanon that the Ralsei that went with Kris to the Card Kingdom, is not only trapped in the Card Kingdom but was replaced by the Other-Ralsei, who locked both the Door that takes Kris and their party out of Castle Town to Card Kingdom, and even locked it’s light world counterpart that is in the unused classroom, making sure Susie and Kris wont end up back in the Card Kingdom and find out the Ralsei they befriended is still trapped there.
don’t know if that theory will turn out to be true and fully canon, but if it turns out it isn’t, it can always be used in the fanon.
oh and the Other-Ralsei is using the Green Soul to keep the True-Ralsei trap in a green energy box.
now I’m going to go eat some pizza and watch some Transformers Animated, before I go back to checking out some more fan art on here.
#crossover fanart#blitzwing tfa#pink pearl su#spinel su#padparascha su#lloyd garmadon#pythor p chumsworth#blackhat villainous#cuphead#bendy the little devil darling#commander peepers#sallie may helluva boss#collin helluva boss#nora fallout 4#husk hazbin hotel#legion mass effect#lancer deltarune#gregory fnaf#ayano aishi#zim invader zim#the grim adventures of billy and mandy fanart#Invader Zim Fanart#vandread fanart#ryo-ohki#tenchi muyo fanart#sundrop fnaf#moondrop fnaf#teen titans go#raven teen titans#dragon quest fanart
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Well, it's been two years since Hazbin Hotel entered my life. Time to reflect on how my experience with it came to be.
It's a long one btw.
I have to confess that without Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, I would've abandoned this blog (and only mode of social media) some time after Steven Universe and SPOP ended.
Back then with a minuscule number of followers (around 69 at the time) in mid 2020 I thought for a long time that if I reblogged art which had a few notes it wouldn't have made a difference compared to popular users reblogging the same art. I was also reluctant to reblog popular fanart back in the day because if my very few followers had possibly seen and liked/reblogged said art why should I bother doing so? Back then I was attempting to make shitposts, plot guesses, and new episode titles & summary reports and hope that people would see and like it.
But back when there was drama surrounding Hazbin Hotel and its creator (which still persists to this day sadly) I initially stayed away from it, worrying that I may end up possibly liking it and have feelings of shame and fear (from people who would be surprised and pissed if I talked about it in a positive way on their dash). But the urge to see the pilot grew more and more stronger every day (especially when during that time I was enjoying Thundercats Roar as a guilty pleasure). So one day I decided to check the video and judge it for myself.
And it pulled me in.
Its world, aesthetic, characters, and humorous lines & moments got my brain working like crazy to imagine which demon would do this and what happens when a sinner did that and how society in Hell (especially comparing Pride to the other rings) and Heaven would be like in a regular day.
Initially it became my guilty pleasure but gradually it became my unashamed fixation, with Angel Dust as my main blorbo. And when it came to reblogging art I first had the Hazbin posts set to private and sandwiched between SPOP fanart before deprivatizing them when they're in the second page of the blog (or close to it) so it wouldn't shock followers. But then one day I decided to just reblog them out in the open (nowadays it's just queuing them) no longer having the fear of shame looming over me. It also led me to reblogging fanart of other blorbos (mainly Aaravos and Horde Prime). Being in a small fandom on this site with the fanart-reblogging along with the memes and incorrect quotes and other shitposting I've made relating to the Hellaverse (and The Owl House the next year) slowly but surely I gained new followers (and even mutuals) which made time spent on this blog worthwhile. I'm almost back to the 420 follower mark as of this writing.
And in two years I've went from 5 posts in drafts to 1000 in 2020 to 2000 in 2021 to 7000+ this year! Packed with fanart. Some popular while others haven't reached the 100 (or 500) note mark.
So in a span of two years I went from an insecure nobody to at least a somebody who's somewhat still insecure. All thanks to Hazbin Hotel.
So thank you @vivziepop , for your work. Can't wait to see what the future brings for your two shows. But I'll be patient. Get well soon on your break.
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