#Misoginy in comics

[shamelesstragedyenjoyer]

My roman empire is how Stephanie Brown was fired from being Robin for doing something her male counterparts would have easily gotten away with

"Screaming birds sound an awful lot like singing [...] But you seem to be enjoying The fruits of my labour that came to me too young

When he took my virtue I'm glad it seems to serve you

That I was born a daughter and not a son"

-The Fruits (Paris Paloma)

[jwitless]

In the first half of your life they tell you what’s wrong with you, in the second half you try to fix it 🤷🏻‍♀️

[jesncin]

Sons of Mars refs and nods pt2

Compilation of research, references, and nods Sons of Mars pulled from the comics!

This younger design of Ma'al takes reference from Ma'alefa'ak's original outfit design with the single shoulder pad, gold chains, and boots. I mostly took from the JLA: Classified (issue 43) design (written by Justin Gray, art by Rick Leonardi and Sean Philips).

The Burning Martian is from JLA 1997 (issue 84-89): Trial by Fire (written by Joe Kelly, drawn by Doug Mahnke). In that story, J'onn overcomes his fear of fire, but it turns him into an ancient raging evil fire creature that pre-dates the green and white martians. For our story, we took that concept and applied it to Ma'al.

The comics establish Ma'al as the only martian immune to fire, but the concept isn't really taken advantage of, and we wanted to push it further by linking him to the Burning Martians.

Ma'al being crafty with chemicals and inventing while working in a lab all day is a lil nod to his origin story too :)

H'ronmeer's curse! A staple to most of J'onn's origin's stories- it's a fire virus that wipes out all the martians, usually (but not always) invented by Ma'alefa'ak. In our version, H'ronmeer's curse is more like a really intense hysteria-storm instead of a killer virus.

D'kay D'razz is from Brightest Day: All This Useless Beauty (written by Geoff Johns and Peter J Tomasi, art by Patrick Gleason, Scott Clark, Ivan Reis, Jo Prado). She's a scientist who was imprisoned for proposing an inhumane method for tracking down and purging non-telepath Martians (or at least martians who "could only read minds but not be read by other martians").

J'onn menacingly meeting D'kay is a homage to how he meets her in Brightest Day.

D'kay's motivation to basically eugenically "fix" disabled Martians is pulled straight from Brightest Day! We wanted to echo how D'kay violates other martians for truth and transparency in our story too.

Considering the themes of disability and eugenics being a part of both Ma'alefa'ak and D'kay's stories, I'm surprised these two characters haven't been in some way paired in a narrative to bounce off of each other before.

Little nod to In my Life (pt 3) in the caption box :)

Some of the architecture and flora near the Temple of the Great Mind is inspired off of the martian flashbacks in Dark Knights of Steel (written by Tom Taylor, art by Yasmine Putri).

That's all I can fit into this post! One more post coming up covering the final scenes :>

Pt 1 | Pt 2 | Pt 3

[rey-jake-therapist]

Hob Gadling's wives and girlfriends, the forgotten women of The Sandman

DISCLAIMER: the following posts contains major spoilers for Season of Mists, World's Ends, The Kindly Ones and The Wake.

A couple of weeks I told @writing-for-life my next meta would be about the women who shared Hob's life. There's not much to work on in the comics for most of them, but the fact remains that they exist and that Hob probably loved them all. And his second wife in particular, Margaret/Peggy aka Jim, had a story dedicated to her journey, in World's Ends.

Hob's canon romances always interested me because these women were all mortals, while he was not. We know he had at least one kid who died, and he saw almost all his lovers/wives die while knowing he would never follow them in the grave unless he wanted it. We didn't see it happen with Gwen, but it will, eventually.

It makes me wonder: how does he do it? How does he manage to be completely invested in a relationship knowing that the people he loves will all grow old and die, while he will stay the same and live forever? I would have loved it if the comics had him discussing that, and I still hope in the show he will. We never saw what his last conversation with Hob was, after all... I like to think that Dream stayed a bit longer than usual with Hob, and that they opened up about their respective lives and experiences with love. Audrey is still alive and probably in Hob's life at this point, it would be nice if she showed up, met Dreams and asked him embarrassing questions... but I digress haha

Before I continue I'd like to confess that not being a shipper, I don't read Dreamling fics - I rarely read fics revolving a ship in general... I prefer Morpheus x oc or non romantic fics -, so any comment I can make about the fandom is based on what I see on social media, and not on fanfic contents. I'm sure that Hob's wives and girlfriends are often evoked and maybe sometimes, even more developed there than they are in canon.

Hob's first wife: Eleanor

Eleanor's just a portrait, we don't know much about her except that Hob probably cared about her since in the show he still calls her "my Eleanor" long after she died.

She exists only to show that Hob's situation stabilized after he started making money. Also, their son's death and hers may have been the first time that it hit Hob in the head that while he could live forever, he couldn't prevent his loved ones from dying. The loss of his family affected him very much and yet, he still wanted to live. I'll probably write a meta later about how his situation purposely mirrors Morpheus', about how they both lost everything they loved at some point but reacted in a completely different manner.

Hob's second wife: Peggy/Jim

We meet Margaret/Peggy/Jim in World's End. She pretends to be a man hence why she calls herself Jim, as she did during all the trip during which she met Hob Gadling. It's quite obvious that she did it for safety issues, as she would have probably not been allowed to travel on a boat let alone work on one if she had revealed as girl without a chaperon, and she clearly enjoyed the freedom and advantages she got as passing for a man. It's good to emphasize how brave she was to do that, as if her secret had gone out it could have put her in great danger.

Hob was the only one who saw through her, but he protected her secret. He also confirmed her doubts that he was much older than he seemed, a secret she protected as well. It seems she never believed he was immortal though - see the part about Audrey - .They bonded over having secrets they could possibly not reveal to anyone else, so it's a really sweet love story.

Later, in The Kindly Ones, we learn that Peggy died in his arms, during the Blitz. If they had kids, he doesn't say, but it's obvious he loved her very much and was deeply affected by her death, as he says on Audrey's grave, in The Kindly Ones, that Audrey's the first woman he was with since Peggy died.

Now I know that certain fans want Peggy to be trans or non-binary because she disguises as a man and asks to be called Jim. It's generally not as much because they care about her character or representation,than because it would make Hob canonically queer. Now I have no problem with anyone's headcanons: there are no right or wrong headcanon, no stupid or offensive ones - as long as they're not hateful, homophobic, racist, transphobic etc. - and whatever makes people feel represented and happy is fine by me. That said, I personally believe it's a bit simplistic to reduce a woman's refusal to follow societal norms to her being a man or non-binary, but again, whatever floats your boat guys.

I personally think that Peggy/Jim was written as a strong young woman who wanted to travel and see the world, knew she couldn't do that if she was seen as a woman, so she disguised as a man, took a man's name and enjoyed the role because let's be honest: the life for white men during this period was wayyyyyy funnier and easier than for women. What do you mean, it still is? I don't understand, are you saying institutional patriarchy is still very much a thing? *pretends to be shocked*.

You can find many stories like Peggy/Jim's in modern literature, and of course, in real life!

As for Hob, he knew Peggy was a woman quite early, and when he talks about her on Audrey's grave he says "Peg' ", not "Jim", which tells me he kept seeing her as a woman. But again, that's my headcanon and I won't argue about that, I just feel like Peggy/Jim deserves better than being discussed solely regarding Hob's sexuality. Her story is one of my favorite in the comics :)

Talking about the particular subject of Hob's sexuality is immortal and even though the comics doesn't mention any male boyfriend, he seems open minded and hedonistic enough to have at least tried... I always headcanoned Hob Gadling as pansexual, because it doesn't make sense to me that a man who lived for hundred of years would be straight, simply.

I really hope that the show will give us Peggy/Jim's story on screen, she highly deserves it. I love this character, I just wish it would be clearer in the comics that she's the future Mrs Gadling... I learned through social media that the Peg' he mentioned on Audrey's grave was the Peggy he met in World's Ends. It's very confusing, the way it's written.

Hob Gadling's girlfriends

We of course don't know every girlfriend that Hob had, in the comics we're just introduced to two: Audrey, and Gwen. We learn a couple of other names in The Kindly Ones though: Lisabet and Anne.

Audrey

Audrey's another woman who's never part of the conversations, yet the panel dedicated to Hob's reaction to her death is the first panel that made Hob sympathetic to me. But whenever this panel is discussed, everything that's related to Audrey is ignored so the focus is entirely on Hob's concern for Morpheus. Before I read the comics, I had no idea that Hob had just buried his lover, and begged Morpheus to resurrect her because the pain of losing her was too hard to handle.

A bit like for Margaret/Peggy/Jim, it's not clear at all that in Season of Mists, the woman we see with Hob in bed is Audrey, the woman whose grave he visits in The Kindly Ones.

It's really in The Kindly Ones that we can see how much he cared for Audrey, as he cared for all the lovers he had before but died. The reaction he has, he admits it himself, responds to a question we probably all asked: does he ever get used to it? Become insensitive, with time?

The answer's no:

I always wondered why Morpheus visited him at this moment: was it because he felt his pain and wanted to be here for him? Or was it because he wanted to say one last goodbye and it happened to coincide with the moment Hob was drowning in his grief? Was it because he himself needed a friend, more than ever?

Anyway he certainly didn't expect Hob's request. For the first time that we know of, Hob asked Dream to use his supernatural powers. Hob, the immortal who saw all the people he knew die, not only wasn't used to it but asked Dream basically the same thing as Orpheus asked him: help him to get his lover back. It must have been very painful for Dream, but poor Hob couldn't know that. I doubt he even knew that Dream had once been married and had a son.

So yeah, afterwards he runs after Morpheus and tries to make him confide in him, he even feels his friend's death is imminent and he shows a deep concern, but that's not all that this panel is about. I think it's about saying that no matter how old you are, how many lives you lived, how many people you loved and loved you.... The death of a loved one is always painful.

2. Gwen

Gwen is Hob's last girlfriend that we know of. She's also, in his own admission, the first Black woman he dates. Considering that Hob used to be an enthusiastic slave trader who needed an ethereal entity to tell him that slavery was wrong to think that he should find another way to become rich, I find this information.... interesting. After 600 years, it was about time... did he refuse to date Black women because of guilt for what he did? Or because he remained racist for a long time and didn't think Black women were worth his attention?

I feel very protective of Gwen, first because I dislike how she was written as a moral caution for Hob, as she absolves him for his sins but without knowing the extent of his sins - she has no idea he's immortal and was a slave trader - . When she appears in the show - and I really hope she will! - , I hope she'll be written in a way that she doesn't exist solely for Hob to express his guilt while being too coward to tell her the truth about what he did.

I was going to say something very personal about me, but I'm not sure the comparison I want to make would work, so I prefer keeping it for me, finally. If anyone's interested in knowing me better they can join me in private though :)

The second reason why I'm very protective of her is that as Audrey, on social media she's generally treated as non existent by the fandom - who focuses entirely on Hob's grief regarding Morpheus' death - . I recently saw a wish regarding Gwen that made my blood boil and almost made me hit the 'deactivate' button, but I'm not here to start a war, let alone to point fingers. I just really wish some people paid more attention to what they wrote, because some stuff I've read these last days came off as very insensitive.

And I'll conclude with one last panel featuring the gorgeous Gwen:

Also tagging @violetoftheendless and @tickldpnk8 , in case you're interested in discussing this subject :)

[paranormeow7]

phenomenon I see on here a lot. if any tumblr users come in and reply to this with “WOW THIS IS SO ME LOL” you are proving my point

[kryptonbabe]

There's this thing about making it my hobby to look for oddities from the past, pulp fiction, old comics books, old movies, silent serials, peculiar products from the past century etc, and that is I'm always in contact with other people who enjoy the same kind of things, but are completely on the other side of the political and social spectrum - I'm a black queer socialist teacher born in the 90s in South America - but not rarely I find myself talking to and exchanging archives, images, links etc, with usually older, white guys with right wing inclinations, only figuring their political views way later, which is kind of shocking at first, but in reality I am probably the odd one in that interaction.

I enjoy getting lost in the past, but I have no nostalgia for it, the world might be awful today, but we have way more information about it and queer, black people like me have way more chances to live a fulfilling life. I'm fascinated by how culture was shaped and its popular and obscure ramifications, what brought us here today. When I read old comic books with racist overtones or misogynistic narratives it is not because I long for the good old times, but because I'm interested in the past so we don't repeat it, their absurdity can often be laughable as well as informative. I'm curious about how things were perceived in other times, how we told stories and how queer, racialized people and other minorities would find a way to have a voice even in this repressive past.

There's lots of interesting things about the culture from the past centuries and there's nothing wrong with feeling nostalgic for your own life and missing when your perceptions in life were simpler, it can be a sweet escape in a crushing reality, but those were not the good old days for everyone.

[squids-comics]

"Stop sounding like my wife woman I married literally two issues ago. Get me a gun!"

This dialogue sounds like it would be more in place coming from Ant Man than Mr Fantastic. The 60's in comics has been hard to get through so far because of how many little crumbs of misogyny or racism or giant chunks of anti-communism there are sprinkled through out.

The thing that worries me most about my continued Marvel journey is that the problems not gonna go away. Even modern comics still have problems like this sometimes, just less glaringly obvious. I love comics with all my heart, and I always will, I just wish they could be more inclusive and accepting.

Anyways, sorry for the rant. I've been bottling these feelings up since I dropped Ant Man's series because of his treatment of Wasp. Next comic post will be happier!

From: Fantastic Four #45

[venus-of-the-hrdsell]

As much as I'll always hate the usual misoginy female characters suffer from comic spaces, I'll always side eye the habit of always analysing female characters in the "they are flawless and they've done nothing wrong" unironically specially from people who are so called fans of said characters.

I like my female characters nuanced and complex, just like the discussions about them. You are welcome!

[todomemolesta18]

Helluva boss they actually have much more accurate portrayal of bullying through blitzo and loona. Not stella not glitz and glam. So anyone is capable being a bully whether that individual have any experience being mistreated or not. Helluva boss they on the part the bully have experience being mistreated some of this writing i see have several issue while it does explain why the bully acted like that they making it as an excuse. Some manage to do it well by explaining whether they have redemption or not it doesnt matter.

Stella 'bullying' is very laughable to me and unbelievable. I see some comic make it their way how stella bullying stolas then join by andrealphus. Heres the thing they re rank is are lower compare to stolas so they receive immediate consequence for doing that the ars goetia is not gonna let that slide so easily regardless of their intention of doing that. Stella is not a threat not even in the slightest, people make big deal out of her hiring assassin like stolas have powerful magic so he'll be fine. Glitz and glam they just come across as a more of rude contestant over being a bully to me personally. Blitzo and Loona now thats the bully we can talk about they work in the same enviroment as moxxie, they constantly bully him verbally sometime psyhically, blitzo threatening him with sexual assault, blitzo stalking hes own employee hes really obsessed. Theres also moment where he can be nice toward moxxie the bullying he does is coming like bullying from closest friend. Blitzo himself have trauma and is being mistreated so he need to have that power this also apply to loona

I seen some female bully who is much more believable pose as a threat and their bullying is more convincing. In percy jackson story percy jackson is being bullied by nancy bobofit. She have much more friend the teacher liked her percg jackson is neurodivergent too this we believe she bullying percy. Bullying is bad yes but some people should be more aware and careful how to depict it.

Female character dont have the same treatment toward male character. They are more easily seen as irredemable, annoying, and people are also have unrealistic expectation put on them, they are less forgiven for their mistake than the male character. In percy jackson fandom theres misogny nancy bobofit she is annoying but i think fans are went too far to seen as irredemable when theres human adult and gods who done way worse than her this happen in helluva boss look at how they treated stella, millie, glitz glam, verosika, barbie

Yes, I hate the misoginy and hipocresy so much. Now, yes Blitzo and Loona are bullies and it doesnt matter how sad their backstory is, they are shitty people

[pietrodart]

Hi I saw your post about where you answered an anon and discussed people taking issue with the Pietro and Monet pairing. I saw you explain in it that Monet is a WOC and autism coded. Not to mention how she's being infantilized as well.

I'll be honest, I don't know all that much about Monet. I didn't know about her until I got the knowledge that she's with Pietro.. but from what I know about her so far I'm intrigued. What especially caught my eye is people on the internet saying she's autism coded as I'm a person with autism myself and find it quite nice to have representation or at least characters I can relate to. That being said I might actually read up on her and say I think she's being infantilized due to a combination of her age and being autism coded. In my experience people have infantilized me due to my age but to be honest..mostly due to my autism. People with disabilities tend to be infantilized quite a lot.

that's awful and i'm sorry to hear that, i know it sucks to be infantilized and it sucks even more if it's directly tied to a part of your life and being like a disability.

i totally recommend for you to check out more of monet! i still don't know a lot about her but i'm learning more things slowly and she is very interesting, though the comics(generation x in specific) can be quite ableist when it comes to monet's probable autism and her sister's diagnose, so i'd recommend for you to take that in mind before reading since it's quite uncomfortable. also, i'd recommend @redcroix, it's a great blog that posts panels of monet occasionally and i think it's a great way of finding panels that awaken your interesting in reading her and taking the sources of the panels as a guide to read more of her!

and again, i really do believe the reason her relationship with pietro is born out of a place of misoginy(though i didn't mention it before), racism and ableism. it's awful. those are on the only things that could possibly justify the weird backlash the pairing got...well, i hope that changes at some point or if we're being lucky, marvel decides to include some type of analysis around their relationship to point out how incredibly stupid the dislike for them is and get more people to understand that monet is a grown woman.

good reading by the way! i hope you enjoy monet, i certainly enjoyed her! :) if you want to speak with her i'm always available btw!!

[patemi-pk]

1961: A Trans Person 🏳️‍⚧️ on Topolino?

Transgender people and Disney comics, certainly a pairing not very foreseeable, especially if the year we are considering is 1961.

Crossdressing and gender promiscuity has always been present in animation and comics, but as the pun of the joke, engaging in mockering and belittlement of the misunderstood and discriminated minorities. So, dressing as a woman has been a pervasive trope in many children-oriented media. As a result of this transgender people have never been portrayed in a un-ridiculing way.

[I will skip the eventual reclaim of some of these problematic portrayals by the LGBTQ+ community that happened later on.]

However, if we want to focus on actual trandgender people, avoiding any confusion with crossdressing and generic gender non conformity, it's safe to state that no member of this community has appeared in any form of Disney media prior to 1961.

In 1961 on Topolino "Topolino e il gigante della pubblicità" was published. Written and drawn by Romano Scarpa, it's a story centered around the endeavour of Mickey Mouse in the advertisement industry, where he ends up working side by side with an apparently redeemed Peg-leg Pete.

The character we should focus on is Mac Faxtor, the boss of a cosmetic company, who reveals to have an original backstory. Mac is an AFAB person who decided to live their life as a man, to overcome some gender-based disadvantages of the female life. They were an ugly woman who mastered beauty care, but their tecniques had no effect on themselves. So, to avoid a bad prejudicial reputation, they decided to transition into a man. It's self-evident how this backstory renders their identification with the transgender community problematic.

First and foremost there is no explicit identification with a different gender than the one assigned at birth as, in fact, Mac uses male pronouns only in public, but in private and with Mickey, after he has discovered their secret, they use female pronouns. Thus it seems that despite presenting male in public, Mac still identifies as a woman. On the other hand, although the premise for the gender reassignment seems disconnected from their gender identity, Mac decides to transition to escape the prison that the stereotypical depiction of the feminine gender imposes on women: the unfair weight of socially constructed beauty standards that women suffer, compared with men, who have a more nuanced relationship with beauty and aren't expected to care about it as much as women (we all know how this impacts the different experience that men and women have with aging).

If we can't talk about gender dysphoria for the case of Mac, a level of body dysmorphia should be taken into account.

Mac's experience relates to the concept of outing too. The entire story revolves around the blackmail carried out by Peg-leg Pete to extort money from Faxtor in exchange for keeping the truth about them a secret. Mickey's intervention succeeds in exposing Pete's crimes, while protecting Mac's life in stealth, as we see at the end Faxtor in their villa, presenting female, but being addressed as a man.

We may assume that they have continued their life as a genderfluid individual, seemingly not detransitioning, nor completely blending in as a man.

Although the character's backstory may be off putting compared to modern understanding of the transgender experience, it is interesting to highlight that the element of mockery is severely undertoned, compared to contemporary depictions of the situation, and indeed replaced, by some extent, with a more tragic overview of the life of a transgender person.

Adding to this, any moral insertion is expunged, as the author appears uninterested with the social implications of such a gender non conformity. At that time we would have expected a more bigoted approach to the matter, but bigotry is nearly absent (albeit some comedic misoginy about women being afraid of mice) and the hero of the story works to preserve the life in stealth of the gender non conforming individual. Very progressive, considering the conservative timeframe and country (probably even author) and the fact that this story was produced for mass market.

[just-an-enby-lemon]

Prelude to the Wedding is the one where he randomly tries to force Batgirl into marrying him right? and doesn't he even choke her when she says no and is just an all around entitled misogynist creep?

Yeah. I don't remember the details because I read it once and nevermore. But basically.

He also has a weird speech about being a womanizer and it's pure misoginy with some incel talk points and the audience hope that this is AT LEAST a lie and he is being portrayed as just a loser is throwed alway as they confirm that objectifying Query and Echo really worked to make them sleep with him (wich implies his other takes are right as well).

The whole thing with Query and Echo was the part that really stayed with me because there is a moment in a different comic were Query and Echo are working for a different villain and they coment that they preffer working with Riddler because different of other male villains they worked for he isn't handsy nor inapropriated at all. And I really enjoyed that moment because that comic was from a time where most henchwoman were specially misstreated (including Harley) by their bosses except those two and it was a nice subversion. And Prelude to Wedding brought the girls back after a long time of them just not being mentioned/existing only so they could show Edward was a creepy boss as well.

I hate how Batgirl is showed as pure and a exception for not looking at Riddler absolute misoginy and falling for him. Also they had the gal to justify Edward's misoginy with him being in the aroace spectrum. I hate that comic sooo much. I hate how for a Batgirl comic Riddler is the protagonist and Barbara ends the story as if she was a kere prop. Yes she fought well and was very badass but the only thing the comic gave her was that know she knows Riddler is a creep. She does even react to what should have been a very traumatic situation.Wich isn't even future knowledge as it is a one book only charactherization.

Oh and he calls women: FEMALES.

Sorry. It was a yes or no question and instead here am I slowly remembering details of the comic and wasting your time ny getting angry over them.

[togetogetogepi]

TW: mentions of (all fictional) racism, pedophilia and misoginy.

Hot take, but I think that people shouldn't get to ignore the crucial flaws of their favourite media just because they like it. And I don't mean plotholes, I mean genuine shit like racism, misoginy, etc...

The amount of people that I see violently refusing to admit that what is being displayed is wrong is ASTOUNDING. It's not so hard to say "yeah, this part is bad" instead of whining that "antis and haters" are ruining your existence by pointing out obvious shit like pedophilia disguised as feminism in a comic for teens.

Most of the media I consumed during my childhood are filled to the brim with blackface and racist stereotypes and no matter the level of nostalgia I have for it, it's basic common sense to not excuse it, and SPECIALLY not to complain when someone calls out how bad that is. Because guess what, you can't ignore the elephant in the room and people are allowed to point it out. That's the reason why, as much as I find them charming, I don't reccomend Asterix to young children (unless it's to teach them about stereotypes), because it contains shit like this:

That piece of media isn't your life. It's not your world. The author doesn't care about you. Ignoring this issues can be a very straight path to normalizing them in real life.

[false-heteros16]

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Wanda deserves to not have a wedgie everytime she moves her legs 🙄 like I know that costume hurts like hell. It is NOT made for super heroing. Like wtf iron man and captain America get a whole suit and our bitch gets this? No. Honey no no.

[castielcommunism]

Read the SPN comics thanks to that post you reblogged with links and it was a ride. They go from bad, to "this barely uses the SPN IP", to okay but with typical SPN misoginy, to legitimately good to the point that it made me wish the prequel was with John and the brothers. (one volume was even written by Kripke, and another by Dabb).

The best comic suffers from using stock photos of Sam and Dean for its covers instead of art though. Hope you read the at some point to get your thoughts on them

yessss I wanna read them!!! sounds like the true spn experience

[ml-salt-central]

So, I finally watched the Miraculous New Your special...

I know this is late, sorry about that. It took a while for me to find a way to watch the special but I finally did so let's just get this shit over with:

Okay, how the fuck are these fucking pidgeons lifting the Eiffel Tower? Do they get super strenght from Mister Pigeon or something?

51 TIMES?! HAWKMOTH HAS CHOSE TO AKUMATIZE THE PIGEON GUY 51 TIMES?! HOW DESPERATE CAN YOU BE, BITCH?!

Astro Cat's design is cool af honestly but Cosmobug's design is awful! Why can't Marinette have a good design for her hero form for once? Oh, right, misoginy...

Okay so, I'm just gonna skip every Love Square scene because then this post would be even longer and I reacted the same way towards all of them, I just rolled my eyes and didn't care

Marinette's still a drooling idiot for Adrien despite claiming that she tries to move on which is... tiring and not funny, JUST LET HER MOVE ON!

Ms. Bustier is having a baby or whatever but I hate her so I don't care

If you saw Ms. Mendeleiev's reaction to Kim calling her a stick in mud and thought that that scene would lead to her trying to be more relaxed and less strict then you get to eat shit because it goes nowhere other than one scene at the airplane

Alya and Nino are just straight up terrible in this special, they spend all of their screen time trying to push Mari and Adrien together despite the fact that Mari said she wanted to move on and that Adrien has a GIRLFRIEND! WHAT THE FUCK, GUYS?!

Miraculous Ladybug: Where cheating is okay as long as it's for the sake of the main pair

I do not like the idea of historical figures being miraculous holders, am I alone on that?

Nathalie's apparently in pretty bad shape for using the Peacock Miraculous too much... good! Die, bitch! Also Gabriel's the fucking worst again, no surprise there

Luka deserves to be an actual character, poor boy is just being done dirty again and again

I said this before but I hate, hate, HATE the fact that there are other superheroes whose powers don't come from a miraculous. This just destroys the already weak world building, New York and Paris in ML don't feel like places that would exist in the same universe and it raises so many questions like how do people like Majestia get their powers? Why don't any of them go to Paris to help stop Hawkmoth since it doesn't seem like that would take much effort? Why are superheroes seemingly an exclusively american thing?

Mister Damocles's owl thing was funny at first but it was kind of annoying here, like this just proves once again that the characters never learn anything, didn't he realize that being an every day hero would be better for him in the episode he got akumatized?

All the american heroes are just knockoff versions of already existing heroes from comics, they couldn't even bother to parody the interesting ones they went with the more boring (and sadly most popular) ones

They made Aeon (the first black girl character of the show) a robot, made her become ivory white when she transformed and gave her the name "Uncanny Valley"... FUCKING YIKES! And that's not even all the things wrong with how her character is portrayed! She isn't even good as a concept! At least the idea of Jess as a character could work if she was written by people who knew what the fuck they were doing

The scenes where Adrien and Marinette can't get through automatic doors are really funny and cute ngl

Normally, I would be all for magic hot dogs being a thing but not on this show

The american heroes having all of their identities being public is just BEYOND stupid! Do the villains just not target their families or try to murder them in their sleep? And if having your secret identity being public has seemingly no consequences then what is Mari's and Adrien's excuse to not reveal who they are to eachother at least? I know the answer is to drag the show out for as long as possible but still!

I don't like the existence of the Eagle miraculous or the fact that there are more miracle boxes out in the world, why add more shit when you've barely explored the things you already have?

Techno-Pirate is boring and his name being Miracolonizer when he wields the Eagle miraculous is just... all kinds of uncomfortable

Adrien throws himself a pity party after almost killing Aeon due to him getting angsty mid-battle, I don't feel bad for him at all honestly

Knightowl looks so ugly without her suit, holy shit!

How the fuck did Jess know the deactivation words for the Eagle Miraculous' powers? Also her suit is so ugly! And her hero name is just "Eagle", at least Ladybug is now tied with someone as the blandest hero

Why the fuck did Knightowl and Sparrow hide the fact that they were female? Like there are plenty of other female heroes around so it's not like they're gonna be judged for it and if it's to hide their secret identities then why are they the only american heroes that do so?

The Miraculouses just keep piling on, making them even less special than before but now with the added bonus that they now seem like a pretty shitty power source compared to the american heroes' superpowers

Lastly, what's up with the technology in the ML universe? Like most of the time it feels like the show takes place in modern day but then we get these very advanced pieces of machinery out of nowhere and it feels so... jarring and inconsistent

In conclusion:

The fuck was all that?!