#Korra critical
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fanfic-lover-girl · 1 year ago
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Make Rohan a Bender but NOT an AIRBENDER
I know Pema wants Rohan to be a non-bender like her. But what would be cool is if he turned out to be a WATERBENDER.
Imagine how happy Katara would be! Kya it seems will never settle down and give Katara a grandkid. And Bumi became an airbender due to that dumb harmonic convergence crap (screw Korra btw). Rohan being a waterbender would force Tenzin to acknowledge the water tribe part of his heritage for once! Also maybe Katara could teach Rohan too :). Katara deserves to have a waterbending grandkid damnit and to be more involved in her own freaking family! Give LOK Katara some love please!
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zuko-always-lies · 6 months ago
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Legend of Korra and the incredibly long season finales
One flaw which really strikes me about TLoK is that the season finales were all far too long. This is a point which is easier to understand if we talk about ATLA first. ATLA had two 20 and one 21 episode season finales:
Book 1: Water. The season finale was two ("The Siege of the North Part 1 and 2") or at most three (if we count "The Waterbending Master") episodes long, for 10% or at most 15% of the season's runtime. I really don't think we should we should count "The Waterbending Master," though. It builds toward the series finale, but it's mostly it's own thing with its own main plot.
Book 2: Earth. The season finale was two episodes ("The Guru" and "The Crossroads of Destiny"), for a total of 10% of the season's runtime. You could argue that "Lake Laogai" and "The Earth King" are also parts of the finale, but they're really not. The main antagonist of the finale, Azula, doesn't even show up until the end of "The Earth King."
Book 3: Fire. The season (and series) finale was "Sozin's Comet," with a total of four episodes. That amounts to 19% of the season's runtime, but this is a series finale. That being said, I do personally feel like "Sozin's Comet" is already too long and not organically connected and that some of the stuff which happens there should have happened earlier in the season.
Now, let us turn to LoK.
Book 1: Air. This is 12 episodes long, and I would argue that the season finale amounted to three episodes: "Turning the Tides," "Skeletons in the Closet," and "Endgame." That would mean the season finale was 25% of the season. Every if we cutoff "Turning the Tides" because the protagonists are more reactive than proactive in it, the finale would still amount to 17% of the season.
Book 2: Spirits: This is 14 episodes long. It's actually very hard to figure out what constitutes the finale in this. Definitely "Harmonic Convergence," "Darkness Falls," and "Light in the Dark" are included. That would make for 21% of the season. However, you could also argue for "Night of a Thousand Stars" (29%), "A New Spiritual Age," (36%), or even "The Guide" (43%), although the last one is pretty dubious. What is clear is that in the second half of this season, events take on a pace which is at once both relentless and endless.
Book 3: Change. Things are a little clearer here in this 13 episode season. The season finale amounts to three episodes: "The Ultimatum," "Enter the Void," and "The Venom of the Red Lotus." That makes for 23% of the season.
Book 4: Balance. Another 13 episode season, with a three part finale: "Kuvira's Gambit," "Day of the Colossus," and "The Last Stand," for 23% again.
ATLA was 61 episodes long. LoK was 52 episodes long. If we go with the lowest possible number, ATLA had 8 season finale episodes, which made up 13% of the series. Similarly, with the lowest possible number, LoK had 11 season finale episodes, for 21% of the series.
If we instead go with the highest reasonable number, ATLA had 9 finale episodes for 15%, while TLoK had 14, for 27%.
And if we go with the highest possible number, reasonable or not, ATLA had 11 finale episodes, for 18%, while TLoK had 15, for 29%. It's possible to argue that nearly a third of TLoK was season finale episodes!
I think one thing is clear: TLoK spent far too much time on season finales. Did we really need three straight episodes of a mecha battle between Kuvira and our protagonists? Or three straight ones of Korra fighting Unalaq and Vaatu in the spirit world?
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skull-turtle · 7 months ago
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I JUST FINISHED LEGEND OF KORRA AND I HAVE THOUGHTS PART2: THE KREW
Yeahhh, I'm going there. The Krew aren't friends, I don't buy it. Korra and Bolin genuinely seemed like friends in season 1 before it fell off and they barely had any interactions outside of action sequences. Honestly Bolin's character was really good, like genuinely a good guy I'd want to ve friends with.
However they're still friends. So are Mako and Korra, even though it was rough after they finally broke up. Korra and Assami genuinely became friends and while I have MUCH to say about Assami, at least i believe she and Korra are friends.
And there lies the issue. Korra is friends with all three of them. But I can't buy that the rest are friends with each other.
Of course, Bolin and Mako are brothers. Their relationship makes sense. But Bolin and Assami? They feel like two people that just hang out because they have people in common. I can't imagine the two of them having long interactions on their own.
Assami and Mako were...fine while they dated. After that? Do you genuinely think those two even share a cup of tea together? How many times do you think just the two of them met up during those three years?
Korra and Mako, unlikely as it is, work. Specially after they stopped dating.
This is all just my opinion, but the Krew works as team avatar but not as a group of friends. They're like a friend group where most of the people aren't all that close to each other, even though they hang out and have fun. ...a far cry from the Gaang.
I don't want to put them against each other, but as a continuation of ATLA comparisons are bound to pop up. The Krew feels like a far cry from the found family that was Gaang. I mean even the characters with the LEAST interactions, Toph and Zuko had conversations I can't imagine a lot of the Krew even come close to having.
I can clearly define the relationships between Sokka and Toph, Aang and Zuko, Zuko and Katara, and do forth. I can't when it comes to the Krew and that's a shame.
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atla-confessions · 1 month ago
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korrasami shippers bringing up mako cheating but act like korra isn’t a homewrecker who got with mako while he was with asami. Korra, the homewrecker violated asami as another woman, then started dating asami at the end is such bad writing. asami is the one who deserved a break, but now she’s dating the woman who ruined her relationship with mako. that’s the main reason I dislike korrasami. asami deserved better than to be with korra. I’m so serious about this. korra is the villain. ☹️
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fancylala4 · 8 months ago
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Korra stans need to admit that she gets beaten up multiple times in the series. Yes, she’s strong and is ready for everybody. However, she has taken serious Ls from her enemies through out the series and she makes the same mistakes over and over. The only season where she actually grew and learned from her past mistakes in fighting is season 4. She finally stopped being reckless and was level headed.
I also do find it interesting how korra stans act like she never lost a fight in the series but when someone shows a clip of her getting beaten up, they bring up excuses for it. Like saying she was caught off guard, she was chained, she was poisoned, etc.
I don’t hate korra. I like her and all but I can admit that she was way too reckless and that would lead to her getting beaten up in fights.
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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 8 months ago
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“catra is a complex poc” fuck that. here are some ACTUAL poc animated characters who are just as, if not more complex than catra.
grace monroe (infinity train) • black american
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connie maheshwaran (steven universe) • indian-american
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katara (avatar the last airbender) • inuk
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wolf (kipo and the age of wonderbeasts) • black american
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suhara/shadowsan (carmen sandiego) • japanese
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korra (the legend of korra) • inuk
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jesse cosay (infinity train) • indigenous (apache)
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lars barriga (steven universe) • filipino
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azula (avatar the last airbender) • japanese
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ryan akagi (infinity train) • japanese-canadian
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luz noceda (the owl house) • afro-dominican american
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(there are a lot more, so i'll be making a part 2!)
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marching-weirdo · 7 months ago
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"zukos character arc is best-
"no aangs flirting skills are-"
"You forgot sokkas hair-"
YALL FORGOT KORRA
SHE WENT FROM THIS
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TO THIS
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AND STILL GIRLBOSSED HER WYA THROUGH EVERYTHING WHILE ALSO FINDING LOVE AND GAINING BACK THAT MUSCLE!
she also showed a lot of people, like me, that mental health recovery isn't linear. like, girl, that show has problems BUT DAMN IT IF IT ISNT BETTER THAN MoST THINGS YOU SEE
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prying-pandora666 · 9 months ago
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I bet you that if we had gotten Book 4: Air, and there had been a time skip, we wouldn’t be seeing so much Aang hate today.
No really. If the show had been able to continue and gave us an older, edgier, more attractive Aang?
He would have fans falling all over themselves for him.
The thing is that ATLA ended when Aang was barely turning 13. A goofy, bald, pacifist, vegetarian 12 year old isn’t attractive and so too many fans discount him. How can he possibly compete with openly tormented and outwardly angry Zuko? Or quietly insecure and naturally hilarious Sokka?
Zuko and Sokka who are 16 and 15 respectively (nearing 17 and 16 by the end), and therefor at an age where romance is more relevant to most, and so are the focus of so much love and affection and especially shipping?
If Aang had been able to grow anywhere between 15 - 18, he’d be right up there with the other two. You’d see metas about his tragic backstory, suddenly more of the fandom would care about the loss of his entire people, about the survivor’s guilt, the intense loneliness, the diaspora, the yearning for common everyday things that now no one else in the world understands.
But we didn’t get that. Instead we got LOK, with an old, bearded, post-bucal fat removal Aang. An Aang who has already had children and has a controversial score on “dad ratings”.
The poor kid never stood a chance.
@book4air
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rightwheretheyleftme · 7 days ago
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I’m watching Korra book 2 and I have so many emotions about Aang’s neglect of his kids
After watching ATLA earlier this year, I started following a bunch of fan accounts and saw the same discourse regurgitated over and over again; One of the main points of discourse is whether Aang was bad father.
The discussions that I saw would always play out the same way. Aang’s detractors would say: “Aang didn’t take 2/3 of his kids on vacations. That’s neglect” and Aang’s defenders would reply “Aang is not a bad father! The places that he took Tenzin to were built for airbenders so Kya and Bumi wouldn’t have anything to do there!” And you know what? When I was reading those arguments, I thought that both sides had valid points and that this was a complex discussion.
Oh boy.
Now that I’m watching the episode, I realized that the people in this fandom are lying through their teeth. Aang only taking 1 out of his 3 kids on vacations is true, but the claim that that happened because Aang only visited places made for airbenders is completely false. Let’s recap the places that Aang and Tenzin went to:
- Kyoshi Island; to ride the elephant koi
- Ember Island; to build sandcastles on the beach
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Now explain to me, why on earth does the majority of the fandom say that Aang went to airbender-only places? Kyoshi and Ember islands have 0 historical significance to the airbenders. These are just fun vacation spots, we know this because we saw the Gaang vacation at these places multiple times.
Moreover, according to Bumi, Aang was busy due to his job as the Avatar but he made time for Tenzin, only Tenzin. Kya agrees with this.
I’m so disgusted by this information. There is no way that a grown man in his 40s wouldn’t realize that taking only 1 of your kids on fun vacations and leaving the others behind is hurtful, the only possible conclusion that you can reach here is that Aang was intentionally trying to hurt his kids’ feelings.
And that breaks my heart.
This is not the Aang that I know and love. Aang is a fun, caring, accepting, and loving person. The behavior that I’ve described above is not only emotional neglect, it borders on abuse.
At first, I thought that maybe this storyline was meant to deconstrue the “The hero can do no wrong” cliché. Except that it ends with Kya and Bumi looking at a family picture and reminiscing about how happy they were. So no, there is no deconstruction; Aang is portrayed as a flawed but otherwise good father. Apparently, not loving 2/3 of your children enough to want to spend leisure time with them is a common flaw and not parental neglect, according to TLOK.
I feel so betrayed not only by the writers and the story that I love, but also by the fandom who silences victims of parental abuse when they are rightfully pissed off by Aang’s actions. I never wanted for Aang to be a neglectful father, but he is. Harassing people who are mad about his actions and calling them bitter Zutaras is a disgusting way to try to silence conversations about parental abuse.
Side note: Where tf was Katara while this was happening? Did she not take offense that her husband was neglecting 2/3 of her kids? Why didn’t Aang respect Katara enough to not play favorites with the kids she gave him?
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oblivionbladetd · 2 months ago
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Okay, so... I wanted to give Lily the benefit of the doubt here...
But Lily, are you just straight jorkin' it whenever you see or hear a character in pain?
I mean fuckin honestly though, Korra is torture porn, Steven Universe is fetishitic, Fullmetal Alchemist has torture porn in the chimera scene somehow???, She-ra is torture porn and abuse fetishizing, Dungeon meshi has Elf torture porn...
Lily, I won't say you are projecting your kinks onto things. Though if I slapped a bright enough flashlight to the back of your head, an f-list page would appear wherever you are looking.
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toaverse · 2 months ago
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Couples I wish were written better.
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fanfic-lover-girl · 1 year ago
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I wish I loved Korra and Hermione
I want to pause my negativity for a bit and be a bit more open about my feelings about Korra and Hermione. I know I rag on these 2 characters but part of me genuinely does want to like them. I really do because I see myself a lot in both of them. Which is why the handling of their characters frustrates me.
Like Hermione, studying and school was my main source of self-worth. I was the brightest girl in highschool. This is why when I went to college, I found it hard to cope with being around peers so much "better" than me. For a while, I felt worthless. Like Hermione, I am not very girly. It's only recently that I have begun wearing dresses to weddings and such. I don't like makeup and I find it hard to care much about my hair. Like Hermione, I found it hard to make friends in school and usually had a small circle.
Same points with Korra. I was very sheltered growing up. I was a good student in STEM but struggled in subjects like the humanities and hated them because of it (like Korra with airbending). I was naive about the world in many ways. I never had big crushes but it is disappointing to find yourself liking a guy only to find out he has a girlfriend or sees you like a sister. I could not relate to Aang but I could relate to Korra's louder personality and tougher nature. And I am black so there's the skin factor too.
Like both, I was kind of violent towards boys growing up, especially in primary school. I remember chasing boys with sticks and even hitting a classmate over the head with a book. I was an emotional kid for real. Thank God no one ever hit me back. And this is why I am against female violence against guys being treated as a joke in media.
I find Krum's interest in Hermione very inspiring. This famous senior likes her even though she's average. While Ron can be a jerk, mostly due to teenage boy immaturity, for the most part, Ron is very caring towards her. Sometimes I feel self-conscious because the only guys who have ever had interest in me have been random guys off the street in Jamaica. The friendly newspaper guy calling me 'princess'. A grown man with yellowing teeth who insisted on walking with me. A highschool dropout guy who also insisted on walking with me. In the US, another grown, sloppy black man trying to get to know me on the bus. Ugh. I wonder if any guy in my circle would ever find me desirable and Hermione is a nice representation of hope.
I just hate how Hermione and Korra's flaws are hardly acknowledged by the narrative. I don't like how they treat their love interests. I don't like how them being jerks to the people around them makes them badasses or girlbosses.
I wish we could have gotten an arc for Hermione where she discovered that she did not need to get top grades to prove herself. Because Hermione deserved better than 'oh you're smart, Neville is dumb so you're ok for a muggleborne' from Hagrid. Hermione should not have to be smart to be worthy of her magic. All Hagrid did in that scene was justify pureblood supremacy logic. I wish we had seen more of her relationship with her parents. It's sad how she obliviated her parents and it's treated as inconsequential dialogue. I wish she had more female friends. Hermione acts like a 'pick me' type and I dislike how JKR used her and Ginny to demonize other types of girls. Maybe she could have had an arc where she learns that there is more to being smart besides being booksmart. A lot of her brightness is really due to memorization. So many possibilities with a Hermione and Luna friendship. Just imagine!
As for Korra...sigh. I wish everything was not handed to her. I wish we could have seen more of her struggling with airbending and her spirituality. I know Bryke had issues with pacing due to how LOK was produced at Nick but still. I wish she was called out for her bad decisions and she took responsibility. Now that I think about it, it would have been so cool to see Korra have to use her wits instead of her fists against a spirit foe like Koh after she left the portals open (dying from wasted potential!). I wish she went on a real Avatar journey so that through her we could learn how the cultures outside the water tribe have changed. I wish Korra did not perpetuate the stereotype of the angry/obnoxious black woman. Korra had the potential to be a way more interesting avatar than Aang and have a healthier romantic relationship but Bryke blew it. The relationship drama with Asami and Mako was disgusting and I hate Bryke's torture porn fetish with Korra. They treated Ozai with more dignity than Korra! The worst Ozai got was a drooling scene while the Gaang cracked jokes while Korra literally thanked her enemy for her trauma!!! The injustice! Bryke really hates women!
I am just rambling but I realized there are almost no female characters that I resonate with that are like me in the media I know. I wish Korra and Hermione had better writers :(
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zuko-always-lies · 6 months ago
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I'll be honest, Korra's behavior in this scene is really, really awful. She repeatedly violently manhandles an adult simply because he's not interested in joining the Air Nation, basically tries to kidnap him because he refuses, and is about to do it again, only to be stopped by Bolin and Mako in the end.
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longing-for-rain · 5 months ago
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There seems to be this take that it’s somehow “devaluing” healing and by extension women’s contributions by criticizing Katara ending up as a healer rather than a warrior in legacy, but this really misses the mark. The point is that from the beginning, Katara explicitly wanted to use her bending to fight. She never refers to herself as a healer; she says that she has healing abilities. It is a skill to her, not a trait she wishes to define herself by.
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But since we’re on the subject of devaluing the practice of healing, I’d like to pose a question I haven’t seen anyone ask before:
Why did Aang never learn healing?
It’s a valuable skill and one he could have really used. Other benders such as Zuko passed on their own skills like lightning redirection to Aang to aid him. Why not healing? Maybe it’s because he’s the Avatar and so narratively he doesn’t need—
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Oh. Interesting…
It’s almost like the narrative of the show itself is presenting healing as a woman thing that isn’t important enough for men to value learning.
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atla-confessions · 1 month ago
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There are in-text reasons people hate Mako considering how he treated Korra and Asami. Being a canon cheater and leading people on are already character traits that make a character very controversial very quickly. From what I remember, the growing distaste for how Mako treated both the girls predated korrasami's explosion in popularity.
Can we stop pretending that Korra and Asami are angels while Mako is the devil? Asami was forceful with Mako, and Korra was violent and aggressive toward Mako when she didn’t get her way. Let’s not rewrite history. Both girls had their flaws, and I see why they got together—they’re both toxic. That’s why korrasami boosted in popularity because of their toxic behavior towards mako.
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fossilizedhysterics · 7 months ago
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guess who finished tlok tonight and immediately had this come to him in a vision!!!!
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