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#Im having so much fun I love yj#tim drake#robin#conner kent#superboy#kon el#bart allen#impulse#dc#comics#young justice 1998#yj98#core four#young just us#art tag#fanart
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my s class hunters does a really good job at gradually raising the stakes without feeling like a pointless power creep and keeping me extremely invested and i keep saying this but I really do think it's bc it's a story grounded in love at every turn... the bond between the han brothers especially is extremely compelling and beautiful and makes me feel like a knife is being stabbed into my heart and twisted all around... i love them so so much 😞💔❤️🩹❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
#(another tweet liveblog that im crossposting here)#im up to ep 102 in the webtoon now btw!!!#s class liveblog#also it took a while for yj to completely grow on me (i always liked/loved him but it's prob bc they#lightened the tone of his chara or w/e as ppl were saying... in the beginning at least#that ive been holding off calling him a 'fav' (im kinda picky w protags/have side chara liking syndrome...#even w twsb i didnt rly start biasing yeseo until i read the novel... cedric was my 1st bias#(and w orv ive only read (part of) the webtoon and yjh is my bias so mdnfn)#(i rly loved yj from the 1st few ch tho but yea i can kinda tell the webtoon lightened his chara a lot... not that i think its all bad bc#its been fun to read at least dkfbdn)#but now that im further in im just like... wow. he's such an incredible character and protagonist. wow#def as good of a protagonist as kdj (and i personally like him better bc he's a big brother HHHHHNG.#i love him just like i love jung yeseo...#i love him SO much. he's just incredible#and yea dont tell me about the novel bc im going to read it myself but#yeah i rly cant wait to experience his original characterization and get intimately aquainted w his narration/internal thoughts...#REITERATING...DONT SPOIL ME ANYTHING FR#also just more abt the webtoon but... biwan-nim is SOOO good at drawing expressions & portraying emotions#i fucking feel every emotion that yj feels and it fucking breaks my heart and makes me cry uuuaaaghh T___T#yoojin.... TT__TT💔💔💔#also god he's just... so fucking COOL. and not just in like a cool savvy protag kinda way#(bc usually i kinda sleep when protags r like. Too cool/op skfjksdj but he's not like that at all)#i mean as a person... he's so incredibly... oughhh#as a person... as a big brother... T__T...#i cant even put it into words. he's just... i love him so much. it hurts.... im so deeply invested and rooting for him at every step...#he and yoohyun deserve the whole world i really hope they can get their happy ending together T_T💔💔💔❤️🔥 please...
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I'm. Overwhelmed
#i have too many blogs i think i need to cut down a Lot#im thinking make my general multi again#and cut down to kurt/jase/pearl ridge and Very low activity multi#having ben/jackie is super fun i love them and yj currently airing adds so much muse but i. i dont have time#and starting new blogs is. hard and i dont know how to. start things#i love ben and i want to write ben but i dont know what to write. or how to write. does that make sense#I'd move kurt and jase to the multi but in the past that has#not worked out they just. they have too much lore for a multi i think and it overwhelms people or they dont care enough to read it#which like. to be fair still happens a lot on jasons solo blog#idk i just. i have had a Lot of muse and desire to write and plot lately for all my muses but. something is. something doesnt click#and actually writing on here is just. not possible for some reason#something about tumblr is#its too much right now#which is weird bc like i dont. i dont have anything really going on its school holidays rn#but somehow theres just. im constantly overwhelmed and being here usually helps but it hasn't lately#i feel like. has the energy on tumblr shifted over the past few months#it feels like it has#like community wise?#like i dont think the new editor is to blame i prefer the new editor#i dont know. i don't know#something is different#and i don't like it
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I want to thank you for making your list of recommended long batfam fics. I have been making my way through it and I am really enjoying them! ESPECIALLY cards on the table (I also love Dark Matter but I had already read it). Please let us know if you ever get more long batfam fic recs 🥺
okay so ive been waiting to answer this until i had gathered a good chunk of new long fics and ive been getting a lot of similar messages asking for recommendations, so here is another list of my fav long batman fics!
Jason and the Three Terrors by @cdelphiki, 220k, ongoing, T. if i can get you to read one thing, let it be this. ohhh my god where to even begin, this is a fic where jason stays with the league after his dip in the lazarus pit for a little while and winds up being charged with getting damian, his cousin, and his sister out of the league safely. this fic is just so fucking good, cdelphiki always writes such seamless relationship growth and watching jason go from "im dropping these brats off first chance i get" to "im a single mother of three and i need to provide for my kids" is phenomenal. 1000/10, the writing, the kids, the relationships, please do yourself a favor and read this.
A Collision of Masks by Movaz, 169k, completed, T. !! guys. this is such a good dick grayson-centric fic. this is set in an AU where batman never joined the justice league so the justice league knows very little about batman inc. and consequently dick never joins YJ so the YJ team is tasked with checking out a new hero called nightwing in bludhaven and police officer grayson is tasked with helping the team in their investigation :) really good fic exploring dick juggling all his identities and finally gaining people he can rely on! i actually did a bind of it so you know i love this story so much
Life Happens by @cdelphiki, 176k, complete, G. ok so this fic is probably one of the most beautiful stories of growth and love i've read. its about tim and damian being transported from their world into ours where they're only comic book characters and they start to build a life for themselves here. cdelphiki is one of the most amazing authors, im currently going through all of their works, but this one has just stayed with me and i dont think anyone should pass it up. watching tim and damian grow together and seeing damian have a real childhood and just the whole concept of life happening wether you want it to or not is so beautifully done. cannot recommend enough.
Honoring Promises by LananiA3O, completed, 14k, T. okay this isnt actually a long fic, but its one of my favorite fics ever and i need it on this list. if you're like me and you love UTRH aus where instead of sticking around as red hood after bruce threw a batarang at his throat jason fucks off and disappears to live a normal life, this is for you. from dick's pov, he realizes jasons last letter was a last attempt at reaching out and stalks him until he finds out what really happened to his little brother. i think about this every day and wish it was 10000 words long
The Time Before by @cdelphiki, 80k, completed, G. at this point this is basically just a cdelphiki fic rec lmao when i said everything by them was good, i meant that shit. this is a fic where jason is sent back into time when he was 9 years old but still has all his memories from the future. he goes to bruce for help despite wanting to do literally anything else and is surprised to realize maybe everything isn't how he remembers it 10 years in the future and maybe theres a chance he can go home when hes older again. once again cdelphiki hitting me in the feels with this one, really amazing study on how time and pain can change how you perceive and remember things and also just forgiveness and fixing mistakes and accepting mistakes were made. very good, highly recommend
Good Fences Make Good Neighbors by Sophene, 80k, completed, batlantern, T. I have no excuse for this, this is such a fun and funny fic i love it so much. basically HOA president single dad bruce with his 10 million adopted kids and then hal jordan moves in next door and plays his music too loud at 10pm on a school night and throws parties and bruce has a stick up his ass about it. i really really love the shift in hal when kyle comes to live with him as his ward (? i cant actually remember if hes adopted or just a ward) and seeing him finally understand why bruce acts the way he does when it comes to his kids. also seeing bruce just being a tired dad 90% of the fic when he isnt glaring at hal is so good.
Option C by CasualGeek, 78k, completed, T. this has, in my opinion, a very unique and interesting premise. basically, what if instead of becoming red hood, jason comes back to gotham and manages to get Joker put on trial for the murder of sheila haywood and get the insanity plea thrown out. really interesting approach to batman and joker and jason technically doing things through the legal justice system and what that means for him and the people around him. very good, read it all in one sitting
butcherbird, fly away home by e_va, 41k, completed, M. lost days jason todd loml! basically what if when jason was off on his world tour one of his tutors kidnapped bruce wayne and jason has feelings about it against his will. "what if lost days jason was stuck in the same room as a sick bruce for more than 10 minutes and actually had to talk to him without punching him" AU and i throughly enjoyed it. @darlingatlas recommended this one and she never misses with the jason recs
this kind of weather by r_astra, 55k, completed, T. this is the fic something in the static was originally inspired by and if you know me, i love that series, and i love this fic too. another what if jasons mom didnt die until later and social services gets involved before he can bolt and bruce seeks him out with some very interesting news. i love fics that display jason’s relationship with crime alley and him being one of them. very good, i love jason so much
ok now these aren't actually long fics but i need to get them out here because i love them so much and highly recommend!
To My Brother by a_silly_gander, 7k, completed, T. Lost days jason au where he starts sending post cards from his travels to dick on a whim while we follow his time away and the people he meets. i love this one so much, please read it if you love jason and dick, its so special to me.
Enhanced Fashion Sense is a Perk of Being a Cat by 12pt_timesnewromanfont, 23k, complete, G. selina breaks into drake manor to steal a cat artifact and accidentally meets the drakes ten year old son they left home alone. then she starts keeping tabs on him and eventually adopts him and makes him stray. i really love selina finding tim before bruce and taking care of him <3 10/10 i wish selina would adopt me
#batman fic rec#fic rec#batfam fic rec#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#damian wayne#bruce wayne#batlantern#fic: jason and the three terrors#fic: life happens#fic: collision of masks#fic: the time before#jason todd fic rec#dick grayson fic rec#damian wayne fic rec
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I have wayyy to much free time so i made a playlist for the yj band au with songs i see them playing most often and i’m also going to tell you who i see playing what song :D
heres the link to the playlist most of its pop rock but yea
Lets begin
Immortals -tim
Picky -Cassie
I wanna be your slave -tim
High hopes -bart
Your gonna go far kid -tim
The kids aren’t alright -tim
Everybody talks -tim and occasionally kon
Lotta true crime -cassie
Backtrack -Cassie
Girlfriend -Cassie
Hey mickey -Cassie ( see her pointedly looking at kon in the lines but then i found out that mickey was gay for fun)
100 bad days -tim
Smells like teen spirit -tim
Teenagers -tim
Everything machine -tim
Everybody loves me -kon
Whats up danger -kon
Brutal -cassie
bigger person -cassie
that girl -cassie
you should se me in a crown -tim
stressed out -bart
ride -bart
still into you -tim
why’d you only call me when your high -kon
Brother -tim
heather -tim
if the world was ending -all of them together
intrusive thought -tim
shameless -cassie
IDGAF -kon
Idfc -tim
wolf in sheeps clothing -tim
sucker for pain -bart
Boyfriend -cassie
two pills -tim
give me a kiss -kon
We dont care -tim
hero -cassie
my problem -cassie
mom leave me alone i wanna be famous -bart
its tough to be a god -cassie
1985 -tim
partners in crime - tim + cassie
sugar we’re going down -kon
why worry -kon
ferris bueller -cassie
mood -bart
BILLIE EILISH -bart
superman -kon
arcade -tim
i think im in love -cassie
Could have been me -kon
#tim drake#red robin#konner kent#kon el#kon el kent#connor kent#tim wayne#young justice#supernova dc#superboy#bart allen#bartholomew allen#impulse dc#dc impulse#cassie sandsmark#cassandra sandsmark#wonder girl#yj98#yj#young just us#core four#young justice 1998#young justice band au#Young justice playlist
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not to out myself as like. scrolling through the rimi writes tag in chronological order and also finally having read straight on til morning. but the dancing in sotm and ballroom dance AU made me scream because i've been taking tango classes recently and just the intimacy. the connection and feeling of safety it requires to dance well with another person. timkon dancing makes my heart full thank you for my life and i'm glad to know another ballroom dance fiend thinks about them
omg YESSSSS YEESSSS im running to you i miss dance so much asdlkjf and im glad youre having fun with tango!!! im guessing youre doing argentine?
BUT YESSS i love partner dancing bc the connection, the intimacy of it. the way you have to press your entire body against your partner's for a dance like viennese waltz because it's fast and spinny and you really want to maximize your physical connection to keep your center of gravity stable. my whole team were just very comfortable physically laying on each other/with general casual touch because of the nature of partner dance and honestly it was sooo <3. i imagine yj are similar, like you have to have that physical trust when you're out there doing hero stuff together. and im pretty sure the entire team just manhandles tim for fun and profit. especially kon. (im looking at you wf3.)
BUT YEAHHHH i love to think about them dancing. with the power of ttk they could ballroom dance in the sky somewhere. i think they SHOULD even.
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my friend randomly asked me what pop girlie i think wrote each txt member… and i thought that sharing that question would he sooooo fun
i’ll start with yeonjun being written by sabrina carpenter maybe…? LEMME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS AND ID LOVE TO KNOW WHY OMG IM SO EXCITED
so im kinda old tbh so this might show my age a bit....
yeonjun written by dove cameron - her being queer i feel is the biggest reason here lol. plus she's just absolutely fucking STUNNING, like i know this isn't the prompt but thinking about them two together? they'd be literally so beautiful. and she seems highly emotional, which i think would go well w yeonjun. i see yj as someone pretty in tune with his feelings and not afraid to show them (esp. as a man) so she'd write a man like that.
soobin written by olivia rodrigo - i think she'd write soobin bc they both seem like rly authentic ppl that have created a strong "stage persona" ykwim? not that i think soob's fake on stage, just that he has to deliberately be "on" more so than the others. like yj can walk on a stage at any point and be comfortable and soob's gotta get "on" in order to slay his best. and neither is better than the other!! im also exactly like this. i love performing, but i need to be "on". does that make sense?
beomgyu written by billie eilish - billie likes to play w gender a lot and (while yj obviously does this too) gyu does this a lot too, without being loud about it, which i feel like billie does as well. like she's a quiet, reserved person that has her people that are important to her, like gyu w soob. yj is way more out there w playing w gender, like dove is.
taehyun written by adele - adele loves herself a MAN. so i think she'd definitely write a muscle-y cowboy pop star. and she seems suuuuuper smart and good at arguing, so i think they could yap and debate for hours. she also seems a lil bit into sports (could be bc of her fiance but whatever) but she's said several times how much she HATES working out so she'd write someone that'd make her/motivate her to go to the gym.
hueningkai written by avril lavigne - i mean....do i have to explain? i feel like this is self explanatory :D
#this was fun!#pls don't come for me if u disagree lmao#well i mean#you can disagree ofc!#just don't be mean lmao#inbox!#anon!
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i have a love hate relationship with the young justice show
on one hand it's a great introduction into dc with (mostly) fun and (kinda) likable characters
I've already made a post about how this show is not really beginner friendly but anyways, on the other hand the plot doesn't really let you enjoy the main cast as a whole and instead has 50 different plotlines at the same time and even veers off the main characters in the third season.
wait let me list my gripes with this show
1. mischaracterisation or a lack of characterisation
yj is infamous for not caring at all for it's main cast in the most recent seasons, all while tripling and even quadrupling the size of the cast. Of course there's bound to be some mischaracterisation but when the main cast is a mismash of various teen heroes from various eras of dc their character arcs get completely thrown off and even rewritten to be such unlikeable people (cough cough super boy cough cough miss martian) i mean how are you going to make a show and have your main characters be completely unlikable and even hated by the fandom.
2. lack of focus on the main cast
ooough young justice season 3 oooooh 👻
such an infamous season. i guess the character arcs of all our main characters being completed makes it slightly more okay but having this season focus on two more completely new casts of characters, one of which is very hated by the community, and having them go through two very different storylines, well the plot is vaguely the same but the character arcs are so different. And if that wasn't enough season two is a mess of yj throwing a band of characters at you and expecting you to immediately know who these people are, which leads me to my next point but first,
I must confess, i watched this show for two particular duos (cough cough birdflash cough cough timkon) well you know how well both of those went so im probably just salty about that.
3. the timeskips.
5 YEARS. 5 WHOLE YEARS BETWEEN SEASON 1 AND 2
oh my goodness so much happens in those 5 years, people are introduced, people leave and people DIE and so, so many plot holes that are just summed up to 'eh something must have happened off screen'
don't even get me started on that mess of a game that was supposed to patch the gap between these two seasons (ok i haven't actually played but have you seen those reviews, i must just read the fandom wiki)
another one of young justice's most 'iconic' features is it's perfectly linear storyline and continuous progression with absolutely no outrageous timeskips. we have characters popping out of nowhere i mean who the hell is spoiler- WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIRD ROBIN oh and miss martian changing her appearance every season, honestly i think shes getting uglier and i didn't even know that was possible (ok i guess she looks fine in the last season)
so you see, i dont really need to explain how bad the timeskips in this show are.
ok wait this has been just a post of me shitting on young justice uhhh guysss yj is sooo good you should totallyyyy watch
ok wait if you're just getting into dc young justice is a good watch but take the characterisation with a grain of salt okay, please trust me when superboy and miss martian are not like that. and kal is great but garth was actually the first aqualad and i hate to break it to you but artemis does not exist and spitfire is not real
so moral of the story, watch teen titans instead 🔥🔥🔥
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I remember you saying you liked young justice so I wanted to know who's your favourite character or the one you think is most like you? I've been attached by the hip to this show since I was 13 so I'm a little... not normal about it lol.
also opinions on s3?
YES oh my god it was like formative media for me genuinely and i still love yj dearly i was rewatching it like last month actually along with yaboyroshi's reactions to it 😅 we are both a little not normal about this show dw 🤝🏼 im putting the rest of this under a cut because i start Yapping
my fave characters were dick, artemis, jaime, bart, and zatanna! dick i was Obsessed with from the moment i laid eyes on him in hindsight for gender reasons, probably but artemis always meant a huge deal to me as a kid because she was like the only vietnamese character (and with a skintone like mine!) that i'd ever seen on a screen. i loved everything about jaime's character and personality and arc and i had a really soft spot for bart because characters who are very outwardly upbeat and fun but are going through a lot of shit and hiding it are my favourites ever usually 😅. i also liked rlly them as a duo. zatanna's sort of cool-girl sass was always really fun to see and i think especially in s4 where her sort of less-rigid morality had more room to shine, really made me appreciate her character more. OH also when they introduced cassandra wu-san/orphan in s3 i like literally cheered out loud 😭 shes one of my fave characters from dc comics in general, so i was already biased towards her and i really liked her depiction and the room they made for her arc
i'm actually not sure which character is the most like me... i think because i watched it so young a lot of the characters kind of made their way into my personality in one way or another. i think irl im most like dick but it could be wishful thinking 😅 i'm not as cool as he is for sure
season three.... i'm kind of on the fence about it? i will say though i think it was a little rough with the dialogue especially, and i definitely didn't bond as well with the outsiders as i did with the original team and then the s2 cast. violet was the most likeable of the group by far but i think i was really put off by the fact that they kept killing them 💀 like i get that you guys can do this now with the higher rating but there are better ways to show off your newfound creative freedom than repeatedly brutally killing them. it was offset with the majority of the other characters suffering from basically no visible injuries too- if they'd been hit with bruises or scrapes or broken bones or ANYTHING and reduced the harm dealt to vi then i would've been less urgh by it.
i also wish they'd introduced victor a bit earlier into the season instead of spending sooo much time with brion because cyborg's story felt a little tacked on at the end, and um i was annoyed by brion from the jump 😭😭 tried so hard to sympathise with him because to be fair he went through a Lot but he just kept being such an aggressive ass to like everyone. which i guess was the point.. didn't make it any more fun to watch though.
i do like that they kept with the huge mass of entangled threads of the plot that were to me the hallmarks of the earlier seasons, picking apart scenes to try and work out how things interconnect was always my favourite part. i think the cast of the show at this point for what they were trying to do and focus on may have exceeded the show's bounds though- it was still a compelling narrative but i imagine for a casual watcher who isnt as meticulously invested in who is who and can recognise adaptations of arcs from the comics it can get very confusing or frustrating. its hard because i Love the og cast too but i think with s3 they couldn't decide on letting them go or letting their new characters shine and it ended up muddying the waters a bit, with the outsiders suffering the most from it due to no nostalgia or prior narrative heft to keep them from looking secondary to the original members of the team.
with s4 they chose to throw their lot behind the old team, which i appreciated and it neatened the rough edges of the show more, but i do still miss the s2 cast quite badly so i actually kind of wish they'd kept expanding the cast but just narrowed focus onto the new characters for every season. the title of the show is young justice, so i personally would've liked to keep seeing a focus on the newer and rising heroes of each successive generation as opposed to returning again and again to the originals
sorry that this is such a wall of text 😅 but i think this is one of the shows that i could genuinely just like sit and talk about for ages and ages... even the characters i dont like at all have a fair amount of gravity and heft to them that i love. wally is still alive btw i will never stop believing 😤 get that man out of the speed force!
#sorry that i talked so much here ive been losing my mind to assignment stress all day so writing about something i actually give a rats ass#about is such an. air being let out of a balloon noise moment idk im tiiired but we move 😤#ask#reply#bonneblah#TYSM FOR THIS BY THE WAY! slightly off topic but i was making the og team in cas the other day but i never finished 🤔🤔 I SHOULD FINISH
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Dear Zel, i hope this letter finds you well,
I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT A COUPLE LESBIANS IF THATS OK :333
Idk if you’ve read young justice 98 already but you haven’t posted anything about these two as far as im aware so…
LOOK AT THEM! They’re rival-ish friends to lovers(canon TO MEEEE) and dude they are sooooooooo TvT im so incoherent about them
Like there’s an issue of young justice covering a few short stories in forms of different characters’ dreams, each being sort of an au and guess what these sapphics dream about-
^GAY!!!! (Lmao i just realized its a dixon story.)
GAY!!!!
This room is also pretty gay if you ask me.
(There’s even more panels that can be interpreted as romantic attraction (having a crush on your best friend in high school and being in denial about your sexuality specifically) but i haven’t got them in my gallery for some reason.)
Yeah. Thanks for listening to my cissiecassie propaganda.
I ALWAYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT LESBIQNS THATS ALWAYS OKKKK
Oooo omggg this was actually very very functional propaganda!!! I am a raging sucker for lesbian ships and they look like absolute homosexuals 💜💜💜
You’re right, I don’t know much about them aside from some mutuals rbs (including yours!!!) But I’ve always looked at them and kinda gone ooo they look fun maybe one day I’ll read their stuff, but never really had the push I needed UNTIL NOWWW
Okioki so in terms of reading for them, is yj 98 the place to start??? I believe that they’re Wonder Girl and Arrowette, right??? So do they have solos or something im meant to read? (I am gonna start yj rn bc you sent this at the perfectttt time but if there are any others you know pleaseee tell me
(Lesbian fancy dress castle exploration is sooo wlw core I love ittttt omggg)(alsoooo rival friends to lovers????? I’m literally so hypedddd)
Thank youuu smmmmn for sending this wlw propaganda is the best sort of propaganda and i am always game for new wlw ships
(Screaming incoherently bc I loveeee this ask its made me really happy)
(ALSO I SWEAR YOU WERE RBING SOME OF MY BUT IM A CHEERLEADER STUFF LAST NIGHT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT I AM SO GAME I LOVE THEMMM)
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@bluejaysgonerogue i wanted to do a proper post so:
more people can see it
people can add to the list
(this is my opinion, please please if you have other comics, add them to the list)
im actually a big fan of the "newer" stuff, we're talking new 52 onwards, purely bc it works nicely in the times
new 52 starts strong with a storyline that's all about dick's past, and given it ocvurred after a hard reset, it's easy to get into
so:
nightwing 2011 (30 issues + 1 annual)
grayson (20 issues + 3 annuals + futures end, a weird special that i would honestly skip)
nightwing 2016 (109 issues and counting + 5 annuals + nightwing rebirth that comes before the run)
there's also the 2? previous nightwing runs:
nightwing 1995 (five issue limited run + alfred's return #1 special that comes first)
nightwing 1996 (153 issues + issue 1/2 + issue 1,000,000 + a whole host of specials)
2? because does nightwing 1995 actually count as a proper run???
you might also hear them referred to by volumes, 1995 is vol 1, 1996 is vol 2, 2011 is vol 3 or new-52, 2016 is vol 4 or rebirth
grayson is a bit weird but my absolute favourite dick ever. it's a spy thriller and doesn't have a lot of batfam/titans/yj characters in it BUT it does have a lot of dick being awesome. there's also an 'event' that takes place during grayson called robin war, very fun and a good show of dick's skills and manipulation.
to top it off, robin year one is always quoted as essential reading so i'd check it out too (before anyone shouts nightwing year one, it's issues 101-106 of vol 2)
there's also a lot of batman that features dick, he has a nice feature in both hush and under the (red) hood but nothing major, both giving us some nice interaction with bruce. both are also just incredible and deserving of being on the list of iconic batman
batman and robin 2009 is a lot of fun bc it features dick as batman, and damian wayne as his robin. this is a dynamic that i just love and is where episode 113 os WFA just hits hard (and why damian leans on dick so much, he is dick's robin)
oooooo and a lonely place of dying (1989) is brilliant. it's the introduction of tim drake and features dick. it's great, you should read it. it comes after a death in the family which is also just amazing. no dick, just jason, but fun (dick was in space at the time with the titans, tamaran i think)
i do just want to give a warning for nightwing 2016, it gets weird from issue 50 onwards. there's a period where the comics shift massively (#50-77 no spoilers) and then the current run by tom taylor is fine but misses a chunk of his character. i still like it but it's not the best thing for his character
OMG i forgot about titans runs lmao. ngl, i haven't read that much titans so i will leave that to one side so any experts can accurately recommend. i will say that i have enjoyed the very recent worlds finest: teen titans (2023) limited run a lot, back in the robin days, deals with dick and bruce's relationship and his relationships with the team. (also wally is there and i love wally)
TL;DR
start with nightwing 2011 and work forwards moving to grayson and then to nightwing 2016. then go back and read the older stuff
i have absolutely missed a lot BUT this is kind of my "short n sweet" run down, iconic dick grayson is like, most of dick grayson, so it's hard. the common advice (and what i did) was new 52, grayson, rebirth
tbh this is like a basics list, the required reading if you will, not that you need to read any of it but if you do want to, this is a good starting point. a lot of the runs have these crossovers, like robin war and death of the family (not the jason one, this is a weird vol 3 thing), so you get to read other comics too for those issues)
also sorry for the just random other non-nightwing comics, i got excited
i definitely forgot some stuff, again i'm sorry, but go vibe with dick and have a good time and also your fic?? if you'd be willing to share??? i'm always looking for new stuff to read (do not feel pressured into sharing it if you don't want to tho)
i hope you enjoy your nightwing experience, it can seem overwhelming but take it slow, comics aren't that long, and just remember that even yj and WFA are better than nothing (or the live action titans /hj)
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Sid :O
I really need a sane person rn
Just met Wyynde in YJ ^-^ I'm glad something good finally happened in Kaldur's life
That was fun! And I think Connor and M'gann are getting married! Cute!
aren't they just the cutest? i love them together, i don't remember how much detail they go into but im pretty sure it was an enemies-to-lovers situation.
and despite my love for martians in comics, i have a hard time liking m'gann in young justice, i just feel like she's been awful to connor, shaping him into exactly who and what she wants... i dunno, i want to love them so bad but she just seems like such a manipulator at some points. makes me feel weird. curious to know if you feel the same or not, id love to hear your opinion!
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I gotta be honest Chief, your fics and headcanons are my absolute favourite
You have such a clear (and realistic) understanding of Bart's persona and tbh if Jay and Bart were given more screentime during his time with building the cosmic treadmill I feel like AAIT would be EXACTLY like what would have happened
(You absolutely nailed chapter 10 with Bart and Barry's conversation btw, your understanding of them is WILD)
Seeing you post a new update on Ao3 or on here just makes me so happy because you really make us think about certain aspects of Bart we've never really thought of before
In short, you're awesome. Keep doing what you're doing, but most of all, have fun with it!
omg (/// ̄  ̄///) wow !!! thank u so much, this is really incredible for me read 😳 like sure i try to keep my writing relatively rooted in some type of YJ / real world / comics blend of realism because it rlly motivates me to develop those concepts/HCs in those contexts soooo much, but its always an underlying type of worry whether i’m carrying it out properly in any way or if it’s even interesting, so im rlly so glad that u enjoy it :) <33
i rlly appreciate ur kind words especially since i try to go for that balancing act between wanting to explore different/“new” themes and plot but also attempting to keep it somewhat “real” . Idk this is the type of stuff that rlly speaks to me so the fact that u mentioned this, it’s very encouraging !
it’s funny, the biggest cause of delay to the AAIT update was the barry bart scene, especially since it was building up to that point. idk if it’s because my flash fam fics reading is limited to bart centric fics or not, but because of bart’s background it’s like there is an overcompensation that sometimes the general dynamics there are just too positive/stable for me, even (if not especially) for a super hero/powered family. I love conflict and tension and all that and i think it’s realistic to have that in a loving family as well. even for generally amazingly good ppl like jay. to be fair those fics r usually feel good/comfort stories so it makes sense, but for characters like bart who i think has some type of edge to him (lol) i just think conflict suits him a lot 😂 because he is someone who seems to be easy to get along with and broadly seems so well integrated!! but he also just can’t be removed from things like his in series origin story and his literal childhood, which i think is just such an incredibly interesting contrast to how he’s settling in in his current time and leads to a lot of cool stories. it’s like so many ppl seem to agree on, it’s rlly easy for his peers/friends/family to forget or not even know about his background, so to them some of his actions/thoughts can randomly appear inexplicable, whereas to the audience, they’d make so much sense. That type of dissonance is just so cool and makes for interesting fic material !
anyway i’m getting way carried away lol, thank u so much again !! this really made my day ❤️
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moss might i please have some trans tim headcanons. or trans kon if you’re feeling it.
Hii blink thank you blink i always have those<3
Kon is nonbinary and transfem to me and i do have a more specific way this happens in mind which is he starts questioning his gender after already figuring out hes not straight, and this is a few years down the line post sb 2011, so hes getting comfortable living on the farm and having a group of friends there, being a part of the kent family (hes never had a family before!!) and its because of that new personal comfort and safety that he can think more about himself as a person and not just. An icon with a role.
I read his tt03 era as his big Repression Period (along with cassie) where he figures he has to be a Normal Real Boy so he ditches the 90s superboy charm for a more traditionally masculine look, which maybe works for his secret identity but isnt what he actually enjoys. So later he starts growing out his hair and tiptoes around more flashy costumes which are daunting now, because kon has a lot of hate for his younger self for being foolish and a try hard, and this all reminds him of himself back then.
Its a slow process but he will get there eventually and i think living with ma helps a lot. Being away from the public eye and with someone who wouldn't judge him for not wanting to look as masculine would do kon wonders. Also he hangs out a lot with the yj girls, and i imagine cissie would eventually she starts putting makeup on him for funsies (and bc cassie doesnt let her) which kon has many feelings about. No worries! Anita braids his hair like she did cissies so many times and kon goes haha does this mean im one of the girls now as a joke and then has many feelings about that too bc what if he Wants to be one of the girls? Uh oh
I have less of a specific timeline for tim so some scattered ones are:
It would take her a long time to make peace with being trans and to come out, bc imo tim would not be a fan of the Coming Out Process. Would hate to do it. Would only do it once its the last feasible option bc shes sick of lying (again) and being seen so wrongly by everyone. I think she just writes cassie a note or something like it would be funny.
Jack having been so obsessed with tim being his perfect masculine son would make all of this especially hard but also make certain stuff make more sense in retrospect. Its impossible to think about tim being queer in any way without thinking back on jacks behavior.
Theres a v sweet image in my head of helena braiding tims hair bc once she lets it grow out tim does not know what to do with it and helena has to do something about that (set in a future where helena knows tims identity. The cowl doesn't really show hair. But boy it must be sweaty gross in there).
While i think kon would be big into makeup and all sorts of fun clothes and shoes i dont imagine tim being That much into it, is not as much of a makeup girlie, loves a nice dress but mostly for occasions and such.
One of the reasons why itd take her so long to figure herself out is she mostly didnt get body dysphoria until she thought of the possibility of Not Being A Man and then started noticing little things that bothered her, bc tim would be very aware of which traditional standards for being a woman she is not fulfilling. Very aware of and held back by the Issue Of Bodies And How They Are Perceived, as you do.
The initial realization would probably be something sudden that she refuses to think about for a while bc tim v much lives by that post thats like i may be trans but i have a job so idc about that rn. Its in the back of her mind and she is Not examining it when there are bad guys to punch out there.
#I have to note that i dont believe in skinny kon and this goes twice as hard for transfem kon#Just bc hes not a man doesnt mean he loses all his muscle mass and body fat come on#Anyway yay thank u tb. I love thinking about trans hcs always and forever#Ask
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YOU DIDNT ASK so im sorry in advance (especially because i wont be explaining this well) But. ill be so honest i dont think the t-shirt kon is bad in a vacuum like it could be cute 😭 i do think its genuinely kinda fun when the characters wear their own little merch. the t-shirt outfit is even kind of funny because hes literally just wearing a t-shirt and jeans 😭 i love kon no matter what!!
but in the context of the transition from young justice (the comic) and the gang "graduating" into the teen titans (vol.3) i feel like it was a regression for him. idk i read into kon and transness+being lgbt too much so ive seen interpretations of it being his internalized homo/transphobia because its also a time where he has a secret identity for the first time in small-town america... and i do enjoy that, but it was Not intended by the writes (especially considering who was writing him in the mid-late 2000s)
kon's character to start off is really about identity and the reclamation of it when he was intended to be a Thing, and how he struggled under the weight of acting like he thinks he should/expectations placed on him (especially because he did not have an alternate identity or a name at first, he was just superboy. THEN kon el and conner kent) and how he expresses himself by replacing a tag cadmus put on him with a gold earring and generally dressing in a flashy and flamboyant and alternative way
so then when we transition to the teen titans kon, they sort of......strip him of that expression of personality. hes put in a t-shirt and jeans. they take away his earring. hes put in a relationship w/ cassie sandsmark (who btw. is very wlw coded to match him in the YJ comic, and both of their designs suffered what we call the cishetifcation) that is ultimately so bad for their characters (meanwhile kon is written into the most gay coded friendship w/ tim drake for like. a decade.)
and the young justice cartoon is an adaptation that was attempting to take the teen titans run from the 80s i believe? and young justice 98-2003, AND the 00's teen titans run. (decades of story to work with and way too many characters and groups, leads the cartoon to, in my opinion, suffer from a too many cooks situation)
and it does not handle kons character very well at all either </3 AND they used the t-shirt design while sticking him in a very unhealthy relationship w/ a character hes never really interacted w/ much in the comics. so umm. TL;DR very mixed feelings on t-shirt conner
i do recommend reading young justice though <3 (AND IM GLAD YOU LIKE MY DESIGN !! tysm <333 the curly hair is a must <3) sorry for the essay i just wanted to expand on why i put the t-shirt boy in the "sigh" categories 😭
ah, when i said i liked t-shirt conner, i didn’t mean the outfit, i was specifically referring to the young justice cartoon’s characterization ^^; i do acknowledge that it was a mixed bag that was forced to cherrypick years of history as an adaptation, and i get why conner fans don’t see him as Their Conner, but i’m gonna be so real with you. i liked him a lot in the cartoon 😭 as a standalone show, the first season does a rly good job of letting you understand his struggles and thought process, there were a lot of moments that endeared me to his angst while also letting him still feel like a kid. but i think i’m also biased towards characters that default to anger as a trauma response (completely unrelated to recent events believe it or not! wacky coincidence tho! foreshadowing even…?)
conner and m’gann’s relationship was def not the most interesting to me, but it’s also not the worst one. i have other biases against. other couples. but i’m curious to see how it develops bc unhealthy or not, i wanna see how it affects the characters, ykwim? like i’m not in it for the shipping, even if we All know there’s a better conner ship U__U
idk i just feel worn out by comics cynicism bc while i get it (i’m a hal fan, by god do i get it), i also don’t want to treat anything in dc too sacred. it’s more fun for me personally to view new iterations/adaptations as puzzles to work out rather than view them as character assassinations if even that. there are some truly unsalvageable things out there, but i generally think there’s smth good to gain in everything. and the young justice cartoon gave me a t-shirt conner to gain in my heart, so i can’t fault his character change too much as drastic as it is
all of this to say tho: the alt look is obviously superior. NOTHING beats a cropped jacket <3
#danswers#long post#dc#yja#conner kent#the cadmus tag > earring symbolism did make my jaw drop tho i didn’t know abt That#anyway i hope i’m not sounding dismissive of your passion! i think it’s very justified and i admire your dedication to the character#i mean if *i* met someone who only knew hal from the dcamu i’d sure as hell feel a certain way abt it#but even then… dcamu hal is the sole reason i got back into dc#and i still reference some of his characterization and ideosyncracies from those movies!#idk i think i just prefer to see comics wholly as a character map#where there’s a target at the center that you can build and identify the in-character-ness#so instead of holding any era of comics as the single truth to compare everything else to#it’s just one of many truths#if that makes sense#tbh this is smth ive been thinking abt a Lot (literally talked to f0r abt this last night) so i’m just using this as a jumping off point#i appreciate the context tho! even if i like the yj cartoon as a standalone it’s still important to know the environment it was made in#oh but also. it’s an old old show for me idr the later seasons#so no spoilers for my rewatch pls ^__^#and obviously i’m coming from a non-conner reader pov so take this with a grain of salt
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maybeee V, X, and Z? :]
fandom meme :D
hiiii lex! thank you !!!!
V - 3 OTPs from 3 different fandoms
well i answered my dndads one earlier, so thats cheating. lets see, what fandoms am i in LOL (me <- guy who hopped quickly from a years long hyperfix to my current dndads hyperfix so all my other interests are mush in my head).
Dimension 20 - Evan Kelmp/K "Dream" Tanaka <3 I absolutely adooore them and it makes me sad there's not more content for them!!!
All For the Game - Andrew/Neil/Kevin !!! kandreil my guys of all time. literally a life-changing ship for me. i think about them on a weekly basis at minimum
Young Justice - I'll be honest, I did not watch past the second season. BUT for the start of YJ/Batman in general! Nightwing/Kid Flash! I literally have fan art I drew in high school of them on my wall still LOL
X - top 5-10 characters who are yoUR PRECIOUS BABIES AND YOU WILL DIE DEFENDING THEM
oh my god UHHHH
NICKY HEMMICK (aftg) HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG. EVER.
Carol Wilson (dndads) <3 no elaboration needed.
Ylfa Snorgelsson (dimension 20) is my daughter and is always correct when she chooses to kill someone
Beverly Toegold V (naddpod)! literally the epitome of this question to me. hes my precious baby, my actual son, he has grown and developed from all of his mistakes and hes turning into such a lovely young man and i am just so proud of him-!
Erlin Kindleaf (naddpod) and while we're talking about beverly! obligatory erlin mention because he lives in my head rent free. boy i love you so much.
Blue (this is how you lose the time war) <333 ive only had blue for like, 50 pages so far but if anything happens to her, i am going to tear the universe apart. i know something is definitely going to happen to her but i need to live in obliviousness for now
grandma highforge (drawtectives) is actually perfect. actually just count 7 through 10 as all three of the drawtectives because they can do no wrong in my eyes
Z - Just ramble about something fan-related, go go go (prompts optional but encouraged)
i need you to know that youve sent me the most impossible questions for me specifically to answer. my mind goes blank whenever i get asked any questions like these. this isnt a negative, im having fun and this is exactly what i need rn, but i need you to know LMAO
more of a general fandom thing rather than anything specific, but i reeeally wanna get into fan-binding. i talk about this sometimes, but i actually specialized in bookbinding in school, and it makes me sad that i dont, like, have a reason to do it anymore? so i think getting into fan-binding would be so fun! plus i see some of the books people make and i am just BLOWN AWAY. ive always been very, like, utilitarian i suppose, with my books? my professors always say i make them plain, lol, so i love love love seeing the more inventive covers and bindings that people do!!! i really need to push my craft some more, so i need to like, find fanfiction to print out and bind. i have one in mind already, but its for a fandom i left, so it would probably function more as a gift for a friend than for me ^-^
#sorry this took so long. like a quarter of it was spent trying to decide what my rvb otp was#and then i realized thats an impossible question and chose a different fandom#ask#lex the lesbiann
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