#I’m not anti Rhaenyra

[spacerockfloater]

Daily reminder that Sunfyre and Aegon won three battles against three dragons and survived them all. They were literally undefeated.

Say whatever you want about Aegon but that man dived head first into battle even if he was at the brink of death and emerged triumphant every single time.

Fire cannot kill a dragon and all that, I guess. Isn’t that right Targ stans?

[daenerys-targaryns]

continuously intertwining rhaenyra with alicent was fine in season one, where they were directly at odds with one another, but trying to paint alicent as sympathetic to rhaenyra’s plight while rhaenyra is at the funeral of the son who was murdered by alicent’s is asylum worthy.

rhaenyra is grieving, jacaerys is grieving, joffrey, daemon, baela, rhaena, rhaenys, corlys are all grieving; alicent is NOT. she doesn’t care about rhaenyra, or she wouldn’t have waged war against her, raised her children to view their sister as the enemy, and usurped her throne. she especially doesn’t give a shit about luke, the kid she wanted to maim in revenge years before and the boy she viewed as both beneath her and not even as a true loss because he wasn’t human in her eyes. she thinks aemond is justified in lashing out, because he never received an ‘apology’ (i wouldn’t apologize either if i was a seven year old who thought my brother was going to have his head bashed in).

honor and decency were thrown out the window last season when alicent’s cause started murdering innocents over preconceived slights that SHE, personally, laid the groundwork for, and luke’s death is the result of that. she might be upset about her coveted ‘peace’ no longer being an option, but she doesn’t care about rhaenyra, her dead child, or the anguish that she is suffering through currently. he’s just an easy out for her to claim penance from her utterly idiotic decisions that keep killing people.

[the-daily-dreamer]

Ryan Condal you are so fucking stupid and I hate you so much.

Because how are you going to sit there and say Alicent recounted a fabricated version of Blood and Cheese to historians to make Rhaenyra look bad and that’s why you changed it.

The very same Alicent that you say has been humbled this season and betrayed her sons to help Rhaenyra.

How are you so stupid that you can’t even keep her characterization the same in your own brain when you rationalize your butchering of the story you were tasked with adapting. Which one is it? Is Alicent the humbled Rhaenyra helper who wanted to doom her male relatives. Or is Alicent the bitter Rhaenyra hater who destroyed her reputation in the histories. SHE CANNOT BE BOTH RYAN.

And if this is some weak attempt at saying Alicent will change again…FUCK YOU. Because you threw out her season 1 characterization completely for this season 2 humbled Alicent arc. Only to apparently throw it all out AGAIN for a queen in chains who hates Rhaenyra and will ruin her reputation arc for seasons 3 and 4. In which case WHAT WAS THE REASON. WHY DID YOU EVEN DO THIS. JUST KEEP THE CHARACTER CONSISTENT

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I’m just saying. That Ryan Condal is not even capable of figuring out who he wants Alicent to be. So he just uses his weird misinterpretations and hatred of Alicent to excuse every bizarre and stupid creative decision he makes. And all that does is make Alicent a character with absolutely zero consistency. Because she is Rhaenyra’s best friend, then she’s Rhaenyra’s biggest hater, then she’s Rhaenyra’s supporter again (the toasting scene???), then she’s a usurper, then she helps Rhaenyra, then she’s apparently going to hate Rhaenyra all over again and recount fabrications to history. And on and on it goes.

At this point just let Alicent hate Rhaenyra and be done with it. I’m tired

[atrwriting]

alicent: he said aegon’s name duh

rhae rhae: which aegon?!?! the conqueror?!?!?

alicent: *silent in i’m still in love w my childhood best friend slash step daughter*

rhae rhae: say sike rn

[lunasglow]

the irony of TG calling Rhaenyra a “boy mom” derisively is not lost on me , especially when covering up for and uplifting your rapist son is the most “boy mom” thing to do.

[drakaripykiros130ac]

Daemon and Rhaenyra are the main couple of the story called “The Dance of the Dragons”.

And yet, we have not seen a single photoshoot or interview with the two actors portraying them. In fact, since the whole series started, Emma and Matt have only had one interview together and that’s it.

Matt spent more time with Milly (who was only in it for five episodes).

You’re going to tell me that this is something completely normal?

And yet, who do we see Emma constantly having interviews and doing photoshoots with? Her queerbait pal, Olivia Cooke.

So, what I see is this: a canon heterosexual couple is being downplayed in favor of an invented/non-existent “queer” pair.

Tell me again that the show is not one big political propaganda.

I repeat, there are plenty of sites where you can watch girl on girl porn, if you’re into it. All those craving it, can get it done, no problem.

But keep your sexual preferences out of a well-established story.

If you’re desperate for representation, invent your own characters and do what you want with them. But leave canon characters people love, alone!

And as for Emma D’Arcy: do your goddamn job, and keep your personal opinions to yourself! You’re paid to act, not to criticize a book that is more famous than you will ever be!

[silmarillaure]

Saying this when Daemyra sons Aegon III & Viserys II’s bloodline produced Maelys “the Monstrous” Blackfyre is insane.

You should be more concerned about that grotesque second head than polydactyly and some autism.

[aurabora]

sorry to be the bearer of bad news but if you think aegon iii would have “healed from his trauma” with the daughter of his mother’s murderer then you’re delulu. the boy who wore black all his life? the boy that gave away jaehaera’s doll the first chance he got? the boy that was so discomforted by jaehaera’s presence that the maesters even noted how he was less discomforted by myrielle peake’s presence than jaehaera? it’s fine to have headcanons or whatever, but seriously. aegon iii would sooner ride a dragon than “heal” with the girl he was forced to marry.

[venusintheblindspots-blog]

I’m glad I’m not the only who noticed the pattern.

No cause the same. exact. people. that are freaking out over their VaLyRiAn KwEeN Ratnyra getting cheated on cream themselves over Riggatoni Tarpits and Becky with the Blue Flowers (two of the dumbest mfers in Westeros btw) cheating. Qwhite interesting.....qwhite interesting.

Anyway, this is why I need Nettles and Daemon to fuck in every position humanly possible with a 20 minute sex scene and I'm so serious.

You aren’t lying 👏🏽 Go on their blogs, Twitter, whatever and that’s usually the couple they stan after Dumbnyra 🙃That’s what makes them throwing a hissy fit and saying wHy dO yOu WaNt NeTtlEs wItH aN oLd wHiTe mAn all the more obvious 🙃

And they try to justify it by saying that Elia was cool with it cause she’s Dornish 🤦🏽‍♀️all the while their Valyrian queen was the actual one who was fine with her husband “cheating” just so long as the woman was Valyrian 😗 Again they are a bunch of moronic racists who think we are somehow dumber than them🤷🏽‍♀️

🙌🏽 In S3 we better see Daemon rocking Nettles world in every other scene they have 😜

[starry-eyer]

i’m genuinely shocked by this:

how can someone miss the point by such a large margin that they end up implying that Rhaenyra’s cause would have had no positive impact on the women of the realm?

how can one’s thought process be so far removed from the actual reality? is this the inconsistent logic one must tangle in to become a green? have these people never sat in a history class before?

jeyne arryn anyone? does she not exist to them? a point actually made in the book (not one twisted by the greens to advance their agenda) was that her rulership of the vale would’ve been seriously endangered and put into question if the greens won. but that is conveniently ignored by these interesting… folks.

i can understand the anger this person has with the horrible dance of the dragons adaptation and its treatment of female characters. and i mean it. especially when i say female characters. because alicent isn’t the female character who’s actually getting the shortest end of the stick. it was rhaenyra and rhaenys who were the most grievously declawed. rhaenyra is queen. her council is supposed to be her council. the war is supposed to be her war for her throne, not for some stupid prophecy that should’ve logically been lost a long time ago. and rhaenys is a baratheon with a temper and a dragon rider who would’ve burnt the greens and melted their bones if she had the chance. but for some reason the show decided to make a whole new character and slap rhaenys name on it.

to be clear: rhaenyra and rhaenys were powerful in their own right. they had dragons and were a part of the royal dynasty with claims to the throne. their power is theirs. it is derived from them.

alicent’s power is derived from the power of the men she is related to. that’s literally what the queen dowager title means. her influence is dependent on if the men in her life and her children listen to her. they don’t have to, and many characters don’t listen to her in the book, which is why i say she wasn’t the most grievously declawed.

it’s also hilarious that this person considers the queen dowager position to be the most powerful position in the greens court. they must have never read a cersei chapter as she faces her loss of power, which showcases the fickle nature of the power women hold in the westerosi patriarchy.

the correct sequence of power in the greens court is: the usurper king. then the hand. then the princes, specifically the usurper kings brothers, and then the queen consort, as they have dragons and claims to the throne. then the lords who can call on armies and fleets and have coffers that run deep. then the queen dowager, who has little influence outside of kings landing and therefore not as much influence in court as others.

the case the screenshotted post tries to make is that non-targ women’s positions aren’t advanced by rhaenyra being queen, which, as i pointed out above, is not true, nor is it what rhaenyra is fighting for. rhaenyra fought for her throne, which she had a legal claim to. that’s all. many houses joined her instead of joining the usurpers because of many different reasons, but, imo, three of the most important reasons for joining the blacks/staying neutral were 1) women’s inheritance rights (and women in general) should be respected 2) the head of the houses heir and the heirs right to inherit should be respected 3) oaths should be respected.

i also want to point out that women, most obviously targaryen women, did lose power after rhaenyra’s death and due to the concessions made to the greens and their ideology by the blacks for peace along with anti-rhaenyra propaganda that set women’s inheritance rights and the general power they could hold back by quite a lot.

and funnily enough, we see this first with jaehaera, who, while was a queen, was most likely murdered by the character who was supposed to be guarding her because no one gave a shit about a targaryen girls status and the potential consequences of killing her because they knew they could get away with it; and her death directly led to alicent’s line ending. the reality is that there were practically no consequences, as it seemed to have been easily covered up as a suicide, because the targaryens lost so much power after the dance, which directly put the targaryen women in the line of fire. if the targaryen women couldn’t be used they’d be discarded. and jaehaera, a simple girl who’s entire family was all dead besides one, and who’s father was greatly disliked by many, was an eyesore to those who wished for more power. so she was killed. brutally.

and the reason the women of house targaryen were so vulnerable? it’s because they had no claim to anything anymore! no one could try to use jaehaera for power so no greedy lords sought her favor nor did any want to protect her! and jaehaera is just the start because afterwards we get the maidens in the vault, then viserys ii is installed over daena, and then everything about naerys and her horrid husband, maekar over daenora, and eventually everything concludes with young princess rhaenys and rhaella over a hundred years later. tragic.

it’s literally downhill after rhaenyra’s death.

[stabbythespaceroomba]

I must be the dumbest guy here, I’ve just put together why Aeron and the Brackens were so set on the Greens.

I’ve been so confused bc they seem like men of honour first or foremost, yet I doubt Aegon’s behaviour is a well kept secret, even in the Riverlands.

It’s not just to be contrary to Blackwoods but because of Jerrel’s death.

Like of course “your false Queen Rhaenyra is a kin slayer” hit so hard for a Bracken to say. It goes hand in hand with “your Queen walked off while my kin lay dying in front of her”

“Your Queen let a Blackwood kill one of us and didn’t even condemn him”

“If your queen let one of us die in front of her, why would she try to safe guard us as her soldiers? She didn’t even care about us dying In front of her”

Like ofc they swung Green!

[meanqueens]

personally, i think one of the most bonkers takes i’ve heard in the “alicent was beefing with a child” vein is that everything in F&B regarding rhænyra’s sexuality was started by alicent to “slander and sexualize a child”, and this is definitive bc F&B is maester propaganda didn’t you know????

(you’re gonna look me in the eye and tell me that all the misogyny of the people of westeros is actually just this one woman?????? be so for real)

[daenerys-targaryns]

“at least he FOUGHT in the war what did ur queen do hm sit on her ass and eat cake 🤓👆” buddy boy your king was turned into applebee’s barbecue in his very first battle and spent over a year high on the medieval equivalent of opioids only to be ambushed in his second battle and lose to a thirteen year old little girl on her equally baby dragon i wouldn’t be talking shit if i were you

[the-daily-dreamer]

When team black’s very own perfect male wife, Daemon Targaryen, goes behind his wife’s back, overrules her decisions, and stains her reputation…

I been trying to tell team black that daemon ain’t a male wife for the last year to no avail. That man has not once given a crap about Rhaenyra or what she wants or believes in. He believed that grooming her would lead to her being subservient to him and bending to his will so he could be king.

He’s acting like he’s king. Because in his eyes he’s the real power. It’s why he chokes her when she isn’t decisive like he wants. It’s why he makes ulterior plans without her permission to get what he wants. It’s why he ignores her when she needs him in pain and fear and grief. And most importantly, it’s why he sullied her name.

He is angry that he is behind Rhaenyra in succession, angry that he relies on her claim to get himself and his blood on the throne, angry that he has to answer to her instead of the other way around. So he will destroy her claim and her reputation so that he is more loved than her.

If you wanna be a fan of daemon because he’s just a bad person and you like how bad he is…go ahead. But I’ve had enough of the team black “perfect innocent meow meow male-wife girl dad daemon” narrative. He’s a pedophile, a predator, a misogynist, a wife beater and murderer, and a genuinely despicable person who just had a child killed to suit his blood lust and hatred as well as to ruin the reputation of the woman he resents for being more than him. At this point, you’re all stanning a man who is everything you wish team green would be and your hypocrisy is showing

[thevelaryons]

This show never allows Corlys the right to his grief. Each time, he tries to express his grievance, he is shamed into submission.

Season 1 Episode 10:

Corlys is angry over the death of his son and also his brother. But he’s not allowed to express his feelings on the matter.

He actually gets shamed for abandoning his family (purely a show invention and now I understand the reason why).

Season 2 Episode 5:

There are several similarities to the scene from season one. Corlys is once again denied the right to express his grief (apparently it’s dehumanizing towards his wife who he is treating as a thing by shedding tears over her!). He is always presented as the unreasonable one unnecessarily blaming Rhaenyra. Baela is compared to Rhaenys in this scene and there is a clear purpose behind this writing choice.

Once again, Corlys is shamed for abandoning his family (literally never happened in the book but it’s obvious now that it’s a plot point invented by the show runners to make Corlys look bad). His family’s suffering is Corlys’ fault apparently and the writers have managed to cleverly deflect attention away from Rhaenyra every single time.

[lunasglow]

HotD presents two individuals who suffer at the hand of the same patriarchal system set to make them suffer when they rebel (Rhaenyra) AND when they're complacent (Alicent). That is the central issue and the tragedy of Alicent's unjust & now hypocritical vitriol towards Rhaenyra.

"Rhaenyra the entitled whore, Alicent the deserving saint" is not only a repulsive mindset and textbook misogyny, it's also so far removed from the point being made by making them parallels in this adaptation. People who buy into it are simply not interacting with the core themes of the story.