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Just blocked a bucktommy fan (or should I say anti-buddie fan?) comment on my post about how I can ship buddie but I can’t demand it to be canon???
Excuse me (your preferable courtesy titles), why are you encroaching on my territory when I’ve never even talked about bucktommy before?
I mean, I refuse to tag or post anything about your ship, canon or not. So, why are you telling me what to do in my own fandom space?? Stop sending anonymous texts.
Like, don’t make me your enemy, dude. You’re doing your thing and I’m not saying shit about it.
#shut the front door#where do people get the audacity?#I’m buddie shipper through and through#like from the moment I realised Ryan is not the boy next door#block the buddie tag if you don’t wanna see buddie shit#I’m not even in their fandom space at all#mind boggling#excuse me??????#eddie diaz#911 abc#evan buckley#buddie#buck x eddie
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Blocking every former and supposedly on the fence Buddie shipper who feels the need to tag Buddie on their posts where they claim to want Buddie to happen so badly or are in a dilemma about it going canon, because they’ve, “Seen the toxicity in the fandom and can’t take it anymore.”
Bullshit. They’re making up excuses to jump ship, when it’s really not necessary.
If you don’t want to ship Buddie, don’t ship them. It’s not against the law. It won’t get you excommunicated from the 911 fandom either, but it will make you look like a fool for acting like: 1) you didn’t know there were toxic fans in the fandom to begin with — as there are in all fandoms, or 2) there aren’t any toxic fans among the BuckTommy fandom.
You can’t claim to be tired of toxic Buddies for saying BT is bland or lack chemistry or LFJ is ugly or whatever else, when there are BT shippers saying the same exact things about Buddie and RG. Both sides have toxic fans, the only difference is that BT shippers currently have canon on their side, so those of you jumping ship are able to feel more validated in leaving.
Fans wanted Buck to be queer for nearly as long as the show has been out, and not once has anyone really shipped him with other people. Josh here and there, Connor occasionally, and that one prophet who wrote about him and Tommy. But majorly, it’s been Eddie. As such, toxic fans have been toxic when it came to any and every relationship either of them were in, so what makes Tommy any different? Did y’all really expect all the toxic fans to be happy with yet another love interest they weren’t looking forward to?
Not only that, but again, there are also toxic BT shippers, and fun fact! They didn’t pop up out of nowhere nor were they born out of defense of Buck and Tommy’s extremely new coupling.
I promise you, those same people were die hard Buddie shippers waiting with bated breath for Buck or Eddie to kiss each other or a man in general. They got it with Buck, so now they feel the need to belittle everything that came before in hopes that Tommy won’t be written out. They don’t care about character development or chemistry or Buck as an actual character either, proven by the many many posts across Tumblr, Twitter, and Tik Tok framing them as in love and smitten.
Claiming Eddie doesn’t mean anything to Buck. Claiming Tommy was a knight in shining armor. Claiming (and this is truly the fault of lazy writing and Tim and co trying to give themselves an out for under developing BT) Buck not talking about Tommy is a sign of happiness.
BT is sexual attraction first and foremost, and that’s all we know. Which is fine, I’ve said before, s8 will hopefully expand on them and their relationship if that’s the plan, but until then, there’s nothing there. Meaning there is nothing about the ship to defend the way some of their fans are doing, but somehow that’s more acceptable than Buddie fans defending Buddie? Sure.
Point is, if you’re jumping ship, go ahead. You don’t need to explain or more aptly worded, lie about why. Toxic fans exist on both sides. Most of you would just rather deal with the ones on the canon side of things, because it helps you feel better. Less embarrassed or anxious, maybe? I don’t know, because regardless of if Buddie ever goes canon, they’re not real, and there is no reason to feel anything if it turns out their shippers were wrong.
But I have to ask, what’s going to happen if BT does end? What will be the excuses for all the trash talking and belittlement of years worth of theories? What will y’all say to rectify putting one toxic group on a pedestal over the other? Because that’s what’s happening. BT shippers are being given full clearance to act like shit to people simply because their ship is canon, so what happens if that changes? What happens if Buddie does go canon? Where will all the high and mighty attitudes go?
#911 abc#buddie#I’m just saying most buddies are prepared#for BuckTommy to go into s8 possibly#even until the mid season finale but BT#shippers are not at all prepared for them#possibly being broken up and Tommy#being written out in the finale or in 8x01#so I’m just curious how y’all gone act if#this shiny new toy is just a shiny new toy#or will y’all throw tantrums and claim Tim#is giving into fan service and baited y’all#although keep in mind he has already said#he’ll write Buddie if he found the right#story to tell with them so at the very least#y’all should be thinking about that#instead of acting like what we’ve seen thus#far is solidified endgame despite not yet#knowing if LGJ is contracted for s8 or if#BT will make it through the finale
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i need to remake my cup bros ref… both cup and human designs… it’s been almost a year(?) and i’ve developed the headcanons and i would like to share with the class!!! (i wrote thirty tags. Please help me)
#my little hc i kinda showed in the refs but didn’t point out: cuphead’s handle appears broken/in human form his ear is halved#cause he has microtia (that also affects the eustachiantube/middle ear). basically i am a HoH cuphead truther#also to add onto that i think he has poor auditory processing issues cause i also see him as AuDHD#double also. while he would use ASL on a bad hearing day i think regularly he also uses home signs to express words/concepts#autism-related btw. it’s actually a bit visible in insert cuphead media (to me at least LOL) that cuphead expresses a lot of body language#so not liking conversation oral or signed as well as replacing oral words w home signs is in character. at least to my headcanon whatever#floats your boat!#OH! plus his split upper lip that i draw him with isn’t related to the microtia. he just roughhouses and chipped/tore his lip open when he#was younger#cuphead is also a trans boy. it feels right to me LOL#even back in 2017 when i barely knew the game or also much about trans people i saw cuphead and was like hm. hm!#tbh he just pawned his clothes onto mugman. who i’ve also changed my hc for i see him more as bigender than a cis boy now#LOL. i cast bi on mugman. sorry buddy#OH HIM TOO. im so sorry mugsy i have like two headcanons for you 😭😭😭#she uses he/she 2 me. i like casting personal parts of myself onto mugman even if i gravitate more towards cuphead/chalice#i see him as a bi ace as well. and a hopeless romantic. i don’t ship uhh i don’t remember what it’s called#i don’t ship cala maria X mugman (respect though) cause i see the cups as kids and i’m also a hilda X maria shipper LOL#but in the show. i will be real that she is a hopeless romantic. Look at that dork#FORGOT TO MENTION. i am a cuphead aroace truther to my grave. KEEP THAT MUSHY ROMANCE OUT OF MY HIGH SEAS ADVENTURE!!!!#like i said w cuphead before mugman is AuDHD (they share. many genes LMFAO)#however the difference is that they express it in different ways; while cuphead’s is more linked to his hearing/social behavior#mugman’s is more related to her emotions. i see it through my headcanon colored glasses that especially in the show mugman has more#meltdowns between the two cups#he has high emotional sensitivity both in positive and negative ways; former as in being strongly attached to cuphead and latter as in#more prone to meltdowns as well as being very literal#which isn’t a bad thing of course. mugman we are shaking hands so hard we are the same#OK that’s all the ones i want to share right now. i also haven’t shared her human or cup design i did but i’m workshopping chalice!!!!!!#i am leaving her out intentionally she deserves her own post because i luv her so much#ok post over. twenty minutes dedicated to autism about the twins out of the trio#cuphead
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#Those shippers now saying that buck ‘needs’ tmmy to cement his bisexuality#but in the same breath trash on buddies for ‘making buck’s bisexuality about eddie’#huh???#some people have really got wrapped up in this parasocial relationship with lfj that they’re making tmmy god’s gift#having buck’s realisation happen after the kiss has really melted people’s brains. bc now they say that his bisexuality is CAUSED BY tmmy#he’s bi FOR tmmy ONLY. he’s bi BECAUSE OF tmmy#are you for real??? so hypocritical#buck’s bisexuality is not about tmmy. buck doesn’t ‘need’ tmmy to prove or cement his bisexuality#buck will still be bisexual even if he’s not with tmmy. i promise xx#this is why i’m struggling to be on social media for this fandom right now. even with blocking and filtering. bullshit gets through#not even getting into how They have jumped on the chance to trash eddie. over a ship that’s had 5 fucking scenes together#🤪🤪🤪
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ciaoo!! how about max's girlfriend being the biggest lestappen shipper and makes fun of him and he just plays along with her with all that norris inchindents recently they just purely gossip on their day off. probably like a domestic fluff. cooking and whatnot.
thank you. love your work btw, incredible stuff!!
Rumor Has It~Max Verstappen
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y/n leaned over the counter, watching as Max stirs the pasta sauce on the stove, the delicious aroma filling the kitchen. He’s trying to keep his focus on the bubbling sauce, but her relentless teasing has him breaking into a grin every few seconds.
“So… when’s the wedding?” she asked with an exaggeratedly serious tone.
Max side-eyed her, a smirk tugging at his lips. “Who’s getting married?”
“Oh, don’t play clueless” she said, folding her arms as she leaned a bit closer. “You and Charles. Obviously. The F1 power couple the world has been waiting for. Come on, Maxie, we all see the way you two look at each other.”
Max snorts, shaking his head. “You’re insane, you know that?”
y/n gasped with mock outrage. “How dare you dismiss my beautiful ship! I’m practically the captain at this point.”
Max laughs, finally giving up on stirring the sauce to turn and face her, wiping his hands on a dish towel. “Yeah? Well, if I’m marrying Charles, does that mean you’re left alone to dream about me from afar?”
She rolled her eyes, reaching out to poke his chest. “Don’t flatter yourself, Verstappen.”
Max caught her hand, tugging her a bit closer until there’s barely any space between them. “Then stop with the Charles jokes. He’d hate you for it, anyway.”
“Oh, he would not,” she insisted, brushing off his comment. “Charles has a sense of humor. You two are just too shy to admit your feelings. Besides, I’m sure he’s off gossiping about us right now. Maybe with Lando. You know how much Lando loves a good rumor.”
Max raises an eyebrow, stifling a chuckle. “You think Charles and Lando gossip about us?”
“Oh, please,” she said, waving her hand. “I bet they’re talking about all the hot drama from the paddock. Anyways, apparently Lando’s ego has gone from medium to extra-large lately?”
Max sighs, rolling his eyes. “Don’t even get me started on Lando’s ego. Sometimes I think he just loves hearing himself talk. I mean, did you hear him the other day? Talking about how he was ‘definitely the best driver’ and that I got lucky in Brazil for going from 17th place to first?”
y/n let out a giggle, covering her mouth. “I know! I’m like, buddy, calm down. He’s sweet, but there’s a lot of ‘me, me, me’ going on lately.”
Max shakes his head, exasperation all over his face. “I swear, he’s like a puppy. One compliment, and he’s bouncing off the walls. And don’t even get me started on him dating Magui, the influencer who used to be with Joao Felix. The same Magui who cheated on him, like, a million times. Lando swears it’s not serious but come on.”
“Oh, he lives for it,” she said, rolling her eyes. “He’s totally wrapped up in her whole ‘cool, edgy, unattainable’ vibe, but she’s just trying to be relevant. You know she’s doing everything she can to become a WAG.”
Max snickers, pressing a kiss to her forehead. “And I thought we were bad at keeping things private.”
“Please, we’re saints in comparison,” she said, wrapping her arms around his neck and pulling him in closer. “And speaking of secrets…” she leaned in, voice lowering, “do you know how Alexandra and Charles met?”
Max raises an eyebrow, intrigued. “No, how did he meet her?”
“She was friends with his ex and her sister” y/n said with a sly grin. “Can you believe it?”
Max chuckles, shaking his head. “Guess Charles has a type—and a way of meeting them through friends. Wasn't Charlotte also friends with the girlfriend before her?”
y/n laughed, nodding. “Right? And I swear, Alexandra and Charlotte look exactly the same. It’s like he’s got a specific blueprint for girlfriends or something.”
Max’s arms slid around her waist as he pulled her even closer. “Seems like Charles might have some explaining to do.”
y/n leaned her head against his shoulder, feeling his warmth against her. “it's fun knowing everyone’s secrets. Like how Pierre’s girlfriend, Kika, has that whole beef with Magui. She can’t stand her.”
Max raises an eyebrow, a grin forming. “Why am I not surprised? Didn’t Magui basically try to become a WAG overnight?”
“Exactly. Kika can’t stand it. Magui’s been copying her style, her posts, everything since the two stopped being friends. I swear, she’s just trying to outdo Kika at being the ultimate F1 girlfriend.”
Max shakes his head with a chuckle. “Kika’s a sweetheart; she deserves better than that drama.”
She laughed, tightening her arms around his neck as he hugged her close. “You know, we could give Lando a run for his money in the rumor department.”
Max laughed, kissing her once more. “You know what? I’m okay with that.” He leans down, murmuring in her ear, “As long as I’ve got you.”
She can’t help the smile that spreads across her face as she pulled him in for a proper kiss. This was their little slice of paradise—gossiping, cooking, and just being together with Max, in this lovely, imperfect chaos that’s all her own.
#max verstappen#max#verstappen#formula one#formula 1#formula one oneshots#formula one oneshot#formula one imagines#formula one imagine#red bull f1#f1#f1 x you#f1 x reader#max verstappen x reader#max verstappen x you#red bull team#red bull racing#max verstappen x f!reader#max verstappen fanfic#max verstappen imagine#max verstappen fluff#max verstappen x y/n
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I’m a major buddie shipper, I didn’t ship bt that much (although I could accept that it was canon so I didn’t absolutely hate it if you gwim) and tbh Tommy wasn’t really a character that I was invested in. However I was genuinely so shocked when they broke up?? I was watching the episode and when Tommy went to the loft I was fully prepared for them to go on a date, especially with the way the scene began. Whilst I’m obviously not as sad as you or most bt shippers are, I was completely unprepared for them to break up, especially with the way it happens. I think the fact that I didn’t even ship them and even I’m disappointed with that scene really speaks volumes to the fact that the writing was just bad, there wasn’t much build up the breakup (except the basketball tickets, maybe Tommy not being part of the gc as a reach) and the episode before clearly showed their relationship was thriving, so I have no idea where the breakup came from at all 😭
and also Lou totally deserved better. I’m not really his biggest fan (that’s nothing against him at all, I just don’t really keep up with any actors that aren’t mains) but the fact that not a single person defended him is insane. The way people treat Buck’s LIs is mental and they all genuinely deserve sm better. I personally think that the cast need to get better at defending the people who have to go through this, or at least saying something so that people will stop.
sorry this is so long! I just wanted to say that I agree with yall that the writing for the breakup was just straight bad, and even I (a buddie shipper) am able to see that
thank you for your perspective! i get how people would not be so invested in lou or bucktommy or tommy, regardless of whether they ship buddie as well. so it’s nice to see someone else with more objectivity comment on how abrupt it seemed.
and the hate lou got for months was crazy. like genuinely so insane, people hated him so much and even lou said the worst thing that happened to him was that he got death threats but i’m ??? how is that not a worrying sentiment? that he got death threats for portraying a gay character in a mlm relationship. that people hated him so much to do things like that and much more. the online harassment to him was RELENTLESS.
he didn’t deserve any of that and neither did bucktommy. they didn’t deserve to be hated on so badly, regardless of whether people shipped buck with someone else. i’m gonna forever be bitter about it, and how the relationship ended.
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Okay listen, I get that I have little experience in the 9-1-1 fandom, but what in the actual hell is the weird response to the bucktommy breakup? It was never this weird with other love interest breakups right? Of Buck’s love interests, Abby and Taylor were the only ones developed enough to warrant any sort of strong reaction. Tommy had no development.
Seriously. What did we know about him?:
He’s gay. He’s a pilot. He has a history of sexism and racism. He likes basketball and Muay Thai. And….? We saw nothing of his personal life, we saw little of his personality, and we didn’t see him and Buck actually power through any obstacles. Because that was the point, he was a plot device. It was painfully obvious he wasn’t going to be a lasting love interest…was it not? I don’t mean how little he was developed (because obviously that dev could’ve been done), but because of how HEAVILY Eddie haunted the narrative. Bucktommy’s first kiss genuinely shocked the hell out of me and my casual viewer sis-in-law because both of us felt it was obvious that Buck was trying to get Eddie’s attention. (seriously, that whole scene with Eddie on the phone in the firehouse and Buck peacocking to try and get Eddie’s attention…That was fucking obvious. I got a bruise from how hard that smacked me in the face.)
I realize I’m a buddie shipper so I am biased, but I’m a buddie shipper BECAUSE that is what the narrative has led me to. However, when Tommy was reintroduced, I made an actual effort to like him. I tried not to engage with the Buddie majority that hated him because I wanted to see if my mind could be changed, and ya know what? All it did was make me believe that there’s literally nobody else that they can end up with. Whether it was accidental on the writer’s part or purposeful, Buck and Eddie have been written into a romantic corner with only one way out, and that’s through each other. (Unless they somehow introduce two love interests that can beat a 7-season long slow burn friends-to-lovers with insanely good late bloomer queer representation. lol.)
I’m genuinely trying to understand though. How are people going this insane over Tommy? What exactly did he do that was so fantastic and amazing that he deserved undying loyalty? The kind of loyalty that sparks people to write weird fucking messages on Oliver’s instagram about him being biphobic(???????) and then making jokes about deporting him and Ryan. What the fuck.
I could maybe understand the outrage if it was a character who was well developed and beautifully written (like Chimney or Hen), and I could even see it if it was a beloved side character (like Ravi or May), but. seriously. Tommy?
Anyway, normally I would say “eh who am I to judge what people get attached to?” But in this case I am a little bit judgmental.
#ooh is this gonna get me blocked? was I too mean?#I started this off trying not to be aggressive but I think by the end I was still aggressive#oops#I don’t fucking play about biphobia though#and Oliver has been NOTHING but respectful about queer rep#yall are freaking out over a boringggg plot device character PLEASE be serious#911 abc#911#buddie#anti bucktommy#rant post
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Only time I’m ever going to address one of these delusional people.
You couldn’t have made it clearer that you don’t give a damn about Eddie outside of Buddie.
This man has been going through hell. They couldn’t have made it any more clearer that he isn’t over his dead ex wife. He literally torpedoed his life just for a few moments with her doppelgänger. I get that doesn’t fit your ‘gay Eddie’ narrative. But that man isn’t over Shannon(at least the idea of her). They have shown us nothing to prove that he gotten any head way in moving forward.
Eddie himself hasn’t realized that is something he needs to deal with because right now his world revolves around repairing the most important relationship in his life - his relationship with Chris.
This man doesn’t have the time or emotional bandwidth to have revelations regarding his sexuality.
I’m not saying it is never going to happen cause never say never but it can’t be any clearer that it ain’t happening in 8A. His storyline for 8A is going to revolve repairing his relationship with Chris and dealing with his trauma.
I don’t know why I assumed that because these shippers liked Buddie, they also liked Eddie and Buck as individual characters but clearly I was wrong. It is also getting painfully obvious that some of you don’t care about Christopher or his relationship with Eddie beyond the ‘son’ role he plays in your ‘Buddie’ found family.
PS: if this upsets you and you want to leave an angry reply remember this post wouldn’t have been made if one of your fellow shipper didn’t tag their post ‘Bucktommy’. And unlike them I had the decency to not tag this ‘Buddie’ and use the appropriate tags.
Also #sorry I’m just telling it how I’m seeing it.
#eddie diaz#anti Buddie#not really since it’s mostly#anti buddie shippers#this is clearly not towards all Buddie shippers#but some of y’all need a reality check#and comprehension lesson#have they stopped teaching reading comprehension in America?#911 discourse#bucktommy
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Okay I watched the whole interview. Honestly I don’t know why anyone is worried. There was barely any talk about B/T. I still maintain if B/T was supposed to be a big deal and a long term thing for Buck it would have had more focus and a lot more press and it’s had very little even in Oliver’s solo interviews.
Another thing is I know B/T stans like to act like there’s so much chemistry between Oliver and Lou but I’m begging you to go watch this interview and then watch any Ryan and Oliver interview there’s just no comparison. It’s the same with B/T vs Buddie. Ryan and Oliver have this natural easy chemistry both on and off screen just from standing near one another that never feels forced or fake. For me this interview with Oliver and Lou felt forced at points. Like that they were trying to sell that they were friends when they maybe aren’t. I still get a vibe that Oliver isn’t a big fan of Lou and B/T. If he was I think we’d see him talking about the ship more and definitely posting more on ig about it and Lou but it’s always Ryan and Buddie.
I really think the whole point of this interview was just to get people to watch tonight’s episode and likely to solidify that T*mmy is coming back for s8. But even then like I said they barely talked about anything that went on with these two characters this season (most likely because hardly anything even did). Really at this point the press and investment in B/T and Lou by the show feels like an afterthought. I think T*mmy will stick around do exactly what he’s been doing be a plot device to Buddie eventually coming together.
Please don’t let this interview or whatever happens in these last two eps or whatever bs B/T shippers will be spewing get to you or make you feel like giving up on Buddie. Buddie is in the works we just have to get through the speed bumps like B/T to get there.
Also like I keep saying please make your voice heard. It’s so important right now that we get out there and talk about Buddie on social media platforms. We want to make sure the show knows we won’t give up on them and we won’t settle for seeing Buck in such a lackluster relationship when he deserves an amazing love with Eddie.
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i saw a post talking about picking between eddie or tommy and why we don’t let them love both. i’m a buddie shipper through and through, but i would actually like tommy if he wasn’t a horrible person. the problem with him isn’t that he’s not eddie, it’s that everyone who likes him seems to forget how horrible he was.
i get so angry because i would’ve loved to love buck’s first male partner. i started watching after 7x04 so i’d heard of tommy and i was so excited to meet him. . . you can understand my disappointment when i realized who this man really was. i don’t get why they couldn’t create a new gay man or bring back casey from hen begins. why bring back a problematic man? why are people so forgiving of his actions, because he’s making out with our fave?
yes, i’m anti tommy/buck because tommy himself is disgusting. it has absolutely nothing to do with eddie. i know there’s a thing going around that if someone says they don’t like one of their girlfriends it’s because the girls aren’t the other guy. if i say i don’t like abby, it’d be because abby isn’t eddie when in reality, abby was so so wrong in leaving the way she did. i don’t like abby, or taylor, or tommy. and it has nothing to do with eddie!
i actually like all of eddie’s girlfriends! why? BECAUSE THEY’RE DECENT PEOPLE!
if tommy was decent, there wouldn’t be such a big divide in the fandom. plain and fucking simple
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While I do not mind BuckTommy, I wish their shippers and anyone more partial to them than Buddie, would stop lying about what their relationship is.
Tommy does not prioritize Buck, he simply revolves around Buck. It is the whole reason why them having zero development this season was so stupid, because it left way too much room for fans to make their own decisions on what the relationship is or isn’t, and claim it as canon. It’s why people are already saying they’ll be mad of BT break up, because Tommy is Buck’s healthiest partner, when he’s not.
Tommy is not a character who has a storyline, let alone one who makes decisions that impact the overall story. Everything he does is a result of what the writers need Buck to feel or where they need Buck to be, and that does not make him a healthy partner. They just haven’t written any conflict for them, good or bad.
Thus far, their biggest issue was Buck stumbling through his first date with a man, where Tommy did in fact mock his nervousness then leave him standing in the curb alone. Now, I’m not hung up on that, because I can see why it happened. Buck was extremely nervous and being awkward and likely made Tommy feel bad a little bit, but at the same time, it was wrong of him and he didn’t apologize. And since snippy remarks is all we really know of Tommy, it does become canon that he isn’t actually that nice to Buck. No matter what Bobby said, because as I said before, I strongly disagree with the writers writing in their own cop-out as an excuse for failing to develop Tommy or BT during the season. So yes, Tommy is attracted to Buck and doesn’t treat him like shit, but none of Buck’s exes ever did either. Pretending otherwise is y’all trying to rewrite the show to uplift your ship.
All that to say, Buck and Tommy dating is canon, yes, but them choosing each other or making sacrifices for their relationship, is not. We have been shown quite literally nothing. Everything BT shippers claim for BT, does not actually exist in canon. Not a single bit about love, lust, infatuation, commitment, relationship goals. Nothing, and I wish more “on the fence” fans pointed that out instead of piggy backing as if it’s true. Y’all are hopeful, and that’s fine, I am too. I want Buck to be happy, but I also don't want to give Tim and co praise for doing less than bare minimum.
Buck coming out overshadowed the entire season this year in terms of press and social engagement, but the amount of story and screen time he got in comparison is abysmal. By lying about canon, y’all are giving credit where it is not due. I mean honestly, if someone were to put together a compilation of out!Buck, it would not amount to anything. More so, they’d have to pad it with Buddie scenes, which speaks for itself even if they never go canon.
Anyway, my point is, stop lying about canon, and stop hyping Tim, the writers, and ABC up for what is currently a pretty poorly written storyline. Be happy we got bi!Buck, but also want more for his queer relationship. Especially when his relationships with women came with various small scenes to build their foundation, and him talking to his loved ones about how much he liked them.
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Getting ready to drag out the old stan X/Twitter account cause wtf do you mean people who have watched the show for about two weeks & have only interacted with toxic buddie shippers are now jumping on the Tommy hate train?
There’s someone who got some traction live tweeting their watch about a week ago & it’s mind blowing to see them go from being neutral but into buddie to a full on easily led hater cause they’ve only interacted with vocal toxic fans.
Asking why people like Tommy when “all he did was be awful to Chim & Hen, apologise offscreen and kiss Buck”. If they just watched the eps about a week ago how did they forget that Tommy, Chim & Hen resolved their differences on screen & that Tommy literally risked his job & life to rescue Bobby & Athena just cause Chim asked.
You don’t have to love Tommy but the forced hate & ignoring his character development is frustrating.
It also is weird that they’ll double down on hating him over it all (& I know they’re doing it cause he’s the LI in the way of their ship) but hand wave away anything any of the other characters have done. None of them are perfect.
Plus, this whole virtue signaling narrative they’ve invented that he could have outed Buck to Eddie over a snarky closet joke that only Buck and the audience had context for - Eddie had literally just mentioned closet space - is so ridiculous it’s laughable. None of them cared when the episode aired but cause it’s gained traction within the toxic buddie fandom as something they can use to turn people against Tommy they’re now all jumping on to use it as a reason to hate.
I’m so so close to joining the few buddie and bucktommy/Kinley shippers over there I see trying to push back (& I do see you guys, I know you’re on here cause it’s a nicer environment, & I thank you for being willing to try to get through to those who are willfully ignorant). But while I like to vent here I really don’t want to engage with them.
#911 discourse#911 on abc#911#911 abc#tommy kinard#buck x tommy#bucktommy#911 show#shipping discourse#evan buckley
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#right so#firstly: oliver stark i love you please never stop#the way he talks about buck is so nice!! not to mention always reiterating that the show was queer before bi buck was confirmed#secondly: oliver stark i love you but please stop!!!#lmao. ben affleck smoking jpeg#i completely understand his reasoning behind what he says about tommy#he can’t confirm or deny anything and changes are he doesn’t even know anything. just like before#when he was waxing poetic about natalia and buck’s future#i just do not like the whole narrative of tommy being a perfect queer elder who can do no wrong and is there to guide buck through this#it’s a disservice to his character. and to buck’s#and to eddie’s if you really wanna go there#tommy is the perfect first boyfriend because he’s got experience. right? that’s what we’re saying?#experience does not equal perfection#and like i said the other day. it suggests eddie is not worthy of being a queer love yet because he has no experience#they hadn’t written the final episodes yet for a reason. they’re posting positive b/t posts on social media for a reason#they’re testing fan reactions to decide what to do with b/t. sorry but i genuinely think that’s the reason#and this characterisation of tommy as perfect and ideal for buck and they’re smitten etc#a second ben affleck smoking jpeg#i have nothing against tommy or b/t together or multi shippers. nothing at all#but i sweaaarrrrrr#if i lose out on the ship who have 6 years friendship and a history of getting through neg and pos experiences together#coparenting and saving each others’ lives. literally and figuratively#being so intrinsically linked to each other#not to mention oliver and ryan’s chemistry#if i lose out on that because people can’t stop screaming about tommy on social media#i will implode and take this place with me#especially because focusing on buck’s lovely new perfect relationship will probably mean that eddie is pushed aside#with a shitty storyline they put no effort into. wait what who said that that’s crazy#i agree that bi buck isn’t about eddie (it’s not about tommy either) and potential queer eddie isn’t about buck#but i’m so done with people saying we can’t hope the two storylines come together in the future. why is it suddenly bad to want buddie
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I do think certain Buddie shippers need to slow the fuck down and enjoy the ride. Buck hasn’t even said the word “boyfriend” yet and there are people that want him to break up with his boyfriend by the end of the season. I’m not going to claim to be an expert in reading the show’s intention but it does seem like Buck and Tommy will last at least until midway through season 8 now that season 8 is confirmed. Just narratively, this relationship is about Buck discovering a side of himself he didn’t know and rushing that is not healthy for the story or for his character.
You should want to see Buck happy with Tommy for a while because his story about gay joy is just as important as Eddie’s theoretical gay breakdown. It’s two sides of the same coin. That journey of Eddie suffering through breaking out of the box he and society and his parents put him in is better if in contrast to Buck continuing to have a boyfriend and being happy. It’s a light for the end of Eddie’s tunnel. Because Eddie will see 1) that it’s possible to be a firefighter and date other men and 2) to be a firefighter and date another firefighter 3) be a firefighter and date BUCK all while denying all those things to himself. BuckTommy only enriches the drama of Buddie especially if Eddie realizes everything while they’re still together.
#Buddie#Eddie Diaz#911 abc#slow burn means sloooowwwe burn#plus you have to remember that as far as Buck and Eddie’s queerness the show is working on a 3 season delay thanks to Fox’s meddling#because Buck was going to be bi in season 4 and it seems like season 5 was laying the groundwork for Eddie to be gay#but that was axed so now they have to do it all over again#and if their sexuality journeys were meant for 4 and 5 respectively then Eddie’s sexuality journey is going to take place primarily in 8
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okay, so i've seen some people claim that tim minear is an avid buddie shipper and that he's slowly but surely laying the groundwork for buck and eddie to become canon in the future and...
i'm just thoroughly confused about this assertion.
i'll preface this by saying i'm very new to the fandom, so i'm prepared to be wrong about this. i'm aware i may lack crucial context because i've been here only so long. also, i don't know tim personally, so i obviously can't speak to his true intentions, but i'll make my case anyway.
i'll cite two RECENT comments by tim that i assume people might draw this conclusion from:
[?: There is a sect of the fandom that just wants 9-1-1 to be the Buck and Eddie show, and any cut that removes a second of them is going to get the same reaction. Nothing short of renaming the show "Christopher's Two Dads" is going to make them happy.] T: I totally get that. I even appreciate it. Which explains the entire first act of last night's episode. I kind of did for the Buck/Eddie fans (I mean I really do it for myself in the end). I just thought... they'd like it? Shrug. I liked it, so whatever.
Minear tells Rolling Stone that he hasn’t just been aware of fan reactions, he’s actually changed storylines in the past to avoid being accused of queerbaiting. But rather than help, he says it made the show worse. “Nobody wants to be accused of queerbaiting so I kind of stopped writing those characters together. And I think it hurt the show because I was so afraid to be accused of something that I wasn’t going where I would naturally go with the stories,” Minear says. “I just decided that I just have to write the thing that I think is right. I just have to be honest with the story I’m telling and let the chips fall where they may.”
now, i may be biased, but this doesn't read to me like he plans on buddie endgame at all.
while it's clear he loves the bond between buck and eddie and enjoys highlighting it in the show, saying he totally wants them to end up together feels like a reach.
he discusses being accused of queerbaiting in the past, which led him to backtrack a little and stop writing buck and eddie together. how does this suggest he did it because he wants buddie to become canon? if that were his intention he could have continued to drop more (apparent!) hints that buck and eddie may love each other in a non-platonic way. he wouldn't care about the accusations of queerbaiting so much, because he would be planning to make them canon all along. sure, there are external constraints that could prevent this from ever materializing, but that doesn't mean he couldn't write the dialogue in a clearly ambiguous way so that once he gets a pass and everyone else involved is on board with it, he could confirm that "yeah, you were right; it was a good ol' friends-to-lovers slow burn trope all along. congrats!!" no. instead he backtracked because he didn't want anyone to think he was writing buddie as anything other than a platonic relationship. that's it. but he eventually realized it doesn't really matter because people are going to think what they want to think regardless. and he obviously loves buck and eddie's friendship so he might as well just make the most out of it at this point. and if he ever feels like maybe it is a good time to turn their friendship into something more because it feels right for story, he'll go for it. but if not, he won't.
i see a lot of people claim buddie is a six-season-long slow burn, being carefully crafted right now for future canonization. and they say tim basically confirmed this. but i really can't see his comments being a confirmation of the sort.
if there are any quotes i'm missing that suggest otherwise, i would love to go through them. so if anyone's aware of any, please don't hesitate to hit me up.
but at the moment i believe y'all are just setting yourselves up for disappointment.
#i'm half asleep writing this#i don't even know if this makes sense#anyway#i'm open to discussion#if anyone has any thoughts on this i'll happily read through them#bucktommy#not tagging the other ship for reasons#evan buckley#tim minear#daffy quacks
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I’ve seen lots of takes in the buddie side of tumblr and TikTok abt when buddie will go canon. And I have 2 things to say abt it
Before I go on this rant. this is me thinking logically. My thoughts on bucktommy vs buddie has no play in this rant
I’ve seen SO MANY people saying it will happen in the first couple eps. I’m sorry even if Buck and Tommy were to break up in the 1st ep and we never see Tommy again, buddie is still not going canon in the 3rd ep, hell not even this season, because it jst wouldn’t make sense. Cuz 1. Buck still has some things he needs to work out himself and 2. Even tho it took jst a kiss to make Buck realize, it’s gonna take way more for eddie. also were gonna be focused on Bobby and the event and so much more that I don’t think there will be enough space for the to put in a Romantic arc.
And unlike Natalia and buck, it would make no sense for buck and Tommy to break up. (Again not me thinking as a bucktommy shipper but me thinking logically) cuz they actually have things in common and Tommy isn’t obsessed with only one part of buck, he loves him all. So atm there’s no issues in the relationship (I’m not talking abt the name debacle, it’s not confirmed nor denied that buck has a problem w it so not counting it as a issue) so it would make no sense for a break up
And the second thing (Ik long rant srry) Eddie doesn’t need a new relationship. He needs help, professional help. He doesn’t need a gay awakening added onto his catholic guilt and losing his son. He needs therapy. And yeah buddie could be possible if he gets that help. But that means it’s not happening this season, even closer to the end it wouldn’t happen. Cuz yeah eddie can get help and work through his catholic guilt and trauma but it’s still going to stick with him and even if he was the greatest ally on earth, he was still raised in Texas. Those beliefs and things he was told growing up are always gonna stick with him. So it’s not gonna be easy to get him through a gay awakening and it wouldn’t make sense, even with therapy, for him to accept himself like buck did. So if buddie were to go canon it prob won’t be till end next season.
And final thing. Yeah ABC is a very open channel and did allow bi buck when FOX didn’t. But it’s still tv and ABC is still a big (greedy) company and they care abt their views. And while buddie becoming canon would boost the views a bit, it would cause more harm than good to rating and views making 2 of their biggest and hottest characters queer. And to the BoBs saying that they’ll stop watching if bucktommy stays. I would like to let y’all know that they don’t care. You are 0.01% of their veiwers. They don’t care if you leave or stay.
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