#I love Garmadon and his son
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Wu trained Morro at the same time that Garmadon was training with Chen which MEANS that Misako was around to see what the pressure of wanting and training to be the Green Ninja could lead to.
So later when she had Lloyd and KNEW that he would be the legendary Green Ninja, do you think she thought of the child Wu had once trained? The kid who became so obsessed with proving himself that he put himself in danger time and time again? The little boy who ran off into the night and never came back?
After seeing that, is it any wonder why she didn't want to leave her son-- the actual Green Ninja-- to be trained by Wu at such a young age?
Maybe a boarding school for bad boys would never make him want to be a hero. Maybe it would keep him safe from the destructive power of destiny. Maybe Darkley's was the only way to save her beloved son, Lloyd Garmadon, from himself.
Maybe Misako remembered Morro. And maybe, just maybe, she knew it would be best if her son never turned into someone like that.
#misako haters say “why didn't she just leave lloyd with wu where he'd be safe?!” as if morro didn't literally die trying to prove himself#no hate to wu either though#morro was his first student and also naturally ambitious so it's not entirely Wu's fault that he turned out Like That#also there is the thought that wu had like just barely banished Garmadon to the underworld and Misako was maybe kinda bitter about that#or at least she knew her son woild either find out and hate wu or he would grow to hate his father#and remember Misako left because she didn't want her son and husband to have to fight. she was searching for a solution#so of course she left lloyd in a place that would make him want to be on the same side as his father. even if he was trained to be good in#the future he still grew up with the love and respect for his dad in his heart#look i know Misako isn't perfect but y'all have to stop hating on her#she did her best when all she was given was absolutely terrible options#cookie crumbs#my writing#ninjago#ninjago misako#ninjago morro#ninjago garmadon#ninjago wu
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It just occurred to me to ask if anyone knows who even locked the Great Devourer away in the first place cause in the first season, the snake was literally underground and probably induced in a magical sleep (considering the fang blades woke it up.)
So far I’m theorising it was the FSM cause no one else really makes sense, and tbh if it was that makes me feel SOO aurghhhhh damn this family and my obsession over them.
I want Ninjago to tell me more about the FSM, fighting for more content smh
#imagine fighting the snake that bit your son#I wonder if some part of it was spite as well as getting rid of a danger in Ninjago#could u imagine#no one tell me the FSM hates his kids#he loves them but is shit at showing it actually#this is what the trauma of war does smh#ninjago#lego ninjago#sensei wu#ninjago wu#lord garmadon#ninjago garmadon#ninjago fsm#fsm ninjago#ninjago first spinjitzu master#the great devourer#ninjago theory
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Dragons Rising idea-
Lord Garmadon comes back, and he’s all determined to be such a good dad to Lloyd, but Lloyd at this point wants less than nothing to do with him: he’s done giving out second and third and fifth chances for this guy, and he has visions to deal with and friends to find and now his OWN kids to take care of. And Sora and Arin would offer two sides of the argument: Sora representing the idea of not forgiving Garmadon and cutting him out of Lloyd’s life like she did with her own parents, citing him as irredeemable and far too toxic. Arin representing the idea of forgiving Garmadon, as he would do anything to be with his own parents again, and he thinks Lloyd should give the guy another chance.
And finally Wyldfyre being the idea that maybe Lloyd doesn’t have to do either. Garmadon can still be in Lloyd’s life without being his parent or being at the center of it. He doesn’t have to forgive Garmadon, but he doesn’t have to eternally hate him either. He’s allowed to just get over him and start a new relationship.
I just think that Lloyd’s new kids representing his own turmoil with his father would be a neat idea and also good closure on Lloyd’s Garmadon angst. He’s been hung up on his dad for so long and I think he deserves to move on on his own terms - not because Garmadon disappears or dies or sacrifices himself or they absolutely need him so Lloyd is forced to get along. No stakes, just Lloyd and Garmadon and their fucked up relationship
#lego ninjago#lloyd garmadon#lord garmadon#Lloyd’s daddy issues#I want the to have a good father son relationship I do#but it won’t ever be what it used to be#and that’s OKAY#Lloyd deserves to be able to let go of that#Garmadon deserves the chance to actually redeem himself to his son and love him the way he CLEARLY wants to#they deserve to grow together and be happy without the past looming over them and the narrative dooming them#and the three kids being symbolic of the ways their relationship could go#total estrangement to total forgiveness to a secret third option#can you tell that I love the Garmadons#give Lloyd a dad without making him suffer for it#dragons rising#ninjago arin#ninjago sora#ninjago wyldfyre
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So like we’re just not gonna talk about how Garmadon’s whole life was spent doing horrific actions that he couldn’t help do as he’s burdened from the guilt of harming others and himself and pushing away everyone he so desperately loves and wishes to protect, and Wu’s whole life was spent trying to prevent Garmadon from doing something horrifically irredeemable and actively stopping him from harming others and himself whilst also drawing to the conclusion that his elder brother that he so deeply cares about has to be stopped no matter what and he became desperate to find a way to just end Garmadon because at this point its the only way to save him from himself?
‘Kay, guess we aren’t.
#lego ninjago#ninjago#wu ninjago#ninjago sensei wu#ninjago wu#young wu#garmadon ninjago#garmadon#emperor garmadon#young garmadon#ninjago garmadon#lord garmadon#sensei garmadon#brotherly love#brotherly moments#idk man i mean i love the angst and obvious trauma Garmadon gave Lloyd#HIS SON#and love that we acknowledge it#but we never talk about the burden on Wu and Misako#like seriously especially Wu
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"I'm Your Man" Anything Past/Present MAP part 19+20 (yt link under cut)
fsm fam has a special place in my heart and it hurts
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#garmadon had so much love in him and it got taken away from him#he loved his father and his brother and his wife and his son#and it got taken away from him#if we add to it the hc that overlord is like garm and wu's grandpa then this really fucks#this whole family is a mess#no words for how many words i'd need to say what i feel abt them#map part#multi animator project#ninjago#ninjago fanart#ninjago garmadon#garmadon#ninjago wu#wu#ninjago lloyd garmadon#lloyd garmadon#lloyd montgomery garmadon#grayartscayl#Youtube
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I love it when a rough sketch already makes me so happy without much done to it.
#ogzie's yappin#lord garmadon#lloyd garmadon#i love making Garmadon vulnerable and having to rely on his distressed son.#Lloyd having to push past his fear and doubts to look after his bleeding father is my favourite _3#*<3
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Do you know this (noncanon) ADHD character?
Evidence below the cut!
There's a lot going on. I don't know where to start. Impulsivity, emotional dysregulation, hyperfixating, distractibility, infodumping (related to excessive talking), hyperactivity (present mostly throughout excessive talking(throughout the show, ever since his introduction actually, he's been said to blabber and talk a LOT, for longer periods of times)), sensitivity to surroundings (sensory issues?)(Specifically to noise), are all traits he presents throughout the whole show.
#poll#noncanon adhd character#ninjago#jay walker#ninjago jay#jay ninjago#YOURE SO RIGHT.#this is one of the ones i intended to submit myself but never got around to#i used to love ninjago#i even had the url ninja-stop for a while#i watched it so many times#but i havent watched since s6#it just... it was clearly intended to only have 2 seasons#and then it was popular#so they didnt let it die#and the ninjago movie. oh no#i was furious about it even from the first trailers bc they BUTCHERED garmadon's character#he loves his son!!! he would never forget his name!!!!! he was absent bc he was forced to be not by choice#like ok him being sealed away was his fault but he wasnt intentionally abandoning lloyd#did ninjago ever get good again i hear its still going#also it was weirdly hard to find a good pic of jay with his Proper hair.#i hate that they changed everyone to the movie designs#i refused to use that. i will ignore the movie and its designs#hashtag NotMyJay#...zane was my fave. but i did always love jay
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I noticed from the Ninjago movie concept arts that garmadon is taller than wu 😋
#also the hagemen brothers worked on the ninjago movie before lloyd and the other ninjas had a redesign#so does that mean this was gonna be a canon design in the show too..#i kinda like garmadons design in the Spinjitzu brothers novel though cause hes a spitting image of lloyd with his bandana#and you know i love my “like father like son” shenanigans#ninjago#ninjago fandom#the ninjago movie#garmadon#master wu#ninjago garmadon#master wu ninjago#ninjago lord garmadon#lord garmadon ninjago#ninjago master wu#ninjago lego
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Season 8 was like 6 years ago(I feel old) and I know ppl have differing opinions on the Mr Echo thing (but it was intended, made it to storyboard and blocked animation and then dropped, soooo) but. I can see his recruitment p easily tbh. Bc the whole reason Dr J was in that lighthouse was because he was resurrected, forced there, and ordered to build Skulkin vehicles by Samukai. But Samukai in the flashback we see has already been deposed as leader of the Skulkin/Underworld. Which means the orders to do so most likely came from Garmadon.
And since Mr. E is one of the head honchos, he's likely an early arrival to the team, so I don't think Harumi has a whole lot figured out at this point, she's just got her Trauma and some Bad Influence Friends and an obsession with Lord Garmadon. So. Like. Plausible deniability road trip that she's just visiting important markers of Ninjago's recent past, all of which involve Lord Garmadon in some meaningful way; its sightseeing, its cathartic, and it gives her time to develop her dream Motorcycle Gang/Resurrection Cult. She's not looking for anyone at the Lighthouse, but she is looking for vehicle blueprints so she can be the Koolest leader on the block. But oops she looks in the basement and there's an Echo.
And she's flipping out bc??? A Ninja???? In the Lighthouse basement??? I mean it makes sense that it would be this one but???
Except this rusty old robot has no idea what she's talking about with this Ninja stuff, he's just waiting for his dad to come back.
And Harumi pauses.
Because how long has he been waiting? He's not sure, he had no proper way to measure time in the basement, and he doesn't have the best view of his clockwork heartpiece. But it was after his father saw a strange ship docking; Echo was worried it was the People who had locked up his father in the first place, but instead his dad sounded happy when he saw whoever was out there. It could have been a front, though, as clearly it was never safe to let Echo back out. Then Dr J popped down briefly, while everyone above was resting, to tell Echo he was desperately needed elsewhere, that it wasn't safe to bring Echo, but that he'd be back in no time.
And the pieces are fitting together for Harumi. And she's like. Your dad's dead, bro.
And he's like. What? Did he die doing what was needed of him?
And she's like. Oh, no. He died a few years later.
And he's like. Why didn't he come back for me????
And she's like. Probably because they kept him away.
And he's like. Who's they?
And she's like. The Ninja I was talking about earlier.
And it surely can't be hard in universe to find pictures of Zane and Dr J post s2-pre s3, so she pulls one up and shows Echo who is freaking out bc why is that one kind of like him and Harumi explains that that was the droid his father created first, that he became a Ninja, and that hes probably the one who took their father away and kept echo waiting for years.
But Echo has doubts, shocked as he is abt a new older brother, he wants to believe the good in the situation so he's unsure. But Harumi mentions that the Ninja's failures to uphold more than their self preservation/interests has led to uncountable losses and devastation in Ninjago time and time again, before delving into her own story. And she seems so kind, and so hurt, and I do think there's a genuine connection btwn these two that forms from this shared emotional torment that they decide came from the Ninja, and now Echo is more receptive.
And then Harumi gets to start her Garmadon pitch because wait! If Echo was made here, then that could only have happened because of Lord Garmadon. And she reiterates that he's the reason she and her city could have even survived The Great Devourer. And maybe Echo's family-by-creation left, maybe they were untrustworthy and lacking, but that's OK bc if you look at it all a certain way, Garmadon is more of a father to Echo than Dr J was. And Echo is a vulnerable, overwhelmed mess who just found out his dad fucked off for years without him and also died, and also he has a brother??? Who their dad clearly seems to have favored??? Did they even know about Echo??? Did they delight in their life free of him???
Basically. Kinda Spinel-core but getting abandoned and left completely alone does that to you. Especially when the first person to find you after being abandoned is a deeply hurt and misguided teen who is probably kinda desperate for someone, anyone else to see the Ninja the way she sees them.
#i was thinking abt the idea of citrusshipping#and how it could have flowed into Mr Echo. with morro as the vengeful influence tinting these#one sided experiences to associate ninja with loss#but theni was like 'wait a sec tho bc Harumi does that also and its her gang called the sons of garmadon#and if youre very carfeully squinting and cherrypicking out pesky details and nuance. like harumi would be.#echos existence is thanks to Lord Garmadon. and there is no better replacement dad than garmadon. you should be a son of garmadon.#and echo would probably listen and she could get him out the lighthouse and off the island'#and anyway i kinda ship Harumi and Echo now?#i like citrusshipping its funney but i think i actually ship this dynamic now#its. fucked and manipulative but its also like. genuine and just. two scarred young people and harumi gives echo her distorted view#of the world as the gift of her love#so its like she wasnt trying to manipulate echo. not like she was trying to manipulate Lloyd.#but she did take someone in a v fragile state and begin shaping his worldview to match hers. unconciously but still done.#like i can also see her bringing him to the mainland and she and UV and Killow are his tethers which means everything he sees radicalizes#him further...and draws him in closer to the fold#anyway if he and harumi smoochie kiss then shes why he got rebuilt in Crystallized. also i think mr F stands for 'Mr Fun Guy'#echo zane#harumi jade#ninjago harumi#quietmystery?#idk what the ship name would be but im here for it#mr e ninjago#mr echo#echo/harumi#tbh i said i kinda ship it now but it could also be friendship#sons of garmadon#...ok til abt the morro-echo-harumi trio hcs and Yes#this is just more of a like. canon compliant ish take where morro is still gone from the narrative#love the idea of the 3 in a vengeance trio tho
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Random thought but like Lloyd Garmadon has THE most hero-like story I've heard
Literally raised in an evil boarding school with an evil dad, absent mom and arguably questionable adult figures (the ninja).
They weren't bad adoptive brothers/teammates/babysitters! They definetly gave lloyd some needed found family troupe later on but like we aren't excusing the poor babysitting job and child slander in the beginning (even if it was kinda deserved, lloyd was a proper menace and I love him for it)
Look season 1 and 2 was rough on him😭😭
And then he still turns out to be THE green ninja, "grows up" to be the leader of the ninja and technically the mosst powerful out of all of them.
AND HE'S 1/8 ONI AND DRAGON???
I'm just saying for all the bad things that happened to him, he still managed to be a leader and a symbol of peace and hope for ninjago (reference to season 8 and 9)
In short- all I wanted to say was that it screams hero backstory!!!
#lloyd garmadon#my brainrot#lloyd angst#I love him sm#His angst fuels me#I need more fics of him guys#ninjago#season 8#season 9#sons of garmadon#ninjago lloyd#character analysis#the brainrot is real
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yes the horrors are more real than ever but picture in your mind, if you will, jack and lloyd garmadon as best boy friends
#cal.txt#hi again everyone I just wanted to say this#spn#supernatural#jack kline#ninjago#lloyd garmadon#my son and my boyfriend btw#i luh-love luh-loyd so much he’s my little sweetie pie
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I know I'm not usually one to promote random videos, but I wanted to share this video essay/look back on the original era of Ninjago (pilots-s2) from one of my favorite YouTubers, Negative Legend.
If you have the time to sit down and watch the whole thing (only 44 minutes long) I'd HIGHLY encourage you to do so!
It's genuinely a funny video, and they poke fun at some silly things and have a lot of interesting things to say about the show and characters (and also I'm biased because they said good things about Wu Ninjago)
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They're also planning to do more Ninjago videos in the future, so if you happened to enjoy this one, please be on the lookout for them! Their content is genuinely funny and engaging and I think you should check the video out like rn!!!
#one of the best things they brought up was the idea of the father vs son thing and how it was kinda like#taken away from the story for the Overlord to possess Garm instead#and I DO kinda agree#I wouldve loved to see the idea of Lloyd having to actually fight his father more#ninjago#I will say they do say a FEW negative things ab characters like Garmadon and have a few negative thoughts on the first season so if that's#thing u dont like then id tell you to not watch ig idk#but hey what can u expect? they are NEGATIVE Legend LMAO#Youtube
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Season 4 was peak Garmadon in my opinion
#Sensei Garmadon was great but I think he was better in s4 since he got a bigger role#also I think he had a better design there#I was just listening to Season 4 music and it made me reminisce on him#god I miss Sensei Garmadon#it’s a crime he was only in 2 seasons#I like the current one well enough but I loved him#he was a badass old man who loved his son#and he used to be the main villain which I don’t think ever occurred in my brain but it’s funny to think about#maybe with United and the Departed Realm we’ll see him again#we can only hope#ninjago#sensei garmadon#ns4#tournament of elements#ninjago garmadon#random stuff
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Okay now that I’m actually watching Sons of Garmadon, there’s actually some really good design choices that I love, but I will never forgive them for Jays hair…
#what did they do to my boy…#HE DESERVES TO BE GINGER BRING IT BACK#I MISS HIS RED HAIR#the new animation is cool tho! I like the individuality of each characters designs now#I have learned that I’ve been pronouncing harumi wrong for a while though#also…. HEIGHTS HEIGHTS HEIGHTS ITS SICH A SUBTLE DIFFERENCE THAT I LOVE LOVE LOVE#OBSESSING#remy rambles#ninjago#lego ninjago#sons of garmadon
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Having Seabound Thoughts
I think the part that hurts the most is right before Nya merges with the sea. That little quiet moment where it’s just her and Jay, but Jays too weak to even realize what she’s saying. And then, the thing that made me cry so hard the first time I watched it, was Nya just Mouthing ‘i love you’ on the roof. LIke Fuck the writers that Hurt!
It’s Good and please give us more of that but also OW. Bc Jay had been saying ‘i love you’ for So many seasons, always. It was his Thing and Nya would always jsut smile and/or tease him. It was clear she loves him back even if she doesn’t say it. But Now, the first time she says it out loud, he’s not even there to hear her And she mouths it. She can’t even bring herself to Say it. Fuck. Ugly crying every single time I watch taht scene.
The only thing that comes close that season is Jay trying to stop her from leaving and he says the ‘don’t leave me’ line in that hurt voice of his. Fuck
#i am totally normal about the little lego people#yep#i don't cry every single time i watch that season#nope#the only other one that makes me cry is master of the mountain#just bc it's so Epic in that last fight#and then cole remembers his mom and boom the tears just start falling#as for seasons i Yell at/talk to#sons of garmadon i'm usually yelling at lloyd the Whole time#like idiot stop falling for it#i love harumi so much#she's such a good villan#but also lloyd watch OUT lol#ninjago#d rambles#wow the tags are longer than the post#oops lol
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I am perfectly fine reading this.
Lloyd: I know you have to leave but know this: when we meet again, I’m gonna do everything in my power defeat you.
Garmadon: I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Me:
Garmadon: Oh, and son? You’re a good boy. Soon, you’ll be a great man. Although we’re on opposite sides, I’m still very proud of you.
Me:
#No bc I love Garmadon sm bro#He was evil bc he wasn’t given a choice but Lloyd was given a choice and he just wanted his son to have the life he never got#Lemme just-#Imma cry with you if you don’t mind
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