#I hate incest ships so much

[littledancingphoenix]

Pinterest can stop with the Jin x Lars shit now thaaaanks

[zeroducks-2]

The pearl clutching about supposed incest is ridiculous… so many pieces of media employ the high school sweethearts/grew up together trope for straight couples and you never see people up in arms about it, why such vitriol when a gay ship has a similar story?

People who use the word incest as a spectrum drive me insane.

Like yall, incest means sexual intercourse with a relative within the prohibited degree of consanguinity. Consanguinity means BLOOD RELATIONSHIP. You can't toss around the word incest to vaguely mean that these two guys were not raised under the same roof, did not grow up together, didn't even MEET up to when one was 17 and the other 20, and the only tie they have is that as young vigilantes, they were mentored by the same guy.

I don't give a shit about your feelings on how "it looks like incest" because it's not. You can't assign random words to things and demand they're true. Jason and Tim have less personal ties than Dick and Wally for fucks sake - at least Dick and Wally lived under the same roof for a time and have been close since they were 12ish. So I'm sorry but idgaf about people whining that we need to tag "batcest" and such because they get triggered by idk what the fuck, because that is not incest, it can never be incest in any planet or any galaxy regardless of how you spin it, so go clutch your pearls somewhere else and fuck off. I'll tag things when the tag APPLIES.

Also, how come it's "batcest" when it's Tim and Jason, but it's totally fine when it's Tim and Stephanie? How come it's "batcest" when it's Jason and Dick, and all good when it's Dick and Barbara? Or when it's Barbara and Tim, or Dick and Helena Bertinelli?

When you only give a pass to the het couples it really starts sounding like the umpteenth fucking excuse for homophobia.

[megaloserrr]

i know i am not at all a big creator i'm just some guy with some internet access and an account and friends but even then all of this, fandom, internet fun, its all become so incredibly insufferable to be in? the only reason i made a tumblr was so i could post my art online and maybe get some validation and silly for it, and because there were strangers on the internet who would share the same opinions as me and we could interact via shared interests and love for content we both enjoy but never actually ever know each other personally and as someone whos been in the undertale fandom since i was like. a genuine child, how did fandom culture go from fun and joyous to genuinely exhausting and like walking through a landmine? i understand trying to weed out all the genuinely shitty people, but like, atleast on my side with my friends, and of course one of the bigger online presences in them being kia, why is it so unimaginable that people are friends with eachother outside of fandom discourse that doesnt hold a single candle to anything in real life? i'll tell you this much; whatever shit my friends like to draw doesn't do anything to me in the real world all of this "blocklist" shit (which, by the way, never has to be made public, if you really want a blocklist make it in private or dm people if they want it), is so dangerous and it's absolutely insane and incredible to me that nobody in the rabid anti spaces can see it as a genuine danger that has real world consequences until things don't exactly go "the way they wanted" why are you airing out, generally average and pretty fucking normal, people and artists around on a list expecting whoever's on the internet to see it and have an ounce of etiquette? and, actually, why are you even willing to put out public lists in the first place? does it not fill you with regret? i fucking hate dreammare as a ship and i dont like the shit that people would consider proship, if anything i'm pretty normal, i just dont give a fuck about what people do in their own little spaces because i can choose not to go in there. so why are you choosing to put me out on a list as if i personally hurt you? like i drew incest brothers and sisters kissing with nsfw written all over it or some shit? brother the only social media that i post publicly on for the world to see is this one!! tldr please leave me the fuck alone and have some idk, sympathy? i dont look on tumblr much, i'm busy you know, living on my own barely a year after turning 18, its not very fun running the risk of harassment, and knowing that people are stalking you and your friendgroup constantly over shit that doesn't fucking matter to you

[murpurpop]

Ohhh boy this took a while!!! I’ve had this in the wip folder for over a month now and it’s one of my biggest pieces!! I have no idea what this is or what it’s supposed to be about (other than haha Jonathan Joestar sillies haha). I just had the idea in my head and thought it looked cool. The line art was probably the most difficult part of this whole process it definitely took the longest to finish.

I wasn’t the biggest fan of the outfits Jonathan and Dio wore in Windknight’s Lot so I changed them - keeping on brand with official art of Jonathan and making his clothes torn and falling off him all the time!

That’s all I have to say. Hope you like it!!!

[msnihilist]

Screenshots somebody’s DNI and has one herself saying no antis or busybodies. Cool. It’s the internet. Anything goes. That means I can rb your fanfics and save them for editing the way you save art that isn’t incestuous.

I mean, if you want to download my fics and comb through all of that incest and underage smut, that's your prerogative, man. Hope you get a boner out of it, then maybe you'll calm down 💕

[cassandracain52]

My shipping guide for the Batfam fandom because some of these ships are getting out of hand

(This post goes out to the person who told me they legitimately didn’t know Tim and Jason were brothers and thought they were a canon couple🤢)

Acceptable/non-incest/legal ships:

Tim and Stephanie, Barbara and Dick, Bruce and Selena, Bruce and Talia, Basically Any Pairing That Is Not Adopted Relative/Adopted Relative or Child/Not Child Is Ok It's Not Rocket Science, Dick and Kori

Incest/Batcest ships:

Jason and Tim, Dick and Jason, Tim and Damian, Jason and Cass, Dick and Cass, Tim and Cass, Bruce and any of his children that is their FATHER, Bruce and Alfred, Bruce and Kate, Mari and Damian

Ships that should be illegal/personally give me the ick:

Barbara and Bruce, Jason and Barbara, Tim and Barbara, Duke and Cass, Jason and Talia

Ships that are a whole ass felony:

Dick and Damian, Damian and Stephanie, Honestly Damian and Most People He's a Child, Bruce and Stephanie

[necrotic-nephilim]

any pairings for terry mcginnis?

oh good question!

to be honest, not a *ton*. i think the Batman Beyond universe is a decent show for background noise, but i don't really think about it a ton when it comes to fandom. honestly i don't really consider Terry to be a Batfam member, nor do i think he should be. i'm of the opinion Terry shouldn't be the successor of the mantle in the main timeline bc he doesn't work in the main timeline. he works well in his own world, but the idea that fo *all* the Batfam, the person to take up the mantle is a random kid who happens upon the Batcave to me, is unsatisfying. so i tend not to think of him in relation to the other characters, but as his own sequestered person. i know there are comics with him, but i haven't read them and tbh, am not interested in doing so.

that said, i am a sucker for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker and all the Joker Junior potential, so. i have had the idea for a fic for a while where Terry ends up in the past for an indefinite amount of time, while Tim is still Robin and/or Red Robin. and Terry knows what will happen to Tim and under Bruce's orders of not fucking up the future too much, isn't allowed to say shit. but a tragic romance happens where they sort of fall in love, all while Tim knows *something* happens to him that's making Terry so flighty about the future. like a tragic fic where there's no happy ending, but bc of that, i do ship them. i think it's so fun for Terry to know what will happen and be unable to stop it, yet fall in love with Tim anyway. delightfully fucked up ship, imo.

also a fan of Damian/Terry. i despise the whole thing with Terry being Bruce's biological child bc to me, it ruins a lot of the themes of Terry's character, but honestly idc if they're biologically related. it's sort of more fun if they are. Damian being so convinced he's going to inherit the mantle he was born for, and then being replaced with a *random* kid who he can beat in a fight and he knows it is *infuriating*. even more infuriating if Terry is Bruce's son and there's a biological element to it, bc Terry was Right but Damian was Wrong for no explained reason. of what i know about Damian in the Future's End comics, i do enjoy the role he has, leading the League and taking Ra's' places. i think it makes Damian and Terry mirrors of each other and they really deserve to fuck about it. there's a lot of good complex fodder there.

also think Terry and Jason could be neat. i don't have many thoughts on that one, bc i know very little about Jason in Future's End, but i do think Jason would be predictably weird and unhinged over the new fresh Batman. there's potential there. i just need to think about it, but i know it's there.

also Terry and his canon girlfriend are pretty cute. she put up with too much shit from him, but she was cute and i liked her. i wish i had more thoughts, but Terry does tend to fall outside of my wheelhouse, hope this still satisfies you tho, anon!

[cherrymoonvol6]

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[sneakyboymerlin]

Why do so many people in this fandom obsessively treat Morgana like she’s nothing but some passive helpless eye candy who can’t make decisions for her own adult self and is just pushed and pulled and shaped by the men in her life… I’m serious, you all need to manage your misogyny.

[tomboyyyaoi]

trigun twitter blows like actually fucking sucks ass like actually eats shit like good god what a cesspit. what a fucking travesty how those people live and consume media, twitter fandoms continue losing, seethe, rot, fester, youre all doomed

[orcelito]

worst fucking post experiences is when i get that notification for the blocked tag 'plantcest' on my dash bc of course i have it blocked. & i have to b like "oh God this person i follow just reblogged this, what did they post..."

and then it's just. a normal fucking post about them as siblings. except the OP tagged it as the fucking incest ship name

genuinely, what is WRONG with you people????????????????????

[freedfromthegalactichivemind]

Reasons why Spop is one of the worst fandoms:   The 50,000th person complains about the writing, the last-season characterization and oh, noes, ships becoming canon or near-canon that they do not agree with!!!   Someone comes along to defend some of the writing, express a general chill-ness with the ships, but also a chill-ness with people not being into the ships / happiness with alternate ships, to give their own view on what they saw without condemning the OP, just “hey, I see a little difference here.” - along with one’s own complaints about the series writing, but, you know, just friendly giving of opinion as a fellow fan.   Blocked.  I was apparently immediately blocked.  No discussion, no rebuttal.  I wasn’t attacking anyone, I was just opining.   Then again, this is the fandom of “If you like or defend character X whom I don’t like in any way, you’re a bad person who does bad things and I hate you,” fandom.  Meanwhile, I’ve poked into discussions on the Trigun tag and have seen “Analysis of the complex relationship between the protagonist and antagonist as well their relationship with their adoptive mother” and someone comes along to give their own opinion, a little dissenting, respectful, but just how they see it, and the response is “Oh, I never saw that! This makes so much sense!  I still disagree on this point, but thank you!”     *Points to something I said earlier on this blog about better overall fandoms and how I’m glad I’m gravitating more toward them and out of this one.* 

[everythingsinred]

it is so sad to me that people find it difficult to see a meaningful and emotional relationship with two people without making it romantic. that you watch two people connect and immediately say “people dont do THAT for friends--” like maybe YOU dont. but platonic and familial relationships can hit so hard, so profoundly, so deeply, if you just let them. ppl ship incest so much bc they cant imagine a strong connection that isnt sexual or romantic. they cant fathom that a person might do ANYTHING for their child or their sibling or their parent, that they’d cross heaven and hell for a friend. romantic relationships are awesome but fandom sucks the enjoyment out of all non-romantic relationships by MAKING them romantic, by forcing romance and sex in places where they dont belong or arent needed. you arent elevating the relationship. you arent making it deeper. youre just adding sex. these two people love each other, but theres more than one way to love. so many of you exhaust me

[morningstarrituals]

Help, I think we're starting to ship Terzo and Primo in a way that ties up issues from BOTH our families

[s-catspade]

see i’m above the law bc my superior mindset (which realistically i’m sure is not uncommon) is that while davekat are the endgame couple, johndave are the beginning. they’re the foundation of it all.

(there is hella ramble under this cut man. i’m getting emotional about pixelated boys again.)

so as we all know, we start the webcomic with dave already having a crush on john. maybe he doesn’t even know it yet, maybe he does, but ultimately john is dave’s first real life gay crush and dave is john’s too but his takes a while to form. yknow i hear a boat with only ur sister and nicholas cage for three years is a great way to end up pondering the homoerotic undertones of ur closest friendship.

i don’t know if they even actually date, i can see them being just like an unlabelled kinda experimental thing, hidden away in a corner on the meteor somewhere having this vulnerable moment together of soft touches and racing heartbeats and just getting to explore themselves and their feelings in the safety and security of each other, and they don’t really know what they are they’re just them, this is just how it was meant to be with them. it’s awkward and vulnerable and stupid and soft and dorky, but eventually just very natural and normal. still mostly behind closed doors but it’s not like no one can tell there’s something there lmao.

and eventually they decide they just wanna be friends again and there’s some grief and heartbreak but when they come out the other side of that they’re closer than ever. they’re more like moirails in my eyes but they don’t call it that bc be fr both of them would rather die than let karkat win. by this point everyone knows, no one cares ofc they’re in fucking space with grey aliens who has time for homophobia. probably eridan but he actually probably is the only one who doesn’t know. i can’t see him caring enough about them to notice.

then ofc when dave realises his feelings for karkat john is his shoulder to lean on dealing with that, and when john starts thinking about june dave wouldn’t breathe a word of it to anyone until she’s ready.

[catsconflictscopicsandchamomile]

Been noticing something weird in the spn fandom. If I say "I like Sam", people immediately assume that I hate Dean/hate Destiel. If I say "I like Sam, and I like Dean, and I'm a heller", the response is literally "no you're not/you won't be for long/etc".

Seriously, as someone who projects WAY too much onto Dean yall sound like spn villains.

"Yeah I love and care about Sam and want him to be ok and do well"

"of course! anyway Dean doesn't matter and would never love Cas anyway lmao"

or on the flipside (BECAUSE YEAH THIS IS ABT *ALL* OF YALL)

"Destiel is amazing and ate my brain, but I also value Sam as a person and care about him because literally why wouldnt I"

"lmaooo you'll get over that soon enough when you realize how much Sam and Jared and all their fans are literally evil. Come back when you've realized that Sam sucks"

now I don't give a singular flying shit about "actor drama", so just re: the show alone:

what part. of FAMILY

DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND

like just from a Terminal Dean Kinnie (and AGGRESIVE Heller/absolute Destiel brainrot) standpoint, seeing this type of stuff makes me feel like I'm being told to choose between

-having Cas, but Sam being evil/deserving death

or

-Sam is alive and well, but Cas is gone.

...so uh yea I'm not sure if we're watching the same show. because that mindset.

that mindset makes yall the baddies here

you know that

right