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Envoy: Day 1
Envoy: n. A messenger or representative, especially one on a diplomatic mission.
Present. From the moment J'napha stepped from the Shroud into Gridania proper, it became abundantly clear all that newfound control she sought to have over her destiny was... not to be.
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Twelve forfend! This was not what Napha had planned at all.
Scarcely a moon had passed, but the whirlwind in which she found herself after stepping from the Shroud into the light of the city had twisted her senses and purpose like a sheet in a launderer's mangle. An audience with the Elder Seedseer was the first punch in the nose, the second was the ease with which Napha nodded pleasantly and swallowed the spite she swore she'd bring to bear if given the chance. The third was when all that nodding saw her propped up on a ceremonial stage as though she had been a pillar of the community for longer than a fortnight. In her defense, all those Wood Wailers with their polearms and bows seemed unwilling to suffer her refusal. But now, now, Kan-E-Senna had really managed a knockout that sent her reeling.
An airship pass was more than any bumpkin in the wood could ever hope to receive. She could go anywhere. Be anyone. It was her ticket out – far out and away.
She'd be a fool to say no. Might as well get something for her trouble, she reasoned.
And if the airship didn't happen to fly so damn high, she just might have found the wherewithal to take leave of the whole business. Instead it took all the grit she could muster, tucked against the lacquered wall of the airship and hanging on for dear life, just to hold in her tears and lunch. So when it came time to make for Ul'dah, she'd sooner board a proper boat, one which rested upon something she could see, than take to the skies again. But a prolonged journey at sea, already tipsy with an earful of all manner of ill that might befall a sea-faring vessel... at least the journey across the skies wouldn't take as long. Quick, yes. Painless, maybe? Still, choosing a speedy resolution wasn't quite the same as hitting back.
So enveloped in the logistics if the burden set upon her, it wasn't until Napha went weak in the knees on the Steps of Nald – or was it Thal? – that she remembered why she had left her warm bed and her meager frustrations behind.
These damned headaches...
So when she looked up from the cobblestone, mind yet swimming in the currents of time, she hadn't really considered how questionable the whole proposition was.
"We have a friend just like you, you know."
"Your head run ragged with visions, innit?"
"Oh, we'd love to introduce you!"
"What's that now?" Napha's voice barely sounded like her own amid the ringing in her ears. The taller one – Yda, was it? - answered.
"Just tell Momodi the Scions of the Seventh Dawn have found their woman. Oh, but don't spread that around." She followed up with a stage whisper. "It's a secret." She couldn't see it, but Napha swore she could hear the wink in her voice.
Nophica's tits, was this a way out or just round two?
#ffxivwrite2023#ffxiv fanfiction#these past two days seem like such little stories#that it seems dumb to follow my original plan and put them on Ao3#I've only read Big Real Fics on there so I don't want to be the weirdo putting my rushed flash on there#I don't know the culture. lol#my wol#napha#ffxiv
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Just kidding, here’s a treat:
#laishuro#laios touden#nakamoto toshiro#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#Fic writing takes time but at least my wife is helping m#e proof read#for now.. i can at least draw the possible scenes that i wANT TO WRITE SO BAD but don't know how to go about em yet lol#STILL!!! As you can see i refuse not to let these dudes feel themselves a lil bit :)#Laios wants to feel all of those textures and toshiro's heart will explode with all the intimacy#also Laios' getting into the intricacies of the East culture that he starts to notice and enjoy things about Toshiro#also both of these guys have dad issues#that alone gives me TOO MUCH to work with >:)#But I must admit 70% of these are self-indulgent and I will not stop <3#Sam's doodles of the day#shuro
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if you're holding very rich, extremely sheltered people to the standards you live by in your life you're always gonna be disappointed and im sorry about that but we have to stop letting celebrities decide our morals and ethics for us. even the coolest, most down to earth famous person you love lives in a totally different world than you do and the issues that you face daily do not matter to them. it's cruel but it's true. stop putting your faith in rich people to do the right thing no matter how much you like them. you will always be disappointed.
#they should do more but there is absolutely no societal pressure for them to do so#nor is there any for them to even be aware of what's happening in worlds they don't occupy#like yeah a group of their fans is mad but the checks still clear either way so they dont care LOL#we know privilege makes people ignorant but i feel like there's a certain level of 'WELL if we TELL THEM' when it comes to stan culture#you can tell them and they still won't care
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what i like especially about the pronouns in the goblin emperor is that this language doesn't just have the T-V distinction (aka informal vs. formal second-person pronouns, in this case 'thou' vs. 'you'), it also has informal and formal first-person pronouns. having BOTH of these distinctions in the same language lets you fine-tune your tone by mixing and matching. with only one axis of formality, when you use informal pronouns, are you being familiar in an intimate way, or in an insolent or dismissive way? when you use formal pronouns, are you being polite or standoffish? you can't tell just from the pronouns; there's ambiguity. but a language where you can use a formal first-person pronoun in the same sentence as an informal second-person pronoun allows you to distance yourself (via the formal first) while also being familiar (via the informal second), thereby achieving the conversational tenor known to linguists as Fuck Thee Specifically.
#just kidding i don't know what linguists call that tenor. or any tenors. i'm not totally positive what a tenor even is#but i can't let that stop me from writing a jokey post on tumblr dot com#register is a very interesting area of linguistics that i know very little about#so i'm probably revealing the depths of my vast ignorance here to all the sociolinguists who surely hang on my every word#but i've always thought of the formal/informal pronoun thing as being about two things: intimacy-distance & rudeness-politeness#and of course you can usually tell from context whether a formal pronoun is meant to indicate distance or politeness#(plus distance and politeness are related to each other (to various degrees depending on culture))#but it seems like it would be cool to have a built-in alignment chart of sorts just for pronoun combos#instead of prep jock nerd goth...why not try intimate self-effacing polite superior?#the goblin emperor#pronouns#register#sociolinguistics#my posts#f#anyway i know i said i wasn't going to reread the goblin emperor...but guess what. lol#and i edited my tags on that earlier post but fyi the language DOES distinguish between plural and formal singular pronouns#i had said i thought it used the same pronouns for plural and formal but i just wasn't paying close enough attention#so anyway i just reread the part where maia is talking to setheris in formal first and informal second#and you can see setheris going ohhh shit. oh shit oh shit oh shit#i'm in biiiiiig trouble#you sure are dude. that's the Time to Grovel signal#it's interesting because at the very beginning of the book when i first saw the formal first used i just thought it was the royal we#because i knew the main character was supposed to be royalty#but then EVERYONE was doing it. so it's not the royal we it's just the formal we#however. this does make me realize that the way the royal we would function in a language that retains the t-v distinction#is the same way i'm describing here. it's just reserving that particular tone (i'm better than you and am displeased with you)#for royalty only. which makes sense given royalty's whole deal
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that one line about ramy's bangla being rudimentary made me absolutely sob (i'm bengali) and i wanna talk about why
there's so much to it both contextually with ramy's character as well as historically. contextually because ramy is fluent in 6 languages, an insane number of languages for one person but none of which are his mother tongue. he's described as a performer, one who knows he can't blend in so instead he stands out as a means to escape as much of the racism as he can. he gets lost in it that he almost forgets who he is; this is reflected in his language ability too – he gets so lost in his linguistic academics he just barely remembers the native language of his home place that he adores.
and honestly, you can't even really blame ramy for it at all when it was induced. it's the british who saw urdu, arabic and persian as more valuable than bangla, it's the british that make ramy put on this act so he can literally stay alive. and when you know the historical relevancies between urdu and bangla, it hurts so much that ramy was forced to forget bangla
very brief history context: after the partition, where british india was split into india, pakistan and east pakistan (now bangladesh) bangla was seen as inferior to urdu due to its hindu connections. bengalis experienced so much shit because of this (and bengali muslims are still dealing with the internalised cultural racism today honestly). pakistanis tried to make the official language urdu, even though literally everyone in east pakistan were bengali and spoke bangla, so bengalis fought back against it. we still celebrate that day today (feb 21)
so to have ramy be in this position in the 1830s where urdu was seen as superior to bangla, especially when ramy is a bengali muslim, is just extremely accurate?? and maybe it's bc we don't have much western literature where we talk about this but it's just so nice to have it acknowledged
the bangla language movement didn't happen until around the 1950s, over a century after babel's timeline, but the seeds are always there. while i do think it comes with both this islamic superiority tendency a lot of asians have (arabs i'm looking at you) and britian's imperialistic racism, i just love how it all makes sense
#babel rf kuang#ramiz rafi mirza#i'm still learning a lot abt my own culture so don't ask me for a lot of information about this lol#yk when i found out ramy was bengali it set my world off its course and i knew i had to read this book even if no bangla was discussed#i knew i was gonna get attached to him and I DID!#he just means so much to me and while he made me sob multiple times i love what kuang did with his character#also if youre pakistani lol don't try to defend yourself#you don't get to after pakistanis massacred so many bengalis during the bangladesh liberation war#babel an arcane history#babel or the necessity of violence#also i love seeing south asian characters become fandom favourites i know most babel lovers love ramy IKTRRR
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The obsession with "natural = good" isn't truly rooted in what is "natural" but is rooted in complex politics based on what is deemed "natural" by others - those in power. The whole "natural is pure, is right, is morally just" has not historically applied to the marginalized because of our supposed proximity to the "unnatural." Our bodies, our behaviour, our lives and souls will continuously be defined as "unnatural" so long as "natural" remains seen as pure and godly, so long as "natural" is equal to power.
#politics#genuinely don't know what to tag this as lol#definitely have talked about this before but. shit like this continues to affect me and others y'know?#and this especially affects me on a trans scale - where trans can never be defined as 'natural' so long as natural means cis (and het too)#natural/human nature politics also has strong roots in christianity too but i don't think that aspect is *necessary*#but it does affect how people are defined if they are in a culture which values christianity i've noticed#shit that's part of the reason my medical transition was delayed and threatened because it was 'unnatural' and a 'privilege' i must 'earn'
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autistic aro culture is making up a fake crush to fit in, and then getting really confused when somebody informs you that they are already someone elses crush because you genuinely don't understand all the social rules around crushes and also do not get the big deal about them because you've never had one.
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#aro culture is#aro#aromantic#actually aro#actually aromantic#ask#mod ???#(we think i'm new and idk if i have a name yet lol. i feel like i have one but i don't know it if that makes sense?)#autistic aro culture
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Intresting how its only trivializing and mocking green myths when non-greek white people do it, but not when non-greek poc do it. Its almost if you dont actually care
lmao bro what
i literally have zero clue what you're arguing here, "stop criticizing rachel for writing her greek myth retelling from a predominantly whitewashed westernized and christian-washed point view" ?? yeah okay lol
#i can't even tell what direction this strawman is trying to go in LOL#no one cares if you're white my guy#shit there are greek myth retellings that slap and are written by *gasp* non-greek white people!#if you write a story based on a culture that isn't your own just?? do your research ?? and don't write it like you hate it for existing???#some of y'all hurt yourselves in your own confusion as if it's such a chore to give a shit about the stories you're adapting lolol#“I didn't know greece has moved out from the west and europe” babe can you please point to me on a map where you think greece is#ama#ask me anything#anon ama#anon ask me anything
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Any gesture that uses just the first 2 fingers is vulgar to Irkens. Zim was very confused by humans doing peace signs for photos or using finger quotes when talking
Doing this sign from the forehead means the Irken military in particular bc of the forehead symbol the elite soldiers have
Editing to add: Irkens would be APALLED to see any of these gestures used- Zim has just been on earth long enough that he doesn't care anymore lmao if he does this in other Irkens' presence they would smack his hand down so fast AND ALSO Zim isn't wearing any gloves?? This makes the gesture even worse!
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#invader zim#iz zim#Irken lore#Irken language#Irken#my art#Irkens have a thing about hands and feet being covered#feet more so than hands#zim eventually relaxes enough not to wear gloves on earth but going barefoot takes him WAY longer#also also#i give Irkens 3 fingers and a thumb#in the show while zim has 3 fingers total which is one less than humans who have 4 fingers total. So if I give dib 5 I give zim 4#I'm a nerd#I have so many Irken cultural headcanons. gestures. words. you don't wanna get me started lol#fun fact- the reason this gesture is vulgar is bc it vaguely resembles Irken genitalia#much like how the middle finger is bad supposedly bc it represents human male genitalia#the more you know!#am I gonna get in trouble for this? do I need to tag it as something??
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You know what? People shouldn't feel bad about liking things in fandom, or creating things that make them happy. I'm absolutely vagueposting, but this really isn't about one post, it's about a tone I've noticed popping up again lately from multiple people (including people I follow and generally respect!)
-"They absolutely cannot fuck! So crazy people would think about that and be into it, it would break canon! "
-"Mod AU doesn't work, they're Serious Characters they aren't gonna run a coffee shop its OOC! "
-"Actually, fun fluffy fic about them at all during a certain era doesn't work!"
I get it. I agree with a fair part of it. People post all kinds of asinine shit that I hate actually. But you know where I bitch about it? Privately in group chat.
Let people fucking have fun. I get the sense that many people come to this fandom specifically because it's Serious and Challenging and you want to Do Serious Analysis. I think a lot of folks around these parts either are in school and not having a good time about it, or wish that they had gone into better academia that doesn't really exist, and they're getting that need met here. And that's great! For real!
But you know what else is fine? People who either don't have that need, or are getting it met in other parts of their lives, and come here for stress relief and a fun free hobby.
Of course they can't fuck for real! It's not in the text, they simply don't. But the tension is obviously written in, and playing with possibilities can be fun! Also if you can't see how it could happen and still not fix shit, that's a skill issue. Fic authors aren't stupid, we don't fail to understand canon, but not everything has to be everything all the time. Sometimes you want to do all the work and try to match the level of writing in the show, and sometimes you want to have something nice and easy. The show is REALLY well written and what it needs to be, the point of transformative works is playing with what it's NOT. Some people cope with fluff, or good ending everybody lives AUs, and it might be so totally valid to look down on that, but maybe being publicly correct might be less important than being kind?
Actually, the main thing I want to say is that if YOU reading this are a person who wants to write a cute coffeeshop AU, or be horny on main about your boys kissing, it's actually fine!! At least, it historically has been fine. This is a really small fandom now and not that many people are actively creating, please don't be discouraged by this stuff, because the people who criticize on tumblr are actually not the majority. The REASON they criticize is that, if you go to AO3 and sort by kudos, much of it is this super sweet OOC stuff! It looks like that's most of what there is, because a lot of readers in the wild who watch the show and look up fic like it!
Anyway. Let people have fun, it doesn't cost you anything, and not every thought needs to be public. It actually does discourage people.
#not ME lol i cannot be discouraged I am unstoppable#i'm not really even defending myself here at all believe it or not#like i do a specific thing and its not everybody's cup of tea but its generally not what's being complained about#anyway i know you're just stating your own opinion and what works and doesn't work for you and that's your right#i just think there are other ways to make the same points that don't make people feel bad about their fun relaxation thing#part of this is a cultural/generational difference about fandom I'm sure#i'm being a defensive den mom because I remember when fandom was supposed to be weird and silly and it was nice#(thank you kinkmeme that is the antidote to this mindset in some ways)#(i'm about to reveal/post my other thing later and its gonna be a hilarious followup to this in context)#again its not that anybody is wrong just there is room for all of the things maybe?#black sails#silverflint#i'm also gonna reblog this in a few minutes with some of my favorite just AWFUL did not fix ANYTHING fics#that i think would meet anybody's criteria of matching canon#just for funsies
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Snapper and Keaton’s first independent investigation, I’m sure it’ll be fine
#Don't worry about it#I've actually don't know anything about the Silent Hill franchise lol#outside of “town's fucked” and “fog bad I think” that is#excited to do a blind playthrough once I finish with Alan Wake 2#my art#cape escape#cape escape 2#cape escape spoilers#cape escape snapper#cape escape keaton#gnollplaying games#furry#furry art#silent hill#I think it's very funny to put these characters in random pop culture fucked up towns#shout out to Javier in Echo and Sandals in Bright Falls
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Every time I think about Lords of Fortune and their cultural sensitivity I have to go 'Don't think about it' like that Portal 2 scene, because I get too invested trying to understand the logic behind it and eventually short circuit.
#like what do you mean you don't steal 'cultural artifacts'? what DO you steal then?#coins? but if they are from old ruins they can be considered an artifact too#do you know how much historical shit we got from coins and what was engraved on them?#do they just hand a couple of coins to the local museum and sell the rest lmao?#jewelry? again it can be considered an artifact if it's old enough#but would people even pay that much for dusty ass jewelry if it was just a generic one with no cultural background or magic in it?#just some loose gems and solid bars of gold? is it even treasure hunting at this point?#like sure you can probably find some scrap or random gold you can sell in ruins but I don't think people usually commission others to do so#my point is what is a non-cultural artifact???#don't get me wrong I can stretch a lot to fit the new lore (you see me do it with crows) but I just can't wrap my head around it#I do like the interpretation of it's just Isabela checking for specifically qunari relics because she's like#'never going through that shit again' but I don't think that's the intended scenario lol#dragon age the veilguard critical#veilguard critical#lords of fortune critical
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modern trek erasing mccoy is genuinely my villain origin story
#mine#i just remembered how terribly mccoy was treated in into darkness again#and how the changes they made fully cut out the katra of it all#i mean they literally had not established the kirk + spock friendship enough to even make the story make sense at that point#they were fully leaning on tos and the pop culture history of it but they didn't EARN it at ALL#meanwhile they HAD established the kirk + mccoy friendship and they didn't even have mccoy in the goddamn room#unlike tos which of course had spock have his moment with mccoy BEFORE he goes in (and then of course the katra)#also i haven't watched SNW (and likely won't) but the fact they haven't had mccoy on there.................#anyway. it's. just. Interesting. is all.#[powering up my comically large supervillain ice ray]#(also let's not even talk about the certain segments of fandom that do it too lmao y'all know who you are)#i am too sleepy to be writing this so i am not putting it in the tags i'm positive it's bitchier than i mean it to be i'm just. v annoyed.#lol. lmao even. giggling cutely as i sharpen my knife. don't. erase. the doctor.
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#I've played with irl atheists and catholics and everything in between#but it rarely feels like faith is a real factor for anyone-- DM or player#outside of‚ again‚ divine spellcasters and Big Epic Plot Things#I mean there are a couple of 'RAAAHGH FUCK THE GODS >:C' edgy backstory types but#no one is just Normally Culturally Religious and it's WEIRD#like it's not even a matter of faith in dnd! the gods are LITERALLY OBJECTIVELY PROVABLY REAL#so what does that MEAN for the average person! how does it shape language? business? culture?#where are the people wearing holy symbols like amulets-- or the way modern christians very casually wear crosses?#blessings over meals? prayers before bed? burnt offerings?#and like I enjoy thinking about world and culture building but I know that's A Whole Thing but even just like...#it doesn't feel like anyone believes in gods at all except clerics and paladins#like they DO because they factually exist but in the same way I 'believe in' like. the president of france.#like yeah he exists and is important to some people but has no bearing on my life whatsoever#that's such a fucking weird approach to the DIVINE in a polytheist world where those gods are YOUR CULTURE'S GODS??#I am bad at this myself but I'm not religious so it's harder for me to remember what Being Religious All The Time Casually is like lol#funny enough my character with the most intentionally religious background in this sense#is one of my ones who's ended up wrapped up in Big Plot God Things lmao#'aubree starts the campaign with a holy symbol of yondalla because of course she does why wouldn't she'#'oh okay well she's gonna get deeply and personally entangled with a bunch of death gods immediately' fdkjghkdf oh!! welp#you don't really pray to urogalan unless you're breaking ground for a new building or someone just died so it's STILL weird for her lol#but at least I had the framework there of 'oh yeah the gods exist and matter to me and my everyday life and culture' in general#about me#posts from twitter
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HOSPITALITY AND GIFT ECONOMY IN THE HIGHLANDS: A POST.
Rites of hospitality are of key importance and taken very seriously in this cultural context, especially given the frequency at which individuals will be traveling (as herders, or along intra-Highlands trade routes). These rites exist as the concept of 'Shiab's peace', a divinely mandated contract of hospitality under the watch of Shiab, goddess of the hearth and of travelers. This is invoked with a standardized verbal exchange with a member of the household- the prospective guest will greet with “I would ask Shiab’s peace of you”, the host, if accepting, will respond with “You will have Shiab’s peace here.” While not explicitly an oath, it is understood as such and ascribed the same profound significance (both social and spiritual consequences for violation).
A potential host can refuse (though usually doesn't, hosting is an honor and can be a power play), but the mere request for Shiab's peace imbues temporary spiritual protection on the asker- one’s most loathed enemy must at least be allowed to leave unharmed, even if denied guest rite. (This isn’t a get out of jail free card, a request for Shiab’s peace is a request for hospitality, not mercy, the goddess will not be protecting you if you attempt to use it in the midst of combat or etc).
Once mutually invoked, the expectations of Shiab’s peace are as follows:
The host should provide for the guest’s basic needs generously within their means, and allow them to stay for a night and provide them a place to sleep.
The guest and host much each provide their names and titles, though the guest is under no obligation to explain the reasons for their presence and cannot be asked.
The guest must accept all food offered (and gifts, though this is not specific to Shiab's peace and rather part of a wider practice in the gift-economy).
The guest must ask for nothing, and take nothing that is not offered.
The guest is under full protection of the host, and vice versa. Theft, assault, or murder committed under Shiab's peace is a grave broken oath and one should expect very severe consequences (both supernatural and mundane, should others find out).
The guest (unless offered continued hospitality) must see themselves out after sunrise the following morning. They cannot be made to leave early.
If a guest is offered continued hospitality, they should offer to participate in any needed chores (the host can accept or decline at their discretion).
The protection of Shiab's peace continues until the following sunrise after the guest leaves (ie a host cannot pursue their leaving guest to steal from them)
Shiab's peace is universal and transcends conflicts, and once invoked cannot be violated under any circumstances. Members of a rival clan or of a tribe yours is at war with, a foreigner you're suspicious of, etc, are all fully under protection (and under their full expectations as a guest).
A guest that violates their expectations can be made to leave, as they have broken the oath and are no longer protected. (in practice, many hosts will let MINOR violations slide unless the guest is like, really annoying or godawful)
The host, in practice, will usually be the wife of the household (if present), as the wife is considered the owner of a family’s home, land, and property, and has final say on how resources are used and given. The host is expected to provide the guest food and drink and a place to stay for one night, and supply any other obvious basic needs (ie: if the guest’s clothing is worn or wet, they should be given fresh clothes). These gifts should be generous within one’s means, and in practice will usually be a square meal, mead/wine/murre, multiple rounds of tea, and a breakfast the following morning. A host that does not provide expected basic needs within their means is in violation of Shiab’s peace and has broken their oath, and should expect consequences.
A guest is not literally oathbound to practice ideal social etiquette, but it's a cultural expectation (ie, the guest should finish all their food and save some bread for last to scoop up anything left in the bowl, not a hard requirement but good manners). They are fully expected to accept any and all gifts offered. A guest should neither take nor ask for anything not freely given (all basic needs should have been met by the host to begin with). It IS acceptable for a guest to imply further needs in conversation, so long as they do not directly request them: ie mentioning in conversation that their leg is hurt and they can only hope their travels do not make it worse, as it would take days of rest for it to heal (“I need to stay multiple nights, can we work that out?”), or mentioning that their pack khait has gone lame and cannot carry their supplies, they fear they will have to leave both animal and supplies behind (“Will you lend me a pack ox/khait?”). These roundabout requests are still at least expected to be Truthful in nature (and all of this is happening under the watch of a deity, there may be consequences for lying).
Hosts may give extra gifts at their discretion- these can either be charitable, or indebting. A charitable gift will be given with further verbal declaration of Shiab’s peace, which establishes it as an act of goodwill and that the guest is not in the host’s debt. An indebting gift will be given with no declaration of Shiab's peace. The guest is obligated to accept either.
Indebting gifts are a part of the wider political and economic structure of the Highlands, a separate (though linked) practice to guest hospitality. The vast majority of the economy relies on trade of goods, with an additional dimension of this gift economy. Being able to give gifts is a display of wealth and power, establishing one’s family or clan above another in a social hierarchy. The most powerful are able to give the most extravagant gifts, and will have many other clans/families considered perpetually in their debt if the gift cannot be met with one of equal or greater value. This debt is immaterial- it is not actually Expected to be paid (it’s better for the gift-giver if it ISN'T), rather it establishes/reinforces one's place in a power structure and regulates the conduct of the gift receiver (it can be evoked to call in favors or settle disputes). A debt held by a single person translates to their immediate family, while a debt held by a clan matriarch/patriarch translates to their entire clan.
Cattle raiding is both a practical means of resource acquisition and a part of this wider political schema, and often figures into the gift structure. Stealing cattle and then giving them back as a gift is a power play, it declares ‘our men are better than yours (they’ve stolen the cattle successfully) and we are wealthier than you (we don’t even need them)’, while also settling the score and dissuading retaliation. Stealing cattle and then giving MORE (or different, higher quality) cattle as a gift is a massive power play, declaring much the same things to a greater extent, dissuading retaliation, AND putting the theft victim/gift recipient into the debt of the thieves.
Power structures within tribes are passively enforced by this gift giving structure- the ruling clan of each (which in practice usually controls the best agricultural land and largest herds, and is most involved in trade) will provide gifts to all clans subservient to them (and particularly generous gifts to potential rivals), keeping them indebted and lower in the social structure. Ruling clans who lose the ability to afford to give gifts, or find themselves indebted, will often be usurped (not strictly as a result of their debt, rather that losing ability to stay on top of the gift system generally occurs in conjunction with a diminished material power/wealth).
These combined practices result in very complex, often aggravating political power structures, but reduce the frequency of open conflict between clans within a tribe (which are frequently at odds), providing other avenues for power/material acquisition and for the settling of scores. Most open conflicts occur between clans within separate tribes or entire tribes (less likely to have secure power structures enforced by gift/trade), though practices of raiding and combat-sport provide some levels of tension release via less-violent score settling.
Other dimensions of the gift economy are not directly indebting (in not establishing a power structure), and considered paid via mutual partnership. Alliances between clans of different tribes are usually established in continued gift-giving (declared explicitly as gifts of allegiance), with the implied payment being mutual material support (supplying warriors, sharing grazing land, open trade, etc), which is usually reinforced with binding oaths. Marriages also involve gifts. A bride price is fairly standard (which is a straightforward payment for property and assets the wife's mother will be passing into her son-in-law's care), and a husband who cannot supply one is considered in his mother in law's debt (and may not gain full integration into the family until this is paid). But as supplement to the bride price, members of each family will freely give gifts with no expectation of the value of their gifts being matched (declared as such by being specifically described as a gift of marriage), as a means of further allying both families and a show of goodwill.
#This figures into some small backstory stuff#The time when Brakul and Janeys were lost in the wilderness and dying so badly for a couple weeks was ended when they met a#single Naid-Troibadnas man who was a known recluse + exile + generally disliked and requested Shiab's peace from him (given they#were in the process of starving to death). The dude was meticulously polite and fulfilled his obligations as a host perfectly and#also gleefully took the opportunity to shower them in indebting gifts (especially since Brakul is Bict-Urbinnas and a rival-#and Janeys was some rich south Wardi brat who had no fucking idea what was going on and it was funny)#So Janeys was like 'Wow that guy gave us an entire khait that's fucking STUPID of him lol but great!' And Brakul's just like#Well. The second or third worst guy I know owns my ass now. And yours.#The guy still regularly informs traders along the Yellowtail route that the Haidamane family is indebted to him (doesn't expect anything#to come of it he just thinks it's hilarious) to the point that it reached Janeys' father's attention and at one point he sat him down#like Son........What the FUCK did you do.#Also this cultural backdrop made Brakul initially very wary of Janeys' propensity to give him expensive gifts.#Like he got the gist that the same practices are not at play but it still made him nervous that there was some expected debt#or an attempt to establish a power structure. (It IS kind of a power play but it's just like. courtship peacocking rather than#trying to establish superiority. And also some levels of 'please don't leave me pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease')#Though over a decade in he has no such concerns and is very content to be lavished.
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me with The Character: i love them so much they're so small and cute and precious i love them
also me with the same Character: i need to punt them. kick them across the room. bop them very very hard on the head. give them a concussion. bite their head off like they're a gummy bear
#screaming out of the abyss#i don't know how to tag this lol#this is specifically about dipper though#like monster falls dipper#but also just regular dipper pines#so i guess get tagged w/ gravity falls idiot#gravity falls#gravity falls dipper#monster falls#fandom#fandom things#fandom culture
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