#Hamas war against Israel

[cavalierzee]

Every Israeli Accusation Is A Confession

“Hamas radicalizes their kids to hate and kill Jews”

No. It’s the opposite: Every Israeli accusation is a confession.

Jory Micah

[moran-with-a-g]

Tell me, what would you think of someone who respected the Jewish people but genuinely believed that Israel is as bad as their old persecutors now?

That honestly depends on what you mean.

Part of respecting the Jewish people is respecting their right to exist in their homeland, have a country that fits their cultural needs, and knowing that that country's government actions are not a representation of the entire population.

Do they believe Israel's existence as a concept is as bad as Nazi ideology of scientific racism? Do they believe the Israeli government is as bad as Nazi Germany? Do they believe the treatment the IDF ia giving the Palestinian people is as bad as the pogroms the Jewish people went through throughout history?

When you say Israel, are you talking about the country, the government, the people, the military?

When you say as bad as their old persecutors, are you talking about the Nazis? About other people in history?

I have no issues with people who hate the Israeli government, I have no issues with people who hate the actions of the IDF, what I do have issues with is people who say "Israel" without specifying what they mean, and the people who see the need to compare "Israel" with "their old persecutors".

Because you can criticize the government and the military actions as much as your heart desires. I'm not fan of the current government, I'm also very much aware that the IDF is not an innocent force. But when you just say Israel, I would think that actually, you don't really respect Jewish people, because you don't make an effort to seperate the Israeli civilians from the actions of the military and the government.

Because for some reason, people have this obsession of comparing us to the groups who hurt us in the past. Because for some reason, they have this obsession of taking out trauma, our history, and comparing half of our people to those who who hurt us. They have the option of comparing Bibi to Putin, instead they choose Hitler. They treat our past as if it's a lesson we didn't learn, as if we were punished for some great evil we commited and still have yet to change. We're just as bad, if not worse, as the people who burnt away our history, our records and our lineage.

If they properly criticize the government, and the military, and they believe they deserve to be considered between of the worst in human history - while being able to seperate them from the people who live in Israel, the people who believe in Israel's right of existence, and they don't specifically compare them to persecutors of the Jewish people - then I wouldn't consider them antisemitic, and I would love to have a civil discussion with them, and I would probably be able to agree with at least some of what they have to say.

If they can't seperate the concept of Israel into people, government and military, and if they only compare them to persecutors of the Jewish people, while claiming they respect Jewish people - then they never bothered to listen to a Jew when they were told they're being antisemitic.

So you tell me, is that person actually respecting Jewish people, when they don't make the effort to understand what it is they're doing that's antisemitic and why?

[hayatheauthor]

The way Zionists have brainwashed the average Jew into thinking Zionism = Judaism is insane. They've radicalised an entire religious group by making them think "look the Muslims want to target Zionists which means they're targeting the Jews!!" meanwhile we have stated multiple times over and over again that ZIONISM AND JUDAISM ARE NOT THE SAME THING. We have an issue with Zionists, not Jews, your government, not its people.

This is exactly what America did under the Bush administration. "All Muslims are terrorists, Taliban = Afghani!!" They make you think an entire populus should be held accountable for XYZ atrocity, and use that to justify genocide and ethnic cleansing.

The Israeli government really works overtime trying to convince their civilians and int Jews that Muslims regard Jews as our enemy. It's honestly sad how easily they are brainwashed. But at the same time, I see Israeli protestors demanding early elections and the resignation of Netanyahu, and I hope one day their entire population can understand everything their government got away with by making them look the wrong way.

[hero-israel]

During Nuremberg Trial testimony, the prosecutor pressed Einsatzgruppen commander Otto Ohlendorf: “You were going out to shoot down defenseless people. Now, didn’t the question of the morality of that enter your mind?” Ohlendorf referred to the Allied bombings of Germany as a context:

I am not in a position to isolate this occurrence from the occurrences of 1943, 1944, and 1945 where with my own hands I took children and women out of the burning asphalt myself, and with my own hands I took big blocks of stone from the stomachs of pregnant women; and with my own eyes I saw 60,000 people die within 24 hours.

A judge immediately pointed out that his own killing spree preceded those bombings. But this would become known as the “Dresden defense,” to which Ohlendorf resorted still another time, in this exchange:

Ohlendorf: I have seen very many children killed in this war through air attacks, for the security of other nations, and orders were carried out to bomb, no matter whether many children were killed or not. Q: Now, I think we are getting somewhere, Mr. Ohlendorf. You saw German children killed by Allied bombers and that is what you are referring to? Ohlendorf: Yes, I have seen it. Q: Do you attempt to draw a moral comparison between the bomber who drops bombs hoping that it will not kill children and yourself who shot children deliberately? Is that a fair moral comparison ? Ohlendorf: I cannot imagine that those planes which systematically covered a city that was a fortified city, square meter for square meter, with incendiaries and explosive bombs and again with phosphorus bombs, and this done from block to block, and then as I have seen it in Dresden likewise the squares where the civilian population had fled to—that these men could possibly hope not to kill any civilian population, and no children.

Ohlendorf thought this defense so powerful that he invoked it yet another time:

The fact that individual men killed civilians face to face is looked upon as terrible and is pictured as specially gruesome because the order was clearly given to kill these people; but I cannot morally evaluate a deed any better, a deed which makes it possible, by pushing a button, to kill a much larger number of civilians, men, women, and children.

(The chief prosecutor, an American, called this particular iteration “exactly what a fanatical pseudo-intellectual SS-man might well believe.”)

At Nuremberg, this sort of tu quoque defense (“I shouldn’t be punished because they did it too”) wasn’t admissible. Still, in the verdict of the Einsatzgruppen Trial, the judges chose to refute it. “It was submitted,” the judges wrote, “that the defendants must be exonerated from the charge of killing civilian populations since every Allied nation brought about the death of noncombatants through the instrumentality of bombing.” The judges would have none of it:

A city is bombed for tactical purposes… it inevitably happens that nonmilitary persons are killed. This is an incident, a grave incident to be sure, but an unavoidable corollary of battle action. The civilians are not individualized. The bomb falls, it is aimed at the railroad yards, houses along the tracks are hit and many of their occupants killed. But that is entirely different, both in fact and in law, from an armed force marching up to these same railroad tracks, entering those houses abutting thereon, dragging out the men, women and children and shooting them.

The tribunal sentenced Ohlendorf to death. He was hanged in June 1951.

“In the last analysis”

Nuremberg enforced a fundamental distinction. All civilian lives are equal, but not so all ways of taking them. The deliberate and purposeful killing of civilians is a crime; not so the taking of civilian lives that is undesired, unintended, but unavoidable. The errors made by a bomber squadron cannot be deducted from the murders committed by a death squad. It’s a difference compounded many times over when those civilian men, women, and children are subjected to torture, rape, and mutilation before their murder. To borrow Khalidi’s phrase, “in the last analysis,” this distinction is what separates modern civilization from its predecessors.

More disturbing is the thought that it separates the contemporary West from its peers. Otto Ohlendorf and the regime he served did all they could to conceal their deeds from Western eyes. Nazi Germany still operated in a West founded on Enlightenment values. So massive a violation of a shared patrimony needed to be hidden from view.

In contrast, Hamas initially sought to publicize its deeds, assuming they would win applause, admiration, or at least tacit acceptance in the Arab and Muslim worlds. Here they succeeded beyond their expectations. The many millions who don’t share the West’s patrimony, and who know next to nothing about the Holocaust or Nuremberg, do see things as Khalidi says they see them. (So, too, does a sliver of alienated opinion in the West, where such views are cultivated and celebrated.)

Finally, and still more disturbing, is the fact that Ohlendorf’s defense has been revived to frame the massacre of Jews. 

[taviamoth]

I can't look at this image directly when I'm posting it because not only does the one pictured ignore 200+ brutal murders in a monstrous display of white supremacy and dehumanization, he is (I am struggling to not say it) openly lying.

Shamelessly. Completely. Greviously. With authority. Being presumably regularly briefed on the negotiation process, he is telling everyone something he knows not to be true, in service of mass murder.

A full ceasefire has been the one non-negotiable for Hamas for months. They want aid delivery and reconstruction but the most important thing is just an end to the genocide. Full stop. netanyahu is facing extreme fire within israel & is done for when that ceasefire comes, so it isn't coming. They keep saying no.

But that doesn't stop stark naked reality denial. It doesn't stop people like this telling the opposite of truth. It's like if someone beat you near death and when people arrived started saying you did it to them, actually, and being believed. I'm left here just staring into nothing failing to comprehend how a person lies so shamelessly, so nonsensically, in service of evil without ever contemplating suicide. How is he able to sleep? By reminding himself that Palestinians aren't people?

It doesn't matter what Hamas says or does. They will always be lied about however it befits the liar.

[aestariiwilderness]

TW: GRAPHIC, GORE, CHILD MURDER. More included in the source; I wish I had not seen.

This is heartbreaking. When you need to coin a new word for the evil Hamas rejoiced in. Torturing, mutilating, and killing infants and children in front of parents; torturing, mutilating, and killing parents in front of children. Burning families alive.

There is no justification for this.

This was evil, plain and simple. Everyone who supports Hamas also supports this. Hamas will die -- as an idea and as a group. It's inevitable. When the name is spit on or forgotten in history books, and cowards round the globe hastily distance themselves from what they so fanatically supported not so long ago -- when all that happens, Israel will still be there.

But in the meantime, if you can look at crimes like this and still support Hamas, still insist Israel has no right to exist, still insist Israel doesn't have the right to win a war she didn't start -- May God have mercy on you. (Hamas won't.)

[benjaminallhope-fulltimemind]

This is an important reminder that pointing out homophobia isn't a rebuttal or justification for genocide, it's fucking awful that people will use the LGBTQIA+ community as a limp wristed justification and excuse for war while also perpetuating oppressive heteronormative power structures. No matter ones gender, sexuality, or creed genocide is evil and must be stopped period with full force. Attempting to expose some non-existent hypocrisy simply shows that you support the side that's commiting genocide. Just to be clear as a queer person I oppose terrorism and the oppression of LGBTQIA+ people however that all pales in the face of genocide, Israel is commiting genocide and no crime no matter how vile or awful justifies the horror Israel has inflicted on the Palestinians.

[cavalierzee]

Israeli Society Is The Problem

Israeli Society Is The Problem, NOT JUST Netanyahu

Despite blaming the prime minister, A LARGE MAJORITY OF JEWISH ISRAELI CITIZENS SUPPORT HIS DESTRUCTIVE POLICIES IN GAZA AND BEYOND.

[sw1tchbackli]

Their Fight Is Our Fight….

Today on International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women, we will continue to fight for a world where every woman is safe—including those who suffered on October 7th.

Reposted from IDF-Israel Defence Forces /Security Forces

[the-garbanzo-annex-jr]

by Seth J. Frantzman

In retrospect, it’s important to look at UNRWA as an organization that was created to thwart the establishment of Israel. The UN approved the Partition Plan for British Mandate Palestine in 1947. Israel declared independence in 1948.

UNRWA was then established and took a significant portion of the Palestinian population under its wing, effectively becoming a state within a state.

Because Egypt and Jordan had taken over the areas of the Arab state that were supposed to be established based on the Partition Plan, UNRWA stepped in as a kind of state in the making for Palestinians. Most people don’t view UNRWA as a proto-state, but in essence, that is what it has become.

UNRWA camps served as the foundation for the majority of Palestinian political – and, later, militant and terrorist – activities. Schools and refugee camps organized spaces for the groups that emerged, ranging from Fatah to the PFLP to Hamas.

For instance, Hamas gained power partly through areas in Gaza, such as Khan Yunis, from which killed leader Yahya Sinwar hailed. Many other refugee camps also became known as bases of various groups and gunmen.

UNRWA would prefer not to take responsibility for the fact that its camps became the main organizing ground for gunmen and terrorism. In fact, the rejection of Israel’s existence comes primarily from the UNRWA camps.

What that means is that the UNRWA state or empire was organized to destroy Israel and use the refugees as the main engine of this destruction. For decades, the number of refugees has grown, and their political aspirations have shifted from supporting two states to supporting one state. October 7 was an outgrowth of this shift.

The concept of UNRWA is to keep Palestinians dependent, living in refugee camps generation after generation, while using its young men as foot soldiers to fight Israel.Winding down the camps and having the people live normal lives and believe in two states and peace could have potentially resulted in peace. However, the UNRWA mandate was never to embrace peace, two states, and coexistence.

One can draw a direct line from the end of the Second World War and the end of the Holocaust to the establishment of the State of Israel and the creation of UNRWA as a weapon in the hands of the international community to try to undermine Israel and use refugees as proxies against Israel.

This line is clear because the UN played a key role in the Partition Plan.  The UN then undermined its own plan by creating UNRWA, which served to perpetuate the conflict.Each succeeding generation has taken up the baton from the UNRWA camps and launched wars against Israel. The first war occurred in the 1950s, when Egypt used “infiltrators” and fedayeen (guerrillas) against Israel.

Then there was the Jordanian Civil War, aka Black September, in the 1970s. The war then moved to Lebanon, where Palestinians upended the Lebanese system, leading to Israel’s invasion in 1982.

Then the movement moved via Tunisia back to Gaza and the West Bank and laid the groundwork for the First Intifada. When the Oslo peace deal emerged, Hamas emerged to upend it.

Since the 1990s, the UNRWA camps have not embraced two states or peace but have instead continued to embrace extremism, thereby becoming a hotbed for radicalism.The road to October 7 was paved from there. In Gaza, when Hamas took over, UNRWA didn’t oppose Hamas but was available to partner with it.

Now, Gaza has been destroyed in another war because of UNRWA’s unwillingness to end this conflict and stop using refugees as a tool against Israel.

[hiba91]

"Yusuf Fares @Yusuf198989

The Abu Nasser family in Beit Lahia opened their home to host displaced families from the Jabalia camp. The occupation bombed the five-story building, which was sheltering 200 displaced people. More than 75 have been martyred so far, and neighbors are trying to search for those who remain. There are no medical teams or civilian ambulances in the besieged areas.

#North_Gaza_Is_Annihilated

People are trapped under the rubble, and no one can get them out!"

[mylight-png]

At this point if you don't know anything about Arab colonization (as in done by Arabs, not to them) then maybe you shouldn't be commenting on a region you clearly know absolutely nothing about.

[toshootforthestars]

ALT text:

Jake Sherman (with Punchbowl News) tweeted:

Breaking News--In a reversal, Speaker Johnson will put a bill on the floor to send $17.6 billion to Israel with no corresponding spending cuts, a reversal meant to preempt the Senate's border-and-national-security supplemental. Here's a letter from Johnson to the House GOP: https://pbwl.news/xx3 ...This plan is a shift for Johnson. The House passed a bill that tied Israel aid to domestic spending cuts. Senate leaders plan to release their supplemental spending bill this weekend. In the letter, Johnson said the House would not give "swift consideration" to that legislation.

Reporter Mehdi Hasan quote-tweeted:

Seventeen. Point. Six. Billion. Dollars. I would love to see polling on how many Americans agree with sending this much of their taxpayer money - more than the entire budgets of several U.S. states - to a foreign nation that the ICJ has said is plausibly committing genocide.

(source)

[cyarsk5230]

The 🍉 gang is DISGUSTINGLY antisemitic

No diff than the racist 🌹 brigade

If you see a post with these two 🍉🌹: automatically block their arss!

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

Dr. Phil: There are some things that are just fundamental human decency, and when I ask you if what happened on October 7th is something you condemn, and you say, "Well, you have to look at that by looking at hundreds of years of conflict," no you don't. No, you don't. That's either right or it's wrong, and it was wrong, and I don't need a hundred years of conflict to know it was wrong.

Activist: The fact of the matter of is that Hamas, yes did take innocent life. Why did Hamas take away Hamas innocent life? Why was Hamas platformed, why was Hamas funded, why was Hamas empowered to take away innocent life? 

Dr. Phil: Let me tell you something, let me tell you something. When somebody comes over a fence and goes into someone's house and burns their infant in their crib, I don't give a damn why they did it. It's wrong.

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Dr. Phil: I've read it that the charter of Hamas is to eliminate the Jewish race. Beginning with Israel, but not stopping with Israel, wiping them off the face of the Earth. Is that true?

Mosab Yousef: This is true. But it does not end there. Now we have the problem of the pro-Palestine who are actually giving Hamas cover. They're participants in the crime.

In fact, since October 7, I personally don't differentiate between Hamas and what's so-called Palestinians. Cause actually there is no Palestinians. There are tribes, there is the tribe of Hamas and the tribe of the Islamic Jihad and there is the tribe of Al Khalil and there is the tribe of Nablus. And each one has different interests and all of them are conflicted. If they did not have Israel as the common enemy, they would kill each other. This is the reality of what's so-called Palestine.

Activist: You realize that's common colonial rhetoric? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

Yousef: You don't know what Palestine is. Actually, in fact, the keffiyeh that you are wearing, this is just a statement to show that you really lack the authenticity to represent the kids. And what's so-called "the cause," this is a human problem. The cause must die. I think enough is enough. And now it's proven, and you are helping Hamas to prove it to the world. That Palestine depends on the destruction of the State of Israel. And this is not acceptable, and we are not going to agree to it.

And I tell you something. For the next 10 or 20 years, the Palestinian people will pay the bill Hamas has cost today. And most likely in blood.

Activist: To you, Hamas and Palestinians are the same, they're one and the same.

Yousef: After October 7, yes. There is no difference.

Activist: Really?

Yousef: The vast majority of the Palestinian people support Hamas.

Activist: Really?

Yousef: This is a fact. This is proven by statistics and your silence now. You are not even, you cannot even condemn Hamas and say that what they did on October 7 was an act of a savage group. You don't have that power.

On what authority do you speak? You only speak on the authority of Hamas propaganda.

Activist: No, I'm -- why do you say that I'm speaking on the authority of Hamas propaganda?

Yousef: Because if you were a decent human being, you can say that the thousands who were killed on October 7, that was a crime against humanity, it was a genocide.

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When a stupid, stupid little girl playing activist, finds out she's an ignorant idiot regurgitating buzzwords and being used to provide cover for terrorism by a fanatical far-right supremacist cult.

I've been saying it for months. They CANNOT, WILL NOT condemn Hamas. Not one of them will do it. Because they support it. They support "the cause": eradicating the Jews from the face of the Earth.

Pro-Palestine is pro-Hamas. They are the same. There is no difference. They support terrorists. We need to treat these fanatics as terrorists. No, I'm not kidding or exaggerating.

BTW, now you know why Egypt won't take them - they're savage tribes who would just as soon murder each other.

[workersolidarity]

🇵🇸🇮🇱 🚨 RELEASED PRISONER DESCRIBES THE HORRIBLE TREATMENT OF PALESTINIANS IN ISRAELI PRISONS

Freed Palestinian prisoner Ruqaya Amr on the treatment of Palestinians in Israeli prisons at the hands of the occupation authorities:

"The occupation treated us harshly, starving us, isolating us, and cutting off our water... Our joy in freedom is diminished because of the tragedy of our people in Gaza, and we honor these great sacrifices of our people."

#source

@WorkerSolidarityNews