#Gaza is going to be a a beachfront property

[cyarskj1899]

they did this. remember them.

[mariacallous]

I know a lot of them are just Russian bots running psyop campaigns, but I wonder how many of the people refusing to vote for Harris because of Gaza realize that they're doing exactly what Netanyahu wants them to do. He clearly wants Trump to win and knows that Gaza supporters aren't going to vote for Trump, so the best he can hope for is for them to not vote at all (or vote for Jill Stein, which is functionally the same as not voting given that she polls at 2% on a good day).

There are two candidates with a chance to win. One of them clearly doesn't care about Gaza and would be advised by people like Jared Kushner, who talks about Gaza's valuable "beachfront property." The other cares at least a little about Gaza and would be advised by at least some people who care a lot about it. I think it's safe to say who the people of Gaza would rather see win.

And that's not even mentioning the West Bank, where the Biden administration has placed sanctions on extremist Israeli settlers over the loud objections of hardliners in the Israeli government, something that would almost certainly be maintained and maybe even expanded under Harris but would probably be undone under Trump.

Voting for Jill Stein or refusing to vote isn't helping Palestinians, it's letting Russian trolls trick you into doing Netanyahu's bidding.

A lot of them don’t care, or at least say they don’t.

[wisteriaovermybarefeet]

White liberals: I don't understand how the US has shifted so far right!

Also white liberals: joking about calling ICE on Latino voters who went for Trump // fuck the boycott I'm going to Starbucks since Arab voters wanted to vote Trump // Trump's gonna turn Gaza into beachfront property lololol // telling black third party voters they hope they enjoy being murdered by police

Baby, you are the right.

[threewaysdivided]

Gaza is NOT an excuse to sit out this election

I don't usually post about politics on this blog (if anything I try to avoid it since I know it can be a distressing topic) but, to be honest, the upcoming U.S. presidential election has me concerned.

This is going to be one of, if not THE most globally consequential election of our time, and I have been deeply perturbed to see people spreading sentiment that sitting this vote out (or even voting for Trump) is justified by the Democratic Party's handling of the genocide in Gaza.

I was going to write a post about why I think that's really dangerous and irresponsible rhetoric, but then U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders came out and said the same things far better so I'm going to share his video, and some key quotes:

"SOME of you are saying: "How can I vote for Kamala Harris if she is supporting this terrible war?" And that is a very fair question. And let me give you my best answer. AND that is that, even on this issue, Donald Trump and his right-wing friends are worse. In the Senate, in Congress, the Republicans have worked overtime to block humanitarian aid to the starving children in Gaza. [Current President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris] support getting as much humanitarian aid into Gaza as soon as possible. TRUMP has said Netanyahu is "doing a good job." And has said Biden is holding him back. [Trump] has suggested that the Gaza Strip would make excellent beachfront property for development. [...] AFTER Kamala wins, we will together do everything we can to change U.S. policy towards Netanyahu: An immediate ceasefire, the return of all hostages, a surge of massive humanitarian aid, the stopping of settler attacks on the West Bank, and the rebuilding of Gaza for the Palestinian people. AND let me be clear: We will have, in my view, a much better chance of changing U.S. policy with [Kamala Harris] than with [Donald Trump], who is extremely close to Netanyahu and sees him as a like-minded, right-wing extremist ally. [...] AS important as Gaza is [...] it is not the only issue at stake in this election. IF Trump wins, women in this country will suffer an enormous setback and lose the ability to control their own bodies. [...] IF Trump wins, to be honest with you, the struggle against climate change is over. [...] Trump believes [climate change] is a hoax. And if the United States, the largest economy in the world, stops transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel, every other country, China, Europe, all over the world, they will do exactly the same thing. And God only knows the kind of planet we will leave to our kids and future generations."

And now I am going to editorialise a few more points:

Firstly, I want to emphasise that the upcoming election is about damage control and harm reduction, not about political allegiance or moral purity. The point of casting your vote is not to signal support for a candidate, but to cancel out a vote for the more damaging candidate by voting for their opposition in the two party system. Let me be clear on that: under the U.S.'s current first-past-the-post voting arrangement, voting for a minor third party or independent is functionally useless during an election of this magnitude. It is a symbolic gesture that's functionally and morally equivalent to sitting out.

Story time: I come from a country which uses a preferential ranked-choice system and where voting is compulsory for all eligible citizens (a system which lowers campaign costs, incentivizes governments to make voting more accessible country-wide and limits attempts at voter suppression not that right-wing parties haven't tried). Despite us actually having a few substantial progressive third parties, there have been several times where I've sucked it up and voted for the major centrist party specifically to keep the major conservative right-wing party from gaining or maintaining power. We call this vote-them-out and keep-them-out politics - it's pretty much the default approach here, and it should be yours too because the idea of a "perfect party" is a fallacy. When human rights are on the line, pick the least-worst major option. The aim is to cancel out a vote for the other guy. Even with this, we recently lost our state to the major conservative-right party (running on a platform of youth-criminalization and abortion-bans) by a mere 8 percent margin - just in case you want evidence of how much impact a small number of votes can make, and how dangerous it can be to get complacent.

Secondly, for those Americans who still believe that not voting will keep you from being complicit in the Genocide in Gaza. Let me speak to you as a White Australian: you are already complicit in and benefiting from a genocide. Multiple, in fact. You and I both live, learn, work and profit on land that was forcibly seized through the murder and dispossession of First Nations peoples, similar to how Palestinians are being murdered and dispossessed of their land right now. When you enjoy chocolate and vanilla, you are benefiting from spices that were brought to the Global West via the colonization of Latin America, and that were historically (and in chocolate's case still is) cultivated by enslaved people. The phone/tablet/computer you are reading this post on is likely made using conflict minerals. I'm sorry, but you don't get to wring your hands over Gaza at a distance and pretend that sitting this vote out absolves you of genocide, while ignoring the ones your (and my) ancestors committed to bring you that luxury. You just don't. And again, as Senator Sanders said, Trump wants to bulldoze Gaza and turn it into Netanyahu's beachfront property development. You don't get to pretend that standing aside and knowingly letting someone else vote for him to do that is the more moral option.

Thirdly I want to point to that last part that I highlighted in Senator Sander's speech. I am not a USAmerican, but this election scares me because of America's global impact. If you are an American voter reading this, you need to understand that your country is too globally influential for you to neglect your civic responsibilities. I was working as a member of my country's national public service under a right-wing government during the Trump era and things got bad. A woman was raped inside Parliament House, video emerged of male staffers masturbating on female colleagues' desks and our then-Prime Minister quipped that it was a "triumph of democracy" that the women who marched in protest weren't "met with bullets". There was the same sort of culture-war mismanagement and misinformation about COVID-19, there were Neo-Nazis, and there was a failure to properly condemn or correct either of those things. Progress towards sustainability and clean energy slowed, and our Prime Minister secretly tried to seize personal control over five separate government departments. Sure, some of that would have happened with or without a Trump administration after all, we didn't need a Republican U.S. President to produce an onion-eating misogynist who hates homosexuals despite his own sister being one but the rest of the world looks to the U.S. to set the tone on what is acceptable in government. When the largest country votes in (or sits aside and lets other people vote in) someone as egocentric, openly prejudiced, corrupt, anti-science, greed-motivated, war-hungry, and dictatorially-minded as Donald Trump, it signals to other leaders that that is the acceptable standard. Even when it's absolutely not. When you choose to sit out (or cast a meaningless symbolic vote) rather than effectively use your civic power as a U.S. citizen, the outcome affects millions of global citizens who never had the option of giving their input.

Finally, I want you to listen to this podcast by Dr Robin DiAngelo and think about what the choice to waste your vote signals to the people around you. To the members of your community who are women, BIPOC, LGBT+, disabled, have migrant parents or who live countries that are effected by American policy (which is all of them, by the way. Y'all are big). We are not asking much from you. Queue for a slightly-annoying amount of time, get your identity confirmed at a sign-in table and then cast a ballot. Tick a box that indicates you'd rather let a qualified centre-left attorney and former senator have a chance of improving things, instead of a dictator-lionizing convicted felon who openly wants dismantle voting systems so that he'll never lose again. That's it. Get yourself to a polling booth and tick a box. We are not asking you to make an effort. We are not asking you to volunteer. We are not asking you run petitions, or call representatives or donate money or do meal deliveries or any kind of community work. Just tick a box. Vote. Anonymously. No one even needs to know what box you ticked.

If that is too much to ask of you, then what right do you have to call yourself any kind of ally? Think about the enormous privilege you are displaying by deciding that you can neglect this, and the fragility you are showing by deciding that a simple anonymous vote is too morally taxing. What reason would we have to ever believe you'd help us compromise on future solutions when you've shown you'd rather throw away possibly the last meaningful vote you may ever get on a Nirvana Fallacy? Why would we ever believe that we could rely on you to help or defend us when you couldn't even work up the courage and stamina to tick a box?

If that's too much for you, then fine. You're a coward, but fine. Just don't pretend to be anything else. And certainly don't hide behind the actual, ongoing suffering of real people as justification for your civic negligence. Do not use Gaza as an excuse to sit out this November 5th.

This website provides information on how to check your registration, register if you haven't, and find a polling booth. So does this one.

Do your duty. Get yourself ready. Go vote.

Then buy yourself some ethical chocolate to wash the bad taste out of your mouth.

[space-antlers-in-space]

I don't know if I'll even keep this post up because to be honest, the people I see and follow on here don't seem to be guilty of this and also my reach here is not big. But I have to say, the reaction on the "left" to this election result has been a deeply radicalizing experience. What a huge embarrassment. Did I hope for a Kamala win? Yes. I believe that the fights we need to undertake going forward would have been easier. I think we would've been fighting on at least fewer fronts under her administration. Did I give myself one day after we got the result to sulk and feel sorry for myself? Also yes! I'm trans! Donald Trump ran a historic number of ads directed straight at me and my community and farmed up a gigantic amount of fear and hate, and it worked. But oh my god. The scope of the crashout among liberals has been completely insane. I've seen people crowing about going back to Starbucks and McDonald's, praying for hurricanes to wipe out red states and proclaiming they're done and tired and not to ask them for help anymore.

I saw Palestinians and other leftists predicting this exact outcome months and months ago. And me, a lil white queer chilling in a blue state, i thought that might be an overly pessimistic view. Never did I think the reaction would be so instant and vicious and I've been proven so incredibly wrong. And I'll eat that! Of course I never argued with anyone about that prediction because I know my blind spots and where I sit. If longtime organizers and people of color are telling me that milktoast liberals will cut and run the second things get hard, they know something I don't. And I sure know now. GOD. Like i see it now. I see what actual leftists mean by the two sides being functionally the same. I watched democrats take an L and then immediately start acting exactly like conservatives; buying Starbucks in some smug attempt to "trigger" everyone, climbing into comment sections to fantasize out loud about buying beachfront property in Gaza, making cringey dramatic TikToks with filters and audio to act out ignoring a Palestinian crying for help. I get being angry, i get the urge to look for someone to blame but there isnt! Nobody is to blame for electing Trump except Trump voters, and the Democratic party for failing to understand what was important to their base. The numbers simply do not support the idea that "palestinian influencers convinced everyone not to vote" or "jill stein did it again" or anything. What the numbers do show is a huge swing to the right among white gen-z and a predictable majority of white voters of every age voting for him. If you wanna do something productive take a look at how high school boys are being funneled into the alt-right at an alarming pace. But no. You're outing yourselves for what you've always been; punitive, cruel, self-centered and with the moraI convictions of an overcooked noodle. I'm so glad I've surrounded myself with people who are just as disgusted by this as me, and who keep sharing fundraisers and refuse to let this fight die.

I also want to be clear I'm not angry or dismissive of anyone that's really terrified by the prospect of another Trump presidency. I am too, and i do really wish it hadn't shaken out this way. But I promise you, there are frameworks in place to keep as many people safe as we can. Catastrophizing is not helpful and disregards the work people have been doing to prepare for events like this for a long, long time. Queer communities, communities of color, communities supporting reproductive Healthcare, have been around for ages. Find resources, help others out, we can go underground if we have to. We have before. Be smart and be kind, that's the only way forward. Remember that.

[itsgonnabmay]

He said the Gaza strip would make "great beachfront property." So many people are going to die because of this fascist piece of shit

[kandoros]

If you're voting third party, you're not helping anyone. In the current first past the post system, and with the current third parties in the United States (which only seem to show up once every four years to run for president and nothing else), then there are really only possible outcomes of the election: Harris or Trump.

If you don't like that, then try to get things changed to something like a ranked choice voting system, and work to build an actual third party from the ground up.

But for this election, the result is going to be Harris or Trump. It just is.

So if you're concerned about Palestine (and for the sake of this argument we'll ignore the LGBT community, racial minorities, immigrants, and Ukrainians who would also be hurt by a Trump victory) then you should be voting on who will help Palestinians more and who will hurt them less.

And the answer to that is unquestionably Harris. She and Biden might not have been successful at everything you wanted, but they have tried to get cease fires and get more aid in. So it might not be much, but it's not nothing.

Trump on the other hand, has said that Israel needs to finish the job, his son-in-law is lining up to snatch up Gaza beachfront property and build condos, and has been talking to Netanyahu to get him to continue the war so that Biden & Harris will look ineffective to help Trump win, at which point the US will really help Israel out.

And if that last point seems conspiratorial, then go look at the history of Nixon axing Vietnam peace talks in the runup to the 1968 election, Reagan making a deal for Iran to keep the hostages until he got into office at which point he's arrange an arms deal, and Trump himself holding up aid to Ukraine unless they would manufacture bullshit against his political opponents.

Now that third parties are out of the way, let's look at just abstaining.

That's not going to help either. Because politicians listen much more to people who vote than they do to people who don't. Voting is the most concrete way you can send a signal to a politician, and they're pretty much deaf to any other medium.

Consider this: to get a vote from someone who doesn't vote, a politician has to do two things - convince them to vote and convince them to vote for her. And the end result will be that they get one vote.

Meanwhile, if they manage to convert someone who was going to vote for their opponent, they only have to do the one thing - convince them to vote for her. And the result of that is not only that they gain a vote, but that their opponent loses a vote.

So in a world with limited time and money to campaign, you can see how the second option would be tempting.

And historically, that's what the Democratic party has done. After the smashing Reagan gave them in the 80's, they started watering down their FDR New Deal and Johnson Great Society policies in an attempt to be more Republican and get some of those voters to switch parties.

So by abstaining, you're not sending the message "Hey Kamala! If you want my vote you need to do more for Palestine!".

You're telling her: "Hey Kamala! I'm not a voter, so if you want to win you should shift you're Palestinian policies to match what people who do vote want!"

And you really need to consider whether or not that message helps or hurts the people in Gaza.

This is the thing with the "I won't vote for Harris" supposed leftists.

None of them will tell you how allowing Trump to be elected helps.

Because they don't have an answer.

Because they don't really care about anything other than how they personally feel.

Actual leftism involves making pragmatic moves. The public will for revolution doesn't exist, and we live in a two party system. If you want to fight that system, great. There are things like ranked choice voting and the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact we need to be fighting for. But those are fights that have to happen year round, at the state level, and not just in an election year.

And in the meanwhile, you vote defensively and strategically, in an attempt to save as many people as possible.

Saying you aren't voting for Harris isn't taking a stand against genocide. It's putting your head in the sand and admitting you care more about your own comfort than making a difference in the world.

Why aren't you getting involved in your local politics? Why aren't you running leftist candidates at a local level, so you can move them up in the system and eventually move the political discussion left. You want to know why politics have moved right? It's because the right wing has been doing that for decades.

Your refusal to participate won't save a single life.

It only means you're abandoning everyone else.

[thedepressedjuggalette]

The world is going to give you Palestine Protestors one last chance to save Palestine via saving American Democracy.

HELP HARRIS FIGHT TRUMP LEGALLY.

Donate to the Harris Fight Fund.

Why?

Because she and Biden ALREADY SAID THEY WANT A CEASE FIRE YOU FUCKING MORON.

Trump will not entertain you and WILL use the military to silence you and turn Gaza into a crater. Even Trump's son outright said he wants to turn Gaza into a beachfront property.

Do you want that?

The people of Palestine outright said to vote for Harris and you ignored them.

You have a chance here to take back what you failed to do.

Fucking listen this time.

Donate or just admit you are complicit in the genocide.

[cyarsk52-20]

I was told the Democrats needed to be taught a lesson. Welp, lesson learned I guess

I hope the "Free Palestine" movement know it is done,done. Screwing over Black ppl is the worst thing they could have done. Hope they enjoy living in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan cause that's where they are going to be sent to.

While Gaza is beachfront property.

and don’t expect black ppl to help you protest against it because you backstabbed them.

We’re in our villain era for four years: watching those who asked for all this suffering to suffer because they didn’t frucking listen! 😊😂🤭

[cyarskj1899]

The Arab-Americans who backed Trump in Dearborn, Michigan, sent him this letter today (but addressed to the White House…) urging him to fulfill his promises to the community and work on an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon

File this under “BLACK PEOPLE TOLD YOU!!”” You are new to this, we’ve been dealing with them for over 400 years. Now the Palestine ppl are going to fade away due to genocide, hostages are being be abused if not executed, and Gaza gonna be a beachfront property for trump and his friends as the face eating leopards feast amongst your bodies!!

meanwhile the black ppl who WARNED you ingrates about this will just sit back and watch yall suffer don’t ask us for anything regarding the free Palestine movement again! Let’s go get some Starbucks

[nyaisms]

went on tiktok to see how people are reacting to a trump win, what's being discussed and it's so disturbing seeing the comments on interviews with arap americans criticizing harris, or how people are going in droves to harass Palestinian tik tokers for daring to publicly consider not voting for Harris. Honestly its terrible but go fucking see that shit. There's this white girl who brought up another attack on Israel and people are yelling at her to shut up. People are going from saying they're looking forward to buying starbucks again to "I can't wait to buy beachfront property in gaza"

Seeing this in-between videos of Palestinians, in Gaza, crying and begging for the smallest bit of help. Fucking foul. No other way to say it

[realtaukunlimited-1]

What is going on in GAZA, is a devastating, terrible thing... 🤔 Although Israel has the right to defend itself, 'Genocide', is not a form of self-defense...! 🙄 But after it's all said and done, Palestinians are not Afro-Americans or consider themselves Black, and we have OUR OWN issues to deal with; so stop putting Palestinians ahead of Afro-Americans and their issues here in the United States, because that is just asinine... Especially when they want to slam Black folks, criticize Black Democrats, and not say a word to Trump and his crew, who's trying to assist Nutty Yahoo into turning their land into beachfront property... 🤨  I said what I said...! 😒 #FuggHAMAS & #FuggNuttyYahoo Just #RealTauk

 Palestinian-American lawmaker denied opportunity to speak at DNC shares ...

[lostbluewind]

Hind's Hall is currently at over 5,500,000 plays on Spotify, over 2 million views on Youtube for the music video, and over 700,000 views on Youtube for the audio only version. All proceeds, of course, are going to UNRWA. I'm so happy to see the turnout on the song and videos. Please, please keep streaming the song and doing your daily clicks on Arab.org.

But I found another couple of songs I thought people would like to know about. The singer's name is Seth Stanton Watkins. The song above is an original song, written by Seth, and posted to Youtube on December 22, 2023. It currently, as of May 14, 2024, has 444,158 views on Youtube, and 62,909 plays on Spotify.

Seth is donating all streaming revenue of both this song and Fields of Palestine to Operation Olive Branch to go to families in Gaza. The link to stream on Spotify can be found here.

Please consider streaming Oh Palestine, Oh Palestine and Fields of Palestine alongside Hind's Hall, that way both UNRWA and Operation Olive Branch are able to do their jobs to help.

The description of the Youtube video reads:

"*All streaming revenue will be donated to families in Gaza via Operation Olive Branch*

"You may choose to look the other way but you can never say again that you did not know." - William Wilberforce

The US once again vetoed an amendment to the UN resolution on Gaza calling for a permanent ceasefire and abstained from the vote for a neutered resolution calling for increased aid but no ceasefire.

At the time of writing (12/22/2023), 20,000+ Palestinian civilians have been martyred in Gaza over the past 77 days. In other modern conflicts, the proportion of children killed is usually around 6-8%. In Gaza, it is 40%, roughly 8,000 and counting. Many thousands more are likely dead beneath the rubble. Half the population is starving and hundreds of thousands now suffer from the spread of preventable disease. Hundreds of trucks with aid are waiting at the border as Israel prevents most from entering.

At this point, Israel has bombed virtually every corner of Gaza, including any space they have designated as a 'safe zone'. They have captured and summarily executed, point blank, men, women, and children. Zionist settlers have already drawn up plans for beachfront properties where Palestinian homes once stood. The Israeli civilian fatalities from Oct. 7th now sit at 695 individuals (we mourn their loss) and we now have video evidence of Israeli tanks in Kibbutz Be'eri shelling Israeli homes with as many as 15 occupants still inside.

The death and destruction wrought by the IDF is unprecedented in modern times and must be unilaterally condemned. The callous disregard for Palestinian lives from the Israeli and US governments is depravity beyond comprehension. This disregard resulted in the execution of three Israeli hostages by the IDF, mistaken for Palestinian civilians, who despite having been shirtless, weaponless, and bearing clearly visible white flags, were shot and killed, one in the back as he ran away crying for help in Hebrew.

I have seen footage that I cannot unsee and I weep for the martyrs and all those still suffering. Please follow the brave journalists and reporters on the ground in Gaza for daily updates and first hand accounts of the many war crimes now attributable to the IDF. Motaz, Bisan, and Ahmed Hijazi are but a few. If you want to learn more about the history referenced in each verse, you can read the following books by Palestinian, Israeli, and Jewish authors.

1. "The Hundred Years War on Palestine" by Rashid Khalidi

2. "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe 3. "The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Gaza and the Occupied Territories" by Ilan Pappe

4. "Gaza: An Inquest Into Its Martyrdom" by Norman Finkelstein

5. "On Palestine" by Noam Chomsky and Ilan Pappe

6. "The General's Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine" by Miko Peled

7. "Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History" by Nur Masalha

8. "Ten Myths About Israel" by Ilan Pappe

9. "The Palestinian Laboratory" by Antony Loewenstein

10. "The Punishment of Gaza" by Gideon Levy

Finally, I reject wholeheartedly any and all forms of anti-Semitism but also recognize the basic truth that anti-Zionism does not equal anti-Semitism. There are many thousands of Jewish people around the world who are anti-Zionist, many of whom are very outspoken, and we need only listen.

CEASEFIRE NOW.

END THE APARTHEID.

FREE PALESTINE."

Lyrics:

In 1948, the natives were expelled From the land of the ancestors, their homes and cities shelled

From the traitors in Transjordan and the clandestine British demand, by the settler Zionist army that rampaged across the land

Oh Palestine, oh Palestine, We hear your desperate plea That once again across the land Your people can be free

Oh Palestine, Oh Palestine Your people live in fear We demand your emancipation From the river to the sea

In 1967, Israel did invade To conquer and to colonize What little had remained

The people of old Palestine Once again their fates entwined With the Zionist occupation Of their homes and weary minds

Oh Palestine, oh Palestine, We hear your desperate plea That once again across the land Your people can be free

Oh Palestine, Oh Palestine Your people live in fear We demand your emancipation From the river to the sea

In 2023, they’ve come a final time To destroy your homes and families With a murderous lethal design

The bombs o’er head are falling As our leaders continue their lies The sky does glow and the blood it flows As we hear the children's cries

Oh Palestine, oh Palestine, We hear your desperate plea That once again across the land Your people can be free

Oh Palestine, Oh Palestine Your people live in fear We demand your emancipation From the river to the sea

We stand with your emancipation Your people will be free

[julio-claudian-saberface]

There is this Thing that happens sometimes where someone makes an outrageous statement and when the predictable backlash happens they hide behind "but it was satire! Can't you take a joke?" Except the outrageous aspect being complained about comes off as... aspirational? As if Jonathan Swift thought eating babies was actually a good idea?

Like an environmentalist group going "Of course we don't really suggest blowing up children for being insufficiently enthusiastic about reducing carbon emissions, but wouldn't it be nice if we could?"

Or a real estate company going "Of course we're not really planning to build beachfront properties over the blasted wreckage of Gaza, but wouldn't it be nice if we could?"

[cyarskj1899]

Dearborn, MI has reached the #FindOut phase rather quickly. Buyer’s remorse is going to be painful in ways Tlaib forgot to mention when she & her sister started their self destructive strategy of ‘making their voices heard.’

And btw, how tf them claiming to be ‘the base’ of the Democratic Party shows just how delusional the mindset is from the start. Tlaib is one helluva story teller but she sold them a nightmare they are stuck in. But hey, their voices were heard, ‘from the river to ……………….’

We tried to warn you but nooooo you didn't wanna listen...#FAFO2025

Nah. They’ll be fine. Where are all the hijab-wearing ww at?? Y’all are up to bat!

The audacity of it all... free Palestine movement asking President Biden and Vice President Harris to do some drastic things to protect them and their Palestinians from what Donald Trump will have in store for them. Lol. Yo, these people are bold as hell. Like seriously bold. Lol

congratulations you guys, thanks to you Gaza is now Elon & Miller's BEACHFRONT PROPERTIES. enjoy your leopard Eaten face.

[germiyahu]

So much for "if you're at a rally with a Nazi and the Nazi isn't immediately kicked out you're at a Nazi rally!" 😁

I do not care how "noble" one's intentions are, collaboration with the Nazi regime was collaboration with the Nazi regime. Does that even need to be explained? And you trying to downplay this as "they handed over 8 Jews and that was inexcusable!" is something I see right through. You're trying to brag that out of 5,000 Jews only 8 were handed over.

Funny that any attempt by Israelis to say "Well what we were supposed to do?" wrt to Hamas/Iran or "The Palestinian deaths are not as big as you're saying but they're still tragic" are completely brushed off as genocidal propaganda and apologia. Yet here you are trying to uwuify Finland's alliance with Nazi Germany. What were they supposed to do? Oh now that's a credible defense I see.

You want to know my point? Pettiness.

I get to be petty against a dumbass who thinks private Israeli firms speculating about future beachfront property is equivalent to the Israeli government planning a genocide. To even imply those are one in the same is a form of antisemitic conspiratorial thinking. I get to be petty against a European whose people helped the Nazis who's acting like they're standing on a moral high ground, who's too stupid to admit to basic facts and can only respond with nonsense like they did that does nothing to disprove that this "genocide" is still leaving 98% of Gazans alive as of this moment (and that's at the largely now criticized Gaza Health Ministry numbers).

I have never once in my life thought that Finland or the Baltic states et al. deserved to be subjugated by the Russians/Soviets. I do understand that these buffer states between two genocidal empires had to pick their poison. But that doesn't change the facts. You should recognize that line of thinking considering, again, you employ it against Israel. But I know that European states are inherently legitimate to you because they're completely natural. They sprung out of the primordial ether fully formed and there has been not a trace of ethnic cleansing, assimilation, war, genocide, territorial disputes, and colonialism, to get Europe's borders where they are now, no not one!

Finland along with Sweden and Norway have violently tried to assimilate Sápmi for hundreds of years. And also, there are traditionally Finnic areas of Russia whose languages and cultures are on the verge of extinction, a lot of them in territory someone such as that Finn might argue Russia/the USSR "stole" from Finland. If you can recognize that history, countries, and peoples are messy and complicated what separates Israel, Israelis, Jews? What separates them from this trend? Where's the grace, the empathy, the whining that nobody's perfect? Where?

But here is my point distilled to its essence: you lose, in every way, the right to call Jews Nazis when your country fucking sided with the Nazis. If you argue with me in bad faith I'm going to argue with you in bad faith right back!

When the war ends (who knows when that will be though) and you know at least 95% of Gazans are still alive and can begin rebuilding their lives (hopefully with Israeli financial compensation), the antisemites who insist a genocide is occurring will do one of a few things:

Refuse to acknowledge that Israel was interested in a peace plan. They will never give Israel credit for deescalating or withdrawing. They will most likely attribute any (semi) permanent ceasefire and hostage deal to Joe Byron "forcing" Netanyahu to comply. I don't think this is too likely as I can't really see them switching up on Biden and suddenly thinking he's a good leader or a morally driven person. So this group might delusionally believe that Egypt or Saudi Arabia, maybe Iran/Russia... or laughably, Hamas or the Houthis, were the ones to "force" Israel to back down. And you know what, I'll take it personally. As long as they can see that no genocide occurred, I don't care if they're too petty to admit that Israel never intended to commit one.

Lose interest. It's that simple. When the dust settles and no evidence of genocide is constantly being fabricated and shoved in their lazy incurious faces... they'll move on to something else. Some of them will become lifelong obsessed antizionists and will probably agitate all their circles to continue talking about The Genocide That (almost) Was, but even they will have to go "dormant" about it eventually.

Continue to insist that a genocide is occurring. Whether it's the people who play with semantics and devalue words and change definitions who'll be saying that Israel committed/is committing a "psychological" genocide or something... or the conspiracy theorists who will cite the lack of evidence and news coverage as proof that the Genocide has moved on to a quieter stage... or the people who say "this genocide has been ongoing for 80 years this is just a lull in Isnotreal's ethnic cleansing program to save face and wait for further instructions from their American masters!" I think this will be the largest group. Antisemitism, as a conspiracy theory, is just too fun and too addicting for these people. They don't have the tools to get themselves out of this cult. And it's not Jews' responsibility to help them. Thankfully the other two groups' existing, and of course, all of us normal people, will make this a small minority in the grand scheme of things.