#Fandom discourse

[thenaiads]

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[kinardsboy]

Just so you know, if you see a scene where two grown consenting adult men are making out and going to have sex and your first thought is “how can I make this seem immoral?” Youre a homophobe.

If you see Buck ask to take Tommy home and immediately assume that Tommy took advantage of him because Buck was drinking, youre a homophobe.

That is a genuine right wing tactic to fear monger and make gay men look predatory. And you are actively participating in it in the name of a ship with a straight man.

[fightingalgth8rs]

lol I’ll post more about this fucking trainwreck of a post later on but I wanted to highlight this real quickly. When asked what turned him on, David answered that his wife did, and These people cannot handle that. Ingravinoveritas says this is because he’s sitting in a church, which ?!???? ?!??? He goes on to talk about his role playing a sexy gender fluid queer demon so I don’t think the church is the issue there. She just simply can’t cope with the fact that he didn’t say Michael sheen and that he actually loves his wife.

[sacred-pro-fiction]

"I ship [Char A] and [Char B] too! 😊" and then its drawings of a character who does not act like [Char A] next to a character who does not act like [Char B] and they have a dynamic that does not in any way resemble their on-screen chemistry.

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

Honestly Tumblr posts about fandom discourse are like AITA posts, where the more vague they are about a topic the more you can expect them actual story to swing the other way. Like if you get a super condescending post about how everyone is just children who simply don’t understand how complex and grey real romantic relationships are then you look it up and that’s textbook abuse, but if you get an in depth look at how this character is an irredeemable demon you find out she defied an authority figure to save babies from a fire or forgave someone who tried to reform themselves.

[proship-froggo]

The SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE written by you know what "side" in question.

Of course, this scientific article is not exhaustive, however, in my honest opinion, it's certainly worth a read!

[shyjusticewarrior]

At some point "fanfic can be as good as professional writing" became "fanfic should be as good as professional writing" and that's caused major damage to fandom spaces.

[daniwib]

After watching 8x11 Holy Mother of God I still want this to happen lol.

I want Tommy to come back so we can have Big Messy Gay DRAMA and yes with Eddie included in that.

Give me the classic love triangle trope with Tommy and Eddie BOTH wanting Buck and all the bitchy pettiness they are both capable of.

Give me BUCK being chased and fought over and yes I do mean literally because give me sweaty hot half naked men beating each other up for HIM.

He deserves it.

Come on Tim Minear and or Ryan Murphy give us that bitchy gay drama you’re so good at.

[phantasm-masquerade]

reblog for a bigger sample size if you feel like it

[darling-shrike]

So help me god if I ever seen anyone so much a breathe something about Gaiman’s supposed autism or good omen’s cancellation again I am turning off your internet. This shit i why the first victims who came out only felt like they could go on a fucking radfem TERF podcast of all places. You disgusting ghouls need to keep your whining to the group chats and shut the fuck up. Fandom is progressive this fandom is activism that and it’s about david tenant getting railed more than it is helping real flesh and blood victims of SA fuck all of you

[sundown-racoon]

Now that gravityfalls is trending,, I want to say something that most of you will agree to

NEVER trust ANYONES opinion on the show if they hate Mabel,, the whole point of the series is that Dipper and her are close and should STAY close and that drifting them apart would do no good to the entire universe.

She is not a jerk or a bitch,, she's twelve and a sweetheart and YOU are crazy for hating her

[2000swootie]

maybe its just me but im of the opinion that thinking "oh you draw art i don't like" based entirely on something as mundane as said person's art style and then going "i fucking called it" when some internet cretins dig through that person's side accounts looking for dirt to make shitty callout posts that always lead to harassment over Stupid Bullshit is kind of terrible and does not make you a good person in any sense of the word.

not that this is a common occurrence but i hate it whenever i get inexplicable Strange vibes from someones artstyle because thinking "oh you draw incest fanart don't you" based solely off the way someone draws certain characters makes me feel kinda awful. that said a popular mario artist ive been side-eyeing for like 2 months just got outed as having a twt/bluesky acc where they do exactly that so in this particular instance i can feel comfortable saying god i fucking called it you strange bastard

[frontmansdefender]

shaming and making fun of people for still engaging in fandom activities once they reach a certain age is so embarrassing because why are you giving yourself an expiration date of time you have fun? why are you not-so-indirectly saying you will stop having fun once you reach a certain age? or do you really believe you have to stop engaging in fandom activities and having fun once you turn (x)? do you not think you will, what, live that long and turn that age too? do you think fun will suddenly stop for you and life will all of a sudden lose its meaning once you reach a certain age? how sad to be giving yourself an hourglass and just waiting for your time of having fun to run out.

adults can and should engage in fandom activities if it's what makes them happy.

adults can and should continue doing whatever they like doing as teenagers if it's what makes them happy.

age is just... part of life. it's a part of me and it's a part of you. shaming people for something you will have to go through (unless you don't think you will live that long) is such a loser behavior. indirectly saying you will stop having fun once you reach a certain age isn't the flex you think it is. it doesn't make you look "cool and edgy", it makes you look miserable.

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

"guys I do not condone any of this in real life" "this is fiction" "consent is key. this is only fiction" "murder is bad irl" — I wish fanfic authors didn't feel like they had to clarify this in author's notes or else they might be accused of being abusers or worse (I admit that such disclaimers are also something I personally use for my own stuff because I feel like I had to make it clear). like... people used to not care if an author wrote dead dove fics because people used to understand that ao3 fics are not a reflection of someone's in real life views or morality in any way. people used to understand that fanfics mean what they mean; fan fiction. none of it is real. maybe it's purity culture that normalizes witch hunt and censorship in the past couple years, and therefore authors feel like they have to clarify that just because they write about violence or noncon stuff doesn't mean they're murderers or sex offenders in real life. and I think it sucks that these things (purity and cancel culture?) have made authors feel like they have to apologize for the art they created instead of being proud of their hard work and all the dedication they put into creating these art. artists should not have to feel like they have to apologize for creating art that isn't all rainbow and sunshine. artists should not have to be made to feel ashamed of their own art if it's not all rainbow and sunshine.

I don’t agree with the “you can write noncon and dark fics as long as you make sure your readers get the message that these things are bad” or “you can write noncon and dark fics if it’s your way of coping with your trauma” take either. because writers do not owe you anything. the message writers want to send to their readers — whatever that message may be, if there’s any message or moral of the story for readers to take from the stories at all — is none of your business. why writers write what they write is none of your business. remember “don’t like don’t read”. no one forces you to read anything you don’t like. dark and noncon fics are a form of creative writing and creative writing is a form of art. you can’t pressure artists into creating art that “fit your moral compass” nor can you apply your own moral compass to artists to determine if they can create dark art or not, if their reasoning behind creating dark art passes your moral compass. like… what artists create and why artists create are none of your business. and you don’t get to shame artists for creating art that you hate / art that disgusts you. what you can do is ignore the art because it clearly was not made for you and that’s okay. what isn’t okay is you harassing artists because you don’t like the things they created.

writers, embrace and be proud of your works. as long as all the trigger warnings are tagged properly, you have nothing to apologize for.

[johnny-depp-is-loved]

Reblog if you are employed / have a full time job and are a fanfic writer who still actively writes and posts new chapters / new works.

My friend says you can’t be an adult, have a full time job and be a fanfic writer at the same time, because you’ll have to sacrifice your writing, fandom activities, for your career. And I just… don’t think that’s the case? At all? Unless I’m missing something? Unless I’m doing it wrong by being employed and still writing fanfics?