#Chryseis

[sarafangirlart]

The only reason we think that slavery was considered “okay” back then is bc stories back then were mostly written by wealthy upper class men, who were one of the few ppl who were literate at the time. If slaves were able to read and write back then we’d get a very different perspective.

Just look at how enslaved women are portrayed in the Iliad, mourning and loving their captors and abusers, when anyone in that situation would feel relieved, even celebrate if it didn’t mean being given to new owners.

[dagondelrio]

Second poll for my book. I want to get a couple of points of views of multiple women on each side of the conflict.

[kittzuxp]

Oh In all the old stories by Habur on Ao3 how i love you..

How you have healed my soul after tsoa…

How you are longer than tsoa itself… how you were written 3 years ago …

How you do not bear any warnings or tags of spoil.. the emotion of which is double due to the unknowingness…

How you refer to Hellas by her true name.. Hellas, hellene, hellenic…

[clouds-of-wings]

This band uses exclusively Latin lyrics. The first album will come out later this week.

Based on the 1st Book of the Illiad by Homer, PHEBEVS FVROR tells the story of the rescue of the Trojan girl Chryseis from the Greek King Agamemnon who had abducted her. Her father Chryses, the Trojan High Priest of Apollo was insulted by Agamemnon when he had come to ransom her, and he prays to Apollo for help. Apollo, enraged at the offense to his priest and abduction of his daughter punishes the Greeks, and assists Chryses in her rescue.

[thewinedarksea]

f/f myth: briseis & chryseis 

requested by @inneskeeper

[lions-and-men-musical]

Sorry for massacring your Cressida design 😭 I tried. We love our spy lass :)

this is so cool! I love the way you do the glowy bits

[kingbryancroidragon]

I really have to question having Achilles be Agamemnon's lieutenant in this adaptation. I've read that Achilles was fifteen at the start of the war, why the sideways ass would you make someone that young that you didn't meet until the beginning of the war your lieutenant rather than someone who has served you for many years?

[gigidisi]

[athamad]

Can't believe people don't ship Chryseis and Agamemnon

[koruga]

More art from the Big Wheel Of Characters! I speed-read Sophocles's Electra for that last pic, since I don't have a copy of the Oresteia.

[sarafangirlart]

what's your take on the "if it's not explicit, it didn't happen" or "well, the male character said he likes her" kind of interpretation when it comes to the rape of women taken as war prizes? lately i have seen the argument that agamemnon cannot have raped chryseis and cassandra because the text does not make this explicit and he praises both of them. i saw the same kind of argument with briseis and achilles using as an argument what he said in book ix about loving her the way menelaus and agamemnon love their wives

The thing is, slavery was viewed differently back in the day, ppl knew it sucked being a slave but they also viewed it as a normal natural part of life, ppl couldn’t comprehend a world without slavery even in Aristophanes’s The Birds the utopian Cloud cuckoo land still had slaves. The thing is you’ll see some instances of slaves being treated well by the “good guys” and treated badly by the “bad guys” (if you can even call them that but an example of a slave being treated badly by an antagonist is Dirce and Antiope).

Agamemnon and Achilles treating the women they keep as slaves “nicely” doesn’t mean that these women weren’t still very much slaves, or that they weren’t kidnapped or their families weren’t murdered, or even that they weren’t raped, sure you can water it down in a retelling (lord knows these women need a break and that times have changed and ppl nowadays won’t react positively to protagonists who own ppl) but these men still very much don’t really love these women especially with how Achilles nearly ditches Briseis.

That’s not even to mention how Agamemnon flat out refused to return Chryseis to her father even tho if he really cared about her he would, even Hades let Persephone go.

[bauliya]

Hiya! I just wanted to pop by, as I have just finished reading my demons, forgive me (for the second time), and I had to tell you how gorgeous it is. Your characterizations of Roy and Riza (I particularly love your Riza!) are perfect and your writing style is beautiful. Thank you for sharing it!

thenk you so much I'm v proud of it

[dandelionandkrindle]

Your Warcraft gifsets are always so gorgeous, thank you for sharing! I hope you're enjoying Dragonflight! ✨

thank you! it's so nice to hear that you like them. i'm enjoying dragonflight even more than i expected to. wow is really starting to feel like wow again.

[hydropyro]

Apollo might have a good rapport toward Odysseus because he’s the one who returned Chryseis on Agamemnon’s behalf and offered a large hacatomb alongside Apollo’s priest and Chryseis.

He also has an antagonistic, but brotherly relationship with Hermes — who favors Odysseus.

I know its obvious, but I love how Apollo and Hephaestus literally seemed like they were pulled out of nowhere and handed a binder of everything Odysseus did up to that point and had to come up with a reason to hate him on the spot.

At least Hephaestus sounded like he gave a bit of effort, skimmed the info and provided a fair argument with what he had.

Apollo was like the kid who started working on his homework while the teacher's collecting papers. Like "Huh? Wha? Odysseus? Oh uh" *flips files to a random page* "Pfpfpfprllflfrrr i dunno, he did something to some sirens and uhhh, they sing and i like singing sooooo...yea not cool"

Athena: But they tried to kill hi-

Apollo, already turning away and pressing the golden button: Yeyeyeyeyeyeaa he's aight he's aight release him or whatever can i go now-

[lions-and-men-musical]

WIP wednesday! Troilus & Cressida

[streets-in-paradise]

Currently watching Fury of Achilles (1962)

Some random woman just poured some sleeping shit into Agamemnon's wine to stop him from touching Chryseis and is now tucking him into bed like a child.

He got called a poor little boy.

Big brain idea, this is amazing 🤣🤣