#Agamemnon

[francisofgotham1]

Well, he WAS the one that orchestrated the alliance to defend Helen and Menelaus' marriage.

Meaning, he KINDA caused the whole thing, in a very indirect way.

Agamemnon, going over Odysseus 's resume: Okay, so right here, it states that you're creative. Odysseus: Yes Agamemnon: Okay... may I know what you create? Odysseus: Problems.

[o1iveangel]

Agamemnon, king of Mycenae as ‘The Hanged Man’ tarot card

meaning:

ultimate surrender, uncertainty, contemplation, sacrifice

reverse:

hesitation, egoism, resistance to circumstance

plain line work under the cut

[xfilesinamajor]

AGAMEMNON: Hey bro, everything okay? You look like someone pissed in your cheerios.

MENELAUS: No, it's fucking not okay! Helen just ran off with some little man-whore from Troy! She can't do that to me! He can't do that to me! Who do they think they are? I'm a fucking king of Sparta! I'll rip his head off! I'll kill him! I'll kill his whole family!

AGAMEMNON: Whoa, whoa, take a chill pill! Yeah, that fucking sucks. Total bullshit, I hear you. I'd be mad, too. But dude...Troy? That's all the way across the ocean. It's not exactly a day trip.

MENELAUS: I don't care! He deserves to die for taking what is mine!

AGAMEMNON: And say you make the trip, then what? No one's going to let you in if you stand there at the gates screaming about ripping off heads.

MENELAUS: He took my wife! The most beautiful woman in the world!

AGAMEMNON: I know, I know, Helen's crazy hot. But there are lots of gorgeous women in Greece, and you're Menelaus of Fucking Sparta, bro. You've got girls falling all over themselves for you. Take your pick. Shit, take two or three!

MENELAUS: To wife?

AGAMEMNON: To bed, dude! Your wife ran off on you with little pissant? Her loss! This is your chance to go wild! Forget about fucking Helen.

MENELAUS: ...are you drunk?

AGAMEMNON: Oh, totally, for sure. It's this new stuff from Crete, you gotta try it.

MENELAUS: You're not even taking this seriously!

AGAMEMNON: I'm just saying. Would you rather spend the next couple years sailing and fighting and pitching some giant hissy fit, or would you rather stay here and have some fun?

MENELAUS: ....pass me the wine.

And they all lived happily ever after--Menelaus, Agamemnon, Helen, Paris, Achilles, Patroclus, Hector, Andromache, Astyanax, Odysseus, Penelope, Telemachus, Diomedes, Nestor, Ajax, Teucer, Neo, Cassandra, Iphigenia, Eurylochus, Ctimene, Anticlea, Polites, all the citizens of Troy, Odysseus' whole crew, the sirens, all Penelope's would-be suitors, Helios' cow, Polyphemus and his sheep, EVERYONE.

/FIN

[emmikay]

Odysseus: I bet you're wondering why I called you in today.

Odysseus: It's because we need to have a discussion about how some people in this room aren't getting along with other people in this room

Achilles: Why are you being so vague when Agamemnon and I are the only ones here.

[holymotherofwmps-the-reblogging]

I would have envisioned the color scheme inverted🤔 red Achaeans and blue Trojans (or better, some ochre brown, as Trojan are soldiers, keeping their home safe, while the Achaeans are heroes, being extra).

Also I miss The Tube armor for Hector.

Sounds like I'm complaining but actually I love this a lot and I will hold it dear (I don't know why everyone has such great hair but YES).

My Iliad designs :)

[katerinaaqu]

Okay an Agamemnon-friendly post so you are warned! The post is inspired by another made by @hermesmoly

As you know the sources that absolutely HATE Agamemnon speak among others on traditions rescued or invented by post-homeric sources that Agamemnon killed the husband and children of Clytemnestra to have her as a wife. Some of it I memorize it to my mini-analysis here:

And of course Tyndareus would have absolutely no clue who killed them lol 😂 like "oh what do you know! They are dead. Hey you! You are tall and handsome have my daughter for wife!" And then Menelaus with Tyndareus and the Spartan army helps Agamemnon to take Mycenae back from Aegisthus.

Wait, Aegisthus who? Yup we know Aegisthus who was their cousin and was the reason they got exiled in the first place. His coup was reversed and then Agamemnon established himself back to authority and dedicated himself to expanding Mycenaean influence and area till he made it the most powerful kingdom in Greece. But Aegisthus came back; years later he became Clytemnestra's lover and the two of them conspired the murder of Agamemnon and after they succeeded they ruled for years till Orestes took his revenge.

Aegisthus is my proof not to support the idea that Agamemnon slaughtered Clytemnestra's family to get to marry her. Even if one can say he was desperate to get back to power, even if someone says he lost it for some reason and wanted to get revenge quickly, even if we say that no one ever knew (and in Eurypedes it is not even the case! Apparently every interested party knew haha) I don't think it is plausible to say he conspired for the murder of the family of Clytemnestra. He did many things and as I mention to the analysis he doesn't seem meant to be a pleasant character but no I am not convinced it is plausible he conspired or executed the murder of Clytemnestra's family.

The dude didn't even plan the assassination of Aegisthus who was the reason to exile him!

Food for thought

[simoondraws]

"The horse and the infant"

[wolfythewitch]

i'm not really sure what to caption this

[neteyammeowmeow]

ARCANE STUDIO FORTICHE MAKING AN ILIAD/ODYSSEY HIGHSCHOOL COMING OF AGE MOVIE EVERYBODY MOVEEEE EVERYBODY MOOOOVEEEEE GET OUT OF THE WAY

[duckysprouts]

“fair enough”

by the way, i’m doing the math and they are like in their mid 20s when odysseus framed palamedes, lmao. and you think your workplace hostility is bad?

anyway, love ody but he can be such a dick

[ilions-end]

i love the part of sophocles' ajax where odysseus very carefully, very diplomatically debates agamemnon, trying to convince him that ajax deserves a proper burial

some of my favourite lines:

AGAMEMNON: Odysseus, are you for me or are you against me, and for this man? ODYSSEUS: I hated him when it was honourable to hate him.

!!

ODYSSEUS: He was my enemy, but he was also noble. AGAMEMNON: And you have respect for an enemy's corpse? ODYSSEUS: I am moved by admiration for his greatness, rather than by hatred for his smallness. AGAMEMNON: He was a man of many turns. ODYSSEUS: Many of our friends later become enemies. AGAMEMNON: But do you wish to praise these so-called friends? ODYSSEUS: I do not see friends and enemies as mutually exclusive.

and the finishing blow:

AGAMEMNON: I see now that every man works for himself. ODYSSEUS: Who else should a man work for?

[incorrecthomer]

[at Achilles's funeral] Agamemnon: *places his hand on the pyre and sobs* Agamemnon: How could you do this to me? We are so understaffed.

[kyleesarthell]

Iphigenia...

[copycatvagabond]

promise I will stop posting about the Oresteia soon but here is Cassandra

[literallyjusttoa]

RIP Odysseus you would have loved long distance calls.

RIP Diomedes you would have loved Call of Duty voice chats.

RIP Patroclus you would have loved winning every high school popularity contest.

RIP Achilles you would have loved Alpha male TikToks.

RIP Agamemnon you would have loved being an asshole CEO.

RIP Nestor you would have loved toddler leashes.

RIP Cassandra you would have loved being able to sue people for the damages they caused you.

RIP Hector you would have loved the Kentucky Derby.

RIP Paris you would have loved doxxing people anonymously.

RIP Helen you would have loved women getting to have rights.

RIP Troy you would have loved fire extinguishers.

[romarisea]

Oresteia: Agamemnon by Aiskhylos, tr. by Anne Carson [ID in alt text]