#diomede

[sarafangirlart]

The only reason we think that slavery was considered “okay” back then is bc stories back then were mostly written by wealthy upper class men, who were one of the few ppl who were literate at the time. If slaves were able to read and write back then we’d get a very different perspective.

Just look at how enslaved women are portrayed in the Iliad, mourning and loving their captors and abusers, when anyone in that situation would feel relieved, even celebrate if it didn’t mean being given to new owners.

[gotstabbedbyapen]

Do I like this character because they are themselves or do I like them because they're related to Hyacinthus?

No, really. I've been asking myself this question these days because all of my "favorite Greek mythology characters" list consisted of people related to Hyacinthus in way or another. Clio the Muse his mother, Amyclas and Diomede his mortal parents, his many siblings, Helen and Menelaus because Helen is a descendant of Hyacinthus. Apollo and Polyboea are better because I can imagine them separately from Hyacinthus.

I'm kinda feeling guilty because these characters deserved love as their own people, not because they're related to my Favorite GuyTM :'<

[dagondelrio]

Before anyone asks Helen and Thetis aren't an option because I have other plans for them.

My goal is to explore multiple points of views within the book to show. I'm not sure how many I will end up choosing. I'm having a hard time deciding so I thought I would open up the decision to you guys.

The list for Trojan women or Trojan allies will be posted later.

[coarsely]

MEET THE CAST OF ANTI-CHRONICLES: Diomede, once-leader, pariah of the Vagor.

art by duke beardsley

Taglist for Anti-Chronicles (ask to be + / -); @digital-chance, @solipseismic, @sengawolf

[flaviafulvia]

Weird thought: after the failed embassy in book 9 of the Iliad, Achilles and Patroclus lay down next to each other and have sex with two different women, Diomede and Iphis respectively. The narrator mentions that Iphis was given to Patroclus by Achilles.

Seems weird, even in the context of Homer whose heroes did not have the same idea of privacy as we do. Aside from being pretty gay, I keep wondering if it was some kind of power play by Achilles? Patroclus is in a tent Achilles lets him sleep in, with a woman given to him by Achilles, and whatever status he has at Phthia and at Troy was given to him by Achilles (although Patroclus is so well-liked him being banished might get pushback and he could probably find somewhere else to go-he’s a good fighter and Homer notes his closest friends were other commanders). This is probably the moment in time where Patroclus is closest to being upset with Achilles and maybe Achilles senses he is hurting for his fellow Greeks in a way he is not.

[gwensparlour]

That scene in Book IX where Patrochilles go to sleep with Diomede and Iphis

Lights have been applied absolutely at random

If you see missing limbs, no you don't

[stigmatam4rtyr]

Diomede Devoured by his Horses (1865, oil on canvas) | Gustave Moreau

[nikoisme]

I had to

[simoondraws]

Are they flirting or ...what are they even doing?🤨

[backpackingspace]

okay so post epic odyssey where odysseus and Penelope have surfaced from their room finally and he and diomedes are catching up I'm imagining the conversation going something like this

Odysseus: so then I gave up being merciful and became the monster.

Diomedes:....you tried being merciful?

Odysseus: Yes?

Diomedes: you did? You tried being a good merciful person? You?

Odysseus: Yah okay fuck off it was polties dying wish. I had to try.

Diomedes:.....90% of the war crimes in the Trojan war were suggested, planned out, and carried out by you. We literally stoned to death the guy you had a personal grudge against. We framed him for treason and stoned him to death. 70% of why Athena liked you was because she thought she knew all the ways to kill someone and then you'd suggest something insane and I'd see her taking notes. You literally gave Ajex a psyoctic break just being yourself.

Odysseus: shut up

Diomedes: I'm not wrong. Did you tell Penelope about your attempt to be a good person?

Odysseus: What? Of course I did. I told her everything.

Diomedes: did she laugh?

Odysseus:...shut up that's not the point

Diomedes: she did didn't she!!!

Odysseus: ANYWAY eurylochus wasn't appreciative of my return to monsterhood and he started causing problems so I

Diomedes: killed him? Yah saw that coming. No shit. I'm so shocked.

[greeknerdsstuff]

⚠️It does not justify their actions in a culture and period full of war and suffering⚠️

[sarafangirlart]

Been day dreaming about a story post Trojan war and accidentally thought up of Briseis x Diomede doomed Yuri.

[orpheus-has-lyreizz]

rare instance where 1+1+1 = 1

[alexendree]

Poseidon was waiting for his moment

[coarsely]

Build a pokemon team for your ocs

Jumping on from @thanataes, because I thought this was such a fun idea! I may have gotten a little carried away, but I really like pokemon :) it's really fun to look at what suits their aesthetic, their fighting style, their personality, etc, while trying to create a balanced and workable team.

Ucalegon, Nod's most beloved warrior.

Ucalegon is someone fairly concerned with aesthetics, but also as a fighter for Nod has to have a fairly balanced team. She often uses eletricity to taze and shock people, but also lives in a fairly urbanised area, hence the eletric and steel types. There is a certain level of mystique to her, which Absol represents, while also being considered wild and uncivilised by the Bronze Eden populace, which Lycanroc shows. Tauros acts as a good balance for the rest of the team's speciality, while also showing how full-on she can sometimes be.

Hendrix, leader of the Undark.

Hendrix's team are all visually related to water creatures, although only two are actual water types. While he is heavily involved in the pirate aesthetic, he is not actually one, so I thought it would be fun to show that by only visually looking like sea creatures, while not being one. I chose two poison types, because he is mildly radioactive. Most ground attacks are physical, which suits his physical and aggressive nature, hence my choosing of those. Barbaracle was chosen because Hendrix does have barnacles in different places on his body, so it just makes sense. Garchomp, I can't really explain, it just feels right to have at least on dragon type on there. There's a certain status symbol thing with dragon types, and he is a leader of sorts, so it fits in!

Vítor Cadogan, former Gladiator of Golden Glimpse.

Vítor was quite fun to do. Aside from Mimikyu, I tried not to choose too many recent pokemon, to show he's a little older than maybe you'd first expect. Once being a superhero for Golden Glimpse, I tried to make his team more varied, to have more options in a fight. Lucario evolves with high friendship, so it's nice to have that sort of implication that Vítor treats his pokemon very well. Jolteon is honestly mostly chosen because Golden Glimpse is visually very yellow, and it's cute to imagine one curling up in his lap. Porygon2 is because it requires a lot of trading to evolve, and Vítor is someone very well connected. His protective instincts are symbolised via Aegislash, and his secretive nature while also being very socialble feel well represented by Mimikyu.

Dr Edgar Edwards, former heavyweight champion of Bronze Eden.

As his title suggests, Ed was once a highly successful boxer in Bronze Eden, winning the heavyweight championship 3 times in his career. This is why Hariyama and Machamp are there! Steelix and Weezing I chose due to his rags to riches story, which both represent to me with the sleek steel form and the pollution tophats. Houndoom feels like they fit in very well as a guard dog, which in a way Ed is one himself. Venusaur just felt right to add there. Very large, poisonous, and Ed is a war criminal who is not far off 8 feet tall, so it just feels good!

Diomede, exiled leader of the Vagor.

Diomede is a horse girl, so Mudsdale was an obvious choice. His actual steed though is an elk, which Sawsbuck sort of emulates, so I went with them too. Crobat was fun to add because of the whole "cannot evolve without high friendship", while also being scary-looking, which hints at how much he loved his people when he was part of them, but doesn't necessarily show it. Golurk, being inspired by a golem, also shows that latent protective instinct he had. Being a ghost type also feels like it shows those are just memories now, which i like. Bisharp was chosen as Diomede is a weaponsmith like most Vagor, and Bisharp looks like it would help out! Bouffalant works well as being a Vagor is also about working in tandem with the wilderness and with the untameable megafauna that roam Nod, which Bouffalant is clearly inspired by.

Saccade, Punisher of Neo-Babylon

For Saccade, it was important almost every pokemon felt recognisable as an animal. Saccade is quite a down-to-earth, no nonsense person, so these choices sort of infer that with their recognisable designs. Two are normal type, further cementing that she isn't someone majorly into the flashy looks of other pokemon. The exception to this is Noivern, who I'd imagine she rarely deploys as a sort of "suprise tool that will help us later". Mabosstiff, some of you might have noticed, is a shiny! I imagine Mabosstiff as a gift from her spouse when they were still alive, who Saccade rarely brings out in a fight either, for fear of losing them. Durant was chosen frankly just because I really like durant! Gallade, because in between these two pokemon she's hesitant to bring out, I think she needs a more aggressive partner to compensate. This team was also very fun to put together!

This was so fun to do! I'm gonna tag @megarywrites, @solipseismic, @revenantlore, @noblebs, @dyrewrites and @cream-and-tea, and of course, absolutely anyone else who is as taken with this concept as I was! Here is a link to the team builder, enjoy yourselves!

[ilions-end]

everyone shhh for a second and look at this ink doodle of diomedes and glaucus hugging by 18th century painter antoine-jean gros