#Chaomix

[tomboymikayla]

The worst fucking time to be a Sonic Fan:

[biolizardboils]

"If you managed to avoid this era of Sonic, consider yourself lucky. Because I wouldn't even wish this on my worst enemy to have their favorite franchise in that kind of state."

[lividowly]

Buttercup in the Sonic Adventure 1 Artstyle

Drawn Mid January 2024

(Special thanks to Chaomix for making an SA1 art style tutorial)

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[cold-fire-yo]

@chase-omega

Do you agree?

[it-came-from-mount-ebott]

Chaomixcore post.

[sonicfangamebot]

'Burgerman Adventure 2' (2021) by @chaomix (SA2 Mod) https://gamebanana.com/mods/329453

[parappaadventure2q-a]

inspired by that one chaomix thumbnail

[noeggets]

trying to incorporate every headcanon i have for Sonic that this isn't even Sonic anymore almost

i've been calling this "my Sonic" cause every since i deep dived into the part of the lore i never knew about i've had so many ideas about Sonic's up bringing the "Sister Sonic" thing is what drove the nail through my coffin, my sonic is not a bounty hunter tho

also the other Sonic who is Manic and Sonia's older brother is my friend's sonic i guess you could say, his name is Savage he changed his name to that, that's why i said "was"

ALSO if you don't believe me fighters had a 8th chaos emerald it was orange

another thing is i watched this really good video about chaos emeralds you should watch it too, i agree on there being more then one set of chaos emeralds just watch all of Chaomix's videos i like them they are funny

ALSO again, if you don't know what "Sister Sonic" is look it up it's interesting at least i think it's interesting

[freshcreationgarden]

This sounds awesome they have a Kickstarter right now

A new #SonicTheHedgehog convention is being planned in Dallas, TX for November 2023, and will host a number of former #Sonic voice actors as special guests! Check out the Sonic Expo and support the event's crowdfunding campaign here! #SonicNews

[beevean]

Honestly what annoys me more about the fandom's reaction to Chaomix is that the main talking points haven't changed. Only the context around them did. It's still "2010 sonic bad" and "sega bad" except now it comes with an addendum of "they bad because they tried to appeal to those reviewers and journos". Which sucks because it would be a legit point on it's own but it's being used as a smokescreen for some to still hate on the games while presenting it like they are defending them.

I will bet everything I have that in a decade the "Meta Era" will gain new appreciation exactly the same way as the "Dark Age".

The Dark Age used to be despised for multiple reasons. It had some objectively flawed games back to back, for sure, but part of the backlash was also due to the Classic fans being the majority of the fandom, being very unhappy with the direction of the franchise. A lot of nowadays beloved Sonic games used to be laughingstocks.

Sonic Heroes? A janky repetitive mess that did not follow up to the masterpiece that was SA2 because it was too kiddy, and we're so tired of Sonic's Shitty Friends.

Shadow the Hedgehog? Not only it was OW THE EDGE, but it was legitimately seen as an affront to everything Sonic stood for, shilling a creator's pet that had long overstayed its welcome.

Sonic '06? One of the worst games of all time. Nearly killed the franchise, and maybe it should have. Buggy and rushed in a way that was unacceptable for an anniversary game and the next gen game. A shitty ass story full of holes with damsels in distress that make out with animal corpses.

Sonic Unleashed? The Werehog was fucking stupid and once again spitting on everything Sonic stood for, and we're so tired of cinematic stories! (yes the complaint that the intro was too long was a real complaint)

Sonic and the Black Knight? Sonic with a sword was fucking stupid. No one cared about the story.

The beginning of the Meta Era was exactly what fans wanted back then. Colors was seen as Sonic's comeback for things like not having an intro cutscene, having a "saturday morning cartoon" story with only Sonic and Tails and none of the Shitty Friends, having Eggman as the final boss instead of yet another monster, and sticking only with the "good" parts of Unleashed. Read its Funny page on TvTropes, and you'll find many of the jokes that nowadays are used as proof that Pontaff were hacks and Flynn was so real for making fun of them both in IDW and in Frontiers. It was seen as Sonic's glorious return because finally, at long last, Sonic was going back to his Classic roots.

But now? Now those same Classic fans grew older and even more disillusioned with the franchise, so they left, and they were replaced by the Adventure fans, now old enough to be heard. Now Heroes is a cute game, with much better level design than shitty games like Forces. ShTH is secretly deeper than people gave it credit for, and Shadow is cool again, and at least characters do stuff, unlike in Forces. Sonic '06 was full of ambition, unlike Forces where they didn't even try. Sonic Unleashed can pretty much compete with SA2 as a masterpiece. SatBK has a wonderful story that truly gets Sonic, unlike Forces where everyone is stupid and lame.

See a pattern?

Hell, even things like Eggman as a final boss is getting backlash now. I've seen people praising Frontiers' The End because of this. Eggman as the final villain got stale again. These are the Adventure fans who grew up with Eggman getting swatted away or teaming up with Sonic, and liking it.

(I'm an Adventure fan too, but funnily enough, Colors was the first game where I ever liked Eggman precisely for keeping him as the main threat lol)

It's a cycle. The 2010s were the era of "the 2000s sucked, we want to go back to the '90s when Sonic used to be good". The 2020s will be, and already are, the era of "the 2010s sucked, we want to go back to the 2000s when Sonic used to be good". I am eagerly waiting for the videos named "Sonic Forces was not that bad, you guys were just mean". It will come. Just like '06 used to be reviled and mocked to death and now it has gained respect, the same will happen to Forces. Just like Forces is now seen as "unserious" and apologetic, the same will happen with Frontiers and its "I'm sorry we sucked, we'll do better next time" tone. Just like Pontaff were seen as a breath of fresh air and now they are seen as the people who ruined Sonic, the same will happen to Flynn. You'll see.

[cringelordofchaos]

YouTubers / YouTube channels I watch

(or that I used to watch but will lost anyway cuz of nostalgia)

Adrenaline Dubs

AlanaLintao

albert

Albert Clips

AlbertsStuff Archive

Alex Bale

Alex1Leg

al jokes

AnthonyPadilla

Apollo and Frens

Behind The Meme

bill wurtz

bo en

boyxanimation

BriannaPlayz

[Brii Studios UwU]

BumbleKast Highlights - Unofficial

Call Me Kevin

CaseOh

Chao Abuser

chaomix

Charriii5

CheapPickle

Cheesy Hfj

CheezyChez

Chipflake

Cinema Therapy

ColeyDoesThings

cooper2723

Corporate Tom

Courtney (ProjectSNT)

Cube

Cypopps

Danny Gonzalez

DissociaDID

darkvictory

Dean Schneider

DJ Cook

DoshVO

Dutchess Celestia

Elise Ecklund

Emirichu

Emzii

Etymology Nerd

ExJW Panda Tower

Explore Lucid Dreaming

ExtraRosy

Ezekiel

Faline San

Flamingo

Flamingo Reuploads

Flamingo Shorts

foster on the spectrum

Frank James

Frank Wattkinson

Fundy

Gayer Things

GLITCH

Haminations

How To ADHD

Hxnnah

I can't sleep

Ice Cream Sandwich

illymation

InfinityXFilms

iTomFoolery

JackStauber

JaidenAnimations

javadoodles

Jay & Sharon

Jehtt

Jelly Jess

Jenstine

Kaitlyn Flames

Katherine Lynn-Rose

kevin james thornton

KLR Productions

Kwite

Kwote

Laddi

Lady Cuddles Meow

LaurenZside

LavenderTowne

LesbianMindflayer

Let Me Explain Studios

Lewis Hancox

liam miller

LilyTrescot MSP

luisgamercool23

Lumity Fan

Matt Rose

MayTree

MVPerry

Nerdy Arty

norific

Oh my god we killed kenny we're bastards

ParachutingKitten

PeetahBread

PetPyves

Pixi-Gags

PrestonPlayz

Prince Ea

PuhlaSteve

Queer Chameleon

Quirkology

Respectable Rick

Riri Bichri

RosyClozy

Sadaxe

Sarcastic Chorus

scribblejuice

Silly Author 🤪

SimplyTasha

skulltrot

SnapCube

SomeThingElseYT

Sonic David

Sonic the Hedgehog

SonnaDrawzStuffYT

Spilling The Milk

storybooth

Tabbes

Tails is disappointed in your recent decisions

Tales of an Enigma

TBNRFrags

Terrible Writing Advice

T4thDoH

TheAMaazing

The Film Theorists

The Food Theorists

The Game Theorists

The Land Of Boggs

TheOdd1sOut

TheOdd2sOut

ThePJShow

Therian Territory

TimTom

Toni Baloni

Tony Turner

Trevor Brighton

Tweek & Craig Are Gay

Tyler Vitelli

Vailskibum

Victaton

Vsauce

Willcraft

Willyandgaming

Wowza Dawg

XayXay

XUANNY

Your Favorite Martian

0iqrobloxian

[tomboymikayla]

THANK YOU!

[ankle-beez]

Huh. Seeing bigoted tourists complain about rouge's boobs and general inclusive stuff in sonadow Gens is so bizarre. Unwelcome too ofc but so bizarre. Like a solid 80% of the fandom that actually cared for the story were glad that eggman asked sage for her pronouns and that tangle, a character who is highly recognized to be sapphic-coded and is only held back by sega themselves, was referenced in-game. We've built a solid rep as an, admittedly annoying at times but not overall bigoted fandom.

Hell, one of youtube's bigger sonictubers, Chaomix, who was featured in sega's youtube latest video as part of asking how to describe Shadow in one word, had talked about some of the more known lgbt+ ships in Sonic and how Sonic himself has a good driving history for being a possible canon aroace character. I just think it's so damn bizarre and comedic in a way that to choose Sonic the Hedgehog now of all times to try and act all annoying as shit for just cause it had a game that's actually scored highly among gaming sites and the like, even tho we've built a solidly inclusive place.

That's not mentioning how big Sonadow is. Phew. That, that is literally the 2nd in running biggest ship now. No doubt.

it's funny too because for more than a decade sonic was like the punching bag fandom right, like we were getting jumped from every angle due to the rancid decisions being taken in regards to the franchise. but now because the franchise found its groove again and is delivering consistently great content one after the other everyone is more resilient now and we're just kicking bad faith actors to the curb lol

[fantasiac]

just saw Chaomix's CD timeline placement and thought I'd share my crackpot theory

warning, this contains time travel plotlines and so will be confusing

so, Sonic CD can't be placed on an in between of Sonic 1 or Sonic 2 or anything, because Sonic CD *is* Sonic 1

so Sonic 1 still happens, Sonic meets Eggman and foils his plans, Sonic 2 happens, Sonic learns the Spindash and Eggman builds Mecha Sonic MK 1, then Sonic 3&K happens, Eggman makes Mecha MK 2, then after 3&K Eggman creates time travel technology and decides he's going to wipe Sonic from the timeline entirely, he also learns from all his mistakes and finally makes Metal Sonic, who she sends back in time to Sonic 1, which also scatters the Time Stones through time and space locking Future Eggman in the future, but Present Eggman gets sent a message "you're our only hope" style giving him blueprints to Metal so he can repair damages if needed, aswell as other machines like badniks and the prototype Metal Sonics, and the time travel technology, which might have gotten corrupted or something, so present Eggman tried to replicate the time travel technology and failed to set a real time destination, only forwards or backwards in time an undisclosed amount of time

So Eggman from Sonic 1 stops polluting the area in Sonic 1 and moves to Little Planet as orders from his future self (green hill I still Eggman and sonics first meeting, but sonic chases him down to little planet instead of marble zone), and he takes over little planet with ease creating generators and keeping the wildlife in check with holograms of Metal Sonic, Sonic CD Happens on top of Sonic 1 resetting the Classic Timeline, it is implied to be this way I'm the games because alot of the stages are repeats of Sonic 1; Spring Yard Zone is Collision Chaos, Starlight Zone is Stardust Speedway, etc cetera.

now this timeline reset fixes the issue of Sonic 1 having 6 Chaos Emeralds because the new first things to find is the Time Stones, so the events of Sonic 2 and 3&K still take place, but the ones we play are the original versions, there are variants of them that use CD as a Sonic 1, but we don't play them, then Sonic Mania happens, Sonic Mania is built on the Sonic CD timeline, which explains why Metal Sonic is a big villain in it and the Mechas aren't even mentioned, also Generations pulls from the CD timeline because variations of 2 and 3 still happen, and then after that Sonic Superstars and Sonic and the Fallen Star happens (fallen star takes place before supstars)

also Eggman having the blueprints to the mechas lets him reference Mecha MK 1 in superstars without breaking the timeline and he still builds Mecha MK 2 for Sonic 3 as a backup for stealing the master emerald, not wanting to waste Metal Sonic on it as he knows in his heart Mecha will probably be destroyed, this lets Scrapnik Island happen without breaking things (scrapnik is much more important than digital deluxe Mecha Skin in Superstars, i have no idea why I put it first)

I hope this made sense to someone, it probably didn't, it's 3 am and im tired

[fernsnailz]

how do i start learning about sonic lore? like ik theres the games but it seems like there is a lot more lore behind it than just those, and it seems very interesting

i mean if you're just interested in "lore" then i think the best way to learn about stuff is to find sonic fans that do lore deep dives lol. sometimes you can find stuff on youtube, i think chaomix's channel has some good stuff and goes into topics beyond just "sonic game explained." but most of this information just comes from the games themselves, the lore might not be that interesting if you don't know the characters or stories of the games.

but if you're completely new to sonic and are trying to find a way to get into the series in general, then i usually recommend the IDW sonic comics to start with! the first few arcs give a pretty good introduction to most of the core characters, i suggest reading through the metal virus arc at least. the comics aren't perfect, but it's a good start.

[sonic-obscurity-opposition]

underneath the cut is the roster for the now-defunct sonic obscurity opposition. it contains 120 characters, along with a maybe and a probably not list taken directly from my notes when sorting through submissions. it is my hope that anyone who would have been invested in this poll reads them, and perhaps finds some appreciation for them.

PARTICIPANTS:

Saffron Bee (Archie)

Society Max (Fleetway)

Shortfuse the Cybernick (Fleetway)

Blockhead Bill (Fleetway)

Speedy (Tails Adventure)

1999 (Fleetway)

Da Bears (AoStH)

Zonic the Zone Cop (Archie)

Prefect Charyb & Prefect Scylla (Chronicles)

Humpty (AoStH)

Ifyoucan (Underground)

Grimer (Fleetway)

D-Fekt (Boom)

Ari (SatAM)

Hawk (Sonic X)

Johnny (Rush Adventure)

Mello Bee (Archie)

Has Bean (Mean Bean Machine)

Princess Alucion (Sirène)

Eric the Echidna (StH in the Fourth Dimension)

Relic the Pika (Archie)

Captain Oe (Archie)

Demo Duck (Dark Mobius Bean) (Archie)

Melody Prower (Archie)

Teri-Lu (Archie)

Iago the Echidna (Archie)

Brock the Echidna (Archie)

Dr. Quack (Archie)

Bartleby MontClair (Underground)

Pseudo Sonic (Archie)

Amadeus Prower (Archie)

Gae-Na (Archie)

Komi-Ko (Archie)

X Robot (Archie Sonic X)

Meringue the Rabbit (IDW)

Cyrus (Underground)

VerticAL and HorizontAL (Archie)

Mari-Su (Archie)

Wynmacher (Archie)

Rosie Woodchuck (Archie)

Vermin the Rat (Fleetway)

Bog Beasty (Underground)

Chomps (Underground)

Farrell (Underground)

Penelope the Hedgehog (AoStH)

Lucas (AoStH)

Filch (Fleetway)

Harpio (Fleetway)

Leaf (Fleetway)

Mello (Fleetway)

Simpson the Cat (Fleetway)

Old Sonic Clone (Fleetway)

Tufftee (Fleetway)

Lightmare (Fleetway)

Knuckles the Echidna

Cat (SatAM)

Aerial & Athena (Archie)

E-100 Lambda (Archie)

Ichneumon the White Mouse (StH and the Silicon Warriors)

Gaz and Del (Fleetway)

Mom with a Gambling Addiction NPC (Adventure 1)

Lumina Flowlight (Shuffle)

Princess Bee (Archie)

Hershey St. John (Archie)

Echo the Shark (Archie)

Cinos the Anti-Sonic (StH and in Fourth Dimension)

Rob o' the Hedge (Archie)

Juanita the Chameleon (Archie)

Marta the Echidna (Archie)

Liza the Chameleon

Bivalve Clam (Archie)

Duck "Bill" Platypus (Archie)

Griff (SatAM)

Barney the Chameleon (Archie)

Katella (Aosth) - Special request to use this specific image: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/c/c8/Katellaheart.png/revision/latest?cb=20160407210139

King Peter - (StH in Robotnik's Laboratory)

Colonel Percy Granite (Fleetway)

Hobidon (Sonic X)

Rhygenta (Archie)

Molly (Sonic X)

Ron (IDW)

Arctur the Dragonkin (StH and in Fourth Dimension)

Practice Robot (Fleetway)

Ash Mongoose (Archie)

Walt Wallaby (Archie)

Ebony (Fleetway)

Bimmy the Echidna (Archie)

The Narrator (LEGO Commercial)

Emperor Sleetus (Underground)

Luke Periwinkle (Underground)

Bellok (Underground)

Captain Squeegee (Underground)

Duke of Velcronia (Underground)

Mindy LaTour (Underground)

Lucinda (AoStH)

William Le Duck (AoStH)

Baby T (SatAM)

Dove (SatAM)

Nicholas O'Tyme (SatAM/Archie)

Heavy and Bomb (Knuckles' Chaotix)

Nerbs (Archie)

Lah the Ghost (Unleashed - Night of the Werehog)

Akhlut the Orca (Archie)

Karen (Stone's Ex Boss) (Sonic 2 Pre-quill)

Rava the Destroyer (Sonic 2 Pre-quill)

Nestor the Wise (Chronicles)

Radar the Echidna (Archie)

Kanewisher the Echidna (Archie)

Catweazle (Archie)

Snailbot (Sonic 2)

A.D.A.M. (Archie)

Alexis Acorn (Archie)

Megan Acorn (Archie)

Arthur Mongoose (Archie)

Avery the Bear (Archie)

Aypex (Archie)

Bagbar Beeblebrox (Archie)

Barney (Archie)

Bertha Kintobor (Archie)

Friday the Parrot (StH Adventure Gamebook 5: Theme Park Panic)

MAYBE:

Sonic the Human (Sega Hard Girls)

Thunder the Pasha (Archie) - It's not really a character is it?

The Freedom Team (Beta SatAM) - They're a whole team and also unreleased

Mecha Sonic Model No. 29 (Sonic the Fighters) - I think there was a popular youtube video about this character. Maybe Chaomix.

Galaxina (Sonic X) - May be obscure, haven't finished sonic x, but seems like she wouldn't be

Jimmy and Jilly (Fleetway) - two in one and also i'm very tired

Mr. Yuji Naka (ShtH05) - Not a character, only referenced in one voice line.

Evil Duck (SatAM) - Not real

Skull That Says "SEGA" (S3&K EU Ads) - Not really a character? We'll see.

Masado and Miwasco (Up on the Green Hill (Masado and Miwasco version)) - While they have done official work, I can't tell if this song is licensed.

Segata Sanshiro (Sonic R Ad) - Isn't a part of the world, just beats up some kids and holds up a SEGA Saturn

PROBABLY NOT:

Dave the Intern (Boom) - Popular

Tikal the Echidna (Adventure) - Extremely popular and prominent within the source material

Ian Jr. - Popular

Manic the Hedgehog (Underground) - Manic

Elias Acorn (Archie) - I haven't gotten that far in Archie but this guy is literally a king and Sally's brother

Orca - Iconic? Also an animal with no unique characteristics.

The Cow in the Triple Trouble Ad - An animal with no unique characteristics.

Dodon Pa (Team Sonic Racing) - Important Character in TSR

Santa Claus (AoStH) - That's Santa Claus