#CW IS HOMOPHOBIC
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aesthetic-otd · 7 months ago
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Today's aesthetic is dykecore
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nqueso-emergency · 2 months ago
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The use of Bummy really upsets and annoys me so I want led to write down my thoughts and I hope you can share 💕
Is the use of Bummy as a ship name offensive?
Yes, it is correct if you put the BU from Buck and the MMY from Tommy. Yes you get “Bummy”.
So what is the issue? It’s common practice in shipping, fans combine two characters names together, forming a new ship name (portmanteau or smushword). For instance, the ship name for Dean Winchester and Castiel from Supernatural is referred to as Destiel. The 'De' from Dean, and 'tiel' from Castiel.
Well, it’s the use of “bum” as part of the portmanteau and the closeness to the word “bummer” and “bumming”.
Why is that an issue?
Number one because the word “Bummer” is a gay slur word in British English & slang. Number two because this is a gay ship. Number three the majority of people using this ship name dislike the coupling. It’s generally used as part of a wider negative sentiment about the couple. Number four the fact one member of the pairing is a British actor meaning it’s a bit close to home.
One of the common responses to people saying the name being homophobic and offensive is that pro BuckTommy fans have dug up an obscure slur to find issue with the use of the ship name.
Let’s break it all down… we’ll start with the etymology first.
American English and British English as a language has a good few words with very different meanings. It’s understandable that both side would be unaware of subtle language differences. It’s easy to talk about trash vs. rubbish. It’s much harder to talk about words that could be used as offensive or considered a slur. I don’t want to start listing slurs for obvious reasons that fall under this umbrella (there is actually a few) so I’ll try to be concise.
Let’s use the example of “fanny” as word that in UK considered a vulgar word meaning the female genitals but actually means butt in America. A polite way to say fanny in the UK would be “front bum”. Because your ass, or buttocks in the UK is your bum. Aka your gluteal muscles.
So it’s means your bottom. But like most words you can use it in multiple ways and it can have multiple meanings. Bum, bummer, bumming etc. Various meanings depending on the context. A bum can be a homeless people or my backside. If I add an action word “to bum” it’s anal sex. If I said “what a bummer” I might be saying that’s disappointing. Or I might be using it as a slur to describe a gay person. Everything from tone of voice and inflection to your physicality can change the meaning.
Does the fact it’s of British language, history and cultural background mean it doesn’t count?
Is it obscure?
The slur “bummer” in the UK and Ireland is one of a number of terms beginning in the 1980s, and especially in the late 1990s, as an insult amongst young people. While curse words were cracked down someone using it as an insult could mostly fly under the radar. A school yard taunt.
The peak use of the word as a slur was over 20 years ago. Of course if you’re 21 years old that feels completely irrelevant. If you’re a millennial and lived through that peak of popularity then you have entirely different perspective.
In fact, as UK or Irish society has evolved in the last 20 years and become more progressive homophobic language is widely unacceptable in polite society. It’s not that specific slurs have become obsolete but that any slurs or micro aggressions in general have becoming broadly intolerable.
For me, obscure would be a word where no one living would recall it.
Similarly the word “gay” its self which was also used with derision during this time (being stupid, or equivalent to weak.) The pejorative use of the word "gay" was waved away as banter for more than a generation. But even then using such words and slurs as “a joke” had a knock on effect. So for example, college-age men were more likely to repeat the word negatively if their friends said it, while they were less likely to say it if they had lesbian, gay or bisexual peers.
Words such as “queer” or “gay” have been reclaimed by the Queer community since but it isn’t as clear cut as that and often there is a generational issue where younger people — millennials are fine with it. Gen Xers are less comfortable with it. And then older people or boomers, maybe, who find its use problematic.
What is the relevance of bringing in the wider use of homophobic slurs? Well we see fans waving away concerns about the use of Bummy as “not that deep” it’s just their names mashed together. Dismissal of the slang term as obscure and BuckTommy fans scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a reason to be offended. That narrative is repeated whether true or not because their side of the Fandom said it. The main demographic using the term is younger Gen Alpha Gen Z and American. A cohort with no frame of reference. And seemingly uninterested in extending curiosity to learn or to listen.
That all mirrors behaviour we have seen before. Does that mean I think anti BuckTommy fans are homophobic… no actually I don’t think that at all. Because there is nuance. Instead I think that they are okay using an offensive portmanteau because they intensely dislike the ship and that is simply slippery slope.
But is there a counter argument to that? Why jump to that conclusion?
Let’s say they just don’t want to use Tevan as that has Evan as part of the name. Okay, that’s a good reason. But wait? Why not use BuckTommy the most popular ship name? Or Kinley? Or Tuck? Why say Bummy Bones and not BuckTommy Bones? Why despite being told it’s offensive and having the ability to just Google it do they hand wave that away with wilful ignorance.
I do think the ship name of Bummy is used to intentionally have negative connotations. It’s meant to annoy BuckTommy fans. Perhaps it’s just engagement bait.
I've held on to this ask waiting for a good time to post it.
Today is that day.
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colorgoat · 5 months ago
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happy butch appreciation day!! 🫀🩸 here's a piece i made for @belovedzine a while back. sorry for feelings on main
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kyyuis · 2 years ago
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hobie and noir get along not only because they share the same interest of killing nazis but also because noir comes from the 20's-30's, which means a more outdated way of talking, while hobie is a "be proud of being a faggot" kind of person. noir says "why would i have a problem with some pansies?" when someone asks if hes homophobic and hobie's nodding in the background, thinking 'reclaiming slurs from the big guys...i applaud you.'
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beebundt · 1 month ago
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⚠️ wip with blood
ignore the background oh my god. i am ignoring it so hard rn but my ángel is so pretty... holding her up to the camera showing her off like tiktok girlies do with makeup brands
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idiot-mushroom · 7 months ago
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guess what day it is boys
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wrathofrats · 4 months ago
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HAPPY WIP WEDNESDAY TO ALL WHO CELEBRATE (ME)
Warnings for homophobia this is just alpha being homophobic this is your warning that if you don’t like homophobia don’t read this. Ok? Ok anyways I’m sexualizing homophobia I hope we are all excited
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vulto-cor-de-rosa · 1 year ago
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Update on the whole Deram vs Gumball thing, Dream just tweeted this video
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Because yes, this guy saying slurs and just being an asshole while drunk is the true crime here compared to the hole, you know, Grooming allegations that Dream is facing rn
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buttercup-barf · 1 year ago
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You know what? Fuck you. [indulges myself]
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I thought I wouldn't fall for him. I never liked villains. There was, like, one or two exceptions. BUT HE CHANGED SOMETHING IN ME, MAN.
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Same drawing, I just added some shadows, and scribbled in a menacing eye spark for him in the second one.
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If you recognise the name "Valentine", first of all - you are a simp, and second of all - yeah, same. This is pretty much how I envisioned him in the fic, when he's already older, and "showing off". I love men.
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nukacourier · 2 months ago
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Okay so I looked into it and apparently the stupid "the garret twins are incestuous" bullshit theory literally stems from some guy on Reddit being pissy that someone suggested Mick and Ralph might be a gay couple for sharing a bed and brought up the twins using the same bed as a "gotcha" (completely ignoring the fact the twins sleep at separate intervals so they never share the bed together whereas Mick and Ralph don't)
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hollymacycomic · 1 year ago
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Holly & Macy and Everyone Else
Chapter 4: Page 35
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nqueso-emergency · 2 months ago
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https://x.com/beammeupken/status/1850621950147662213?s=46
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Maybe bestie boos could go one day without being homophobic garbage?? Miracles happen.
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Lou's voice sounds the same it always has. We know what you fucks are really trying to say.
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hill-art02 · 5 months ago
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This is definitely 100% ragebait, but i hate these kinds of people who only hate HH/HB because they're homophobic and not because it's poorly written.
People like them are no friend of mine. We criticize the show because we want better queer rep, not because it has queer rep.
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thestrangestthlng · 2 months ago
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Buddies are truly never going to beat the homophobia allegations because what the actual fuck is this shit?
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If you don’t like him, don’t interact with things that he’s in. There are plenty of celebrities that I don’t like, I just keep scrolling. I don’t call them slurs and wish death on them.
That side of the fandom is disgusting.
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toxicanonymity · 5 months ago
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tired-hellowl · 11 months ago
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here' a comprehensive list as to every problem I have with the current *unecessary characters known as 'Glitz and Glam'
Do they expand the story/worldbuilding in any meaningful way? Do they explore a new hidden dynamic/past conjunction with a differing character and is that explored meaningfully? What was the point of having them animated when Mammon can portray the same level of humiliation/degrading/on stage lack of positive reinforcements. 😐
I'm so sorry but I view these characters as necessary garbage that caused some animators arthritis via too many patterns, not enough screen time to have meat and potatoes worth of dialogue, or really any pretense within the story whatsoever and yes this extends towards every female character on screen but let's not worry about that !!! Even if they are IMPLIED to be from the ring of envy-a color or ring we haven't seen nor meaningfully conveyed to the audience that it even is possible to go in/exists- it isn't conveyed to the audience well enough besides the visual implication of colors???? Instead of having shitty b-plots that go nowhere via Stolas and Blitz goofing off in seeing stars, Moxxie and Millie getting C-plots for no reason, or loona getting a rabies shot- all of that time could have been exploring hell, going to different rings, focusing on other characters besides the main 5, literally I would prefer a quiet episode like BoJack Horsemans 'Fish out of Water'where we can actually see the personalities of the main characters be appreciated and shown to us but that's never gonna happen :/
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What I've been worried about is not even the on screen racism/out of touch 'rap/hip-hop parody' leaves a terrible taste in my mouth, if that isn't enough then the sexualization/implication of an incest type dynamic and nothing else besides fetish bait with these characters constantly grabbing one another and not really acting like siblings moreso someone who has never had siblings attempting to write sibling banter and failing terribly :/
Why do you have a problem with 'Klown Bitch' it's so catchy! Uhm, no??? I feel bad for anyone who attempts to defend helluva/hazbin as good modern musicals let me grit my teeth in silence as to the glorification over white people dominating black culture
HERES A HISTORY OF FEMALE HIPHOP ARTISTS: X
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Pictured above is very old concept art about twin characters and its the same hairshape viv kept to transfer over to glitz/glam- despite clearly being over designed and way too much going on Alá vivzie style. It just goes to show she recycles even from herself and not every design is always new hot and fresh :/ AND SPEAKING OF CONCEPT ART-
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Also also don't forget salems' concept designs thst got passed even though they loon toony, loony, clown enough, and definitely majorly way easier to have animated besides the mess that is the current design meta ???
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Love how you can clearly see the silhouettes being so easily identifiable comparably towards the actual amalgamated mess that is their current limbs attempting to hold onto their toothpick body for their head.
All this screams to me is viv using the artists thst try to come onto helluva and they try their best with what their given, viv only picks the best bits SHE thinks is worth her time rather then thinking about the audience or animating anything else besides overglorified white people rap 🤔
Also the episode literally presents its full internalized misogyny/racism within this episode because vivzie herself literally admitted to typing into script with a full chest that
'Women just ain't funny'
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. . .
why present misogyny within the series if you as a creator aren't willing to tackle the subject matter? Why write about it or present it as if you're smart over including the joke in your script when it isn't even funny because it just further pushes women out of the entertainment/comedy business which mind you IS ALREADY VERY WELL MALE DOMINATED SO PUTTING OTHER WOMEN DOWN TO PUT YOURSELF UP ISNT HELPING YOUR CASE VIV???
So then what was the point of adding female clowns if all you were going to do with them was make fun of them out of their expense and then profit off of the fact that they are incest coded????????????
?????????Are we watching the same fucking series????????
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