#Armand is seeing things that I like

[asaemoryfanclub]

Lestat De Lioncourt, my darling little creejure!!! 🫰🫰😺😺 He's one of my favorite little dolls to play with and I loved the look that Armand allowed him to wear on his play pretend vision (that's how me and Armand are similar)

[fascinationstreetmp3]

i need daniel to be overcompensating for his insecurities so bad. 100 times more cocky and rude and aggressive and insensitive than he was as a human, falling back into old dangerous habits and vices, not just because now he has new energy and power and wealth to flaunt but because it's ALL he has, and he needs to cling onto it. play it up and revel in it so no one sees that underneath, he feels like a botched fledgling in the body of a sick, faded old man who maybe has no real idea why he was even made. that armand might think he failed in making him. that his maker didn't even really want him.

[cocteautwinsgirl]

i hope iwtv gets absolutely nasty when the devil's minion stuff happens bc they weren't even just having metaphorical blood drinking sex they were having weird freaky sex fr

[reinvent-and-believe]

[island-in-the-shadows]

Not for nothing but what's the damage with people being so negative about people who ship Armand and Daniel going a little nutty?

"Armand thinks of other things." Yeah no shit. Obviously. He's a complex character with an equally complex backstory. He's 514 years old, obviously there's more to him than how he's looking at one mortal man.

But also...Devil's Minion shippers get nothing. CONSISTENTLY. If you were in it from before the show (like I was) we got a chapter in the third book of a 13 book series. Daniel practically ceased to exist after book 3. Armand gets his own book and Daniel was literally a footnote in it and a negative one at that. And there's no real contact between them except maybe two passing sentences in two of the later books. Daniel isn't even mentioned in the last book of the series. We literally got a single chapter and after that, nothing.

We don't even have anything from the show except what's the equivalent of sucking on an ice cube to not totally dehydrate. That and the actors having fun about it in promo stuff. Hell, even if (and I hope the if is a when) they do ANYTHING with this pairing it likely won't be until S4 at the earliest, but realistically not until S5 (you know in 3-4 years if things are speedy).

This is the Louis and Lestat show. Obviously. They come first and that's how it should be. After that we have Armand and where he's concerned it's largely a character study that encompasses more than just his relationships. Obviously.

But ffs, leave people alone when all they have to go off of is some eye glaring. Eye glaring, mini little detail crumbs that could actually mean nothing, actors having fun, and a book chapter from 1988. I have my own Pepe Silvia crazy board and entertain myself based on practically nothing and I am aware that the likelihood of getting anything any time soon is slim at best. But I'm also gonna have fun with it on this the liking stuff and shipping stuff website. The hypothetical fun might literally be the only thing I get.

[dysfunctionalcreature]

obviously all the characters in Interview With The Vampire have such tragic pasts, and they each have so many good lines of dialogue that beautifully capture that trauma, but the one I just keep coming back to is Armand saying, voice shaking, "No one has painted me in over 400 years". It's the sadness and resentment in his voice, the implications of it, partly he just misses Marius I'm sure, but I really think that it's more than that, Armand is so deeply insecure, I can't help but think that maybe he doesn't consider himself worthy to be painted, he says "No one has painted me in over 400 years" and I can't help but hear "It has been 400 years since I was worth painting"

[mmelolabelle]

“This time I won’t save your life”

100% Armand spent the entire time leading up to and during Daniel’s time in Dubai speed-reading any and all literature on Parkinson’s he can get his claws on, he and Louis have canonically highjacked his medical care, Armand-as-Rashid has probs personally signed off on every single meal Daniel has eaten, he materialises out of thin fucking air every time Louis twitches in Daniel’s general direction and I would not put it past him to be monitoring the guy’s heart-rate 24/7 via super-vampire-hearing alone.

But sure dude, whatever helps you not-sleep I guess

[randomfandomss]

[florencechase]

it never occurred to me before but did louis say to armand does he want to lick my boots or chop my hands off because he knows he’s done it to nicki??? 😧

[beneath-the-willow-tree]

Adore Devil's Minion. Hate the idea that Daniel has to "save" or "fix" Armand. First of all, boring. Second of all, that's what Marius thought he was doing. Third — of all characters to attribute a savior complex to, Daniel "Poke the Bear" Molloy is by far the most laughable option.

[dxxtruction]

"Louis acting like a pimp to Armand" And what is a pimp exactly? Quickly. And, oh so sexual trauma survivors can't engage in kink now without it being all about that? Pet names? They can't be submissive anymore? Consensually? Sexually healthy? Be serious. I'd hardly say there's much power difference between them during all this anyway, except that Louis is freer than Armand and it's been putting a strain on their relationship. Louis wants more from Armand, and less of this 'being his past' for them both, and so helping Armand with this could fix that. It's healthy to want to help your partners get out of a rough patch?

I mean, the whole exchange was very clearly set up as a "I want to help you" after such a great moment of vulnerability Louis feels just how much Armand is desperate for it. Louis called Armand so they could work out a plan together.

And the bit with the umbrella was Louis' way of asking 'are you willing to listen to me?' and Armand said yes by unfolding it. Louis goes on and explains, Armand is allowed to argue against it, but Louis makes his point. And then he gives Armand a way to make his own choice in it too. Armand's already decided 'I want you, more than anything else in the world', but Louis still asks after if he's sure of his choice, and with a name, Arun, that is the one of his fullest agency, running the point home. Honoring the situation Armand calls Louis Maitre - as a way of being like 'I'll do as you've said then'. To make this work he's going to have to give Louis some of the control, yes. But it's the first time such a role is ever established, and it was his choice to do it. So so what if they do it in a very suggestive way? They can't like doing that? I think it's them having fun.

I struggle to find how Louis is being overly domineering here when really he's giving and offering Armand the most agency he's ever had. Same with finding it manipulative. The manipulation was more earlier in the episode I think, when he was stringing him along, giving mixed signals. He's no longer toying with him like that. Louis might be pushing Armand, leading him on to make a decision, but he doesn't mean bad by it.

But back to this pimp thing. I find it frankly offensive that this is where people are going with this. I get it, but to run with it being the case is, on many levels, wrong.

Louis told us episode 1 this was the only sustainable line of work to support his family and keep their standing, at the time. It was never his choice to be doing this either but his blackness allowed no other options. He did what he did so his family could stay in that house and maintain all their same comforts. It gave him privileges most black men didn't have at the time that he wanted to maintain and even have more of. Anyway, it doesn't and had never defined him the way 'being good at running things' had. And in that case he just likes having that kind of control where he can get it, which makes sense.

The world is what placed that kind of role onto him of what he was allowed to be able to run, not himself. And on that he actually treated the sex workers he employed well and respected them enough to give them more opportunity.** He recognizes they don't have much in the way of options either.

Louis employed sex workers, yes, but he didn't subject them to abuse, (like how Armand was)*. He didn't oversee things in a way that would go against their consent (see; episode 1 again)**. Sometimes a job is just a job. And Sex work is work.

Armand's particular past with sexual abuses may strike a particular cord with Louis, given all that, but the very last thing either is thinking is that Louis' pimping Armand out here. This is merely their decision as companions, and had nothing to do with adding another line in a laundry list of selling Armands body out to people at the command of someone else. Armand rescinds some of his control to Louis' wishes, because he wants him, and he trusts him, that's all.

If you aren't allowing Armand that choice, and are doubtful it's fully his, you're putting him right back in the box of being defined by his abuses. Putting him back into that space where he isn't given any agency over what he does. (Which is exactly opposite of what the intent of this scene is for)*.

*: (edit) added for clarity.

**: (strike through) numerous people are saying I'm misremembering these points so disregard it. (Thought he was siding with Bricks, it was the other way around). (Technically one aspect of those opportunities were for getting around the law). I don't have a perfect memory, it happens. Let's not get mad about it. Doesn't change much of the point which is that Louis, now, Louis then, was always considering more about the running things and for stated purposes. So I guess I'd say he may only have respected the SWers enough sometimes for what allowed him to do that, and there are moments he certainly expressed remorse over the fact, but he has a great deal higher respect for Armand that is genuine. It's incomparable. Please read my added notes in the tags, it should address most other concerns.

[girlivealwaysbean]

loumand argument in full (along with subtitles) !!!!!!

[fascinationstreetmp3]

i can see 1980/1981 (around the time daniel turns 27/28) as being the catalyst for his relationship with armand starting to splinter, his resentment over armand withholding the gift coming to a head, the occasional running off and wandering starting before it starts ramping up in frequency. because it's when it really hits him that's where armand is frozen — 27 forever — and daniel's past that now. he's always been younger than armand both physically and mentally but now daniel's the one who's older physically. suddenly it's way more real that one day he'll be turning grey and armand won't and it fucks with him badly

[cthulhum]

did u save my life in paris ? i gave u to armand u tell me if that was saving. why didnt u say it was me who saved u not him ? i dont like to point out my virtues. besides i knew ud figure it out and look. u have. i was right. all hail me. been enduring here ? not enduring. living. here in new orleans the whole time ? its my home. i am she she is me. i didnt know it was a gift. i wore it like a curse i was selfish. i- i tried to make the nights awful for u. i see. i wanted u to suffer cuz i was suffering. oh shall we list all the ways we have wronged each other and why it will never be right between monstrous- i came to thank u. for the gift u offered me. the gift i denied. for the nights in front of me where i might learn to live honestly. thank u. spetember 8th. 1973. september 8th 1973. it was 11:07 here. it wouldve been 9:07 in san francisco. armand called me. where u there ? yeah. did u hurt urself ? i was lost. i was in a dark way and i was thinking about- i cant i cant get her out of my mind. u have the same problem ? yeah. i cant louis- i cant-. hey hey its not on u u hear me ? i carried her home i made u turn her. i saved her from a fire so a half century later she could... she looked at me at the end... like a child looking to her father... but i was never-

[the-woman-upstairs]

Armand on a post-divorce bender while Daniel is partying it up on tour with Lestat

[winepresswrath]

I genuinely like this. Armand noticing that Louis is just not that into him and being unwilling to go all in himself because he genuinely cares about the coven is such a fascinating reversal of the situation in the books but it is still undeniably peak Armand to transition seamlessly between "I want you more than anything in the world" and "You don't want me so maybe die" like what was the trial if not Armand pushing Louis off the tower because he still wasn't ready to love him?