#iwtv s2 ep5

[girlivealwaysbean]

loumand argument in full (along with subtitles) !!!!!!

[endyillustration]

*drops this at your feet and then runs away*

[bee-named-alex]

Ok so the promised thoughts about Interview with the Vampire s2e5 (keep in mind that i haven't read the books, i've only seen some posts by people who have) SPOILERS

This episode was... heavy I guess is the right word. Pretty dark. Some things real fucked up. But also like emotionally.

I'll start with the nice thing, which is the Daniel and Louis dynamic; I really enjoy their present selfs, finding out their memories together. I like that Daniel even seems to be disappointed when Louis say that they didn't do anything lmao. Yeah and them in past is super fun too, at least at the start; Louis being happy with, Daniel "I did what I had to" Molloy taking of his shirt the moment he gets an excuse to do so.

It's interesting tho, the way Louis talks about Lestat has changed. But yeah, time passes and changes perspective (or maybe they have met after this sometimes and that changed it, but in that case i would have to ask where is lestat now)

And I think talking about the 70s takes immense trust on both parts, but especially Daniel's. I mean uncovering what he knows is risky, even without Armand in there.

Speaking of, I like that we get to hear how he likes to hunt; they tell us ("he's gonna be begging for it in an hour" or something like that) and show us with Daniel, that Armand likes his victims to be so mentally broken by him that they basically offer themselves up to him (similar to what Santiago does on stage)

Now that I've opened up Armand's behaviour, I'll talk a little about their fight. Like I get it. I get them both, Armand more than I thought I would. But fucking christ. They are both saying the hard truths (which i doubt is common in their relationship) and so it's spicy.

Louis bringing up Armand's past is fucked. But also Armand being so jealous of Lestat, like he's been their whole relationship; i like to see that, this seed of hatred and resentfulness that keeps hurting them even in present day.

And then Louis runs out and that is something i did not see coming and i feel so bad for him, like omg. And the way Armand acts towards him then feels really cruel but in the light of their fight i guess he gets to be angry (but i still dont like it)

Armand listening to the tapes and promptly torturing Daniel for four fucking days. Crazy. I mean yea this is "Torture as foreplay, the show" but still? Mental.

I wholeheartedly agree with "Fuck your boyfriend"

I'm not actually tho sure if he's torturing him for the fun of it or out of jeaulosy or if he actually wants to find out "what makes him fascinating" but still, jesus (He really said, you could be on your knees in a second and you WILL, lol)

The Lestat-Armand scene broke my heart. This means that they both know that Lestat is alive because Louis didn't look at all surprised that he is, only shocked that Armand knew where he was. So id like to know if he actually found out (when? how??) or if he just assumed.

Now, what is Armand trying to do here? If it's to hurt Louis, he's successful but it hurts me to think that's it. If it's actually to make Louis happy, than he's doing it all wrong, like Louis tells him like a million times to stop. If it's to show that he's better, or like to give Louis a choice and hope he's the chosen one, I mean I guess? Still don't get it tho.

I really like that he refuses to say the "I love you", because, well, I'm not sure about the intentions, but to me it shows that he is scared that Louis would leave him if he knew. Which is not an unfounded fear really, not from the point of view of someone who's been listening to the tapes and hearing Lestat, Lestat, Lestat... over and over again. I think that the tapes kinda confirm Armand's fears that he isn't "enough" for Louis and could never be enough because he just isn't Claudia and he just isn't Lestat.

And the talk after that scene, "he is just my maker" yea no we both know you're lying. But then they explain why Armand's acting kinda like a servant to Louis (because to be tired of cleaning messes, you would have to have cleaned a lot of messes), because he's trying to undo something that happened in Paris? (Claudia is in danger, i fear)

Speaking of Lestat, where is he?? I mean he doesn't know where Louis is and Armand refuses to tell him, but I don't think that's just it. Like, I'm pretty sure if he could, Lestat would burn the whole word to find Louis. So it might be that he's been locked up somewhere? (i have seen people who know the books talk about some dungeon i think?? but idk)

Next thing I find quite fascinating (haha) is the very confusing Loumand power dynamic. It mostly comes from Armand and the way he seems to have two conflicting personalities that he switches between; one of them is the "cold, dark, manipulative, always in power, will torture you mentally", you know like he was acting with Daniel for most of the episode, and then there is the "devoted servant, looking to please and get love, yes maitre, of course maitre" or as Louis calls it, very 'tactly' I might add, "the bitch he was groomed to become", (it is obviously a horrible thing to say, i mean come on, louis.)

And I'm not sure what causes him to switch, if it just happens inside him or if the change is somehow (intentionally or even unintentionally) caused by Louis. It also kinda reminds me of the way Lestat has the mental stability of a rocking horse, but instead of it being "Everything is fine -> Rage", it's "I'm in power -> I will do literally anything you say".

Also idk how Louis feels about this. Because he will certainly use this side of Armand to get what he wants, but I'm not all that sure that he necessarily enjoys that power. Whatever it is, he saved Daniel thanks to it so yeah, good.

The ending, i am a little scared about, i will admit. Not sure how fast Armand can figure out what they know, and when he does, if they will know that he knows that they know. Dubai scenes are gonna be fun is what im saying.

Lastly, the trailer. Looks great again, more Loumand scenes that will hopefully be healthier than whatever this was. I am scared for Claudia as per Armand's "Have I atoned for my part of Paris?" i think the girl is done for. Also Santiago clearly play part in that, i've seen some people talk about a court?? and it looks like he's gonna do just that, probably court for Claudia and Louis (and possibly Armand?)

This didn't fit anywhere, but this episode somehow made me like Armand more? Not as a person, but as a character. I was always team Lestat and it might be because he was there first and i tend to be biased towards that, but maybe it's the fact that he was just more fun to watch. Like both his "normal" and his "fucked up". Armand was really cool too, but his "normal" i just didn't enjoy as much. But his "fucked up" was horrifying and also totally fascinating to watch so now i like him a little more than before (lestat still remains above him tho, idk what to tell you)

So anyways I hope you enjoyed my rant. I will happily read any responses also I might add to this if I remember something later.

[hoomanbeaning]

"... 'make you one of us?' the accent thickened, giving a fine lilt to the words. 'why would i do that?' eyes narrowing. 'i would not do that to those whom i find to be despicable, whom i would see burning in hell as a matter of course. so why should i do it to an innocent fool-like you?' ..."

anne rice's the story of daniel / the devil's minion / or the boy from the interview with the vampire

[rocks-in-my-vodka]

louis would LOVE kendrick lamar. lestat would be on the front row of chappell roan’s concert nailing the hot to go dance

[duhhck]

Don’t Be Afraid, Just Start The Tape . . . . 🎥

“You’re fine…this is fine. We’re all FINE!”

[robinspen]

Rest now.

[gorpoblorp]

can someone write a devil's minion fanfic where Daniel and Louis confront Armand and Armand is like "OH YOU WANNA HATE ME NOW DANNY?" Then just psychically beams a bunch of memories into his brain where Daniel is pathetically in love with him. Daniel calling Armand boss, begging for the blood, telling Armand he's the best he's ever had, and just being my favorite boyfailure. Then all the gay freaks frown and leave the room or have another marriage story argument or an orgy idk I'm spitballing.

[starsyearn]

oh how i love a ruthless vampire with abandonment issues

[v4llk]

[fool-for-luv]

cannot get over armand calling up his and louis' shared ex for psychological torment reasons (?) and yet somehow being the one to come out of the situation hurt bc lestat told him to tell louis he loves him. literally a woman scorned but he's doing the scorning himself. i'm obsessed

[lincourtian]

Daniel diary, about "him(?)"

Sometimes, I feel a screaming sensation in my chest, one of those larger than ourselves, one of those unbearable ones, and to be honest, I think I have lived and constantly live dangerously close to this sensation. It mutates, changes, becomes bigger, smaller, and sometimes ceases to exist, the bitterest and most detestable part of me, because it comes at a time when everything seems to improve, when my mind was ready to give me a chance, to prove myself to myself.

Days and days, where my mouth fills with a bitter taste, a latent need, and an uncontrollable desire, as if all the answers to my incessant pain were in alcohol, tobacco, or something else. As if I were an addict, an addict without even having tried enough in this feeling, I feel in the purest abstinence. I don't quite know why, but it calls me, as if it were an old friend, a forgotten memory that I am not allowed to remember, one I hadn't seen or felt for a long time, and now the longing knocked at the door, for someone I don't even know who they are, or if they are really someone, and as if this someone had decided the most opportune moment, they decided to penetrate my mind, bringing me the purest and absolute despair by not remembering them or the cause of this feeling.

I thought addiction came intrinsically linked to their supposed existence, I thought, for some time, long moments, that tasting it might make it part of something within me, or that it might make me remember part of my interior, deteriorating me internally, while vaguely bringing a possible relief, as if it and its addiction walked side by side, and that they could walk side by side with me. With a false frustrated hope, it had the same effect on me as a sedative.

I know that the reason for all this chaos is also mainly linked to them, that I try to find the answer also in them, but everything becomes difficult when you don't even know if they, if it is even a "they," exist.

This was a text written by me, I thought about how Daniel must have felt after meeting Louis and Armand in the 70s. I thought about the idea of falling in love with someone you don't remember. It's just a small thing.

[m0nst3rf3n]

daniel molloy tapping things you mean so much to me

[bee-named-alex]

Just watched iwtv ep 5 of s2 and whoo boy! This was something. I dont think I'll recover like ever.

I might write like a full review (here it is) or something. Later tho because rn i have 15 pages of notes in my phone on it and i think i need some time to figure something out of it (cuz i dont think anyone needs 15 pages where half the reactions is basically "omg that so fucked up")

[luuuna-rambles]

Wait so if we're already with the coven by episode 2... what on earth is gonna happen the rest of the series???

[baseballmomlesbiandad]

okay I changed tactics and now im watching who's afraid of virginia woolf and Elizabeth Taylor calling her husband a simp is sending me???