#Anti Uchiha Family

[moon-trees]

kinda funny how fugaku calls itachi a kind child, and then 5 minutes later, itachi tortures his 7 year old brother.

fugaku: itachi, you truly are a kind child. take care of sasuke...

itachi: don't worry father, i will.

also itachi: tortures sasuke twice, manipulates and abandons him, and literally ruins his life.

fugaku, mikoto, and the entire uchiha clan:

[punkeropercyjackson]

'Incest is inherently complex and mature storytelling' always sends me and so does the historical significance of it as 'proof' it is.Ancient Greece is thee pedestary era because misogyny was so strong men would rather be incestous pedophiles than date women,incest as gay culture is almost ENTIERLY a white westerner thing and is frowned upon like everywhere due to the studies that proved it's familial abuse with no posibility of consent on both sides and sometimes even neither,'family members being ultra intimate/intense if they're the same gender is coded incest' is literal Gay Panic propaganda,m/f incest is always just dudebro fantasies that violently misogynizes the girl in it,a lot of incest shippers and incestplayers are simply only children and therefore don't really understand sibling dynamics OR middle/high schoolers who were exposed to incest shipping online through their fandoms and think they're smartypants edgelords that understand REAL drama only they're tragically just grooming victims and i could go on!It's not 'discrimination' to be anti-incest even in fiction and the bedroom,it's having a brain and care for other people!There's countless ways to tell a dark and even bleak story without involving positively potrayed incest,ESPECIALLY if it's just for porn and it's no longer just a private bedroom thing when you blog about it in PUBLIC tags that ANYONE can find and the social media account creation age is 13,NOT 18+ so watch yourselves.Curation of your experience applies to you too and ageism applies to the minors you bully for being triggered over incest more than it does you seeing as you actually have power over them,online AND systematically.Kill the cop in your head-They don't think incest is actually bad either and that's why black people invented acab

[thetrashthatsmilesback]

One thing that annoys me about boruto is that naruto ended with the confirmation that Sasuke was *right* but that his *methods* weren't the best way to achieve what he wants

Naruto agrees that shinobi society needs to be massively overhauled, he just thinks it can be achieved without mass death or at the cost of Sasuke. Youre not supposed to end Naruto believing that Konoha's system was correct.

You're supposed to leave the manga *knowing that Sasuke's beliefs were correct, it was his methods which weren't the best path forward*

Naruto wants to take the pacifist path of talking and communication, but he doesn't fundamentally disagree with Sasuke.

But then we get to boruto and what do we have? The same system except the villages get along now. Great. So different. Also for some reason Sasuke is willing to die for the sake of Konoha.

You're supposed to end Naruto knowing that sasuke was correct about shinobi society and hoping that Naruto will bring about change even if sasuke doesn't stay (his """redemption""" tour which was unneeded because he was the fucking victim) but boruto shows us a society where nothing has changed

[mochiajclayne]

thoughts on sasusaku + sarada and their...family

Will start this out by stating that this is a combination of observation and analysis so take it with a grain of salt.

(If you like sasusaku/ss, this ain't for you so please do yourself a favor and scroll away.)

naruhina + boruto version.

This is definitely the most fucked up thing to ever come in fruition in the sequel and they weren't even justified in Gaiden. LMAO. 

Diving into this family's issue at hand, it's pretty much about Sasuke being an absent father and being away from his family for more than a decade--not to mention that Sasuke is able to freaking report to the Hokage but not even pay a visit to his family.

Gaiden was pretty much good at covering the topic already but let's break down how dysfunctional it is:

The lack of evidence signified about Sasuke and Sakura being married. We see pictures of Sakura and Sarada at important moments of her life but not a single wedding photo. Sarada pretty much asking Sakura if she's really Sasuke's wife is valid because she won't doubt from the beginning if there was telltale evidence supporting that information. There isn't.

The "family" photo. Sasuke was roughly seventeen in that photo, not to mention it's next to Sakura who is in her 30s at that point. Isn't it strange? No updated photo since they got married? What's fucked up is that she had to cover up the rest of Taka behind that photo. That raised more questions, specifically, Sarada asking who those people are and who is the one wearing glasses like she does.

And, yeah. The glasses thing. It was a simple yes or no question. Sakura saying that she doesn't know is inane because they had spent time as Team 7 in the past, not to mention the sporadic moment they see each other (Orochimaru's hideout, that bridge where she tried to kill him but failed), and during the war. I don't know where she's looking but Sasuke hasn't worn glasses at all and if she can't answer that simple question, that says more about her. Anyway, that fed the idea that she doesn't know a single thing about her husband at all and Sarada notices this. Naruto who was able to say information about Sasuke unprompted, pretty much what Sarada needed to hear--yeah, I know. Shocker.

Sasuke's first meeting with Sarada. I've seen enough takes about him being an absent father. I'm not disagreeing with that. However, I present another perspective: Sasuke doesn't even know what his daughter looks like even though it's been shown that he was in Konoha at the time that Naruto is already Hokage (which would mean Sarada would be around seven or eight years old) and Sakura is in that same room, too. You're telling me that she couldn't have at least fucking introduce Sarada and Sasuke to each other? It's easy to shift the blame to the absent father because he simply isn't there but when Sakura, who knows the mission and with uncertainties on its duration, couldn't have made the initiative to simply give the kid an assurance that yeah, this is your dad, he exists and to Sasuke, she's Sarada and she's seven and she wears glasses. If making them meet is too much, at least a fucking photo would suffice it. But no. Nothing of the sort coming from Sakura. Why? Because she's okay with Sasuke being absent. She doesn't see any issue with it.

Communication. This is a controversial take and I will keep it simple. If Naruto and Sasuke can communicate and contact each other, what's stopping Sakura from reaching out to Sasuke? Isn't she his wife? She could literally write her own letter and send it alongside Naruto's but no efforts had been made on that. This is the benefit of the doubt but if Sakura at least reached out, then it's up to Sasuke to either intentionally ignore that or respond to her. My point here is initiative--it has been shown time and time again that she can do that, we've seen instances of it in the prequel. Did she stop because she finally got what she wants and is content with whatever crumbs she could hold on to? 

Sarada's birth. The sketchiest of them all. Some people wrote excellent analysis on this so please do check them out. My two cents on this is Orochimaru discussing cloning to Naruto and pretty much piquing Sarada's curiosity about the concept (which later on led to DNA testing as courtesy of Suigetsu). Sasuke pretty much reacted this way:

Usually, ellipsis in media is used when the character is pondering/thinking about something. It also represents speechlessness or a pause. Now tell me, if Sarada's birth isn't sketchy and was in some sort of way, normal, why did Sasuke casted that wayward side glance? The entirety of Gaiden as well as this page was meant to make the readers question Sarada's conception. For a backstory, Kishimoto sure left more questions than answers.

Everything is unconventional like Sakura not keeping the umbilical cord and Karin has it instead, no records at Konoha Hospital when Sakura works there and can coordinate with the proper department/s to handle paperworks, traveling while pregnant (ma'am you are a medic-nin, make it make sense), etc. I will leave this as it is, again, it has been discussed extensively by various blogs here.

In conclusion, even in adulthood, Naruto and Sasuke knows each other best. They become expert parents (at least) around each other's kids. In a fucked up way, I think it's a silent cry for help aka look I'm good with your kid and we could've been good parents together but we were forced into these marriages.

Sasusaku ended up canon but it still doesn't change the fact that Sakura knows little to nothing about Sasuke to the point that Sarada picked up on that and even threw it at her face. At the end of the day, Naruto remained as the one and only that knows Sasuke's heart best.

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

I wonder if all the stories Itachi learned about the Uchiha were like this. Stories of abuse of power and fratricidal fights. I wonder where he learned them, if by any chance he was fed this biased tales from the enemies of the Uchiha, who were the ones in charge of the education system of the village, probably the ones that controlled information and the ones with the power to rewrite history in the way they pleased.

I always thought he was intentionally lying when he claimed Madara murdered Izuna to take his eyes, but after remembering the Izanami/Izanagi tale, I am considering the possibility that maybe he actually believed that. Maybe he really thought he came from a dynasty of power thirsty bastards capable of killing their own flesh and blood for dominance. I wonder if he ever got a chance to get the other version of the story from his own clan, the family he felt so isolated from. Or even, if more people in the clan actually believed the same.

[sassykinzonline]

*me listening to the will of fire speech for the 50th time* too long, didn't read, plus you sacrificed a 13 year old to prevent yourselves from losing power

[narutobyari]

New illustration done by Kishimoto sensai.

Red hair = Karin

Black eyes = Sasuke.

Why does that boy looks like Sasuke and Karins child??

[theheirofthesharingan]

I see my Twitter filled with the posts related to 'Uchiha family' and see something is amiss. Sarada and Sakura don't make the 'Uchiha family.' Not to me, at least. The only Uchiha family I care about and comes to my mind is with Sauske, Itachi, Mikoto, and Fugaku. With all their imperfections, they're the Uchiha family that matters and counts. Everything else is artificial.

[anubisthe1]

Madara would hate itachi for the reason that he treated sasuke like that alone. He doesn't even need more reasons.

[charlie-and-brown]

I always love movies or anime that depict family drama. When I saw Sasuke’s family, I truly could resonate with him. That’s a standard Asian family.

That’s why I have a soft spot for him. If you love your family so dearly that to lose them all in a blink would destroy someone’s mind. He didn’t become some lunatics but still walked on his path to avenge his family. That’s the achievement itself.

For someone like Sasuke, he literally had no other path. For justice, he needed to kill Itachi because he massacred the whole clan. For family, he needed to kill him for he killed their parents. However, killing this person would assure him to be forever alone.

In Chinese, it called, 義, similar to morality, but it’s much closer to justice. Something in between.

That’s why I couldn’t like Itachi. He was narcissistic. He considered him the solution of this dilemma. Regardless of the outcome, he should let his clan members decide, but he was just smart and wanted to save Konoha from civil wars and his family’s face and his brother?

So…other clan members weren’t important because they weren’t the main clan? (Hinata’s father seemed better right now. He just gave his cousins seals. No life threatening. Just a reminder of who you are.)

Itachi massacred the whole clan, including babies, children, teenagers, and someone’s parents just for saving other people in Konoha. That’s just evil. Every life matters. And a lot of people said he was right.

Are you kidding me?

Yeah, Just get rid of the people he didn’t like for a better outcome for humankind. That’s just wonderful.

After I saw this drawing, I could totally get why Susake had some strong reactions.

Tell me Itachi is right, if you still could.

How could you still think he was sparing their pains? They didn’t need this pain in the first place!!A lot of his clan members didn’t know about the coup. Who gave him the right to decide?

He could just kill the people who were in charge of the coup, but no, for Uchiha was evil, he needed to kill them all. For saving the face, he needed to kill them.

Sound familiar, right? How was it different from old Asian Culture or Indian Culture, which allow the clan members to kill women conducting adultery just to save face?

And a lot of people shipped Uchiha Izumi and Itachi. I just couldn’t imagine. She would rather live, okay? There are a lot of men in the world. No matter how useless she might be, she could still find someone who loved her and she loved back.

The word, Love, could never erase Itachi’s sin. He could claim he loved his brother all along but what he had done during Massacre and after it were torture and nothing else. There were some fan fictions that Sasuke saved him from death or spared him because of learning the truth.

I don’t think that would work. Itachi had forced himself and his brother to the corner and there was absolute no turning back.

Sasuke is someone who has clear ideas in the right and wrong. Despite it’s Konoha’s order, but the person who carried out was his brother. His brother was the one who decided all Uchiha should die for the greater good.

Itachi had done the things that no humankind would allow. I truly pitied him because his life was nothing but a sigh. He had chosen the path to the darkness and only death could bring him peace. He couldn’t afford to think in other ways or he would need to face his mistakes. That’s painful and sad.

[sklives]

Hello... Well, I'm kind off from Tumblr lately, however I'm working in a AU so all my energy and focus is in it, so until there I will try my best to always post something too.

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[adhdnojutsu]

Ew.jpg because ew.

Or "What in the SP filler-"

Or "Dango from Danzo, with love"

Or "How to groom a little bootlicker, step 1"

Or "I'm an unapologetically horrible person"

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

Konoha: The village is like a family, we would do anything to protect it and eliminate anyone who threatens it, this is "the Will of Fire".

Uchiha: Ok, the clan is our family, we would do anything to protect it and eliminate anyone who threatens it too.

Konoha: Oh, no, not like that. That is "Curse of Hatred".

[watermelonsloth]

The Uchiha Family Should’ve Leaned Into Its Nontraditional Dynamic

Something that’s bothered me about the Gaiden is how it doesn’t fully commit to its theme.

The Gaiden’s theme is that blood doesn’t make a family, but bonds of love do. I think that’s a great message and, if it was executed well, it could’ve touched a lot of people. But it wasn’t executed well. Instead, Sarada knows so little about the Uchiha clan and what it stood for that blood is the only thing that connects her to it and Sakura was her biological mother all along so the entire one-shot and theme doesn’t matter anyways. If I was in charge of writing the Gaiden, I would pick the low hanging solution right in front of my face. Sakura is infertile and Karin was a surrogate mother. This change alone would make a lot make more sense:

1. Her getting angry at Sarada for questioning her nontraditional relationship with Sasuke: Sakura has always been insecure, especially about her ability to fulfill traditionally feminine roles(inner Sakura being the best example of this), so her being embarrassed or ashamed of being infertile would be an in-character way to explain her reaction to Sarada questioning her relationship with Sasuke. It might’ve hit a nerve related to how well she’s performing her “wifely duties.” It wouldn’t have excused her overreaction, but it would’ve at least made some sense.

2. Sarada’s Karin-like design features: I know there are analyses of how Sarada looks like Sakura, but most aren’t very convincing and they miss the point. The Gaiden makes it clear that Sarada is supposed to physically look like Sasuke but act more like Sakura. Also physical similarities don’t negate how, on the surface level, Sarada invokes more Karin than Sakura. Sarada’s glasses(because, let’s be honest, that’s the thing that’s actually reminding us of Karin) would make more sense if she was biologically related someone with glasses.

3. The DNA test has a purpose: The DNA test she takes actually revealing a biological connection to Karin would make the scene and the following conversation with Naruto have a lot more weight and meaning. Sarada doesn’t have any relationship with Karin outside of blood, but she loves Sakura as her mother, so her still choosing Sakura would better align with the message.

4. Sarada was born in one of Orochimaru’s hideouts: This has less to do with continuity errors and more to do with further explaining the secrecy around Sarada’s birth. Isn’t it weird how Naruto, Suigetsu, and presumably everyone uninvolved in the delivery seem in the dark about the specifics? I get that couples and parents aren’t obliged to share the details of their children’s births, but I do find it strange how they dance around questions so much it comes across as avoidant(so much so that Naruto, of all people, wasn’t sure if Sasuke cheated on Sakura). This secrecy makes no in-world sense if Sakura is the mom, but it would under these circumstances. Maybe Sakura was insecure about not being biologically related to her child. Maybe there are laws in Konoha that place responsibility on Karin as the biological mother or restrict Sakura’s ability to raise her daughter. Maybe Sasuke wanted to avoid potential complications in him having a biological child with someone who isn’t loyal to/living in Konoha. Maybe Karin didn’t want people(like Suigetsu) speculating about her relationship with Sasuke when she’s moved on and only wanted to help two friends out. Maybe Sakura and Sasuke didn’t want people questioning the legitimacy of their marriage any more than they already were. Point is, more complicated circumstances would make the avoidance make a lot more sense.

5. Karin was left with Sarada’s umbilical cord: I’m not gonna pretend that I know Japanese culture enough to know what beliefs and traditions may or may not exist around umbilical cords, but I am gonna say that as a western observer, I find it weird that Karin was left with the umbilical cord. But Karin being left with the cord as a thank you for carrying Sarada would at least make some modicum of sense.

This change wouldn’t fix the Gaiden, but I think it would help. It’s also just a win-win-win. You get to keep a theme about familial relationships not being defined by blood, you get to keep the canon ships in tact, and you get to represent a less traditional/ represented family dynamic.

In regards to Sasuke’s role in this theme, it could have him learning that if he wants the Uchiha clan to heal from the massacre he needs to be present and pass down the beliefs of his clan to his daughter. I propose instead of a family dinner followed by Sasuke leaving the village again, we get to see Sasuke teaching Sarada the fireball jutsu(since we never see her perform it in the Gaiden, the fireball jutsu is one the Uchiha clan is known for, and Fugaku teaching it to him was a very important moment of acknowledgement for him).

The only issue I’ve found, after a quick bit of googling, is that surrogacy seems to be taboo in Japan, so the execution of this in a popular Shounen Jump title like Naruto might be easier said than done.

[emotican]

I try not to pay attention to the Boruto manga/anime unless there’s a cute Uchiha family cameo, but I will literally LOSE it if anything happens to Sasuke. This series frustrates me to no end because they did Sasuke and Naruto so dirty.

Don’t even get me started on this Otsutsuki thing which has basically sidelined Sarada lmao. I might be in the minority here but other than fleshing out the shinobi families, I wish this series never existed.

They could have just drawn all the novels and that would’ve been fine with me. Like how did we even get to this point where we’re dealing with literal gods/aliens.

[narutobyari]

Sasuke x Karin , my little babies ❤️❤️❤️