#And make food that people with dairy allergies can fucking have

[spiritwildheartofachild]

Roasted chicken is 1000000000000x WORSE than fried chicken but all the fried fucking chicken has fucking dairy except for one type from KFC but the last time I ate there I found mold in my iced tea.

I have had the worst fucking day.

[licensed-fisherman]

"we are allergy friendly"

>ask if they're accommodating all allergies or just peanuts

>they dont understand

>i show them the list of allergies that they have from people filling out the sign up form

>they laugh and say "we have allergy friendly options"

>i have a whey protein allergy

>the options are peanut free

[unhonestlymirror]

I've seen meme made by @flashlight-sticker and I wanted to remake it based on my real life experience (with explanations):

1. Every Eastern European country is very good at cooking - but the first place is shared between Ukraine and Latvia.

In Ukraine, I recommend you to visit "Flagman" restaurants (expensive), "Dary morya" seafood store (affordable, may have delicacies like escallops or pike caviar by a pretty good price sometimes), and of course Silpo (used to be hella expensive but worth it, idk for now, GO BUY THEIR BUCKWHEAT BREAD AND PIZZA!!) and Puzata Hata cantine net (pretty affordable but very good quality).

In Latvia, it's Lido. Just go there, you won't regret it, the staff speaks English. They also have very nice dairy products and ice cream in Rimi shops. Latvia is fucking awesome at cooking, literally nothing's ever disappointed me there.

Belarus is also very good cook, especially when it comes to potatoes, ofc, but their meat and meat products are too extravagant for me... but it's definitely worth trying! People often bring chocolate sweets, birch juice and dark bread from there as souvenirs because they're pretty delicious, too.

Lithuanian food is also amazing, especially if you're a sportsman or student (someone who got used to burn lots of calories on daily basis). Biržų Duona bakery, Iki shops, Maxima shops, Lido shops, Charlie Pizza and Fokus Pizza (serve non-pizza nice business lunches), CAFFEINE - these are some delicious and affordable options, I don't go often to restaurants. Lithuanians tend to like pretty spicy hot soups (India's nephew, afterr all XD). My only advice to you: if you visit Lithuania and you don't feel like you're gonna drop dead if you don't eat something right goddamn now - DO NOT GO TO FAST FOOD POINTS. Literally go anywhere else but McDonald's, KFC and Hesburger. There are so many finger-licking options, don't waste your time on some average hamburgers.

Turkey is good at cooking (they're Ukraine's neighbours after all). Especially at local sweets and French creme soups. I recommend you katmer (sweet hot pistachio lasagna) and grilled seafood.

2.

Spain didn't impress me with its cuisine. 90% of tourists who praise it are Germans - and whatever Germans eat on daily basis would make any Eastern European miserable and depressed. In Spain, it seems like they drink fresh orange juice only, which is not bad unless you have citrus allergy. Then it's gonna be a serious quest, especially if you're out of funds (still water is more expensive than orange juice). Also, Jordan makes paella better.

Never been to Belgium so idk.

Never been to Bulgaria either but they're Ukraine's cousin so their food must be good. Thus, I place them higher.

Finland is Okay cook, definitely better than the rest of Nordics, so I place them higher.

France is pretty good cook, but even with their huge food diversity, they still don't have affordable good quality cantines. Some of them tend to close cafes and restaurants during lunch time?? Thus, I place them lower.

3.

Sorry, Greece, but never in my life I've been served with unpeeled deep fried microshrimps... Karavidopsiha is pretty nice, tho. Potatoes are meh. I recommend you to order fish and seafood. I usually order non-spicy fish because it's cooked really fast and it's hard to hide bad smell&taste in case it's rotten.

Literally every restaurant in the center of Rome!! will serve you with black-peppered pasta carbonara... In many cases, it's also not boiled enough - and in all cases, it costs too much for its quality! Wtf, Italy, that's your capital, the face of a country! You better book in an apartment with kitchen because small local shops have some nice fresh products which you will definitely have to cook yourself in order to stop being depressed. You also need to have a guide or a good old friend who lives here for a while, who can recommend you some nice restaurants (in most cases, far from the center). If you're a very rich& influensive guest visiting Italy, in ALL 5 starts restaurants, they're gonna serve you with Tiramisu (not bad, just keep it in mind). Also, DON'T order pizza here without a guide - better go to McDonald's.

4.

Hugary is good at cooking meat.

Egypt is good in everything which isn't European cuisine.

Switzerland has nice warm spinach bakery in Migros. McDonald's there fucking sucks!!!!

Never been to Canada and USA so idk.

Liechtenstein idk, Poland... overall has nice cuisine but almost every time it's a bit too burnt and/or oily to my taste. If you're from USA/Western Europe, you'll find it amazing anyway.

5. Norway trying very hard but still can't cook for shit. They don't even have salted salmon in shops, wtf! Vegetables and fruist costs like they're made from gold. Bakery's tasteless, but I give kudos for the visual appearance. My favorite pastime there became eating sugar substitute. Idk how non-fishermen live there, if I had to eat like this everyday, I'd hang myself.

6.

Germany is famous among Eastern Europeans for having really bad taste in food. They really believe pop tarts are delicious, and that coffee&croissant is a rich man's breakfast, poor guys... Every time I go there and pick a random cafe, I order a soup and it's ALWAYS inedible. If you can't even cook a normal soup, then what can you cook at all?... Bakery's also tasteless. They drink so much beer it leaves me speechless. McDonald's and Chinese cuisine will be your calm island in the middle of a stormy sea.

In UK, the only dish I remember as good was street food (fresh strawberries in chocolate). And they were made by Polish girls. Fish&Chips isn't even worth trying. Literally every country cooks better English breakfast than England. Just go to McDonald's, don't torture yourself/your family&friends.

[rainbow--skies]

I don't talk about my food allergies much on here because them being the One Thing half my classmates knew about me growing up and the excessive paranoia my parents shoved on me about them genuinely makes me hate doing so, and I also don't really PERSONALLY consider my allergies a disability (but I have no problem with other people doing so).

However I have noticed that whenever they get included in disability posts on here, it's always by people without food allergies who have barely any idea what the fuck they're talking about. So many people (including people with allergies!) are SO uninformed about how they work and it's worrying so here's some stuff I wish more people knew:

An Epi-Pen does not cure you it helps with some of the symptoms so you can get to the fucking hospital. You still need to go to the fucking hospital.

Food allergies CAN kill you- many people's are not that severe but they CAN kill you. Take them seriously please

Your little "haha people with food allergies are the weakest link" jokes are harmful and offensive and part of why so many people don't take allergies seriously. Stop it. You're not funny. Find a better joke. So many mainstream TV shows even do this it's disheartening

Many people with food allergies also have eczema (I used to when I was younger) or asthma (I don't but I know people who have both), the comorbidities are very common, but not universal

Airborne allergies are not very common at all and usually do not cause severe reactions and it's weird to me that people act like this is common (it kind of feels like excuse to isolate people with food allergies when food is being served sometimes) but if someone has said they do not want to be near their allergen at all you should respect this you do not know what someone's symptoms are

Cross contamination is also something not everyone suffers from (some people have low level allergies) but many of us do (including me) and you should not get offended if someone doesn't accept food they can't see ingredients/health info for or homemade food for that reason

You can be allergic to any food to any degree- people seem to have this weird misconception that it's just peanuts, nuts, dairy, eggs, and other more publicized foods but that's not true at all

If it's possible, ask people what they would prefer as an accommodation when food is being served PLEASE. Some of us would rather eat before, some would rather bring food, some would rather alternative options be offered or restaurants they can eat at be chosen. Some are fine sitting near people eating stuff we can't, some would rather sit in a separate space, and some would rather if the food was just not eaten when they are present at all. Myself and many others that I know actually would rather sit next to someone eating something we can't because it doesn't actually affect us to be near them if we're careful enough not to touch it than to sit at separate "allergen free" tables and such because it's a socially isolating experience, but there are people who would feel more comfortable eating away from others and this is okay too.

Many of us are only allergic to one or two things, some are allergic to a ton

There are less common types of allergies that don't follow the typical pattern of food allergies- as an example I have some allergies that come from oral allergy syndrome, which basically means that my seasonal allergies to certain types of pollen makes me slightly allergic to some fruits and vegetables too

Food allergies can sometimes randomly develop in teenagers and adults, they are not always there from birth or early childhood like many people think (though it's incredibly common for them to start that early). There is not a guarantee you will never get one but your chances are higher if your family has a history of them. Sometimes they can go away or decrease in severity over time too, though, but that does NOT happen to everybody

Lactose intolerance and Celiac Disease are not food allergies! They are separate conditions with separate symptoms and needs! Please educate yourselves about those too and not assume they are synonymous with food allergies

[jellybeanium124]

I still cannot get over how so many restaurants in 2024 don't have milk alternatives. apparently around 68% of adults are lactose intolerant. that's the MAJORITY!!! most adults cannot process milk, but all you have for my diner coffee is dairy?? ok maybe most people don't get as sick as I do. I've voluntarily cut quite a lot of dairy from my diet and do not drink straight milk or eat ice cream anymore because it will put me in that much pain, but the majority of adults experience some form of discomfort and you have no alternative for us?? NADA?? how is this acceptable??

I'm so glad we're not longer in the 2014 making-fun-of-people-who-get-starbucks-with-milk-alternatives era, but I feel like the effect of that era still hasn't worn off, because I am genuinely more concerned about my request for a milk alternative in my coffee to be ignored than my request to keep my food away from tree nuts at restaurants, even tho the former will just make me sick and the latter will potentially send me to the hospital/kill me. Like at a coffee place I triple check that my order was made with almond milk when they hand it to me, versus at a restaurant I never feel the need to ask the server if my food was kept away from nuts when it's served to me. It's probably because people know nut allergies are serious that I feel safer, versus the fact that society doesn't take lactose intolerance seriously in any way.

also, and I am the wrong person to talk about this but I feel like I can't bring up the lack of accommodation for people with lactose intolerance without mentioning it... is this racist? google tells me only ~20% of white adults are lactose intolerant, while like 70-90% of adult people of color are. it also makes me wonder about the fact that the image in the public consciousness of the 2014 era people-who-get-milk-alternatives-from-starbucks-to-be-trendy/frivolous is a 15-25yo white girl/woman. anyways like I said I am not the right person to be leading this discussion but I just felt like I couldn't ignore it.

anyways in conclusion if you're an establishment that serves milk get at least 1 fucking alternative, and preferably get the main three so people can have options (for some reason oat milk also makes me sick, so if the only alternative is oat milk I'm still kinda fucked, and my preference is almond. I'm sure other people have preferences for soy or oat of course so I think all 3 should be available for the 70% OF US WHO CANNOT DIGEST MILK!!!).

[allsadnshit]

It's so gross when people want to shame people who shop at "organic grocery" type stores because they COULD save money at Walmart or aldi type superstores... as though those places have the same access to allergy related good products.... when I was in my hometown without nice grocery places the gluten free section was legit not even HALF a shelf/isle and none of the meat is even remotely ethical or healthy it's literally dyed and the animals were greatly mistreated and probably sick?

It's just something where able bodied people want to tell someone who has to focus on their health why that's stupid or how they could be living cheaper without knowing what it's like and that really sucks. Most of the time high quality local food like milk and eggs that are pasture raised without additives are more expensive. when you are actually paying farmers...that's also going to mean the produce is more expensive. And I am so tired of people wanting to cheap out on all their food and then scoff at people who's bodies might not have the option of eating like that without immediate repercussions.

Like do they think I WANT to buy expensive ass gluten free flour instead of getting a big bulk cheap bag of normal flour? I CANT. My body would malfunction. It's so heartless to not care about how your food is made or if the people growing it are treated fairly. I don't shop at Whole Foods or places that like to own the term organic while just actually being Amazon.

But going to the local butcher can be expensive. Buying local high quality small farm dairy can be expensive. Have food allergies is expensive.

Telling people they should just eat whatever cheap fake food product is gonna be easiest on the pockets completely undermines that many immunocompromised, chronically ill, disabled people don't have that option safely. And then they try and say "oh well if you bought everything bulk you can just make all your food from scratch". Like do you do that???? No???? So we should just be expected to be baking and cooking every single thing we eat from scratch every day while working jobs? Some people can't lift a spoon without their hands shaking.

I hate cheap food consumerist culture and how exclusionary it is and how on their high horse people who bargain shop everything can be. I don't want to spend my whole paycheck on expensive food but I can't go grab a slice of pizza somewhere like you? Fuck off

[lifblogs]

There’s barely any food to eat, and not just because of my allergies. My mom has so far decided to not go grocery shopping for me and Archer. She’s only buying food for herself, and then seems surprised when I don’t want to eat rice for every meal, as if eating good food isn’t part of being alive and wanting to stay alive, as if good food and nutrition hold no sway over anyone’s life, as if I can actually want to live when I’m just living off of rice. We’re almost out of rice anyway. Same with bread. I’ve been eating cheese (non-dairy) past its recommended date because there is literally no other option. But seriously, how does she think this is okay? It is not okay I spent all my settlement money the last year or so on food because she refused to buy any for me as soon as I developed lactose intolerance. She’s so lying when she says she can’t provide me with food. She did it before! Where the fuck is that money going??? She goes out to eat, shares our food with her boyfriend who can buy and eat whatever the fuck he wants, and won’t stop buying clothes. I literally had to ask people on Instagram to buy my cats food because she wasn’t going to fucking do it. I want to scream at her so badly. She doesn’t even care that I’m in eating disorder recovery, that I have ARFID which makes this situation even worse. I mean, I guess, what should I expect from the woman who literally starved me when I was a child because of having an eating disorder? I just can’t believe I’m in this fucked up situation. I want a way out so badly, and there is none in sight, save for… well… Yeah. Fuck my life.

[mishafletcher]

hi, and welcome to the 'frequently asked questions about cooking is terrible' post! some of these are scattered in other places around my blog, but i figured i'd collect them for ease of reading. if you want to read the promo post about the book, you can go here.

as always, purchase links are collected here, or you can go directly to the amazon listing.

is cooking actually terrible/how can you say you hate cooking/cooking is an art form and you're disrespecting it see, the thing here is that i'm actually a good cook! i've cooked for a living before, i'll happily pull together a meal for fifty with twenty-four hour notice, and i love a cooking project. i love cooking for community. what i fucking hate, though, is having to somehow produce food for myself, and then consume it, multiple times a day, every day, for apparently the entire rest of my life.

some people love cooking, and i genuinely admire you. sometimes i don't mind it or even enjoy it, and on those nights, i don't need this book. sometimes i'm too tired or in too much pain or too busy playing a video game or too depressed, though, and the idea of spending thirty minutes making food i don't care about makes me want to walk into the sea, and on those days, yeah, cooking is terrible.

is this book vegetarian friendly? yes! there are a handful of recipes where the point of it is meat, but probably 90% of the book is either vegetarian or has options to make it vegetarian. i was a vegetarian for about a decade, and still tend not to cook a ton of meat because the cost of messing it up is so high. there are a number of recipes that call for things like 'chunks of chicken or tofu', but tofu is cheap and delicious, so i'm just as likely to use that as i am chicken.

is this book vegan friendly? maybe. if you're comfortable with things like vegan cheese and plant-based yogurt, the answer is probably yes. the biggest issue for vegans will be dairy, but there are a lot of good vegan dairy replacements out there.

is this book friendly for [basically any other dietary restrictions]? yes again! everything is designed to be pretty flexible. if you're comfortable with the basics how to substitute things for your specific needs, you should be fine with this. (by 'basics of how to substitute', i mean 'tamari instead of soy sauce' or 'gluten-free noodles' or 'sunflower seed butter instead of peanut butter' level of substitutions.) i have severe food allergies, so am very much on board the substitutions train.

is this book useful for people with chronic pain and/or mental health issues? you are very literally the target audience, because i, too, am a disabled person with chronic pain and adhd and other assorted mental health issues. when i started writing this book, it wasn't a book—it was a text file that i could read over when my brain wasn't working well enough to provide me with instructions for complex tasks such as 'make sandwich'.

is this useful for people living in [almost literally anywhere in the world]? unless you live in a place where you can't buy staple foods like rice, beans, and vegetables, it's probably useful. i've personally bought everything mentioned in the cookbook at stores in the us and australia, and have also checked availability at tesco and rewe. there are sometimes minor differences in what things are called, and occasionally one thing or the other is entirely unavailable, but probably 99% of ingredients can be easily purchased in most supermarkets.

do i need to have fancy appliances for this to be useful? hard no. there is zero slow cooker, instant pot, stand mixer, or even rice cooker content in this.

i assume that you have a knife, a bowl, and a source of heat. some things are easier (or nicer) if you also have a $20 immersion blender (mine's from kmart), but that's as fancy as we're getting. i wanted to keep the barrier to food as low as possible.

is it easy to modify recipes in this? yes, and a bunch of recipes are either lists of suggestions (sandwiches! rice toppings!) or have variations listed.

what kind of recipes are in this book? there's a range of them.

stuff that needs no cooking at all—sandwiches, dips, smoothies, salads, etc.

bowls of stuff: pasta, rice, soups you can make in ten to fifteen minutes, oats, etc. using ready-cooked rice or pasta is 100% fine by me, so this focuses pretty heavily on quick and easy toppings.

stuff you cook while you watch netflix, like 'throw this into the oven and then ignore it for an hour'. more importantly, lists of ideas for how to use the things you cooked.

baking and desserts, none of which require more than about five minutes of hands-on work.

if this list is insufficiently convincing, i've also put up a couple example recipes here.

which storefront/format is best? honestly and truly, on my end, it doesn't matter that much—after various fees and things come out, it's within about 50c of each other for ebooks, and maybe a dollar for physical books. amazon currently nets me slightly more than other retailers, but that's changed in the past and will likely change again.

on your end, amazon is probably the cheapest way to get a print copy (and—in the interest of full disclosure—is slightly more money for me, as well). amazon's printing costs are significantly less than anyone else's are, so the book is cheaper there.

why are there so many price points? this is partly because publishing at this point is several business models in a trenchcoat, and partly because retailers can set their own prices and discounts. if you see very low prices, especially at big vendors like amazon, they've decided it's worth it to sell the book at a loss. i have no idea why, but i get the same royalties from it.

if you see very high price points—like $40+ for the paperback version—it's because the vendor is using a traditional-publishing business model and pricing accordingly. please do not buy this book for forty dollars. anywhere in north america and europe, the paperback should be between 10 and 20 of the local currency (dollar, pound, or euro); australians might see it as high as $22 because it costs more to have things printed here.

i want to reiterate: please do not buy this book for many tens of dollars. one, maybe two tens, fine. but forty is as many as four tens, and that's terrible.

is there a print version of this book? i used to get this a lot, and then there was an amazon-only paperback version and i got it less, and now there's a paperback version that you should be able to buy anywhere you buy books.

worth noting is that the available print versions are not spiral bound. if you would like a spiral bound copy and you feel strongly enough about this that you'd like to have it printed and bound yourself, the digital versions (most usefully the pdf from gumroad) have an explicit 'please feel free to print or have this printed' release.

and again—because i get called out for this not infrequently—purchase links are collected here, or you can go directly to the amazon listing.

[trannydean-moved]

something that really upsets me is when people don't take their friends' or families' food allergies/intolerances into consideration when they're dealing with food. i myself have none, but my dad has a lethal intolerance to gluten due to his many health problems, as well as a lesser intolerance of dairy and many other things. we're unable to keep gluten in the house. my dad can't even smell it in the air without getting sick. we have to go to great lengths to make sure we don't somehow cross contaminate anything--we spray down our groceries with vinegar before putting em away, anyone who comes to our house has to spray their hands of, if any of us go anywhere and touch anything, we have to spray our hands off. my mom literally had to come up with so many ways to convert regular meals into gluten and dairy free varieties. it was extremely difficult at first, but she's literally a genius for being able to do all she's done to make sure we can all eat together, and eat good food. so when i see people who have food allergies or intolerances and their family and friends don't care enough to be fucking normal about it. we barely have anyone over and no one in the household have many friends anymore because no one wants to go through the hassle of taking my dad's condition into consideration. i have kinda accepted this since it's been like this for us for so long. but i see other people talk about how their families don't give a shit about their condition. and it upsets me so much because my guy??? this is shit the person can't help whatsoever. just have some human decency, get your head out of your ass, and take the person's needs into consideration.

[kintatsujo]

The worst part about how hard food allergens are to avoid in the US market is food allergies and sensitivities really are just scary, though

I can eat eggs but they have to be cooked a certain way and can't be too high in sulfates

One time before I'd really figured this out I happened to have a quiche for lunch

And my left leg went weird and dead feeling from my hip down about an hour later, like if you just filled it with mercury and told me to keep walking on it

I stopped eating strawberries after having an anaphylactic reaction in my throat, which meant I couldn't breathe or swallow right (fortunately it was mild by comparison)

Found out I can't eat cashews anymore by paying for it with a week of miserable stomach pains

Dairy is my mildest one but sometimes it flares up when I'm in the middle of eating and I just break into a sweat out of nowhere, like I'm having an anxiety attack

And none of my food allergies are the kind that just drop you dead

All you can think is "this is supposed to be a social bonding activity and it's supposed to nourish me, not fucking kill me" but there you are, eating celery plain in the next room while the other kids have peanut butter

Like it just sucks, guys, I can't even count all the ways it sucks, I don't even have it that bad compared to other people.

And then the food market makes it desperately difficult to avoid most of these foods and the alternatives cost twice to five times as much as what everyone else gets to eat.

[talisidekick]

Having food allergies is a disability. I will not budge from this.

For 24 years of my life, despite having to be bottle fed specific formula as a baby because I had a massive near-death allergic reaction to breast milk, my mom decided it was okay to feed me cows milk and tell me nothing. I had seizures as a toddler, constant diarrhea my whole life, and I needed to use the bathroom withing 15-20 minutes if I ate anything, and not once did my parents tell me I was allergic to milk. They assumed I'd "grow out of it". At 12 I started getting hives reactions doctors couldn't explain. And 12 years later after taking a fucking allergy test after insisting and requesting it myself because the doctor claimed it was "just IBS", I learned I had a dairy allergy. And my mother let me know she fucking knew.

To this day, if I eat anything that has milk or has made contact with a milk ingredient of any animal, it's excruciating pain and agony. It makes me want to die. This means I can't eat out at most restaurants unless the entire menu is milk ingredient free. I can't eat any of the foods listed as irritating to people with IBS because I've fucked up my stomach and intestinal tract for 24 years. The "may contain" section listing milk is a gamble. And if a restaurants fries are cooked in the same oil as their milk-based breadded chicken strips ... I can't eat fries.

Literally, this makes my life, and the lives of those around me, my friends and chosen family, more difficult because it's so EASY for them to just pick a place to eat, and go, but I have to spend an hour looking at the menu, at the ingredients list, and even look up how things are cooked before I can go. This limits me to one or two dishes at places if I'm lucky. Sometimes, if it's a split-second decision, I don't eat.

I'm tired of people treating everything shy of nut allergies as something just inconvenient. Like it's "just an allergy". No it's fucking detrimental. I need people to understand that pain isn't "inconvenient", it's fucking pain.

And for the millionth damn time: no, I'm not lactose fucking intolerant. Lactaids don't work. It's a dairy allergy. There's a fucking difference.

[archaeolitikum]

generally i think the eu taking precautions with the kind of food companies can sell, the way they market their products etc is good and whatnot but one thing that really makes me roll my eyes is the way theyve been trying to make it so meat free and dairy free products cant use the same names like "milk" or "sausage" because it would be "confusing to consumers and costumers". full offence but if you see a carton of something that clearly says OAT MILK on it but you ignore the oat part and go grab the thing in a full blown milk frenzy, black out, and wake up at home only to realise the oat milk is in fact made from oats and not from a cow then i think thats on you buddy. costumers and consumers have to have some personal responsibility while buying shit sorry its not that difficult.

its extra annoying because the eu actively want to meet our goals about the climate and that includes encouraging people to eat more food that has a lesser impact on the environment and yet they make it extra difficult for the companies to just sell normal food made from plants by forcing them to come up with weird stupid terms instead of just using the language that we are already using for it. everyone KNOWS oat milk isnt actually milk but calling it oat beverage or oat liquid is ridiculous. making plant based food more alien by changing the language around it probably wont help anyone. i dont think calling a burger made from peas "plantbased/vegan/pea/soy burger" is confusing anyone. and if allergy is a concern, allergic people already fucking know to read the ingredients! allergens (like soy!!!) are always underlined anyway and allergics already knooooow to check it you sillies.

if i can check the ingredients of something to make sure i can and want to eat it then i dont think its impossible for everyone else to realise oat milk is actually not real milk and the milk part is just a descriptor for the products general purpose you know

[artforsimps]

Do vegans think we’ll just make a big grave yard for animals that died at old age? Do they think we’ll rip up forests and dig individual graves for each animal on earth with a head stone? They’d love that. They already don’t have a problem with habitats and rainforests being ruined for agave and whatever vegan “alternative” is popular. They don’t even bother with the cruelty of humanity being abused to produce their almond milk and raw sugar and chocolate

When do we stop farming? We make enough food to feed everyone on earth as is the only thing stopping us is the price. When we stop farming animals there won’t be leather that will last decades compared to fast fashion coats that rip within a single year of ownership. We won’t have wool either. What will they feed their precious rescue animals? Or should they be let loose to rip up some wild animals for fun? Loose dogs probably cause more harm to farm animals than the fucking butcher. A dog will get in the pen running around ripping out fur until they find one weak enough that they can tear into. They won’t even eat it. It’s entertaining for pets. The farmer is forced to kill the dog so it won’t get loose again because the owner won’t discipline it. Sure the dairy industry has its faults it produces green house gases and there are bad farmers but the same goes for the vegan food industry. who’s going to root for the vegan calling for the starvation of species and supports pets which literally kills hundreds of animals a year. When should vegans stop the death of animals? It’s part of a natural cycle. We’re born, we work, we eat, we die and mushrooms eat us. Animals are born they make milk they have kids they die we eat them then we die. Our pets eat meat and they can’t eat anything other than that and live off of it. Eating vegetables would make them slowly starve to death. A pet would eat their dead owner out of desperation we can’t just feed them every dead person on earth they’d get sick and die. By regulation and rules around raising and eventual humane slaughter we reduce suffering. Meat is a way of life.

Don’t even get me started on how vegans appropriate cultural foods as alternatives or hop onto whatever knew food is cool and claiming they invented it or how exclusionary it is for people with allergies or eating disorders or the fat phobia and entitled-ness or the wealth gap from how expensive their appropriation makes everyday food.

Mug you wnat to reduce harm to animals raise them yourself so you aren’t the one creating a demand for abuse or sorce your products through your own research. If you wnat happy chicken eggs raid happy chickens they’ll lay as much eggs as they are wel taken care of. Take. A class on how to butcher humanely without drawing it out. Use every part of the animal. Leather can last shears longer than plastic. Sheeting wool in the summer prevent heatstroke on sheep and creates sustainable clothing or even wall insulation. Milk can make cheese and butter to use as fat in cooking just like animal fat can be used kn cooking without needing to grow large plots of land for oil. Properly rendered tallow can moisturize the skin and be used for soap. Tools made form bone get stronger with age. Thousands of cultures have used bone tools for centuries for a reason. Plastic lasts for ever but breaks in a week. Bones are found thousands of years after the animal dies just imagine how long it could last after being processed into a tool. We have tools named after the use of bone as a material form how will it works like bone folders. If you want to be sustainable be sustainable but don’t creat an entire hierarchy of something as important as food to feel good about yourselves. It’s behind pay walls, it’s inaccessible to people with multiple allergies or eating disorders. Grandma and grandpa can’t raise a hoe and sow corn to survive winter. Don’t tell people they should starve because they can’t afford to and aren’t physically able to reach your “moral” high ground.

Build a fucking homestead and leave us alone

[female-malice]

If switching from milk to soy milk too quickly can fuck you up years later then maybe animal products are a bit more important than you're making them out to be. If veganism is so healthy, it would be no problem to switch over instantly. I wasn't eating too little, the only time I lost weight was the first year when I was still figuring things out. Not eating candy is not having a bad relationship with food, I had a bad relationship with food when I struggled with sugar addiction and eating junk food, which I resolved before I even went vegan. I understand that most people think sugar is only harmful if you eat it to excess, but I can't limit myself when I'm craving sugar and not eating it in deserts (fruit, carbs, etc. are all fine though) is the only way to avoid cravings.

I obviously did not start escalating my iron intake or over using iron supplements until after I was anemic and I started getting desperate, why would you assume that I was just randomly drinking extra iron for no reason? Is it so hard to believe that I might have issues absorbing non heme iron, the type of iron that is known for being more difficult to absorb? You don't have to nitpick everything I say. I was vegan, I know it's easier to say that everyone who fails at veganism is doing something wrong than to acknowledge that it's not for everyone. It's also very easy to give into survivorship bias, to point to all the vegans who have been vegan for a long time and are healthy, as if they'd still be vegan if their health flagged.

Veganism is not a diet optimized for health. If you have to supplement anything because your diet is lacking, your diet is not based on health, your diet can't even fulfill your body's basic requirements. No, veganism is not a diet of the body, it was not designed based on research to find the optimal diet. Veganism is a diet of the mind. Many people go vegan because they care about animals, or the environment, they don't say that veganism is healthy because it's true, they say veganism is healthy because they want it to be true. I remember lying to people in the name of veganism. Motive overrides logic because it must, because if I was honest with myself, I would have stopped being vegan long before I quit.

I never said switching from dairy to soy quickly is unhealthy. I said you're supposed to replace one food product at a time. First dairy. Then eggs. Then beef. Then chicken and poultry. Then fish.

You're not supposed to change your diet completely to a bunch of new foods all at once. That's true regardless of what kind of change you're making. The reason you're supposed to do gradual change is to check for allergies and bad reactions to new foods.

You have a strange relationship with food. So I understand this anti-vegan rant is your special thing that you like to engage in. But lying about veganism is just a weird look, honestly. You claim there are no health benefits for anyone when that's easy to prove false. So next time you dump your anti-vegan rant in someone's inbox, be more strategic about your approach.

If you want to spend your time campaigning for people to eat meat, enjoy a future with no functioning antibiotics. Cheers.

[thevoidisscreamingbackatyou]

this is SO fucking important. i remember seeing this post a few years ago and being horrified.

To add on another story to the many here; my parent has chronic gastritis, so basically their stomach makes too much acid.

They can't eat gluten, dairy, tomatoes, onions, etc and they're vegetarian. Sometimes they can't even eat vegan food.

And the problem is, that literally everyone we know just says "oh, they can take medicine and be fine, just eat what you want" and then there are also times where their food restrictions have simply been ignored and they can't eat *anything*.

If they do, they get migraines and can't get out of bed for days. Hell, once they fainted and had a huge lump on their head and we had to take them to the doctor it was *fucked*.

Don't ignore food restrictions or allergies or diets. It's fucked up, not funny. You don't know people's stories or lives.

DO NOT DO THIS.

This makes me so angry.

If you work in a movie theater and you do this I have no respect for you.

My younger brother is Type 1 Diabetic.

When we go to a movie theater, we always get him diet soda. If he were to get regular when we asked for diet, we would not give him the insulin he would need for it. If that happens, his blood sugar level could go so high he could go into a coma, go blind, or even die.

If somebody gave him regular soda instead of diet without telling us, that person could be responsible for a nine-year-old being killed or blinded.

Just thinking about that makes me so angry. I get scared every time we take him to a movie in case the people working there saw this picture and decide to do the same thing.

Please signal boost this so people know.

[glorioustidalwavedefendor]

Eating at the Raglan Road Irish Pub & Restaurant in October with her husband and mother-in-law, Jackie Piccolo, court documents claim she told staff of her severe nut and dairy allergies multiple times, with them reassuring her they could make some of the food allergen-free. They got confirmation that the food would be safe to eat numerous times, the lawsuit said: “When the waiter returned with [Tangsuan’s] food, some of the items did not have allergen-free flags in them and [Tangsuan] and [Piccolo] once again questioned the waiter who, once again, guaranteed the food being delivered to [Tangsuan] was allergen free.” Shortly after finishing their meals, Piccolo went back to their hotel room while his wife and mother went shopping. After splitting up to go into different stores with the intention of meeting up afterwards, Tangsuan collapsed on a shop floor struggling for breath, around 45 minutes after having eaten. She self-administered an epi-pen before she was rushed to hospital, but tragically died. According to the legal suit, her death was confirmed by a medical examiner “as a result of anaphylaxis due to elevated levels of dairy and nut in her system.”

-> And that is the reason why it's NEVER O.K. to just give someone allergic, something they told they are allergic against just to "proof" they are making a big deal

that's why I want to fuck staff with a chainsaw if they don't comply with allergic accomodation

which seems to be very common

-> This isn't the first story like that I heard though I think the first one with a murder

becaue there are people out there who think they can decide who does and doe snot look like they are allergic

and like

“When the waiter returned with [Tangsuan’s] food, some of the items did not have allergen-free flags

so the kicthen staff made VERY sure to comunicate that it was not safe to eat

but the waiting stuff just decided that they knew better

FUCK THEM

I mean fuck disney sure, they are the worst

But also fuck this waiter in particular becasue they are a murderer and I hope they never again find peace

Like I bet they watched her eat, and since she didnt have an imidiate reaction they where like, see? made a big deal about nothing

they don't understand that you can have a reaction up to 48 hours after eating something you are allergic to

AND THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T GET TO MAKE THAT CALL