#7x01 discussion

[poirott]

With @john-deco's permission, I'm adding a little domestic scene to the "Vegetable Marrows AU": Suchet's Poirot and Branagh's Poirot are tending to the garden and everything is going well, until THERE IS A SLUG, oh no! Suchet's Poirot has some advice on keeping pests away from their prized vegetables:

Different Poirots retiring together and trying out new hobbies (with varying levels of success) gives me warm, cozy feelings. Thank You, @john-deco, for the perfect fanart! <3

(Advice is from this How to Control Slugs and Snails article. :))

Two Poirots converse while three other Poirots tend to their unique agricultural endeavors.

A silly little AU concept returns.

[sibylsleaves]

Ooh about your tags saying Buck is never able to ask Eddie out and Eddie has asked multiple times - Buck follows Eddie's cues and only takes charge when Eddie is incapacitated. He literally does this with touch too, the only times he reaches out and touches like he has a right is when Eddie is in danger. He'll ask him to places like 7x01 the go kart thing, but he won't walk in and tell him to dress up like Eddie did with the poker night. ALSO evident in how they use their keys, Buck doesn't use his Diaz house key unless someone calls him for an emergency but Eddie used it to get Buck off his bed in 3x01.

uhfruehjhfghjghbhhhbh you're SO RIGHT. (and thank you for responding to the discussion questions).

the way buck treats eddie vs the way eddie treats buck is a subject of endless fascination for me because on the one hand they're both so CLEARLY each other's person but there's like a total certainty/surety to it on Eddie's side that just...doesn't exist on Buck's side by virtue of how his abandonment issues manifest.

This is also, I suspect, where a lot of the "Buck and Eddie are one-sided (on Buck's side)" ideas start. Because Buck IS the one who's often unsure of their relationship but it has literally nothing to do with how Eddie treats him and EVERYTHING to do with how Buck struggles to trust his own worth and his place in people's lives. And Eddie literally has told him and shown him over and over and over and over there are literally SO many instances of it, almost every major moment between them is, in some way, Eddie reassuring Buck of his importance in Eddie's life. and like the crazy insane part is that Eddie isn't ever like ugh, can't believe I gotta tell this guy how much he means to me AGAIN why doesn't he GET IT. He's just like 🥰🥰🥰🥰 can't wait to tell Buck how much i need him and care about him and want to spend time with him and have him raise my son with me and dress up with him!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰

which, okay. is WHY im back to a Buck should confess first mindset. Because you're RIGHT he is always just following Eddie's cues and how AMAZING would it be for him for the FIRST TIME reach out and actually ask for something he wants from Eddie without knowing if Eddie's gonna meet him there. but being able to trust that no matter what happens Eddie really, truly, isn't going anywhere. UGH.

[buckleyanddiaz]

it still spins in my mind that in 7x01 Eddie was initially saying he's got a date to chaperone and trying hard to be casual when he asked maybe Buck should take Natalia go-karting. but the minute Buck said they had broken up and explained why, Eddie becomes warmer. his expressions, his fondness, everything becomes warmer. and in their very next scene together we see him happily discuss Chris' dating issue like a coparent. we watched Eddie tug on their soulmate bond in real-time like he was just waiting for Buck to be out of his death's extension.

[extasiswings]

Also idk if it’s a timing and scheduling thing or they just didn’t have the room for it but I find it odd that Eddie has been with Marisol for how long now? And we’ve had no significant scenes with them two at all. Like Tommy showed up swept Buck off his feet and smooched his ass in like an ep or 2. But like we’ve seen crickets from Eddie and Marisol. the story has to be that they’re gonna eventually break up because truly and honestly what has there been that would even have us remotely root for them lol. And she’s definitely showing up next episode but I sincerely doubt that they’ll be able to get people on that train. Which brings me back to the point that we are not supposed to think that they last because genuinely why would they

Yeah, not to put too fine a point on it, but regardless of how compressed a timeframe they're working with, if they wanted us to care then they would be trying to make us care, and they just aren't. If her coming back in 7x05 was intended to be anything other than the beginning of the end for them (and if this was intended to actually be a relationship instead of a plot device for Eddie's development), they would have made at least a bare minimum of effort to reintroduce her and their relationship. They could have given her more than a one line drive-by appearance in 7x01, but they didn't. And that's not because they didn't have the time, no, it's just that they made a choice to dedicate a solid 1/3 of the episode instead to Buck/Eddie/Christopher and Shannon, which basically tells the audience "this woman doesn't matter, but these relationships over here, those are the ones that are important." Eddie mentions that Marisol watched Chris twice while he was out with Tommy, but similarly, Buck finds that entirely nonthreatening - Chris spending time with Tommy and thinking he's cool though? That sent Buck into a whole spiral. Also similarly, Eddie's relationship with Tommy has had more screentime and development than his relationship with Marisol. And yes, that's partly because it was key to Buck's bisexuality arc, but still - it's signaling what they care about and what the audience is supposed to care about. And right now, Eddie's new friendship with Tommy - shown through both screentime and discussions of their shared interests - is substantially more believable than his relationship with Marisol who we don't know anything about as a person let alone anything about their relationship. Which...considering the title of 7x05 is "You Don't Know Me," I have an inkling we're going to find out that Eddie knows about as much about his own girlfriend of several months as the audience does. A whole lot of nothing meaningful. And if it seems at all like Eddie's just going through the motions or has doubts? There's no coming back from that when the audience doesn't care about her in the first place. So, yeah, even if it takes a few more episodes, they're donezo.

[mayasdeluca]

Danielle discussing the Marina kiss in 7x01

[raayllum]

New podcast ep about Dreamer's Nightmare and 7x01 details from NYCC!

[presumeddeaddie]

I think one major thing people don't recognize is that Buck actually has learnt what being a parent is. This shows so clearly in the Connor-Kameron arc when Kameron comes stays with him after the couple have a fight. Connor wants to become a dad but Buck reminds him that he has to BE a parent. Being a parent is about sticking through the tough times and doing whatever your kid and partner need in those times. Buck stepped up then too while Connor came in after the baby was born and just got to bask in becoming a dad. Even Natalia observes this whole thing. This is the thing that Buck does for Chris - he shows up whenever needed. And he shows up fully willing to take every step needed. He STAYS through the problem till things are okay. He shares the good and bad times, engages in Chris' likes (the games and discussion about Star Wars movies and regular zoo trips), is invested in the school activities and other childhood development (the summer camp and the dating talk and the 7x01 thing). Buck grew into the role by trying over and over. I'm already betting that he's going to be involved even more in S8.

no notes tbh. this was *chef’s kiss* mwah mwah EXACTLY

[dangerpronebuddie]

(Hold onto your hoola hoops, folks, I wrote this at 2am after a paper that fought me tooth and nail, so if it makes no sense I'm sorry 😁)

Okay. I can't stop thinking we're in for some Eddie whump. (The whumper in me says we're overdue pero ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ that's beside the point). Anyway. The foreshadowing has been in the making since 4x14, and with them discussing that arc so much, I can't help feeling like they'll bring up something about it. (Under the cut, cause this gets a bit long)

This show doesn't often leave storylines open, so addressing the will again is inevitable. But what would prompt it? Eddie thinks Buck understands it (he doesn't), so why would they need to bring it up again?

They promoted Chris/ Gavin along with the main cast. No other kids were. So why?

You could argue the 7x01 storyline was the reason behind it, but I don't think that line is completely done. The premieres usually foreshadow some events through the season. Bringing up Shannon not only gives new viewers a glimpse into the Diaz boys and their trauma, it sets up something they'll revisit. She's been mentioned a few times throughout the season, and having her be a part of the guilt storyline makes perfect sense and is absolutely beautiful.

Eddie still holds this guilt about their relationship. All these if onlys. He's come a long way in his healing and growth, but it isn't linear, and that loss will never completely heal. He's still looking for that magic, that deep love he had (and still has) for her. He can't move past the guilt he feels about it all.

A coma dream of his own, or some kind of hallucinations, would be the perfect way to get him to forgive himself. How we get there? I'm not 100% sure. But I have some ideas!

1. Trapped dads (thank Anna)

@lover-of-mine can explain it so much better, but we've been rooting for this for ages. We thought they were going to drown Buck this season, but it doesn't look like they're going that way. So, we thought about flipping the scenario. Eddie is the one gravely injured, not Buck. Aborted confession? Possibly! Buck being the sole parent while Eddie is in the hospital? Absolutely. It would bring about so many possibilities. Eddie wouldn't confess to Buck as he was dying, he wouldn't make Buck carry that. But Buck might confess to Eddie as Eddie is dying so he knows he'll die loved. When he saves Eddie (desperate CPR when???) they have to live with what was said in the moment. Even better if Eddie is in a coma afterwards. Bonus points if they're still in their relationships through it all. Mutual pining anyone? Buck will be taking care of Chris in the midst of it all, possibly revealing to T and M that the will exists. The season ends with Eddie awake and healing, knowing how Buck feels. He of course won't say anything because they're still dating other people. Allows for a LOT of pining through s8.

2. Hallucinations (thanks Saturn)

I hadn't really considered this possibility, but @steadfastsaturnsrings brought up a great idea. I tried to find out the specific episode that takes place in the desert, but as far as I've found, they haven't specified. I'm assuming 7x07. Since 7x07 is Ghost of a Second Chance, Shannon could be appearing in that one. And if 7x07 is the one in the desert, then there's a lot of possibilities there too. Heatstroke or snake bite... either could cause hallucinations. Since the writer for 7x07 is likely Taylor Wong (wrote 6x15) then some Eddie and Shannon angst is definitely possible. Any way we look at this, the will could factor in. Eddie can't care for Chris, so Buck steps in. I think something happening in the desert could add some visions focused around his service and we get some very Eddie Begins type scenes that maybe show more positive calls between Eddie and Shannon. We could also possibly get a callback to 6x15 and Eddie's fear of dying alone (and having Buck there with him would prove him wrong. Wishful thinking).

3. God only knows

He gets trapped in a collapsed building? T involved? Sinkhole? Some kind of blood loss? We don't know! But I do know that Juan Carlos Coto usually writes huge episodes for Bobby, Eddie, and Buck (3x09, 4x05, 5x13, 5x16, 6x10 just to name a few). And since he's writing 7x08, which is titled Step Nine, the guilt and Shannon could happen there too. I mentioned in another post (which I can't find, naturally) that Step Nine in AA means making amends, no matter what. So, while Bobby is likely making amends with Amir, Eddie is making amends with himself, Shannon, and his guilt surrounding it. (There's a possible firepilot storyline there, depending on how 7x06 goes but I won't get into that rn).

Any way it goes, Shannon appearing, especially appearing older, will show Eddie all those if onlys he's been dwelling on. It will show him how different his life could've been (parallel to 6x11) and it will show him he hasn't failed. He has nothing to feel guilty about. He's not going to find what he had with Shannon. But he can find something just as deep and meaningful. And it's something Shannon (his subconscious) has to show him. Something he has to figure out on his own, like he usually does. No outside force is going to push him past it, no matter how hard he tries.

Perhaps in that dream/ hallucination, he'll realize he's not a commitment phobe, he's not a failure, he's not a sinner doomed to hell. He's human, and he's found love he's not allowing himself to feel.

Feelings realization (or more acceptance of those feelings) and some delicious pining is imminent. How we get to it? I'm not sure. They usually repeat kinds of injuries so I'm leaning more towards trapping him somewhere, but I love the idea of a snake bite. It's happening to someone, based on the fact they had dangerous reptiles on set (or a prop for it). Any way it happens, it'll be amazing, especially if this happens with it.

[mattoidmeerkat]

This is me working through my main issues with Bathena in 7x01. If you have no issues with the transition from 6x18 to 7x01, I'm happy for you and there's nothing to see here. If you'd do see some issues and/or are willing to help me work through some of them, please continue reading after the cut.

Disclaimer: The long hiatus and my recent cold definitely did not positively influence my experience. I'm aware of this.

Man, I'm so conflicted about Bathena's story in 7x01. I mean, the acting was top notch. The scenes and dialogue? Instant classics. The dancing? Swoooon. And we finally get to explore the foundation of their relationship? What's not to love?

Well, this really feels like the perfect follow up to Season 4. They had just addressed their communications issues and still had topics to work through. They would soon be empty nesters and didn't know how that would impact them.

But this isn't the beginning of Season 5. This is Season 7. Since then we have seen Athena and Bobby go through so much separately and together. They have grown closer and have developed their communication skills and the foundation of their relationship.

They struggled together and supported each other through the Hudson ordeal and the fallout around Harry in 5A. We've seen them make time to focus on their intimate relationship (5x09, 6x13) and to sharing personal history (5x15, 6x02, 6x03, 6x13) and support each other through oh so much personal trauma (5A, 5x14, 5x16, 5x17, 6x02, 6x03, 6x09, 6x12, 6x17). They've put the other's happiness before their own without a moment's hesitation (5x05) and developed a deep and easy intimacy with each other (5x08, 5x09, 5x11, 5x15, 5x17, 6x02, 6x08, 6x12, 6x13, 6x17) without ever losing their individuality in the process. Athena built a relationship with Bobby's sponsor and Bobby shared his AA world with her. Athena allowed herself to be vulnerable with him by admitting fears while she developed a deep understanding of how Bobby worked on a fundamental level (6x14).

And then Tim came back and decided nope, none of this. Gonna reset Athena to Season 4 (when he left as showrunner) and leave Bobby as confused as me.

I love me some good angst and conflict to explore characters and their dynamics. But what explanation were we given for this drastic change in Athena's personality? She is afraid to find out who they are when it's just the two of them? Which we have just seen again and again in Season 5 but much more so in Season 6?

Characters being flawed and acting irrationally is not bad writing. On the contrary, it can be excellent writing because flawless characters are boring and bland. And Athena and Bobby are so deliciously flawed. Have been from the very beginning.

So why not provide us with an explanation for how 6x18 Athena went from happy and confident in her marriage after settling into her empty nest with Bobby for a year, to the neurotic mess we see in 7x01? (A highly entertaining and cute mess, but still a completely different Athena than literally one episode before.)

How did 6x18 Athena, after recently celebrating her fourth wedding anniversary with Bobby and saving him from a bridge collapse, from one moment to the other decide to go to therapy (something she canonically avoids like the plague - see Seasons 3, 4, and 5) and do a 180 on cruises (despite copious discussions of cruises her fear did not come up with Bobby in 5x18, 6x01 or 6x18, with May in 6x01, or with Hen in 6x01, or in the conversation about cruises with her parents in 6x01 despite those two apparently being responsible for that fear)? How did that Athena then board the cruise with Bobby at the end of 6x18 full of joy and happy anticipation after a last minute cancellation? And how did Athena then manage to have a therapist appointment about the last-minute cruise two months in advance somehow?

I'd love to find some explanations for this beyond sloppy writing at best and blatant disregard for the prior story lines at worst.

At this point my only hope is that the next two episodes will shed some light onto what exactly triggered Athena's abrupt change in personality from one episode to the other. (actually retroactively within the previous episode somehow) But I won't get my hopes up too much because so many of Athena's, Bobby's and Bathena's story lines have been left to fizzle out without any kind of explanation or resolutions over the years (under both Tim and Kirsten).

So what's my takeaway here? I desperately want to love this episode. It has so many amazing scenes. But the retconning is making it really difficult for me to process as a coherent story line. And that's on me. Shows do this all the time. THIS show has done it plenty of times in the past.

But I feel so sad that I seem to care more about Season 5 and 6 Bathena than the show itself. It feels dismissive of the growth those two have gone through. And it makes me fearful of what kind of disregard the show might display towards these characters, their arcs, and their growth journeys in the future.

Thoughts? Helpful ideas? Number of a good therapist? 😅️ (One that doesn't just say "I'm sure you'll be fine.")

[eugeniedanglars]

oliver stark has chosen violence in every single interview this week so i felt the need to type up a summary:

a queer buck storyline was discussed/planned a few years ago and he was on board but then some higher power than the writers shot it down

even after the original queer buck storyline was shot down, he always kept it in mind as something they might get to come back to one day

he's been more conscious of buck's sexuality since season 4. he didn't technically confirm that season 4 was when the original queer buck storyline was pitched (though imo it's a reasonable conclusion to come to)

"i see what everybody else sees. like, i watch the same show. i don't think that the buddie fans are wrong."

he was planning to play buck like he was having a bisexual awakening this season regardless of whether the writers decided to go there (we already knew this but it's worth reiterating). he also said this immediately after saying the above ("i don't think that the buddie fans are wrong. so i decided this year...")

he has watched buddie fan edits that he's found very compelling and have made him cry in the shower

both he *and* ryan pulled back on interacting with buddie fan content out of concern that they were queerbaiting, but they've since relaxed on that a bit because their job is just to make the most authentic show possible with the material given to them and not worry about managing audience expectations

he's on board with buddie if the writers decide to make eddie canonically queer but he's also enjoying the bucktommy storyline a lot (again, we already knew this but it's worth reiterating)

he and tim minear discussed the possibility that buck was 👀 in 7x01 when he thought that eddie had broken up with marisol and was going on a first date with someone else

he thinks it's very plausible (eta: which a few sentences later he upgraded to "definitely") that buck was attracted to eddie in their first episode together and didn't realize it so he misinterpreted it as jealousy

[tiva-fic-challenges]

The September challenge is getting close! ❤️ We're very excited to dive into such a special TIVA episode. 🎶 "Like we were in Paris"...

Are you struggling to come up with fic ideas? We have prompt suggestions and ways you could explore this! Have fun with it!

🛏️ "The One-Bed trope"

By the end of the episode, the audience realizes both Tony and Ziva lied about who took the couch. But what really happened? Did they fight to get the one bed? Or did they silently agree to it? Was it funny or vulnerable? We'd love to know!

✈️ "The Before-Sunrise trope"

Having to stay the night in France to escort their witness the next day, the audience realizes both Tony and Ziva spent a whole night alone in Paris. What did they talk about? Did they see any sights? What changed them? Romance in the city of love!

🥐 "The Casablanca trope"

Only one night? Scrap that! What would happen if Tony and Ziva had more time in Paris, now knowing they couldn't live without each other? La Marseillaise plays in the background... And Rick and Isla stay together in our version 😌 Change the story!

🔥 "The Forced-Proximity trope"

So, there's only one room available and only one bed... And could you please not sleep shirtless? Why are your pajamas so flimsy in the middle of the European winter? And... is that your hand under the covers? We like heat! Write about it ;)

🦴 "The Skeletons-In-Our-Closets trope"

Jet Lag 7x13 happens right after Tony and Ziva overcome what happened in 7x01 in Somalia. But is everything truly resolved? These are complex, I-can't-talk-about-it characters. They can't help but worry about each other. Make them talk!

💌 "The Elizabeth-Bennet trope"

We discover later in the series that Ziva has a habit of writing about a lot of canon events in her diaries. There surely must have been an entry about Paris in them, must have not? What was she thinking during their stay there? Be her outlet!

🛵 "The Back-To-The-Future trope"

Discuss Paris. Tony has an entry on his bucket list that we never got to see: why would he need to later discuss it with Ziva? In Paris, it's difficult not to be in love. Well, now's the time! Be their genie inside the lamp, grant him this wish!

📸 "The Family-Heirloom trope"

Years later, Tali may ask about what that Ziva in Paris photo meant. We know it was Tony's favorite picture—the only one with someone in it. But what about the others? What memories do they guard? Tell Tali the secrets Tony and Ziva still hold dearly!

more information about the September TIVA fic writing challenge is in our pinned post! have fun with it ❤️

[a-heart-of-kyber]

Whenever anyone bitches about Reid in Proof I'm just overhere like, "I would've been worse."

I'm not gonna beat around the bush and both sides this; imo Reid had a right to his anger and JJ was in the wrong.

Whenever I see the anti Reid arguments for this episode, it's always "Reid's anger was valid, but-" and then they proceed to invalidate his anger....

Now this is very Anti JJ, and not exactly pro Emily or Hotch either, and I am not looking to be convinced otherwise. There are tags and a readmore and now a warning. If you are bothering to read this any further and you disagree... you made that choice, not me.

Starting with s6 Emily. She literally put them all in danger and Knew it. She never would’ve prepared them until Doyle did what he did despite knowing they were threatened even before meeting with Doyle. Meaning one or more of them could've died probably without even understanding why. It's only because Doyle was looking to trap her that none of them were hurt.

Now, Proof opens and we immediately find out that JJ had already been bugging Reid to hang out before the episode. Which she clearly had been doing despite her knowing he was actively avoiding her. "He hates me." Makes it clear this wasn’t a one-time ask.

Hotch then, ignoring the tension, pairs them up.

Is Reid passive-aggressive? Yep. Is his passive aggressiveness based on her (JJ's) actual actions and the breach of trust and deconstruction of character caused by those actions? Also, yes.

Not once does JJ open one of these potential conversations with "I'm sorry." Because, guess what, even things you view as Necessary and Right can genuinely Hurt People. Best way to handle it? Take Accountability for your damn actions and apologize.

Hotch takes accountability in 7x01 and the first words out of Emily's mouth are "I'm sorry."

Instead, JJ puts the onus on Reid to open up because, to JJ, she is entitled to know his feelings. To JJ, she is entitled to his forgiveness.

During their period of grief, JJ should have steered him elsewhere to grieve because she was Lying to Him. To Reid, she spent months lying to him and play acting at a grief that he perceived as mutual. That would be mortifying to discover. It'd make someone feel foolish and betrayed. It's incredibly fucked up.

Then JJ goads Reid into a fight by insulting his intelligence and essentially calling him arrogant by suggestioning this was all just the result of a bruised ego, after spending the episode clapping back instead of apologizing. Their fight's foundation is steeped in a feeling of broken trust and manipulation/betrayal on one side and righteousness on the other.

And people have the audacity to say that Reid telling the Truth is being manipulative....after literal months of JJ doing that to him. The only difference being that she was Lying.

Frankly imo, when you push for a fight by hurting someone Even More (Reid had been actively trying to leave), you do not get to play victim when their truth hurts you.

And only after that does she even think to say "I'm sorry."

Plus let's not discuss the bit of this necessary secret where no one seems to actually consider the safety of those who didn't know if Doyle came knocking. Reid, Morgan and Garcia were potential and unwitting pawns/sacrifices the entire gd time. (Rossi says he figured it out....swell.)

In 7x01, Reid wasn’t requesting reinstatement. He would've quit/taken the fall. He was at the very least considering it.

He can't be mad at Emily because she came back to life and said sorry. He can't be mad at Hotch because that's his boss, and he didn't melt down in front of him.

But JJ acted as if his forgiveness was assumed, mandatory almost. That was his Best Friend who let him drown right in front of her....again.

I would've told All of them to get fucked and ghosted because I wouldn't have been able to trust them ever again. And while I have abandonment issues, I don't have them to the extreme that Reid does. The fact that he stayed is a miracle.

[sunnydaleherald]

The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Saturday, September 14

XANDER: The center of Sunnydale's Hellmouth was- BUFFY: Under the library. XANDER: Right. Now, exactly where the library was, we have- BUFFY: Principal's office. DAWN: So he's evil? BUFFY: Or in a boatload of danger. XANDER: The last two principals were eaten. Who'd even apply for the job?

~~BtVS 7x01 “Lessons”~~

[Drabbles & Short Fiction]

The Leather Jacket (Spike/Reader, not rated) by sapphistically

The mysterious time traveler had disappeared after one more night [...] (Buffy/Spike, not rated) by hiddenbysuccubi

Frosty Hearts (Buffy/Spike, M) by loverswalk89

The Ten Second Rule (Buffy/Spike, PG-13) by Girlytek

[Chaptered Fiction]

a long way from sunnydale, Chapter 1/? (Ensemble, Charmed xover, T) by s6ullys

Shadowed Suspicion Volume XI, Chapter 6/? (Ensemble, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure xover, T) by arcanedreamer

Aegis, Chapter 17/? (Xander, DCU xover, T) by dogbertcarroll, Narsil

In the Company of Witches and Slayers:, Chapter 157/200 (Willow/Tara, E) by VladimirHarkonnen (TheLightdancer)

There's A Crack In Every Wall, Chapter 5/7 (Buffy/Spike, E) by bunniesarebad

A-Z of Sex, Chapter 2/26 (Buffy/Giles, E) by KatyAmberAuthor

After Life, Chapter 6/? (Buffy/Faith, E) by Alwaysandforevermylove

Supporting Loki (And Thor), Chapter 9/18 (Buffy, Willow, Marvel xover, M) by SomeMeaninglessName

Breaking the Code, Chapter 8/? (Star Wars xover, Dawn, Buffy, Illyria, G) by Buffyworldbuilder

Situation Normal - All Faithed Up, Chapter 7/? (Buffy/Faith, M) by QuillBard

Out of Ashes, We Rise Anew, Chapter 8 (Buffy/Spike/Angel, T) by anneikenskywalker

Forces of Good, Chapter 20 (Buffy/Faith, M) by Faith-rulz

All Roads Lead Back, Chapter 6 (Buffy/Spike, M) by loverswalk89

Forty-eight days in L.A., Chapter 4 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Blissymbolics

Stupid Thing, Chapter 5 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Misti

Little Light, Chapter 8 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Melme1325

Incarnate, Chapter 15 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Sigyn

Aegis, Chapter 17 (Xander, DCU xover, T) by dogbertcarroll

Enchanted Dawn, Chapter 2 (Buffy/Spike, PG-13) by VeroNyxK84

Viral, Chapter 3 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Harlow Turner

A Taste of Buffy, Chapter 4 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Maxine Eden

[Images, Audio & Video]

Artwork: [Misc AtS AU doodles] (ensemble, worksafe) by artsying-ifer

Gifset: Every Tara look: S4E17 Superstar (worksafe) by lovebvffys

Moodboard: [Moodboard with red and white tones] (Buffy, Giles, worksafe) by buffyannegiles

Moodboard: [Moodboard with pink tones] (Buffy, Giles, worksafe) by buffyannegiles

Gifset: Well, I gotta look on the bright side. Maybe I can still get kicked out of school! (ensemble, worksafe) by orion-lake

Artwork: I hate you - Episodic art for BtVS 2x22 “Becoming, Part 2 (Buffy, Spike, worksafe) by revello-drive-1630

Video: Buffy The Vampire Slayer | Full Q&A | For The Love Of Fantasy (London) 2024 by Monopoly Events

Fanvid: Tara + Willow - Fight for it by Faith Victoria

Fanart, FNTM II: I think I was in Heaven (Buffy, worksafe) by christytrekkie

[Reviews & Recaps]

Interview with The Date - Never Kill a Boy on the First Date by Slayin It with Juliet Landau

First time watcher: Few thoughts about Buffy and Spike's abusive relationship. by psychenock

PODCAST: It's Got The Spike (S4E20) by It Stakes Two

PODCAST: Buffy 2.16 Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered by Once More Podcast

PODCAST: Episode 73: Doomed (w/ Ally!) by Gym Was Cancelled

[In Search Of]

Does anyone ever say "I'm looking for Spike" in the show? requested by SoFLShelfLove

Help finding an episode !! requested by Fair-Ad-9396

[Community Announcements]

Obsessed With You 2024 by otherworldly_chemistry

[Prompt with no fills] Buffy and Giles - magic made them do it/sex pollen/f*ck or die by buffyversekinkmeme

[Fandom Discussions]

[ask by anniemurphy] Just curious are you more Fred x Wesley or Fred x Gunn or are you like you like them at different times answered by destiel-wings

ATS in their recap of Spike’s final moments on btvs in 5x2 very very intentionally [...] omitting Buffy telling Spike she loves him is actually so embarrassing of them by raisedbythetv89, messedupdoilies

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[eddiegettingshot]

I mean I wouldnt say the eddie/chris relationship has been nothing, not in the same way as marisol at least, to me its been about the same as previous seasons assuming based on the bts chris is involved more than just in presence in whatever plot eddie has going on in 7x09/7x10 (albeit I would still like more eddie chris theyre so underused since s5) and I thought their plot in 7x01 was quite well done (7x01 was just like forever ago so the gap in chris usage seems more than what I think it would feel like on a rewatch, but we’ll see). The biggest issue with eddie chris was there was no scene with them discussing how he feels about marisol moving in (it could have been a quick drop chris off at *insert place hes going here* and be like he bud you sure about marisol moving in? So simple lol like most of my issue with chris’s usage in this season was isolated to 7x05 which makes me feel like they pivoted to that plot last minute) and I think a scene like that really would have helped with both making chris and eddie’s season long relationship feel more connected, and make chris’s part of the 7x05 plot feel so much less ridiculous lmao. All that being said if chris is just kind of there passively while eddie goes through whatever “craziness” (kim/the writers word) hes going through then I will have an issue, because eddie’s whole deal with shannon is very much tied up in chris’s existence lmao so to not explore anything chris related alongside this plot feels like a wasted opportunity and would probably change my opinion on this (generally I would agree that this season feels a little empty on the chris eddie front though. Just when it comes to 911 Ive learned to tamper both my positive and negative expectations until the plot actually plays out otherwise it bleeds too much into my irl emotional state lmao)

i mean it’s not so much nothing in the sense of screen time to me (although that’s part of it) but in the sense of like, his bearing on anything as a character, and the disconnection you mentioned. i do assume that whatever conversation eddie has with chris in the next episode will be important and possibly circle back to 7x01 which was probably the best eddie thing this season, and yes he’s clearly a big part of eddie’s relationship with shannon. really the lack of chris in 7x05 was such an egregious error that it overshadows literally everything for me. the fact that a big part of his “presence” in 7x04 was for buck’s sake, not eddie’s. then chris is put with marisol who’s literally nothing just to create the image of a family, it’s not actually about chris himself as eddie’s son in those instances. and then to have this storyline that’s not particularly thought-out where eddie’s being, i guess “selfish” - like, the writing overall for eddie and chris gives a completely different impression of their relationship and eddie as a father in a way that seems… not good. and given that that’s in line w the rest of the choices this season… yeah idk

[mayasdeluca]

Station 19 7x01 Thoughts

We finally got Marina back on our screens! I missed them so much. 😭 You could tell Carina was connected to that little baby from the start and the fact that it made her realize she wanted a fresh start with Maya in a new home because the waitress didn't make it. (Loved Maya reassuring her saying she did everything she could too!) I loved that scene (that was mostly spoiled) except the kiss angle! Like come on ABC, we are on at 10pm now, that can't be happening! Even if I get they were probably going for the 'sneaky' vibe since they were at work and I loved that they were trying to be a little secretive about it but we better not see any of their other kisses like that, there's no excuse!

The chef immediately going up to Carina and saying he wanted to adopt the baby gave me weird vibes from the start and you could tell Carina was upset at the idea...I also really like that the name ended up being Liam because it has its own meaning that doesn't have to do with anything else and it's a cute name! (in my opinion)

The last Marina scene...I really wish it was longer and they had gotten more of a chance to really discuss the idea of adopting a baby because they really didn't bring it up at all? I liked that Maya was the one who suggested it first even if we saw that Carina was already attached but I just wish they could have expressed their feelings about it more before automatically just saying yes we can do this. I get they are crunched for time and there's a lot going on but it just feels like they're cheapening what is an important story. But I'm thrilled that they added they will still try to get pregnant and continue that process...here's hoping by the end of the season they will have two babies. (My theory of Carina giving birth in the finale and that being the 'crazy Grey's crossover' with a character being at Grey's in a way they haven't before is definitely following that.)

The Andy speech was even worse in real time. Like really? She even had to name every single person who was captain before her? Excessive and unnecessary. Show don't tell. She's definitely going to get on my nerves this season.

Ghost Jack was...interesting? I guess it added something. Not surprised he won't be able to fight fires anymore since we all basically guessed that anyway. I am curious if he'll be on throughout the whole season or if he'll end up leaving or something.

Vic was amazing with the Crisis One stuff. Theo is still an asshole and I want nothing to do with him. The Ross/Sullivan stuff? Eh.

Oh also the fact that Travis and Emmett got the 'sex' scene of the episode and not Marina? 🤡 Some choice words about that but hopefully ours is coming...

All in all I wish we got more Marina but they are moms!!! They have a little boy!!! Liam Deluca-Bishop is theirs and I can't wait to see them with him! Give me all the cute domestic scenes because that baby is adorable! 😍

And this was everything. ❤️

We are so back!!

[buckgettingstruck]

in the spirit of discussing something else about the episode. I havent seen anyone mention it but to me it was incredibly side eye to me that eddie mentioned getting shot. throwaway lines are sometimes really intentional. but also it could mean nothing. but also lets not forget 2 buddie gay jokes in 7x01

THANK YOU I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS REALLY BAD. WHY DID HE MENTION THAT. HE NEVER TALKS ABOUT IT