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yet another JAYVIK post about the Butterfly Effect :3
also spoilers lol
So Hextech isn't invented in Ekko's alternate timeline, and I feel like since life seemed so much better without Hextech there can be a couple things to infer about alternate Jayce and, by association, our Jayce (and Viktor!) here:
this is a long one and my long posts never get notes but i promise its actually super interesting to think about so u should totally read through it 🧎🏻♀️➡️🔥
1. (and also my favorite one bc its Very JayVik lmao) alternate Jayce never pursued Hextech after the explosion: maybe too guilty over killing someone (because we see alternate Vi died from that explosion during the kids' robbery), he does what Heimerdinger advises him to: fully admitting his crimes and not mentioning the arcane. And we can assume the academy burned all his studies too becauseeeeee…
Viktor never endorsed it. Assuming the admission of guilt theory is correct- Viktor never would’ve even known about the arcane in the first place, because Jayce would never mention it in the council room trial. Viktor would never know that the arcane can be used to help cure people, which we see is what piques his interest in the first place. And like, obviously Viktor wants to cure his leg and illness lol
Which means Viktor never interrupted Jayce's suicide attempt after the trial and Jayce probably goes through with killing himself, Viktor never went to check on him. It seems the compelling force behind Viktor’s interrupting in season 1 was initially from Jayce’s journal, which he picks up while browsing all the Hextech equipment they were planning to destroy. Viktor only really looks at the notes because he was interested in the arcane in the first place, which again, can't happen if Jayce never mentions it in the council room.
Which is SO important to the plot and me that everything happened the exact way that it did for everything to succeed (which is quite literally the butterfly effect btw lmao). Because it shows how extremely important Jayce and Viktor’s partnership was to not only their own lives, but the entire future of Piltover, good or bad ie no hextech=no shimmer and peace between the cities, hextech= tons of shimmer, the corruption of the arcane, and the destruction of piltover.
Jayce needed someone there to believe in him, and that was Viktor: After the council disagrees with him, and he’s kicked out of the academy and banned from studying the arcane, he tries to find comfort with his mother. She’s the one who was saved using the arcane in the first place after all, so surely she’ll understand. But she tells him to give up on this dream, a dream he’s had almost his entire life. His own mother doesn’t believe in him.
He then goes to the Kiramman’s because “I'll find someone to believe in me,” most likely assuming if they sponsored his studies in the first place, they would still support him after the trial. But they kick him out from the Kiramman household too, as well as forbid his and Caitlyn’s friendship. And with no one left, the very next scene we see of him is as he’s deciding to jump.
The only thing that stops him is Viktor showing up. With an interest in the Hextech theory after he reads Jayce’s notes, Viktor wants to help Jayce make the Hextech a reality. Viktor believes in him, and he supports him. That interaction is what leads to their partnership forming, them sneaking back into the lab, grabbing the Hextech equipment and showing Mel and Heimerdinger that it was possible to create magic, and Mel's influence leading to the council’s support and the okay on continuing to develop Hextech together, projecting Piltover into success (and of course accelerating it into ruin, seen in s2. but I won’t get into that snowballing effect here because we’ll be here for hours)
Also, Viktor would be against Hextech if his first and only introduction to seeing it was as a tool to invoke harm (on a Zaunite especially). Which is what would drive Viktor away from investigating it, and before their theory ever even has the chance to get off the ground or evolve, it's already dead in the water for good because:
Something both of them, but especially Viktor, have been extremely against during the entire show was that their plans for Hextech WILL NOT be used as weapons to kill or harm, only to make lives better (especially in the undercity). Think about it: Viktor only adamantly opposed using the Hexcore AFTER it killed Skye.
The guilty conscience of accidentally killing another person with his own technology would not have helped Jayce’s mental state either lol. Like, think about the DIRECT PARALLEL in our timeline: where Viktor almost jumps and kills himself, after Skye's death, as a result of his tampering with the Hexcore, before Jayce interrupts him (ohhh their mirroring, it hurts me)
2. If not from jumping, then alternate Jayce was arrested or exiled… I mean like, he inadvertently killed a young Zaunite girl. That's a lot more consequential to his conscience, reputation, house name AND criminal record than just the building blowing up in our timeline. It’s pretty vague if anyone died in our timeline from it, I think the most that’s mentioned is some people were injured (“Was anyone hurt?” “A building was blown to bits, what do you think?”) so it would weigh heavier on Jayce’s shoulders if someone actually died in this timeline.
Also remember: he felt so guilty about accidentally killing a child with his hammer in s1, that he gave up entirely on trying to wipe out the production of Shimmer. Once he sees how his Hextech can be used against someone, he drops all his plans because "thats not what we created Hextech for"
From that theory, I'm assuming more-so that he was exiled though? Because Heimerdinger said he was in the alternate timeline for like 3 years and couldn't find Jayce, so I don't know... plus I feel like he would have found Jayce in jail if he was there lol.
And beforeeeee anyone yaps, ik Heimerdinger actually said he thinks Jayce ended up somewhere else, and never specifically stated that he "couldn't find Jayce". BUT from the end, since we see two Ekko's before he goes back to the main timeline, we can assume that the original person's mind inhabits the other's body so that there aren't like paradoxical two people in one place at the same time.
SO theoretically, Heimerdinger actually does go looking for Jayce, and if he found the alternate timeline's Jayce, he probably would've mentioned it to Ekko when asked if Jayce was there too… right? I’m assuming he was hanging around Ekko for most of the 3 years that he was there, waiting for our Ekko to be projected into the alternate Ekko, because it's not like Heimerdinger just happened to show up right when our Ekko gets there, he might’ve assumed it would happen eventually. And when the alternate Ekko starts freaking out about being in the wrong universe, it's pretty clear that this is his Ekko now lol
But then why stick around Ekko and not Jayce? I guess he was currently closer to Ekko, calling him his current pupil, and given that he was the one who showed him the Firelights community and gave him hope. Plus I mean, Jayce literally voted him off the council from a disagreement over the Hexcore so there's some salt in the wound there lmao. Or maybe because Ekko is a lot younger and would not react as calmly or rationally as Jayce would (I'm assuming... idrk HAHA). You could argue that Heimerdinger was just visiting both of them back and forth, but again if he couldn't find any Jayce, then I think it would explain why he doesn’t mention any Jayce at all, and that's where this make the most sense, at least to me.
3. alternate Jayce also died in the explosion with Vi- When we see it in our timeline, he and Vi were the closest to the blast. If it killed Vi, it would’ve presumably killed Jayce too. And if he did die, then obviously Hextech would never be invented, reasons being: everything I just mentioned in the previous theories.. but like, even more simplified bc he wasn't there to begin with lol
I only say it's a weaker theory because Heimerdinger definitely would've seen a memorial for him (or at the very least a gravestone), given Jayce was in the Talis house and under the study of the Kiramman family, it was a pretty high status name compared to the average Piltovian citizen, and probably wouldn’t be silenced or brushed away…
Although to counter that, I guess since everything in the over city is super status-y, maybe the Kiramman’s wouldn't want their name being tied with the death of two people, which is a similar but obviously more significant reason to why they kicked him out of their house in our timeline after the trial, his “name is no good now.” Plus we hear in the council trial from Ximena that the Talis family is a lower house too, and their voice doesn’t hold as much weight, so maybe it wouldn’t actually have that much mention? He hasn’t become the “Man of Progress” yet either since he’d never get to finish his studies…hmmmmm idk
also edit but some ppl just pointed this out to me that viktor likely died from his sickness bc he didnt have the hexcore to heal him and that makes me SAD !!!!
anyway thats all i have. if you made it this far i greatly appreciate you :3 🫶🏻 i love analyzing this show because OUGH the jayvik butterfly effect goes CRAZY HARD bc its both figurative with the theory and literal with the butterflies being in SO MUCH of their imagery UGHHHHH what the FUCKKKK
also some shameless self promos symbolism of viktor’s humanity and jayce's hallucinations analysis posts if u liked this one :3c
#BTW ! whether u ship them or not (this wasnt really supposed to be a shippost) u cant rlly ignore the importance of their whole relationshi#nd yeah i used the jayvik word but its really (to ME and for ME) to describe them together (partners or /Partners/ bc it works either way)#the way this literally took like 4 whole hours to write omfg how do youtube analysts do this holy fuck#i just checked an this is 1600 words LMFAO ??? someone tell me to stfu#arcane#arcane season 2#arcane s2#arcane spoilers#arcane season two#arcane league of legends#league of legends#heimerdinger#heimerdinger arcane#ekko#ekko arcane#jayce talis#jayvik#viktor#viktor arcane#viktor and jayce#jayce and viktor#jayce arcane#arcane season 2 act 3#the butterfly effect#kats movie rants#hextech#arcane meta#karcane
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it's always wild to me when horror media about varying new england puritan witch trials is predicated on "but what if there actually ARE witches and supernatural things?? that's the scary bit!! oooooOOOOoooo evil women, oooOOooo demons, OOOOO ghoooosts"
as if.... like.... the most compelling thing about it all ISN'T that there Were No Fucking Witches. and that puritans would kill people unprovoked for absolutely no reason except maintaining power/control.
HOW IS THAT NOT THE MOST INTERESTING HORROR TO YOU.
#the owl house is exempt from this because 1) it DOES understand the horror is the puritans and 2) it's hysterically funny.#every other movie and show made about 1600s salem being spooky supernatural though. You Are On Thin Ice .#it's hard being a horror fan when you have absolutely zero interest in 'fear of The Other' as a horror mechanism.#me cupping my hands over my mouth: BOOOOO.... I HAVE POLITICAL OBJECTIONS TO THIIIIISSSSSSS....#horror
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Uptown Theater, Chicago, June 1990
#movie palace#theaters#chicago theaters#uptown theatre#uptown theater#movie theaters#film photography#photographers on tumblr#original photography#theatres#urban exploration#uptown#kodak gold 1600#film grain#35mm photography#probably painted with flash#bruce sharp#mekong.net#1990
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"so cock-struck it's like a curse"
i may as well share these here. movie!firstprince in the style of the new mary and george posters, 1000% influenced by @orchidscripts fic 'noble blood' enough that id even go so far as to call it fan art (despite alex having not even appeared in the fic yet. so. this might not even be accurate)
#firstprince#rwrb#rwrb movie#red white and royal blue#alex claremont diaz#henry fox mountchristen windsor#mary and george#firstprince manip#fun fact i got these 98% done before i realised their hair probably wouldnt be super neat#i mean maybe it could be? i dont know 1600s grooming habits but it felt right to change them#my stuff
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serving beyond the grave
#asmo.txt#based her on 1600's portraits and romantic gothic stuff#and also on her 2000's movie ver#the little vampire#the little vampire 2017#the little vampire anna#ms paint#microsoft paint#gothic#der kleine vampir
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So apparently purple guy WAS (is?) at least at some point a tumblr sexyman, and because I originally got Tumblr to post a design of a Tumblr sexyman descendent because I thought the idea was really funny, I decided to design one. Because I think (hope) the Tumblr sexyman version of purple guy is not William Afton but the fandom version that was widely accepted before William Afton existed in the early days of the fandom (and because William afton already has canon kids) I made a descendent of that and pulled from some of the early theories such as purple guy being phone guy. I really wanted to go strongly in the direction of Monster High fashion dolls, so I included sketches of a little plastic accessory phone that would come with her as well as a car referencing the infamous purple car in the take cake mini game as well as an old Monster high g1 play set for draculaura’s sweet 1600 which featured a car that she got for her birthday. I wanted to pull from 80s fashion a little bit and give a 80s vibe for obvious reasons although it’s less apparent I still hope it comes through but I also strongly pulled from scene fashion because I associate that with the early days of Fnaf for some reason. (Obviously I didn’t do a full color drawing because this already took a lot of work and time, but I might go back and make one. either way, the color palette she is supposed to have is purple and gold because you know, purple guy and spring trap.)
(also by the way, the bunny teeth were not intentional. I kind of made a mistake while doing line art, but I decided to keep it because I thought it was cute.)
Inspired by @sexymandescendants and concepts/designs by @sparkerinparadise @sporesgalaxy
#sexyman descendants#tumblr sexyman#i am cringe but i am free#everything i do is for the bit#monster high#fnaf#five nights at freddy's#fnaf posting#purple guy#the purple guy#monster high g1#monster high fan art#Monster High Doll Draculaura's Sweet 1600 Birthday Roadster#is the name of the car toy if you’re interested#it’s shown in the movie#why do ghouls fall in love#I was a monster high kid#obviously
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FEAR STREET 1666 (2021)
The way I sobbed during this movie. watching the literal which hunt for a couple of girls who's only crime was loving each other was so heartbreaking and personal to me. This film was basically one big reveal so I'll keep it brief just for spoilers sake. I loved the 1600s part of this movie because the language and costume were on point. however, I have to say the big mall set up has to be my favorite part because we finally get to see the 3 films come together in such a satisfying way. this movie said women's rights, black lives matter, gay rights, and always believe survivers. If this film taught me anything, it would be to never mess with a pissed off lesbian
#bunnytalks#horror#horrormovies#movie recommendation#2020s horror#1600s#fear street#fear street 1666#deena x sam#deena johnson#sam fraser#ziggy berman
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The Monster High Movie Doll Tournament!
Round One starts today! Each poll will only be up for 24 hours, so make sure to vote before it's too late!
#monster high#monster high movie doll tournament#monster high movie dolls#monster high movies#monster high g1#monster high g2#sweet 1600#haunted#scaris city of frights#electrified#dance the fright away#great scarrier reef#13 wishes#ghouls rule#frights camera action#freaky fusion#skull shores#boo york boo york#skultimate roller maze#skrm#dawn of the dance#poll#polls#tumblr polls
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KND Presidential AU Incorrect Quote 2
[President Uno and his crew have defeated Sector V] President Nigel, mockingly: What? Gonna cry? Numbuh 1600: I'm not gonna cry... General Beetles: I bet he's gonna cry! [They all laugh] Numbuh 1600: I'M NOT GONNA CRY!!! [removes his hoodie and sunglasses] Dad! [They all gasp] President Nigel, confused: Shirley? Numbuh 1600: That's right, your son. And that's Viggo, Dad! President Nigel: No, no. It's Shirley. Your mother insisted on that.
#knd#kids next door#cknd#codename: kids next door#presidential au#president nigel uno#general wallabee beetles#shirley uno#viggo uno#numbuh 1600#source: ninjago movie#knd incorrect quotes
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Eva Green as Milady in "The Three Musketeers" (2023)
#the three musketeers#eva green#milady de winter#the three musketeers 2023#perioddramaedit#filmedit#french movie#period drama#1600s fashion#old fashioned#noblewomen#costumedit#hats
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ngl, doing both a Criterion Collection Challenge and an Anti-Criterion Collection Challenge at the same time on Letterboxd has convinced me to cancel my Criterion Channel subscription lol
#Basically you have to watch 52 movies that match that year's list of prompts over the year#For the Criterion Challenge they are all obvs Criterion Collection movies and for the Anti CC one they are movies not included in the CC#and at some point i realized i was having way more fun with the Anti CC one and rating almost all the Criterion watches as mid#and then i realized it's not so much the Criterion-worthy status that matters and makes it enjoyable#but more that i simply enjoy doing challenges and checking off checklists#And it's not like i haven't found some pretty good watches in the CC either... but you can find just as many elsewhere too#Maybe the thing i like best about the CC streaming service#is that they have lots of those behind the scenes bonus features and interviews that i miss from the DVD owning/renting days#Also it's CRAZY to me that some people have actually watched all 1600+ things in the Criterion Collection!!!#And then you read what they have to say about the experience and they're like 'yeah a lot of it was kinda filler / a waste of time tbh'#omggggg but you still did it anyway?#And dont even get me started on the people who try to physically own the entire collection on DVD......#movies#p
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Zombi brings a new meaning to “dead-end job”!
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#history#zombies#haitian vodou#folklore#zombi#horror history#boko#1600s#afro caribbean#vodou#haitian history#halloween#horror movies#dawn of the dead#night of the living dead#the walking dead#halloween season#black history#spooky season#zombie movies#haiti#horror#halloween history#movies#nickys facts
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two in the mornin' and i finished transferin' half of my music to apple music ((ㅍ- ㅍ ) the things i do
#〝 𝓬𝓾𝓫𝓬𝓱✩𝓽𝓼 ₊ ࣪ ㅤ ꣓ㅤ#actually.. not quite sure if i'm sleepy or not#out of 1600 only 1000 made the cut today yaaayyy#but ! ! i can use dolby almos on apple music this is so luvlie the music sounds so good ! !#now i got three playlists left to go . . tht can wait#i was supposed to watch the cardcaptor sakura movie :(#i won't have much time to do things since i have a preformance tmmr ! ! booked n busy !#lowk tired but we got this we r okay#a little moody because of a event that happened earlier . . worse thing abt be spacially aware is that you can literally feesomeone staring#bein spacially aware* my typos will kill me tryst#sigh.#now i have to deal with that for the rest of the weekend. ʕ→ᴥ←ʔ deeper sigh#either way ! will stay positive c:
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Uptown Theater, Chicago, June 1990
#movie palace#theaters#chicago theaters#uptown theatre#uptown theater#movie theaters#film photography#photographers on tumblr#original photography#theatres#urban exploration#uptown#kodak gold 1600#film grain#35mm photography#bruce sharp#mekong.net#1990
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So Holliday Grainger is the face ref I use when I draw Belgium and I finally found a reference where she has about the same hair length and I am hyped!!
#hetalia#hetalia headcanons#hws belgium#there's something about her face that's so sweet but also just says “cat” to me#the movie here is called the finest hour (i haven't seen it so maybe that'll go on the list lol)#she was also in tulip fever which gives me some 1600s bel refs as well#i just like finding faces and going “yes this is how that character looks in my brain”
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shoutout to my high school psych teacher for mentioning that the romanian orphan crisis was very much caused by abortion and birth control bans. like i’m pretty sure she could’ve gotten fired for that, even though it’s true… discussing abortion or fascilitating conversation about abortion in any context as a teacher in public schools in america is a big no-no
#i almost throat punched a kid before remembering i was 18 my senior year for nearly pushing a different teacher to the brink#because she would and COULD not allow him to make a presentation about the evils of abortion because that would’ve gotten her fired#she was basically begging him to shut up just repeating ‘we can’t discuss that i will get fired’#and he was all like ‘so you SUPPORT MURDERING BABIES?!’#i did verbally snap at him instead so he’d at least bitch at me and not her#i didn’t even really like her she made me like her unofficial TA (in high school yes) and then failed me in nutrition & foods#technically bc i didn’t turn in 1 assignment that she arbitrarily made into a test grade???#but really im p sure it was bc she mistook my ARFID/EDNOS/whatever as anorexia nervosa 😞#she made us keep a food journal and the day after going over them and privately telling me i wasnt meeting my caloric needs#she made us watch this awful cautionary/educational movie from the 90s about a girl dying from anorexia. lmfao.#it wasn’t even that bad i was still eating like 1600 calories a day#i respect her intention to give me a wake up call but i didn’t need it
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