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cressida-jayoungr · 20 days ago
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One Dress a Day Challenge
October: Silver Redux
Maximilian and Marie de Bourgogne (Maximilian: Das Spiel von Macht und Liebe) / Christa Théret as Marie of Burgundy
Marie wears this magnificent silver brocade gown when meeting Maximilian (whom she has already married by proxy) in person for the first time. As she tells him, Burgundy is the capital of cloth-making.
The historical event on which this is based took place in 1477. The costume designer for this series is Thomas Oláh.
We see Marie with three different variations of hairstyle and headdress with this gown (see below). I'm not sure about the period-authenticity of that pearl-studded tiara, but it is pretty. And at least she wears her hair up, unlike the heroines of many other historical productions.
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historical-fashion-polls · 12 days ago
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submitted by @shilohta 🩶🩷💛
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musetta3 · 1 year ago
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It was a pleasure to paint this art commission for the amazing @tkwritesdumbassassins ! Her Federico and Tristan is my Assassin Creed OTP; loved painting them. Based on 1470s Florentine fashion; all the fabrics are based on real textiles from the late 1400s, found at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC.
Check out TK’s fic here! One of my favorites in the fandom. Thank you again for commissioning, TK! <3 (please click pictures for optimal quality!!)
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chicinsilk · 2 years ago
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US Vogue January 1, 1960
Isabella Albonico is wearing Dior's dress and pouf-skirted jacket, Vogue Pattern 1470. Dress with a deep V neckline, small sleeves: jacket, short, fitted, with a bow at the waist. Watch. in Paris, in the original navy blue tweed. Scarf included in the pattern - which can also be made with a slightly flared skirt.
Isabella Albonico porte la robe et la veste à jupe pouf de Dior, Vogue Pattern 1470. Robe au décoletté profond en V, à petites manches : veste, courte, ajustée, avec un nœud à la taille. Montré. à Paris, dans le tweed bleu marine d'origine. Foulard inclus dans le patron-qui peut aussi être réalisé avec une jupe légèrement évasée.
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tiasha-sims · 1 year ago
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🎩 MCCC NPC OUTFITS | Умная генерация одежды 👠
Проект понравится тем, кого утомили нелепые 'модники', генерируемые игрой. Это файл настроек для Командного Центра, с прописанными нарядами для нпс.
The project will appeal to those who are tired of the silly 'fashionable' outfits generated by the game. It is a configuration file for the MC Command Center, with outfits specified for NPCs
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⠀ 🔎 ФУНКЦИОНАЛ | FUNCTIONAL
После установки мода, новые сгенерированные игрой персонажи будут одеваться в гармоничные наряды, а не рандомные несуразные вещи, как это было прежде. На уже существующих симов действие мода не распространяется.⠀After installing the mod, newly generated characters in the game will wear harmonious outfits instead of random, mismatched clothing as it was before. The mod does not apply to existing Sims.
Мы создали большое количество интересных образов для всех возрастов. Забудьте про отключение генерации нпс, ведь с этими настройками они будут выглядеть ничем не хуже ваших горожан!⠀We have created a large number of interesting characters for all ages. Forget about disabling NPC generation, with these settings they will look no worse than your citizens!
Дополнительно можно выставить настройку, позволяющую персонажам (в том числе играемым) при взрослении надевать наши со��раненные наряды, а не использовать рандомную одежду. Об этом ниже - в установке.⠀Additionally, you can set an option that allows characters (including playable ones) to wear our saved outfits when they grow up, instead of using random clothes. More on this is described below. ⠀ ⠀
😱 Более 10000 образов | More than 10000 outfits
Инфанты - 600 образов, по 50 уникальных нарядов в каждой категории у крохов и крошек.⠀Infants - 600 outfits, with 50 unique costumes in each category for boys and girls.
Тоддлеры - 1470 образов, по 105 уникальных нарядов в каждой категории у малышей и малышек.⠀Toddlers - 1470 outfits, with 105 unique costumes in each category for boys and girls
Дети - 2000 образов, по 125 уникальных нарядов в каждой категории у мальчиков и девочек.⠀Kids - 2000 outfits, with 125 unique costumes in each category for boys and girls.
Подростки-взрослые - 3680 образов, по 230 уникальных нарядов в каждой категории у парней и девушек.⠀Teens-Adults - 3680 outfits, with 230 unique costumes in each category for men and women.
Пожилые - 2800 образов, по 175 уникальных нарядов в каждой категории у дедушек и бабушек.⠀Elderly - 2800 outfits, with 175 unique costumes in each category for grandfathers and grandmothers. ⠀
⠀ 💿 УСТАНОВКА | INSTALL
❗ Необходимо полное собрание игры, а также мод MC Command Center. ⠀The full Sims 4 collection and MC Command Center mod are required.
Файл mc_dresser.cfg разместить в папку мода Командный центр.⠀Place the file "mc_dresser.cfg" in the mod folder "Command Center".
Чтобы наряды работали, корректируем параметры КЦ. В режиме жизни жмем на компьютер, выбираем МС Командный Центр, далее:⠀To make the outfits work, adjust the parameters of the MCCC. In the live mode, click on the computer, select "MC Command Center", then:
MC Гардероб > Настройки наряда > Используются только сохраненные наряды > Включена⠀MC Dresser > Only Use Saved Outfits > Enabled
MC Гардероб > Процент применения пользовательского скинтона > Ставим 0⠀MC Dresser > Percent Use Custom Skin Tone > 0
MC Население > Настройки населения > Проверка одежды неактивных симов > Включена⠀MC Population > Populating Settings... > Run Dresser > Enabled
MC Гардероб > Выбор возраста для действия модуля > Малыш, ребенок, подросток | Данный параметр включайте если хотите, чтобы при взрослении персонажи одевались в наши сохраненные наряды. Действует только на указанные возрастные категории. При желании вы можете выбрать и другие возраста.⠀MC Dresser > Ages To Run On Age-Up > toddler, child, teen | Enable this parameter if you want characters to wear our saved outfits when they age up. It only applies to specified age categories. If desired, you can also choose other age groups.
Если вы хотите переодеть уже существующего персонажа в сохраненный наряд, щелкните по симу > МС Командный Центр > MC Гардероб > Меню наряда > Случайный сохраненный наряд. Для каждой категории нужно будет повторить отдельно.⠀To dress up an existing character in a saved outfit, click on the Sim > MC Command Center > MC Dresser > Outfit Menu > Random Saved Outfit. You will need to repeat for each category separately. ⠀ ⠀
👒 Для улучшения внешнего вида НПС также рекомендую использовать | To improve the appearance of NPCs, it is also recommended to use
Tiasha - Names
Tiasha - No random hair
SimplyAnjuta - CAS Presets Selection
SimplyAnjuta - No random cas npc
━━━━ ✨ DOWNLOAD | VK ✨ ━━━━
Это не окончательная версия, наряды будут дополняться с выходом нового игрового контента.⠀This is not the final version, costumes will be updated with the release of new game content.
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jackhkeynes · 8 months ago
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Can you give an overview of your conworld and language for new people?
Absolutely! :D
The World
The setting I write in (hereafter "Boralverse") is an alternate history of Earth. The original difference from our own history (hereafter "IRL") is the existence of the island of Borland (Istr Boral) between Great Britain and Denmark, inspired by the IRL existence of Doggerland.
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The human pre-classical history of Borland can be summarised as:
With sea level rise about 8k years ago, Borland was cut off from the continent and from Britain (this is when Doggerland was submerged IRL); some Stone Age people remain. They leave some monuments—burial mounds, the Çadrosc labyrinth—and were farmers, but they had no writing or ironworking.
The Celts arrive in Borland shortly before they settle Britain in the second millennium BCE, taking up iron tools and establishing many tribal groups. Due to some later migration from Britain to Borland, they speak a language (Borland Celtic) which is most closely related to Proto-Brythonic.
I assume that as far as possible the history of the rest of the world is indistinguishable from the IRL history up to this point. I continue to do so while the Romans invade and settle Borland shortly after Britain, despite conceding to credulity and allowing a few classical references:
...in Ptolemy's description of the Pritannoi we can understand he referred to the Insular Kelts of Ireland, Britain and Borland as a whole... ...contrasting Hadrian's policies in Britain and in Borland is vital for understanding their different fates in the post-Classical age...
where I admit that the Roman Empire having an entire additional province should probably have some observable effects.
Once the Western Roman Empire collapses, I start properly diverging Boralverse history from IRL history. This begins with a different pattern of Anglo-Saxon migration; the two petty kingdoms of Angland and Southbar arise in western Borland, while the settlement of England proceeds slightly slower than IRL.
Historical divergence spreads through western Europe over the next few centuries, and by 1000 CE things are beginning to go off the rails all across Eurasia and North Africa. I leave the history of the Americas the same until Old World contact (via Basque fishermen stumbling across Newfoundland in 1470 CE), and likewise with Australia.
The map below shows Europe in 1120, during the Second Tetrarchy Period. At this time, Europe was unusually centralised, with four great empires: the First Drengot Empire (red), the German Empire (brown), the Second Roman Empire (purple) and the Single Caliphate (green).
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In the modern era, my hope is that the Boralverse world feels fractally uncanny; at every scale something is unexpectedly different, from political borders and languages to fashion and pop culture references.
For clarity, I employ an inconsistent Translation Convention when writing from a Boralverse perspective, mostly using IRL English but peppering in calques of Boralverse English jargon for flavour, such as threshold force "nuclear power" or jalick "garment socially equivalent to a tuxedo".
The Language
The original motivation for this alternate history setting is Borlish (Borallesc), the Romance language spoken on Borland.
It picked up a few Borland Celtic loanwords from the existing population at the time of the conquest (macquar ~ Welsh magu "raise, rear"; vrug ~ Welsh grug "heather"), but was much more influenced through the first millennium by Anglo-Saxon settlement and then Norse conquest during the Viking Age. The following is an example of late Old Borlish (ca. 1240):
…sovravnt il deft nostre saȝntaðesem eð atavalesem n iȝ atrevre golfhavn seȝ hamar dont y verb divin ismetre ac povre paian. peðiv soul ez font istovent por vn nov cliȝs d istroienz istablir… …uphold our most sacred and ancient duty to let Gulfhaven be the centre from which we will send the Word of God to pagan lands. We ask only for the necessary funds for a new teachinghouse…
The Modern Borlish language has undergone spelling standardisation (most recently deprecated some irregular spellings in 1870), and contains many more Latin and Greek loanwords, along with borrowings from languages across the world.
Y stal zajadau dy marcað nogtorn accis par lamp fumer eð y lun fragnt de mar receven cos equal party a domn pescour pevr jarras e fenogl gostant tan eð eç nobr robað n'ornament fluibond ant queldin raut frigsað ne papir cerous. The night market's various stalls lit by smoky lamps and the sea-shattered moon welcomed flocks of fishwives sampling paprika and fennel as well as notables in flowing finery carrying stir-fried suppers in wax papers.
In terms of sound changes and grammatical developments, the major points include:
Intervocalic lenition /p t k b d g/ > /v ð j ∅ ∅ ∅/: catēna > caðen "chain", dēbēre > deïr "must".
The use of ç (and c before e i y) for /ts/, and the use of g in coda to represent /j/. Along with some vowel shifts, this leads to things like cigl /tsajl/ "darling".
Total loss of final consonants in multisyllable words, including -s, which leads to:
Collapse of noun declension, including number; Borlish does not mark number on nouns, and if it wants to it uses demonstratives or simply relies of verb agreement: l'oc scuir pasc, l'ec scuir pascn "this boy eats, these boys eat".
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apoptoses · 2 years ago
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Armand lived in Venice during the absolute sluttiest period for mens’ clothes and I gotta talk about it.
Anne constantly used Botticelli as a reference for clothes (who was at his peak in the 1470s/1480s) but Armand was in Florence when Savonarola died, which puts him in Venice the late 1490′s. Fashion was moving fast, there was a big moral panic over society falling apart and becoming too secular, and in Venice it was time to let your inner ho out.
The look: Short. Tight. Made of as many expensive scraps as possible.
Let’s get into it.
The words used to describe clothes in TVA have zero basis in reality but were probably chosen because the average reader can picture a tunic easier than they can suss out what a cioppa was. So for quick reference:
Shift: a shirt (made out of linen, unless you want Armand to be the stinkiest boy in Italy. Shirts needed to be white, which meant they were bleached with piss, and ammonia eats away silk. So he could not have worn a silk shirt unless it was never going to be washed and he was happy to run around with pit stains, which would have been horrible). Considered an underwear layer.
Doublet: the renaissance equivalent of your shirt. Wool or silk, either is fine.
Cioppa: a pleated ‘tunic’ worn over your doublet, always sleeveless. Wool or silk.
Gamurra: your coat. Wool or silk.
Hose: pants, always made of wool flannel
So most folks reading probably picture Armand in something like this, ala Botticelli’s time:
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Long cioppa, down mid thigh or to the knee, puffy sleeved doublet, not too risque. But this is like 25 years out of date by Armand’s time, and when he goes shopping it’s with a bunch of teenage boys with Daddy’s credit card. Marius, with his ever present Botticelli hard on, might have had them wear this stuff sometimes but this is not what a fashionable boy at the time would go out and buy himself.
Now the dude on the right here:
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This is the look.
Doublet? Tight
Cioppa? Short
Ass? Out.
The entire point of the style was to show off your snatched waist and manly thighs and boy did the Venetians do just that.
Also doublets by this period were basically scraps of fabric tied together to show as much shirt as possible. Which was scandalous because your shirt is your underwear, so running around like this was the renaissance equivalent of wearing a sheer shirt with your bright pink bra exposed.
As a little rich boy and Master’s favorite, Armand would have been able to afford the finest linen, so sheer it would have been nearly see-through. Which makes a helluva statement when your doublet was split down the front like this:
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His hose would be bias cut wool flannel for maximum stretch and maximum ass sculpting. Until the later 15th century hose were just thigh high stockings, and your doublet had to be long enough to cover your underwear. Now that doublets were being worn cut off at the waist hose had to be joined like modern pants. But how did you keep your junk safely in the trunk?
Enter the pre-cursor to the codpiece, which I mentally refer to as The Dick Flap:
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This was a little triangle of fabric, shaped to hold your goods. It tied to the waist at each upper corner. Hose were so tight you couldn’t wear underwear (!) so you just had to tie your flap tight and go about your day. Like the modern zipper, it made for easy access (do with that info what you will)
This was the first time in European history that men just ran around with their full crotch emphasized and on display, so having your doublet so short it just all hangs out was both sexy and shocking to people.
But how did these pants stay up, you wonder?
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Your pants would be tied to the hem of your doublet. Which meant that every day, Armand had to have someone lace him into his super tight clothes. I personally headcanon that he and Riccardo helped each other get dressed every day while he was mortal but you can feel your own fantasy on that one.
Another fun trend during the period was having your family emblem or a symbol of your trade embroidered on the sleeve of your gamurra:
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Which Marius would have taken full advantage of, and put his fleur de lis in pure gold thread on every gamurra Armand had.
Here’s some more fashion fit pics just for fun:
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Fleur de lis branding on the gamurra and the hose? Marius would have been into it.
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The tied on sleeves! The shift pulled out of every seam! The renaissance man ass everywhere!
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A plump and juicy young man indeed.
Anyways I hope this was useful or inspirational, or at least makes your next reread of the Vampire Armand more fun. Because the clothing descriptions in there don’t even begin to touch the painted on fashion fantasy that was going on in 1490s Venice.
(also if anyone really, really wants to see details on what Armand would have seen when he put on his clothes, I’m making a 1490s fit with all historically correct methods right now and I can post some of that if there’s interest)
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catullus101 · 1 year ago
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Detail of Alice Chaucher’s tomb, St Mary's Church, Ewelme, 1470s
Duchess of Suffolk and granddaughter of Geoffrey Chaucer, Alice is buried in an elaborated cadaver monument, a two-tiered tomb that was fashionable in the Late Middle Ages. While the top tier shows a dignified effigy of Alice in life, wearing the Order of the Garter, in the one at the bottom she is shown as a decaying corpse staring at a painting of the Annunciation.
Photo by Fiona Charters [x]
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satanwritesfanfiction · 9 months ago
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Porter Gage x f!reader •°• Under management △SMUT△
Title: Under management
Rating: explicit, smut
Category: f/m
Fandom: Fallout 4
Relationship: reader x Gage, ss x gage, female overboss x Gage
Characters: Gage, reader
Tags/ triggers: Mild dubious consent if you squint, p in v, pwp, smut, vaginal fingering, no aftercare, OOC
Wordcount: 1470
a/n: idk how I feel about this one yet, but it's finished and that's something to be happy about.
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When he had offered to be the man behind the overboss you didn't think he meant it quite as literally. He had been quite to the point in that initial conversation, most of it purged from your memory under the exhaustion and blood loss, but you remembered the ease in which he shot down your objections and took the back-seat, come to think of it, he did like the proverbial back-seat in most of your interactions...
Many a times he found himself behind you, hand anchored to the back of your neck as he took the time to tell you how good you take him whilst filling your cunt up to your skull, pressed against the old mattress as you cried out. It had barely been a few days when he first found himself pressed to the hilt, a quick motion that ended with you bent over the countertop, stools rolling on the floor from the jagged movement.
You could feel it as you walked through the parks, his eyes on you as he trailed behind. A quiet patience, control that seemed to snap once his eyes were the only ones on you, when he could maneuver you as he liked, where he dragged beyond the title of overboss even when still referring to you as it.
You should not like that fact, you rolled the thought over in your mind, cloudy intention in the sanctity of Fizztop Grille. Barely even a word exchanged until he once again maneuvered your body effortlessly onto the bed, pants already dragged to the floor and fingers pressed to your clothed core, biting into your lower lip as you looked up at his hulking form.
"Like that?" He asked, but didn't wait for a response, merely dragged your underwear to the side and pressed a finger into your tight heat.
You sucked in a breath at the feel of it, body tingling under the promise of the sweet release, yearning for the press of him once again. Your hands pressed to his shoulders in a keening display as your body opened up to him, a softness beneath the jagged movement as he took the time to pull at the threads of your body.
You mulled the emotion in your head as your head tipped back and sucked in another breath, repeated the mantra that it was just pleasure, it was just the raider way, thoughts that crumbled under the weight of his lips pressed to the side of your face, of the words layered upon your skin.
You were easy, you wagered. Something easy to manipulate and fashion into what he wanted, to artificially move into a position to take control of. The notion only made real in your mind by how you responded when his free hand moved up your body, slipping under your shirt and wrapping around your breast. You pushed into him as he played with the weight of it, whispering his name under the threat of your release building in your lower abdomen.
He was gracious enough to press his thumb to your clit as your hips jerked pathetically against his fingers. Your hands clenched against his shirt, biting into your lower lip hard enough to draw blood when you chanced a glance up at the man. His eye was focussed on where his fingers disappeared into your cunt.
"G-Gage.." You whimpered, that lead his gaze to your face. "I'm so... Close."
The smirk on his face was unmistaken as he shifted his weight a little to better regard you.
"Show me." He stated simply, doing more purposeful movements with his hand. " I want you to come on my fingers... boss."
By now he must've realized what the term does to you, had to have felt the way your cunt flutters against him when he uses it. He didn't say anything on the matter, but he purposefully used it in your most heightened state, pushed you into clenching around him.
You came with his name on your tongue, nails digging into your palm as you clenched them against his chest, chest pressing into his chest as the sensations ran through your body, for a moment consumed.
You bit into your lip when he removed his fingers from your cunt, small sound falling from your lips. He sat back, fingers pressing into your skin as he dragged your underwear down your legs. He watched on, attentive in the way his eye lingered on your body and settled between your legs. His fingers pressed into the soft flesh, keeping your thighs spread for him in his assessment. He glanced up at your face as his hand covered your sex, and he then slid a single digit through your slick folds.
"You are quite something..." His voice carried across the room, fingers wrapping over your hip. "Spread out like this, all for me." He didn't plan on wasting much more time, as he pulled his cock free with a few jagged motions to his pants and slapped it against your cunt, a chuckle reverberating at your sound of surprise. "Such a pretty little thing."
He shifted a little to get a better angle, lining up to your entrance and swiftly pressed onward, not enough to be able to thrust to the hilt at first, but he quickly worked his way inside, quick sharp motions that sucked the air from your lungs.
He quickly found a rhythm, much less pressed on you than where you connected, fingers digging into the flesh of your hips as he used the leverage to pull your body towards his as he thrusted, watching as his cock reappeared and then disappeared again inside your warm cunt.
"That's it..." He grunted through the motions. "So fucking tight... So good for me, boss."
You bit into your fist, eyes closed under the assault, sensation pricking at your skin as you were submerged under the feeling of his cock filling you up again and again, feeling your body rock against the mattress as he used your body for his own pleasure.
Lost in the pleasure, you didn't quite notice the shift until he pulled harshly at your wrist, dislodging the appendage from your lips and pressing it beside your head, fingers locking to keep it in place as he hovered over you.
"Let me hear it." He stated as he looked down at you, dragging your thigh over his hip as he took you. "Don't you dare fucking hide it from me."
You whimpered at the request, soft babbling under the sensation that turned louder until you called his name in a plea that you weren't sure exactly what you were asking for.
His hand left your wrist, sliding between your bodies and pressing flat against your clit, pressing a kiss against your exposed neck when your head moved to the side.
"I want you to come with me inside you." He spoke against your skin, the finger on your clit rapidly moving at the tail-end of the sentence. "I know you can do that for me."
You could feel your thighs quiver at the sensations that wrecked your body, your own fingers pressing into the skin of his back. You closed your eyes, with all the turmoil and confusion he caused, you rarely found the courage to not give into whatever he asked. You relented to the pressure in your lower abdomen, crying out his name as you gave in.
Your walls clenched around him, his hand digging into your hip in his effort to keep fucking into your tight cunt as you fell. You watched your expression shift, body shake, and he swore he could thank whatever god was out there to have you land in his lap so beautifully, so obediently.
"That's a good girl." He breathed, hips sloppily thrusting forward until he stilled, pressed deep into your cunt as he came, ropes of warm seed painting your insides as he grunted against your neck.
He was never one for intimacy or showing affection, but he couldn't help the way his eyes washed over your flushed face, but neither would you see it and ultimately, he pulled out without a word and flopped down beside your half dressed body, placing himself back in his pants before zipping up, like nothing had even happened. The only evidence the sweat on his skin and the liquid spilling from between your legs.
He was courteous in his own way you suppose, when he handed you a glass of water and the fact that he didn't kick you out of the bed, or leave himself until some time had passed after the deed, but perhaps it would've been better if he had, then you wouldn't have any hope to cling to that this could be more than what it evidently was to him.
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dresshistorynerd · 1 year ago
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Hello!! Your blog has been a delight to browse through. I have a question, it may seem obvious but I'm just making sure- with codpieces, did the "cods" actually go inside the little pouch, or did the codpieces sort of just go over where they were located and people's "cods" were tucked back somewhere else? I assume the former, but the construction of some of the ones I've seen in portraits (very upturned) looks like it'd be uncomfortable.
Semi-related question, I've got a couple of characters that, for one reason or another, wear codpieces without being in possession of a "cod". Would that influence how it would lay on the body in any way? Would it be wildly inaccurate to suggest theirs were stuffed with cotton or something?
Again, your blog is very cool and I appreciate finding another historical clothing enjoyer :]
Thank you! :) It makes me happy to hear you've enjoyed this blog!
I'm not sure if you've already seen my post about the construction of the joined hose in which I also touch on the origins of the codpiece. Shortly the early cod pieces in late 15th century were invented to cover the genital area comfortably, when the hose were relatively stiff and very skintight.
Looking at the early codpieces, which were basically just a small piece of fabric tied on on the crotch it does make a lot of sense, clearly the it held the genitals inside it. Like in this 1470s painting.
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The men's fashion where they didn't wear hems and only very tight hose was mainly used by young fashionable men, who were not nobles, so soldiers, musicians, Venetian gondoliers etc. At the time valuables were generally tied to the belt in pouches, and especially when it comes to soldiers, who would also have knives and swords hanging on their hips, not having a protective layer of a skirt left their genitals quite vulnerable to hanging objects. Which is probably why they started padding their codpieces. The codpiece started to be made from two pieces of fabric making it more shapely and less flat, but it wasn't yet very extreme. There is padding but it's still easy to see how it would hold the genitals.
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In 16th century it very quickly though turned very extreme. It became huge, what the French called appropriately a baguette. It was heavily padded, even boned to keep the shape.
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There's not much if any codpieces left from the time, so it's hard to say how they were specifically constructed. To me it seems quite probable, that they were still functionally the same as the earlier codpieces with a little pouch for the genitals and the rest being padding. There's a pretty interesting theory though about these extreme codpieces. At the time there was a big syphilis epidemic in Europe and they put all kinds of herbs and remedies on the genitals and wrapped the penis in bandages with the remedies. So the theory suggests that these baguettes may have been developed to hold and protect bandaged genitals, protect the fashion fabrics from the staining remedies and also obscure that someone had the very stigmatized infection by making a very padded penis a fashion. There's a really interesting paper about it, which also goes into detail about the codpiece.
So the genitals were held inside the codpiece one way or another. And to answer the other question, padding the codpieces was already standard practice so padding it a little bit more if one didn't have outward genitals like that is very believable to me. In fact, people would even hide some valuables inside their very large and padded codpieces. Even in the earliest codpieces made from flat fabric you could easily add a little extra stuffing to the under-breeches or the chemise tucked in to the hose. Though I'd doubt they'd use cotton as padding, since cotton wasn't readily available at the time in Europe. (It was all imported from Asia, since it didn't grow in Europe and Europeans didn't know how to weave cotton, so it was used on very specific purposes, like lining doublets.) More likely wool, linen or horsehair.
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realcatalina · 9 months ago
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More mystery with portraits of Hasburgs
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These two paintings are located in different museums, but are believed to be once a part. Currently they are labelled currently as Philip of Austria and Margaret of Austria, 1483, by Master of Legend of Magdalene.
And it's kind of a problem. Because at least the boy doesn't look like early work of this artist at all! Not even remotely close.
So other artists have been suggested instead, and for example the girl's has been most recently labelled as by Pierre Coustain.
Which doesn't make any sense either. Because while this was court artist in Burgundy, he specialized in making coat of arms and flags, sculptures etc. Like we can speculate on Pierre Coustain's involvement in these portraits(figures by Pieter van Coninxloo):
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But only about the coats of arms. This guy wasn't portraitist.
...And you know me, I am nitpicker. I my motto is:
Never trust period label...because often times they are added centuries later.
So of course I checked the labels. On first glance, they seem as very genuine. This form of letters was around in 15 and 16th century.
...So I needed some help reading it, but luckily on wikipedia it was in description of paintings.
Girl's:
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Gedaen Int Jaer ons here 1483 tsinen v en Jaerre/FAT LAN M.IIII.C.IIII.XX ET TROIS QUE LORS AUOIT TROIS ANS ET TROIS MOIS)
This was created in 1483 and she is 3 years and 3 months old.
(Very specific...oddly so.)
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Gedaen Int Jaer ons here 1483 tsinen v en Jaerre / Fat Lan m. III c. IIII xx. z trois ou ve. an de son eage.
Once again it says year 1483, but that Philip is 3 or 5 years old.
Like how does nobody question this? You cannot be specific to month with girl, and not know how old the boy was!
Unless the label is not original at all! And likely not even done in 15th century. Because at those days, labels weren't really popular. They took off mainly in 16th century. And given the amount of mistakes I doubt Margaret nor Philip were even alive when this occured.
Because have they been, somebody would take greater care in getting it correct!
(And, If the text is from much later it is damn well-made.)
So if text is untrust-worthy, the dating of 1483 is also untrust-worthy, and then we cannot even be sure it is Philip or Margaret!
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And though the boy doesn't fit Master of Legend's early work, he damn sure looks very alike to his late work! (1510-1527)
But then these kids cannot be royals from Netherlands. This is not its fashion from 16th century. We have portraits of Philip's kids raised in Netherlands, we know what they wore.
And while, yes the girl's hat looks bit like 1460-1470s male hats worn in netherlands, girls didn't wore this I checked. And given Netherlands were already back then northern capital of painters. It's very unlikely it wouldn't appear in art of that time from that country.
So possibly these are foreign royalty. But whom?
Well, artist started working around 1480/1490 and stopped about 1527. (Assuming we have correct artist.)
And the boy wears order of golden fleece around his neck. And clearly he is not adult. List of knights of Order of Golden fleece is on wikipedia and it includes when people got it and their birth year.
So finding people who got it before age of 15 in corrrect timeframe wasn't that hard.
Six candidates:
Philip of Austria (who it is currently identified as)
Henry VIII
Charles V
Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor
Louis II, King of Bohemia and Hungary
Philibert of Chalon
But at age of 14 and 13, Henry VIII and Philibert are simply too old...to be depicted here. And Louis II's sister was older than he. And we know what Charles and his sisters raised in Netherlands wore.
Thus if not Philip and Margaret, the only other valiable option is Ferdinand and Catherine of Austria.
(if the list of candidates was complete...)
And it just so happens that if you put correct dimensions to these(in cm), and put them in order of birth, they don't look so weird...
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Potentially this might have once been full set of siblings.
Done firstly around 1507(first four)
and rest after 1515, when Ferdinand became the member of the order.
...And if we compare what the girl wears with spanish fashion, then at least in examples from 1490s similiar hats were popular(not as much raised, but we always see them on adults. Maybe then the raise is not so high, and traluscent veils of this kind even much later(those are with cofia de tranzado)...this shape of neckline, also very popular in Spain at least around turn of the century.
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In my research into iberian fashion, i didn't go that much into fashion after 1505(not in debt) and it's not ideal that I point to examples about 20 years prior to when I think it might be.
But it is a possibility, and would explain the resemblence.
...
However then we have to assume 2 more possibilities.
A) the list of knights of order of fleece was not complete...and we're missing candidates...and then once again, where does the fashion point us?...Spain in case of girl...
B) But what if the boy and girl don't belong together?
What if they just had same background(popular in Burgundian/Netherlandish court from 1450? to about 1507)
and same dimensions(by chance, or they were later cut to make them same dimensions)?
(C)what if both options? L)ist wasn't complete and boy and girl don't belong together?
Well, the boys who got orders of golden fleeces as kids were usually royalty, with whom Hasburgs had friendly relationship.
Only other option already not covered, would be either Christian II of Denmark-but he was made member in 1519-so he is on the list, as adult...
or John, Prince of Asturias and Girona. He married Margaret of Austria, in 1497 and died that same year. And Joanna married Philip of Austria in 1496.
We know Margaret's portraits were created in early to mid 1490s, likely to be sent to Spain, and probably Philip's also.
But what if Spanish send reply? And Hasburgs send their own painter, to paint Spanish royal children? That would also explain resemblence to Joanna's children. Because boy would have to be her brother, and girl Joanna herself.
Again, the boy seems to be later work of the master, but it was a workshop. It is possible one of its member simply became more prominent later in workshop's lifetime and it happened to be him who was sent to paint the boy.
And i cannot get further than this. Dendrology would be helpful here.
However as these portraits have year upon them, the institutions who own them think they have the correct date already. We can only hope they decide to test it anyway.
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larmegliamori · 8 months ago
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OCxCanon Week, Day 1: Historical
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@theocxcanonweek
Michael "III" Arclight (canon) X Hoshiko Kazama (OC)
This prompt is just too good to pass it on.
In Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal, some character have a canon past life before reincarnating into their current selves. That's not really the case for the Arclights, but it would interesting for them to have one (they're tied to the Barians -the characters with canon past lives- so it wouldn't be too far-fetched). And that's what made me work with this prompt!
My timeframe of choice for historical costumes is the Renaissance (1470-90s especially), mostly because its family dramas fits both Michael and Hoshiko's stories and it would be nice to see them both move into such rich and interesting centuries for my country. It also gave me plenty of art references to work with.
I loved the idea of couple portraits (think of the Duke and Duchess of Urbino diptych), hence the similar background and poses. For the clothes and hairdo, I took inspiration from Florence fashion for Michael and Venice fashion for Hoshiko, tweaking them to suit my needs.
I also used a different painting style for this pieces: I worked without lineart and with big blotches of colors, which was hard, but also very fun!
I hope you enjoy these portraits! Now I just have to work on a possible story to accompany them... I already have a couple names at the ready...
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llitchilitchi · 1 year ago
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I thought I saw somewhere that you had a big pile of medieval clothing references? Am I crazy, is that a thing? Is it sharable? Otherwise, where do you search for references?
this one gets a little long, sorry about that anonnie
I did mention it at some point, yeah
most of my reference comes from my own personal collection of books that I've accumulated over the years, unfortunately many are not in English or I got them second hand and are difficult to find online
I don't have as much stuff regarding medieval fashion since most of the fashion that I am interested in starts around renaissance, so when I wanna look into older periods, it's fashion history books that are more general and provide a bit of an overview for the time periods
my two go-to books like that are The Costume History and then Fashion: The Definitive History of Costume and Style <-they're very general and barely touch on anything, much less proper structures, but they are a pretty good introduction to western fashion history
the book that I reach for regularly when I look into fashion for Monarchy Restoration is Dějiny Odívání: Renesance (Fashion History: Renaissance) - covers the fashions of mostly 15th and 16th century. this book is available only in Czech as far as I know and came out 23 years ago, also the information isn't particularly great (a trend I noticed with Czech authors, unfortunately.) the book is really well illustrated though which as someone who isn't particularly interested in recreating these styles for myself and only needs it for art is more than enough
I'm also fortunate enough to live in Europe so I get to visit castles and exhibitions regularly and I can gather my own reference by taking photos of the paintings, tapestries and frescos.
a great reference for actual medieval fashion are medieval illuminated manuscripts. I don't know where you're from, nor which area you want to look into, given how the fashion of the middle ages differs from country to country, so I'd definitely start by looking into books on medieval illustrations from the country you are interested in. I managed to snatch a really old copy of a book covering Slovak manuscripts and there's a book covering Czech ones (Krása českých iluminovaných rukopisů). many manuscripts have also been digitalized are available online
another thing you might consider is looking into illustrated books on medieval history. Jacques Le Goff has a sizeable collection and the prints that are available to me locally use many original medieval illustrations and paintings
old blogs dedicated to the topic are also amazing for this. given the state of tumblr and the internet as a whole, these are a lot harder to come by and many haven't been updated in years
I really wish I could tell you to scour the depths of google images and pinterest, but with the rise of artificial intelligence, people have started creating an unhealthy amount of fake history. it's honestly disheartening how many times I've caught myself looking at images and wondering if they are just passable fakes. this hurts even more when it comes to art used as reference, which is the main basis for medieval and early renaissance fashion, since the original garments are for the most part gone
to sum this up, I recommend looking into general fashion history books first. it's not great, but it's a start, especially if you only have a vague idea of what you want and aren't hellbent on finding accurate fashions to Venetian fashion of the 1470s, or something of that sort. a general look is a good starting point. from there, once you have pinpointed what you are after, look into books that might cover the topic. depending on the time period there might be detailed coverage in decent books, or you'll have to turn to other things such as books on the daily life in that time period (which have grown in popularity in the past couple of years) or book covering the art of the time period. those books might actually be better than fashion history books, since fashion history books prefer looking into the high society and not at commoners, who would have otherwise been depicted in paintings. they won't go into so much detail of the dress, obviously, but you'll get to see how the lower classes dressed as well. if you come across some proper vocabulary, it's worth doing a google search or pinterest search, though again, I have to warn you that people on the internet Like To Lie. A Lot. especially about history. while you are at it, you might also notice painter names popping up regularly, so look up their work as well. (personally been really into Cranach.) those paintings are great if you need only outer layers for art reference. in a similar manner, if you are looking into high society, it might be worth looking at the nobility and royalty of the time and their depictions.
last but certainly not least, if you have the chance to visit an exhibition, a castle, a cathedral, anything really that might deal with this stuff, go. you never know what you might come across. a lot of my favourite little reference photos were taken at castles that I visited with family and I didn't even expect to find anything at. it's very much about personal preference in fashion, too, so while you might see images in books, it might not be until you see a medieval painting of a saint that something about a dress just Clicks and you steal that style for your next OC. events organized by fashion history larpers are pretty good too if you don't mind talking to people, same for history themed events (NOT renaissance fairs. unless you run into people who actually know what they're doing) where people dress up for the occasion. not just some actors though, but actual proper historians who looked into their shit. I've met a couple amazing people and learnt a lot.
I don't know how valid this information is and I'm sure actual fashion historians are absolutely cringing at this, but as someone who mostly looks into fashion history for art reference, this is a method I found works for me. hope it helped at least a little!
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ncon29 · 8 months ago
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judging the vibes of some typefaces
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Futura: corporate  - logo / cartoony
Gill sans: corporate but trying not to be - why so pointy ? i despise those s’s and the G makes me uncomfy. bad.
Didot: trying hard to be classy and succeeding - decorative / fashion magazine-y / so french
Hightower: laid-back, not trying hard to be classy, but still classy - info / subtle / storybook / petite ! / a series of unfortunate events
Hightower Research
Who: Tobias Frere-Jones When: 1990-94 Where: New York City What: A serif typeface
How: Influenced by Nicholas Jenson’s “old style” serif work from Venice in the 1470’s
font family includes italic (unlike Jenson's - as italic) but not bold (like Jenson's)
Adobe Fonts: "Hightower’s wide proportions and deep color were calibrated for small text sizes. Its organic forms and details also work well in headlines, adding complexity and subtlety.”
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monicasaiplayground · 5 months ago
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4298 - selena gomez in 1470s fashion and 1470s makeup full body picture - OpenArt SDXL
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ainews · 6 months ago
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In the 1470s, the northern region of Europe experienced an overabundance of ribbons, causing confusion and concern among merchants and consumers alike. This unexpected surplus was due to a combination of factors, including changes in fashion trends, trade networks, and production methods.
One of the main reasons for the surplus of ribbons in the north was the shift in fashion towards using ribbons as decorative accessories. During this time, women began to wear their hair in elaborate braids and twists, which were held together with ribbons. This led to a higher demand for ribbons, causing merchants to buy more from producers.
At the same time, there was an increase in trade networks, particularly in the textile industry, which allowed for easier transportation and distribution of goods. This led to a larger quantity of ribbons being imported to the northern regions, contributing to the surplus.
Another factor contributing to the overabundance of ribbons was the advancement in production methods. With the invention of the drawloom, a weaving tool that allowed for more intricate patterns, ribbon production became faster and more efficient. This increase in production led to a surplus of ribbons that could not be consumed by the market.
The overabundance of ribbons in the north had a significant impact on the economy. Merchants who had stockpiled ribbons in anticipation of high demand were now facing a surplus, causing a decline in prices. This, in turn, affected the profits of producers and had a ripple effect on the entire ribbon industry.
To address this issue, the northern merchants and producers began to collaborate and work together to find ways to sell the surplus ribbons. They organized trade fairs and markets, promoting the use of ribbons in different ways, such as on clothing, furniture, and even as a form of currency in some regions.
Eventually, the surplus was depleted, and the market stabilized, but it was a significant learning experience for the ribbon industry. Merchants, producers, and consumers all became more aware of the impact of fashion trends, trade networks, and production methods on the supply and demand of goods.
In conclusion, the 1470s saw a significant surplus of ribbons in the northern region of Europe due to changes in fashion, trade networks, and production methods. This event highlighted the interconnectedness of different aspects of the economy and the need for collaboration to address issues such as overabundance.
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