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I think it's a hallucination
I think that the Salem Seven's bugs bit/stung the group as they flew through them because, otherwise, what was the point of including that in the episode? It didn't do shit to stop them. It would have been more effective for that one Salemite to stay there, blocking them with her body. She may have caught at least one of them or slowed them down for the others to catch up.
So, assuming they did get bit/stung by those bugs and assuming they are, in fact, all hallucinating:
They're not all hallucinating the same thing.
This episode was mainly Agatha's hallucination, obviously. She's the one they most want to punish. I guess she never explained why their parents died, or they were just too upset to care why it happened, just that it did happen. It's said that they were young, so how young are we talking? Younger than Agatha, most likely. Maybe they were babies and toddlers, being cared for by other parents/ family members, who filled their heads with the same vitriol that led to Agatha's attempted execution by their mothers.
Honestly, Agatha should have adopted them all and turned them into her little army of baby witches, but she didn't. She was probably also scarred by the experience and then literally meeting Death (aka Rio Vidal, the love of her life) and got distracted.
But that makes me think that, maybe, when a witch is killed in a duel, it's expected for the witch to wipe out the children, to end the bloodline with that witch. And Agatha Harkness showed mercy to these babies. She allowed them to live, which eventually became her biggest regret.
Showing Humanity is one of Agatha's biggest regrets.
That explains so much about this woman, I swear.
Anyway, hallucinations.
Agatha's is an embodiment of everything she has ever feared:
Losing Control - Agatha cannot rely on other people. She learned that, probably, at a young age because her mother despised her. She kept Agatha alive despite her claims that she knew she should have killed Agatha when she was born. I cannot find shit about her father, but he's never mentioned so maybe he wasn't in the picture. Hard to believe Evanora wouldn't have been married before having children but idk. Bitch is crazy. Anyway, Agatha knew that she couldn't rely on anybody: not her mother, not even her own coven. She was alone in the world, even when Rio came. She tried not to rely on anybody. Being possessed means relying on others to save her.
Her mother - this old fucking crone. I cannot stand her. Just in, like, six minutes of an episode, I have beef with an old ghost. This woman terrorized her daughter from the moment she was born. She "knew" she was evil (then why didn't you kill her, Voldemort? she was a baby. all you needed was a knife. or just leave her somewhere without food?!?! lying bitch...sorry) and yet raised this child, torturing her, punishing her for shit she probably had no control over. If Agatha had a father, he definitely didn't protect her. Probably didn't love her, either. Poor Agatha had such a rough start. And this bitch CONTINUES to try and torture her daughter. WTF just die.
Her coven turning on her - trauma, trauma, trauma. Agatha can be callous, but she has shown each of them kindness while they've been on the road. But still they immediately turn on her, frothing at the mouth to punish her, to leave her behind with her mother. Agatha shows genuine fear for the first time and the only one who has empathy is Teen. And Rio, I think, because both Rio and Agatha know that she can't actually do anything to Agatha, and even if Agatha dies, that they'll be together.
Involuntary Power Grab - I believe Agatha when she says that she couldn't control it when she took Alice's power. The same thing happened to her as a young witch. She didn't know that she could do that, that that was something that could happen just from people blasting her with their magic. But, of course, she knew that nobody would believe her. Even the teen boy who had been so enthralled her is blaming her for what happened to his friend. It's grief, I know, but still.
Agatha cries "I can be good" and it breaks my heart (Kathryn better get an Emmy for this one) because this is a middle-aged witch (I'm guessing, Idk how old witches get, but this iteration was probably 20 when they tried to kill her in the 1600's so...eh) who is begging for understanding and forgiveness, for them to take her with them because she is so fucking terrified of her own mother.
And then she inadvertently kills a member of her coven. A member who was trying to save her while the others stood and watched. She didn't mean to do it, didn't want Alice to die, but who's going to believe her based on her past? Nobody.
I believe the also worst fears were for Teen, who had gone into this practically worshipping Agatha, and then he was seemingly proven wrong about her. What everybody else said is correct; Agatha is power-hungry and cares for nobody. She's just a remorseless killer.
Or it could be another part of her own fears. Finally, she has somebody who gives her praise (besides Rio) who has heard all the legends and likes her, anyway. Teen treats her like a hero, like a powerful witch, and goddammit does she care about him. She cares so much about this child, who has become almost like a stand-in for Nicholas. And the way she tries to explain to him, desperate for him to understand her? Ugh, my heart.
I'm gonna trust that Jac Schaeffer knows what she's doing and that the next episode is going to be a sort of Part 2 to this. That we may see either the other hallucinations or what really is happening here.
I, personally, cannot wait.
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Agatha All Along (1.05) Reactions:
THESE CREEPY ASS ANIMAL WITCHES
“… because her own mother tried to have her executed.” Defending her ex-wife <3333
“Are you really defending a noted serial killer, you creepy lurker?” KQKSKJDWIJEJS, never change, Jen
“When Agatha murdered her sister witches, she spared their young children.” Agatha has a noted/known soft spot for children.
LMAO, AGATHA RUNNING IN LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL. “Whoooooa, the moral of the story, kids, is always finish what you started. Also, mercy is overrated.”
I fucking love her so much
“All right, everybody. Pack up your shit. Let’s go!”
Rio being the only one who agrees with Teen suggesting the broom thing.
There being no question that Agatha and Rio are going to exchange brooms. They just DO it. love that Agatha makes rio’s pretty as well
Lilia, criticizing Jen’s broom: “You could have done better.” KQOWOFSJS. All these catty ass witches.
love Teen and Alice’s friendship.😭
The witches flying during a Blood Moon, and they’re all so happy omfggggg. That’s my coven of mothers (and one teenage boy).
AGATHA LOOKING BACK AT RIOOOOOO AUGHSHSHHSHS
SLUMBER PARTY FITS OMGGGGGGG. 80s???? 90s???
I LOVE LILIA’S HAIR
AGATHA’S TRIAL ALREADY??? HELLO??? I thought they’d keep that in their pocket until later in the season.
“And who better than to commune with the dead than someone who’s put so many in the grave?” Rio says with a smirk. Work and play.
“Do not speak over each other.” / [All the witches start speaking over each other.] lmfao
Jen @ Mrs. Hart: “Hey, girl. Feeling better?” AKqoqodjwiowkwjs I would die for her actually
Alice holding Jen by the shoulders 🥹
KATHRYN’S MRS. HART IMPRESSION.
“BAKING CASSEROLES, LINKING IN TO CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON FACEBOOK, DRINKING BEFORE NOON”
AGATHA BEING AN ASSHOLE AOQOWKDJDJSJ. goddamn I love her
“She’s just scared.” Rio clocking Agatha’s shit so easily. When Agatha’s scared, she absolutely puts on a repulsive performance to hide that very fact.
The reluctance in Agatha’s voice when she has to do it for real this time. Hhhghhhhh
“D-E-A-T-H.” Cue Rio laughing.
Agatha being the first to let go out of fear aufhshhshhhhhhhhh
“I hated this the first time!” Lilia’s already seen this particular trial in her premonitions.
HHHHHHHGH, the coven immediately turning on Agatha
“I mean, or we could just slit her throat.” she really loves threatening her wife with knives. <3
“When people ask me why I don’t have female friends.” Lmao, it’s because you’re always in psychosexual homoerotic rivalries with them. Hope that helps, Agatha. <3
FUCKING AGATHA JUMPSCARE GODDAMN
Sweetheart, you okay?” LAOQOWKWJDJEIWIEE
AGATHAS FUCKING MOTHER
“Hey, Mom. It was nice having you in my body for a second there. I’ve never felt so close to you before.” Agatha sounds so young and childish here, and I think that’s exactly the point, both of Kathryn’s acting choices here and the setting of the trial. Agatha is being taken back to her teenage years in a sense where so much of trauma began
Rio, more angry than we’ve ever heard her before: “No, no way!”
“A minute ago, you were ready to slit her throat.” Bc it’s foreplay for Agathario, Jen. Keep up!!
“Yeah, well, her mother can’t have her.” FUCK YES
goddamn, this really is Regina and Cora mills all over again, down to the ghost possession story
“Mom?” The fragile way that Agatha says it.
“Why do you hate me still?”
“You were born evil. I ought to have killed you the moment you left my body” FUCK OFF. NO ONE IS BORN EVIL
Agatha reflexively starts to tear up and Rio looks down. And the rest of the coven sees what clearly made Agatha Harkness too
Agatha fucking BEGGING them not to leave her
“I can be good.” DIDN’T SHE SAY THIS WHEN THEY TRIED TO EXECUTE HER SHUT UP
SOBBING ALICE TRYING TO PROTECT HER. AGATHA DRAINING ALICE. I CAN’T NO NO NO WHAT
AGATHA’S FUCKING SON, CONFIRMING HE’S DEAD
MAMA! STOP!
SOBBING???????
ALICE FUCKING DEAD.
I CAN’T DO THIS
NO
AGATHA GOING TO ALICE IN SHOCK UUGGGHHGFFFFFGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGG AND TEEN REJECTING HER AND—
FUCK I CAN’T BELIEVE ALICE IS GONE GODDAMMIT. SHE JUST BROKE HER FAMILY CURSE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agatha alone, and she’s got a bit of Alice’s powers.
“I couldn’t… I couldn’t control it.” And Agatha swears she’s not lying to him. I think I believe her—that she currently can’t control her own ability kicking in when she’s blasted with powers and that what happened to Alice was an accident, but I equally think that she instinctively and automatically ENJOYS the sensation of the absorption/draining. Very much like a vampire or a succubus—when the power starts flowing, animal instinct takes over.
AGATHA SNICKERING. OH, SHE’S ABOUT TO READ HIM
IS KATHRYN HAHN THAT MUCH SHORTER THAN JOE LOCKE LMAO
“YOU’RE SO MUCH LIKE YOUR MOTHER” YES OMGGGGGG
IT’S BILLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY
AND SHE WALKS OFF CUNTILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Okay, but serious side note here. I think this particular confrontation is in conversation w/ Agatha pretending to be possessed by Mrs. Hart earlier in the episode. When she’s scared/vulnerable, she puts on a show. And the moment when Teen indexes that he doesn’t believe she’s telling the truth about her powers, she LEANS into the villainy. She digs her heels in. It’s protection. It’s control. It’s facade.
JEN AND LILIA THROWING HER INTO THE QUICKSAND. BILLY BLASTING THEM
HOLY FUCK
NOT THE BILLIE EILISH NEEDLE DROP OHBMY GOD?
WHY IS THE EPISODE OVER WHAT
AND WHERE DID RIO GO OOIUFHHSHSHS!!!!!!!!
#agatha all along#s: Agatha all along#Maggie blogs#this episode needed to be longer OMG#I needed moreeeeeeee#also I need 2-3 days to process my grief over [REDACTED]
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1.09 home
there is simply too much to say about home. one of the very few episodes where dean is sleeping actually shirtless (end of 1.10/beginning of 1.11 being the only other example as far as i know?). 1.09 includes just a chaste glimpse of dean's sleeping shoulder. going along with the layers theory we're about to see dean very vulnerable - and oh look!
it's heartbreaking when dean says he doesn't want to go back to lawrence because he swore he'd never go back there. it's heartbreaking when dean says to sam that he needs to pee but he actually ends up crying into his dad's answering machine. mary's ghost burns herself out to save them - heartbreaking.
but it also always strikes me how mean this episode is to dean. not to send any shade missouri's way (she is her own person and spn treats her terribly anyway). but she is consistently harsh to dean in a way that always baffles me. she chides, corrals, and insults him from start to finish - his looks as a child, his need for an EMF meter, him not being "the sharpest tool in the shed." she smacks his head. she threatens to hit him with a spoon if he puts his feet up on her table. she tells jenny that dean (alone) will clean up the mess left by the poltergeist. (sam also offers to jenny that they'll pay for all the damages - with dean's money presumably as he's the only one who's shown getting money and sam already used it to bribe someone in 1.05)
it leaves me confused and a little sad. and it makes me wonder what it means that in this episode, dean is going home. we see mary for the first time since the pilot. we see john for the first time since the pilot. dean's in his old home for the first time since john drove them away.
when they arrive, jenny says she's sure they have many happy memories in this house. and dean makes this face in reply.
of course he has one very specifically terrible memory here. but his glassy, haunted eyes and tight smile make me wonder about the rest.
5.16 makes me wonder... "I just never realized how long you’ve been cleaning up Dad’s messes." 1.20 makes me wonder.... "Hey Dean why don't you touch up your car before you get rust? I wouldn't have given you the damn thing if I thought you were going to ruin it." 2.20 makes me wonder... even in the dream world, dean's the family fuck up.
so i wonder what layers to going home are present here beyond the house and the town.
ps. he looks absolutely ethereal here.
the lashes. the lips. OH!
#spn20rewatch#1.09#1x09#home#i want to build him a blanket fort and feed him candy and soup after that phone call and instead he gets smacked in the head :(((#dean studies
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I've been thinking about teletherics and mica, especially since the appendices for 3.02 is a pocket guide to telethric transduction.
Teletherics is an Un-based technology, and teletheric waves aren't Fold-safe; the appendices for 1.05 mention that they need to be converted for rebroadcast into the Fold along cables for that reason. So, you can't transmit teletheric waves through the Fold. This is also suggested by the fact that Kozma's agenda lists all her teletheric calls after she leaves Midst; she can't have done it before then, in the Fold.
Apparently, teletherics can involve mica. The art of Backpack and her teletheric equipment includes a parabolic dish that uses a shard of mica as a feed antenna. Seeing as teletheric receivers, such as Ginsberg's in the icon for 1.03 and Hieronymous's in art for 3.02, don't feature visible mica, I presume then that her equipment is using it for transmission. If teletheric waves are transmitted using mica, that may explain why they're not Fold-safe. Teletheric signals are, of course, created using specially-boculated electric currents. A mica antenna would interact with that, then radiate it to a receiving teletheric transducer.
As a sidebar, the breakdown of the word teletheric is also very interesting to me: tele- + aetheric. I wonder if the Un is as empty as it seems to be when in compared to the Fold. Perhaps there is some stuff out there in the Un that they have not yet learned to measure. Or, perhaps teletheric is aetheric in the sense of aether theory and the transmission of waves through a medium. Or, in the sense of luminiferous aether and old theories on the movement of light. Or, perhaps in the sense of the mythological personification of the bright upper sky.
If mica is capable of transmitting teletheric waves, how do teletheric signals interact with the mica fields of the Un? Radio engineering is not as simply as any old piece of metal can act as an antenna, there's electric currents and what-not, but in this fantasy world in which our understanding of teletherics and mica is limited, it is a question. (And who is to say that things don't work slightly differently in the cosmos.) Do teletheric signals interact with mica bergs at all? Does wild mica bounce those signals across the Un?
If mica transmits signals, waves, does it have resonance then? Does it vibrate? Do mica bergs make sound as they float through the Un, and is it audible? Or, does it resonate a tone that is below the typical threshold of human hearing, like the third sound of a superfluid?
Hell, while I'm asking questions. Can someone end up with the opposite of what Lark has with the Fold, where they can hear mica resonating through the Un? Is there some soul out there, cosmos whispering to them, who can hear its crystalline tones resonating out across the Un, or the sound of lightning in the Delta or unships passing through the upper Un bouncing off the bergs, or teletheric signals transmitting out through the mica?
But, I'm getting ahead of myself: mica and teletherics and the transmission of sound. I think about teletherics and the shapes of all associated with it. Priathic notation reminds me of neumes, or even modern notation with beams but no stems. The impulses are tonal and have harmonics. Teletheric transducers uses fluted pipes, and those pipes make them look like small pipe organs. With that—
Does mica sing? Can you hear it if you tune in just right?
#I just LOVE asking questions about the way a fictional world works knowing I will never get answers. It's just FUN for me to think about.#What is the material reality of the cosmos!! It's fun to spin questions out of it!#Midst#Midst podcast#Midst things#Midst Cosmos
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Hey, really love your succession meta, I hope this is welcome in your ask box. Idk if this is something you talked about already, but there is this persuasive assumption in the general fandom space that roman was the only kid who suffered physical abuse ever that in my opinion isnt really supported in the text/subtext. The way the past abuse of all the roys is talked about, to me, always implied a wealth of countless, other traumatic experiences that are simply not talked about and may very well be physical abuse. To me it feels like it was set up this way to fire up the viewers imagination and illustrate the sheer, unspeakable magnitude of the abuse. I just cant see Logan never losing his temper and getting physical with the other sibs but I struggle to put into words why. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think Rome was the only kid facing physical abuse? Youre always so eloquent in your analysis and demonstrate a complex understanding of dv dynamics. I appreciate your work :)
Hey! Thank you for your kind words, anon, and it’s definitely welcome in my inbox!
Yeah, I’ve noticed that assumption about Roman a lot too, and it’s not one I personally agree with, although I do understand why people make it. Roman is, after all, the only one of the four children that the show explicitly depicts receiving physical abuse, and he’s the only one who really has his abuse talked about by the other children (interestingly, on both occasions Roman’s abuse is actually weaponised against other characters, not against Roman. Kendall uses it as a way to try and hurt their father in 4.02, and Shiv uses it as a way to say that Kendall deserves greater punishment from their father than he’s receiving in 2.01).
I actually would say that we’ve had pretty explicit evidence that Kendall received physical abuse too, namely in the way that Logan came at him at Connor’s ranch after Kendall’s relapse in 1.07 (especially because I’d argue Kendall was doing in that scene what Roman has done a few times now by seeking out the hit, and the reason Logan held off was less about not wanting to, and more that he punishes his children by not giving them what they want), and in Logan hitting Iverson with the tin of cranberries in 1.05. I talked about the latter in this post, but I’ve always read the blocking of Kendall behind Iverson as a way of having a flashback without having a flashback, and the way that the episode ties Kendall and Iverson’s experiences as the same I think underscores that.
(It’s hard to comment on this particular point without seeing the scripts, but Arian Moayed has said in an interview too that the script for 4.04 had Stewy say that he’d seen Logan through a shoe at Kendall which I do think is likely meant to echo what Shiv says about Logan beating Roman with a shoe in 2.01 too, but given the scene was condensed, I’ll leave it out as canonical evidence at this point).
As for Shiv and Connor, yeah, I do think there was physical abuse for both of them as well, and I think it was probably fairly common for Connor when he was very young, and probably infrequent enough for Shiv for her to push it down (honestly though, given her character, I wouldn’t even be surprised if a part of her re-wrote it in her head as a positive after the fact. Getting hit means, after all, that she’s one of the boys).
So it does beg the question of why Roman’s abuse is easier for them all to acknowledge. I have a few theories about that, but ultimately, I think it comes down to an adolescent othering of Roman by Shiv and Kendall, and all four of their relative proximity to each other in their formative years.
Alan Ruck has said that Connor’s about fifteen years older than Kendall which puts him in a unique situation growing up where I imagine there’s a lot about his childhood through to his young adulthood that the Golden Trio simply don’t know due to the age gap. They obviously know bits and pieces – what happened to Connor’s mother for instance, Logan’s temporary abandonment, and the situation with the cake – but I’d generally say that those are life events that scaffold a childhood, they don’t provide the detail of it.
The child desertion that came with Logan’s temporary abandonment too would also have been extremely formative to Connor as a character. We don’t know when this was (although I do have my own theories on that too), but it would’ve fundamentally changed any existing dynamic between Connor and Logan, and I think we see that quite clearly in the man Connor is. His people pleasing, his co-dependency, his need to control the terms of his relationships (notable in the entire context of his relationship with Willa), his fear of rejection, and his fawn response to certain situations are all symptomatic of childhood abandonment. I imagine a lot of that started after Logan’s desertion, but then likely were compounded with Logan’s re-entry into his life, and I think that grew into his sort of subservience and performed affability which was likely inherently tied to the fear of being abandoned again.
In that sense, I think there was probably less physical abuse with Connor as he got older because he learnt how to navigate their father’s temper and stopped testing it / always acquiesced out of a fear of being deserted again. If most of his physical abuse was when he was a child or a teenager, well, Kendall, Roman and Shiv hadn’t even been born, there’s already a remove for them in terms of their relation to it.
With Kendall, Roman and Shiv, I’ve been thinking a lot lately about Roman being sent away to school in Delaware while Kendall and Shiv were both living with their father still and going to school in Manhattan. There’s a childhood separation there when it comes to Roman, yes, which breeds its own sort of ‘othering’, which I’ll come back to, but I do think there’s a lot of evidence in the show that depicts Kendall and Shiv as forming something between a ‘half and half’ and a ‘trauma-shield’ sibling relationship.
I’m getting a bit scientific here, so I hope you don’t mind, but a half and half sibling relationship is described as consisting of ‘the reenactment of traumatic events with their sibling due to the flawed attachments the sibling has to their caregiver. This sibling relationship is often the most violent, and is seen as a love-hate relationship with each other. This often plays out as the siblings’ relationship becomes too important as a substitute source of nurturing and threatening as a potential cause for abandonment. The siblings are confused about their psychological connection to a caregiver, and act out a push/pull relationship with each other to achieve maximum comfort from that caregiver.’
On the other hand, the trauma shield sibling relationship is when siblings ‘use each other as a shield from the abuse and interrupt the development process. They become fixated at the same developmental level and exhibit similar interpretations of their struggles despite the chronological age difference.’
The show regularly depicts Kendall and Shiv as being mirrors to one another – they are the winning dog, the rightful heir, the only real competition to one another, and now the only two to be parents and continue the lines of succession – and I think we’ve seen the effect that’s had on both their lives. They have moments of genuine intimacy and trust, they defend each other, they reach for each other when things are blowing up and become active participants in each other’s attacks on others, just as they also are the most ruthless with one another, the most violent, they weaponise each other’s weaknesses (both real and perceived) and have tried to ‘kill’ each other more than any other iteration of the siblings.
I also think that they both are in extreme denial about the abuse they received, and I think that they enable that in each other and shield each other from the realities of it which is easier to do when Connor and Roman weren’t there for it, and easier to do when they have each other to reiterate the artifice of their lives. God, one of the things that’s so great about the karaoke confrontation in 4.02 is that it kind of lays that out. Kendall and Shiv work together in that scene in a way that shuts Roman and Connor out at best and at worst uses their abuse and neglect to make a point while never saying anything about what Logan’s done to them. Shiv might bring up Logan advising Tom on the lawyers, but even that is a way around the things we’ve seen Logan do to her, and Kendall’s literally behind her the whole time. They’re in-step in their refusal to acknowledge what their father’s done to them, just as they’re in-step in forcing their brothers’ abuse out into the open to make a point.
I think this dynamic likely established itself around the time Roman was sent away to school, because I think Roman being sent away fed into Kendall and Shiv’s shared narrative that they were the prized children. It likely did have this degree of othering for Roman which emphasised his perceived weakness in the eyes of all three of the Golden Trio, and I think he likely had readjustment periods when coming home for the holidays that did see him hit more. I think those periods likely let Kendall and Shiv off the proverbial hook until he inevitably went back to school, where they could control their own abuse narratives again through their shared understanding of what the ‘story’ was.
This has gotten very long, haha, so look! This is a roundabout way of saying that I think Logan’s parenting style has been divide and conquer for as long as he’s been a parent, and that that has coloured all four of their understandings of their own abuse. The difference is that Connor and Roman were cast out, and the fact of being cast out at all means that abuse and neglect has a light shone upon it. It gets some oxygen, it gets to breathe, which makes it real. Kendall and Shiv weren’t cast out, they were kept together in their father’s house in Manhattan, and I think getting to stay behind closed doors in the dark let them hide even from Connor and Roman. It didn’t see the light, it didn’t get any air, so it was never real. I think it allowed them the ability to hide, deny or re-write their abuse, and I think they used (and still use) each other to do it.
#this is so long anon i am very sorry#i've been thinking about this for a while but especially since 4.02 with the way kendall and shiv worked together against logan#it was Very Interesting#i've done quite a bit of trauma response training recently + have worked a lot in child safety over the last six years so i think i do watc#the show with a particular eye#hbo succession#roman roy#kendall roy#shiv roy#connor roy#logan roy#succession meta#cw abuse#welcome to my ama
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and ALSO now that i'm here i feel like the disgusting brothers era between seasons was a lot softer than they made it out to be. like yeah they probably did double wingman for people together but i feel like a lot of it could also be them going to a bar together and tom never brings up trying to fuck anyone there and greg never questions it or clocks that tom just wants to be there with him, or tom going back to greg's apartment with him on long evenings to stay the night because he doesn't want to risk shiv being at his apartment and they just go through bottles of wine and tom talks about the divorce and the family and ATN and i feel like if anywhere, that's where greg would've caught feelings for tom just because tom's feelings seem a lot more reciprocal from greg after the timeskip than in previous seasons (not saying it wasn't there before but just that i feel like things like the nero&sporus scene would've gone differently if greg felt exactly the same about tom at the time) and i feel like at some point it'd be past midnight, they're in the kitchen talking, and greg looks up at tom and it just suddenly hits him like a ton of bricks, an "oh fuck" type moment of realising why he'd never avoided tom's physical affection and thought otherwise of the way he's been looking at him over all the time they'd known each other and just suddenly BOOM FEELINGS (and then the next night tom came over again like normal but this time they fuck and then never speak of it again)
but anyway
you can't tell me they'd never fucked AT ALL before this episode istg
REAL!!!! oh my gooood 🥺 oh, my heart hurts. i can see this so bad. i think that makes a lot of sense too. after s3 and into s4 somewhere along there they became best friends. they are each others only true, real friend. oh yeah no there was absolutely like. lust between them but. between s3-4 is where the bomb fully dropped. tom’s proposal in 3.09 [he practically gets down on one knee if you watch him, like, who tf sits down like that smh] was the first sign to greg i think that tom was serious about him and wanted to keep him around, and then somewhere in between s3 and 4 is when things fully developed i think. as you say i think it was actually soft times.
as for the fucking, i flip flop on when i believe they did but for now i think i’ve settled on after the episode tom takes him out which is i believe 1.06. i have a whole working theory about 1.05 leading to that but hfhfhfhg yeah. either way i think it’s hard to deny they didn’t fuck at any point in the show, although the first time being post finale is delicious in of itself, too.
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The Missing Episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars
This post has nothing to do with Disney or their movies.
Hello. Star Wars is extremely close to my heart, and extremely important to me. As a narrative and a creative work, I believe Star Wars is unique and distinctive. I believe that Star Wars is now in an unfinished state, and will more than likely remain so forever, but my anti-Disney tirades can go in another post. For now, I simply want to inform you about Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and share my theory that there are episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars being hidden from us.
All information in this post is publicly and freely available from Wikipedia.
Here is a list of every episode of Star Wars: The Clone Wars released before production was cancelled by Disney in 2014, along with seasonal notes.
SEASON 1 (2008) - This season contains 6 standalone episodes, 5 arcs of 2 episodes, and 2 arcs of 3 episodes, covering episodes 1 through 22 of the series. The seasons opens and closes on standalone episodes. As the first season of the series, these formats are all appearing for the first time.
"Ambush" (1.08)
"Rising Malevolence" (1.07)
"Shadow of Malevolence" (1.09)
"Destroy Malevolence" (1.11)
"Rookies" (1.14)
"Downfall of a Droid" (1.02)
"Duel of the Droids" (1.06)
"Bombad Jedi" (1.05)
"Cloak of Darkness" (1.10)
"Lair of Grievous" (1.12)
"Dooku Captured" (1.16)
"The Gungan General" (1.20)
"Jedi Crash" (1.22)
"Defenders of Peace" (1.24)
"Trespass" (1.25)
"The Hidden Enemy" (2.01)
"Blue Shadow Virus" (1.26)
"Mystery of a Thousand Moons" (2.02)
"Storm Over Ryloth" (1.15)
"Innocents of Ryloth" (1.17)
"Liberty on Ryloth" (1.19)
"Hostage Crisis" (2.04)
SEASON 2: Rise of the Bounty Hunters (2009) - This season contains 4 standalone episodes, 2 arcs of 2 episodes, 3 arcs of 3 episodes, and 1 arc of 5 episodes, "Senate Spy" to "Brain Invaders"; this covers episodes 23 through 44 of the series. The seasons opens and closes on 3-episode arcs. The 5-episode arc is appearing for the first and only time.
"Holocron Heist" (1.23)
"Cargo of Doom" (1.13)
"Children of the Force" (2.03)
"Senate Spy" (2.05)
"Landing at Point Rain" (2.07)
"Weapons Factory" (2.08)
"Legacy of Terror" (2.09)
"Brain Invaders" (2.12)
"Grievous Intrigue" (2.14)
"The Deserter" (2.06)
"Lightsaber Lost" (2.11)
"The Mandalore Plot" (2.13)
"Voyage of Temptation" (1.21)
"Duchess of Mandalore" (2.16)
"Senate Murders" (2.10)
"Cat and Mouse" (2.17)
"Bounty Hunters" (2.19)
"The Zillo Beast" (2.22)
"The Zillo Beast Strikes Back" (2.23)
"Death Trap" (2.15)
"R2 Come Home" (2.18)
"Lethal Trackdown" (2.20)
SEASON 3: Secrets Revealed (2010) - This season contains 3 standalone episodes, 5 arcs of 2 episodes, and 3 arcs of 3 episodes, covering episodes 45 through 66 of the series. The season opens and closes on 2-episode arcs.
"Clone Cadets" (3.01)
"ARC Troopers" (3.02)
"Supply Lines" (2.24)
"Sphere of Influence" (2.25)
"Corruption" (3.04)
"The Academy" (2.26)
"Assassin" (2.21)
"Evil Plans" (3.03)
"Hunt for Ziro" (3.05)
"Heroes on Both Sides" (3.06)
"Pursuit of Peace" (3.07)
"Nightsisters" (3.08)
"Monster" (3.10)
"Witches of the Mist" (3.12)
"Overlords" (3.09)
"Altar of Mortis" (3.11)
"Ghosts of Mortis" (3.13)
"The Citadel" (3.14)
"Counter Attack" (3.15)
"Citadel Rescue" (3.17)
"Padawan Lost" (3.16)
"Wookie Hunt" (3.18)
SEASON 4: Battle Lines (2011) - This season contains 1 standalone episode, "A Friend in Need", 1 arc of 2 episodes, "Mercy Mission" and "Nomad Droids", 1 arc of 3 episodes, "Kidnapped" through "Escape from Kadavo", and 4 arcs of 4 episodes, covering episodes 67 through 88 of the series. The season opens and closes on 4-episode arcs. The 4-episode arc is appearing for the first time.
"Water War" (3.22)
"Gungan Attack" (3.23)
"Prisoners" (3.24)
"Shadow Warrior" (3.19)
"Mercy Mission" (3.20)
"Nomad Droids" (3.21)
"Darkness on Umbara" (3.25)
"The General" (3.26)
"Plan of Dissent" (4.01)
"Carnage of Krell" (4.02)
"Kidnapped" (4.03)
"Slaves of the Republic" (4.04)
"Escape from Kadavo" (4.05)
"A Friend in Need" (4.06)
"Deception" (4.07)
"Friends and Enemies" (4.08)
"The Box" (4.09)
"Crisis on Naboo" (4.10)
"Massacre" (4.11)
"Bounty" (4.12)
"Brothers" (4.13)
"Revenge" (4.14)
SEASON 5 (2012) - This season contains 1 standalone episode, "Revival", 1 arc of 3 episodes, "Eminence" through "The Lawless", and 4 arcs of 4 episodes, covering episodes 89 through 108 of the series. The season opens on a standalone episode and closes on a 4-episode arc. This is the first season since Season 1 to open on a standalone episode, and the first season to open and close with episodes/arcs of different lengths, as well as the first season to have fewer than 22 episodes; it contains only 20 episodes.
"Revival" (4.26)
"A War on Two Fronts" (4.15)
"Front Runners" (4.16)
"The Soft War" (4.17)
"Tipping Points" (4.18)
"The Gathering" (4.22)
"A Test of Strength" (4.23)
"Bound for Rescue" (4.24)
"A Necessary Bond" (4.25)
"Secret Weapons" (5.04)
"A Summer Day in the Void" (5.05)
"Missing in Action" (5.06)
"Point of No Return" (5.07)
"Eminence" (5.01)
"Shades of Reason" (5.02)
"The Lawless" (5.03)
"Sabotage" (5.08)
"The Jedi Who Knew Too Much" (5.09)
"To Catch a Jedi" (5.10)
"The Wrong Jedi" (5.11)
SEASON 6: The Lost Missions (2014) - This season contains 1 arc of 2 episodes, "The Disappeared, Part I" and "The Disappeared, Part II", 1 arc of 3 episodes, "An Old Friend" through "Crisis at the Heart", and 2 arcs of 4 episodes, covering episodes 109 through 121 of the series. This is the first season to contain no standalone episodes.
"The Unknown" (5.12)
"Conspiracy" (5.13)
"Fugitive" (5.14)
"Orders" (5.15)
"An Old Friend" (4.19)
"The Rise of Clovis" (4.20)
"Crisis at the Heart" (4.21)
"The Disappeared, Part I" (5.16)
"The Disappeared, Part II" (5.17)
"The Lost One" (5.18)
"Voices" (5.19)
"Destiny" (5.20)
"Sacrifice" (5.21)
The series had 5 seasons conventionally constructed, intentionally sequenced and released weekly on television, and 1 season released in bulk on a streaming service, Netflix. Altogether, this covers 121 episodes of the series released before Disney's interference.
However, this is not all of the information we have. You'll notice that, next to every single episode title, there is a sequence of two numbers. This sequence is that episode's production code; the first digit is the production block, while the next two digits are the episode's particular order within the production block. This information is more pertinent for a look at the series from a production standpoint, so here is that information put together:
BLOCK 1 - This block contains episodes from Seasons 1 and 2.
1.02 - "Downfall of a Droid" (S1E6) 1.05 - "Bombad Jedi" (S1E8) 1.06 - "Duel of the Droids" (S1E7) 1.07 - "Rising Malevolence" (S1E2) 1.08 - "Ambush" (S1E1) 1.09 - "Shadow of Malevolence" (S1E3) 1.10 - "Cloak of Darkness" (S1E9) 1.11 - "Destroy Malevolence" (S1E4) 1.12 - "Lair of Grievous" (S1E10) 1.13 - "Cargo of Doom" (S2E2) 1.14 - "Rookies" (S1E5) 1.15 - "Storm Over Ryloth" (S1E19) 1.16 - "Dooku Captured" (S1E11) 1.17 - "Innocents of Ryloth" (S1E20) 1.19 - "Liberty on Ryloth" (S1E21) 1.20 - "The Gungan General" (S1E12) 1.21 - "Voyage of Temptation" (S2E13) 1.22 - "Jedi Crash" (S1E13) 1.23 - "Holocron Heist" (S2E1) 1.24 - "Defenders of Peace" (S1E14) 1.25 - "Trespass" (S1E15) 1.26 - "Blue Shadow Virus" (S1E17)
BLOCK 2 - This block contains episodes from Seasons 1, 2, and 3, tied with Block 4 for the most seasons within a single block.
2.01 - "The Hidden Enemy" (S1E16) 2.02 - "Mystery of a Thousand Moons" (S1E18) 2.03 - "Children of the Force" (S2E3) 2.04 - "Hostage Crisis" (S1E22) 2.05 - "Senate Spy" (S2E4) 2.06 - "The Deserter" (S2E10) 2.07 - "Landing at Point Rain" (S2E5) 2.08 - "Weapons Factory" (S2E6) 2.09 - "Legacy of Terror" (S2E7) 2.10 - "Senate Murders" (S2E15) 2.11 - "Lightsaber Lost" (S2E11) 2.12 - "Brain Invaders" (S2E8) 2.13 - "The Mandalore Plot" (S2E12) 2.14 - "Grievous Intrigue" (S2E9) 2.15 - "Death Trap" (S2E20) 2.16 - "Duchess of Mandalore" (S2E14) 2.17 - "Cat and Mouse" (S2E16) 2.18 - "R2 Come Home" (S2E21) 2.19 - "Bounty Hunters" (S2E17) 2.20 - "Lethal Trackdown" (S2E22) 2.21 - "Assassin" (S3E7) 2.22 - "The Zillo Beast" (S2E18) 2.23 - "The Zillo Beast Strikes Back" (S2E19) 2.24 - "Supply Lines" (S3E3) 2.25 - "Sphere of Influence" (S3E4) 2.26 - "The Academy" (S3E6)
BLOCK 3 - This block contains episodes from Seasons 3 and 4.
3.01 - "Clone Cadets" (S3E1) 3.02 - "ARC Troopers" (S3E2) 3.03 - "Evil Plans" (S3E8) 3.04 - "Corruption" (S3E5) 3.05 - "Hunt for Ziro" (S3E9) 3.06 - "Heroes on Both Sides" (S3E10) 3.07 - "Pursuit of Peace" (S3E11) 3.08 - "Nightsisters" (S3E12) 3.09 - "Overlords" (S3E15) 3.10 - "Monster" (S3E13) 3.11 - "Altar of Mortis" (S3E16) 3.12 - "Witches of the Mist" (S3E14) 3.13 - "Ghosts of Mortis" (S3E17) 3.14 - "The Citadel" (S3E18) 3.15 - "Counter Attack" (S3E19) 3.16 - "Padawan Lost" (S3E21) 3.17 - "Citadel Rescue" (S3E20) 3.18 - "Wookiee Hunt" (S3E22) 3.19 - "Shadow Warrior" (S4E4) 3.20 - "Mercy Mission" (S4E5) 3.21 - "Nomad Droids" (S4E6) 3.22 - "Water War" (S4E1) 3.23 - "Gungan Attack" (S4E2) 3.24 - "Prisoners" (S4E3) 3.25 - "Darkness on Umbara" (S4E7) 3.26 - "The General" (S4E8)
BLOCK 4 - This block contains episodes from Seasons 4, 5, and 6, tied with Block 2 for the most seasons within a single block.
4.01 - "Plan of Dissent" (S4E9) 4.02 - "Carnage of Krell" (S4E10) 4.03 - "Kidnapped" (S4E11) 4.04 - "Slaves of the Republic" (S4E12) 4.05 - "Escape from Kadavo" (S4E13) 4.06 - "A Friend in Need" (S4E14) 4.07 - "Deception" (S4E15) 4.08 - "Friends and Enemies" (S4E16) 4.09 - "The Box" (S4E17) 4.10 - "Crisis on Naboo" (S4E18) 4.11 - "Massacre" (S4E19) 4.12 - "Bounty" (S4E20) 4.13 - "Brothers" (S4E21) 4.14 - "Revenge" (S4E22) 4.15 - "A War on Two Fronts" (S5E2) 4.16 - "Front Runners" (S5E3) 4.17 - "The Soft War" (S5E4) 4.18 - "Tipping Points" (S5E5) 4.19 - "An Old Friend" (S6E5) 4.20 - "The Rise of Clovis" (S6E6) 4.21 - "Crisis at the Heart" (S6E7) 4.22 - "The Gathering" (S5E6) 4.23 - "A Test of Strength" (S5E7) 4.24 - "Bound for Rescue" (S5E8) 4.25 - "A Necessary Bond" (S5E9) 4.26 - "Revival" (S5E1)
BLOCK 5 - This block contains episodes from Seasons 5 and 6.
5.01 - "Eminence" (S5E14) 5.02 - "Shades of Reason" (S5E15) 5.03 - "The Lawless" (S5E16) 5.04 - "Secret Weapons" (S5E10) 5.05 - "A Sunny Day in the Void" (S5E11) 5.06 - "Missing in Action" (S5E12) 5.07 - "Point of No Return" (S5E13) 5.08 - "Sabotage" (S5E17) 5.09 - "The Jedi Who Knew Too Much" (S5E18) 5.10 - "To Catch a Jedi" (S5E19) 5.11 - "The Wrong Jedi" (S5E20) 5.12 - "The Unknown" (S6E1) 5.13 - "Conspiracy" (S6E2) 5.14 - "Fugitive" (S6E3) 5.15 - "Orders" (S6E4) 5.16 - "The Disappeared, Part I" (S6E8) 5.17 - "The Disappeared, Part II" (S6E9) 5.18 - "The Lost One" (S6E10) 5.19 - "Voices" (S6E11) 5.20 - "Destiny" (S6E12) 5.21 - "Sacrifice" (S6E13)
Looking at this list, gaps are plainly evident. 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, and 1.18 are all missing, and Block 5 is 5 episodes shorter than the previous 4 blocks. Where are these episodes?
The missing episodes from Block 1 are easy; they were cannibalized and stitched together to make the Star Wars: The Clone Wars film. The film is 98 minutes long, while episodes of the series are typically around 22 minutes long; 22 minutes per episode times 4 episodes is 88 minutes total runtime, 10 minutes short of the film's runtime. Those 10 minutes are likely the credits and polishing for the film's theatrical release, if not simply the episodes themselves being slightly longer.
Therefore, we can add these to the list:
1.01 - The Clone Wars Film (FILM) 1.03 - The Clone Wars Film (FILM) 1.04 - The Clone Wars Film (FILM) 1.18 - The Clone Wars Film (FILM)
This resolves the issue of the missing episodes from Block 1, meaning that all of the episodes produced before 5.22 were released. This gives us a total of 125 episodes. But what about Episode 5.22 and the rest of Block 5?
This is where the trail gets murky. Fans of the series who were around when it was cancelled may recall The Clone Wars Legacy, the plan to release content from the series in different means in order to not waste the work that went into it. Some may think that this simplifies things. In fact, it does the opposite.
Here is a list of all the content from The Clone Wars Legacy:
Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir, a comic adapting a 4-episode arc covering Darth Maul's story after getting captured by Darth Sidious at the end of "The Lawless", released by Dark Horse Comics.
Dark Disciple, a novel adapting either an 8-episode arc or two related 4-episode arcs covering Asajj Ventress' story after her last appearance in "The Wrong Jedi".
Crystal Crisis on Utapau, a rough story reel of incomplete episodes of a 4-episode arc, covering the emotional fallout of Ahsoka's departure from the Jedi Order after the events of "The Wrong Jedi".
The Bad Batch, a rough story reel of incomplete episodes of a 4-episode arc, intending to work as a backdoor pilot of sorts to a spin-off series focusing on the titular Bad Batch.
Those keeping track of the numbers will quickly spot that we have the content of 20 episodes released as The Clone Wars Legacy. This does not easily fill in the gaps we have, nor does it finish things off neatly.
The production codes of the original episodes adapted into the material for The Clone Wars Legacy are known. The production codes of the in-production 20 episodes are listed below:
BLOCK 6 - This block has 16 known episodes.
6.01 - "A Death on Utapau" (REEL) 6.02 - "In Search of the Crystal" (REEL) 6.03 - "Crystal Crisis" (REEL) 6.04 - "The Big Bang" (REEL) 6.09 - "The Bad Batch" (REEL) 6.10 - "A Distant Echo" (REEL) 6.11 - "On the Wings of Keeradaks" (REEL) 6.12 - "Unfinished Business" (REEL) 6.13 - "Lethal Alliance" (BOOK) 6.14 - "The Mission" (BOOK) 6.15 - "Conspirators" (BOOK) 6.16 - "Dark Disciple" (BOOK) 6.21 - "The Enemy of My Enemy" (BOOK) 6.22 - "A Tale of Two Apprentices" (BOOK) 6.23 - "Proxy War" (BOOK) 6.24 - "Showdown on Dathomir" (BOOK)
BLOCK 7 - This block has 4 known episodes.
7.05 - "Saving Vos, Part I" (BOOK) 7.06 - "Saving Vos, Part II" (BOOK) 7.07 - "Traitor" (BOOK) 7.08 - "The Path" (BOOK)
While we can add these to the list of produced episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, this raises more questions than answers. Not only was there a Block 6, but there was also a Block 7 as well. Block 7 is nearly entirely unknown, while Block 6 also has gaps, and, to top it all off, none of the things we gain from this are in Block 5, meaning those episodes are still unknown as well.
However, we do gain one answer from this: the production blocks got shorter. The last episode of Block 6 is 6.24, not 6.26 as one might expect from Blocks past. This makes Block 5's gap a little more clear-cut; it means we're only missing 5.22 through 5.24. That's 3 episodes, a common arc length. If Block 5 was as long as the other blocks, that would be 5 episodes missing, which could be either a 4-episode arc and a standalone episode, or a 2-episode arc and a 3-episode arc. All still common arc lengths, but not as clear-cut.
Of course, there's no definitive proof that the blocks got shorter. It's possible there'a 5.25 and 5.26 and a 6.25 and a 6.26. That would be a 2-episode arc missing from Block 6, as well.
The only "proof" I have seen stating that the blocks got shorter, besides the lack of trails for a theoretical 6.25 and 6.26 confirming that Block 6 remained the same length, and therefore Block 5 must have, as well, is a statement by Pablo Hidalgo on Twitter, stating that there is no 5.25 or 5.26. I do not know where he gets his information from, and his relationship with Lucasfilm is murky to me, so I'm hesitant to just accept it as fact. There's also the fact that he could be lying to cover Lucasfilm and/or Disney for the sake of money and employment.
This is not an allegation or a statement of belief, merely an acknowledgement of possibility.
However, the production blocks do seem to be 26 episodes long specifically just to cover the film initially, which leaves 22 episodes for the regular season; since Season 5 definitively got reduced by 2 episodes, it's entirely possible that the production blocks did also get reduced by 2 episodes, and the new season length merely reflects this.
All this does is muddy the waters, however. Without solid answers, we've got next to nothing to go on.
Except Disney.
Of course, Disney resurrected the rotting corpse of Star Wars: The Clone Wars to be completely sure that the money well within was completely dry, before discarding it and moving on to whatever live action thing they're working on now. These episodes do, however, give us some information. Listed below are the episodes Disney released:
BLOCK 6
6.05 - "Gone with a Trace" (DISNEY) 6.06 - "Deal No Deal" (DISNEY) 6.07 - "Dangerous Debt" (DISNEY) 6.08 - "Together Again" (DISNEY)
BLOCK 7 7.21 - "Old Friends Not Forgotten" (DISNEY) 7.22 - "The Phantom Apprentice" (DISNEY) 7.23 - "Shattered" (DISNEY) 7.24 - "Victory and Death" (DISNEY)
While these episodes have been "adapted" (read: scrubbed and censored) by Disney, the fact that they continue to use the original production codes leads me to believe that these episodes originated as original episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. However, they've been written or additionally written by Dave Filoni, who, aside from assisting with one episode ("Lethal Trackdown", S2E22, 2.20), was not a writer on the series until after Disney bought the property; he was a director. This tells me that the direction he took the episodes in was not their originally intended direction, but rather, the Disney-approved direction given to him. This says, to me, that we cannot pull any information from these episodes besides possibly basic premises, as these are not the original episodes with renewed production, but new "adaptations" of what was being produced when the series was cancelled.
However, this does give us new information, in telling us that the final episodes of Block 7 were the finale of the series. This feels too large of a fact to be new or changed; I feel that, while the content and direction of 7.21 through 7.24 may have changed, them being the series finale is just too big of a basic premise to ignore or change. If it isn't, then why make those episodes the finale of the revived series? Why not 7.01 through 7.04, or invent new numbers in 6.25 through 6.28?
Therefore, going off that conclusion, we have a solid ending point: 7.24, the end of the final production block, Block 7.
This also supports the idea that the production blocks get shorter with Block 5, as, while 5.24 is not known, both 6.24 and 7.24 seem to be the end of their blocks.
Therefore, with all this information, I feel we can see a basic roadmap of where Star Wars: The Clone Wars was going to go, and what Disney took from us. Looking at a list of the production blocks:
Block 1: 26 episodes Block 2: 26 episodes Block 3: 26 episodes Block 4: 26 episodes Block 5: 24 episodes Block 6: 24 episodes Block 7: 24 episodes
If all information is correct, this means LucasFilm were planning on producing 176 episodes of the series. Looking at a list of the released episodes before the buyout:
Season 1: 22 episodes Season 2: 22 episodes Season 3: 22 episodes Season 4: 22 episodes Season 5: 20 episodes Season 6: 13 episodes
This means that LucasFilm released 121 of their ostensibly planned 176 episodes. Adding the 4 episodes used for the film gives us 125.
Subtracting these two gives us a figure of 51 episodes remaining. These 51 episodes were likely in various stages of completion when the buyout occurred.
Looking at the seasons, Season 6 is not constructed like the rest, but rather, a bulk release of product. Assuming that Season 5 was intended to be the new model going forward, we can subtract 7 of those 51 unreleased episodes to round out Season 6 to it's intended length of 20 episodes.
This leaves us with 44 episodes. Divide that by 2, and you get 22 episodes. 22 episodes for a theoretical Season 7 and a theoretical Season 8.
Out of the 51 episodes not completed and released by LucasFilm, 28 have been adapted and released via other means. This leaves at least 23 episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars about which we know absolutely nothing, listed below:
5.22 5.23 5.24 6.17 6.18 6.19 6.20 7.01 7.02 7.03 7.04 7.09 7.10 7.11 7.12 7.13 7.14 7.15 7.16 7.17 7.18 7.19 7.20
These include a 3-episode arc from Block 5, a 4-episode arc from Blocks 6 and 7, and almost the entirety of the middle of Block 7.
These numbers are not solid. It's possible that Blocks 5 through 7 were intended to be 26 episodes as all the others were. That would add 6 episodes, for 182 planned episodes, and 57 uncompleted, about which we know nothing about 29 of them.
It's possible that Seasons 5 and 6 were intended to be 22 episodes as all the other seasons were, and things simply didn't work out that way. This would mean 11 episodes would be needed to round out the seasons, rather than 0 for Season 5 and 7 for Season 6.
This could leave us with 40 or 42 episodes to divide between a theoretical Season 7 and 8. 2 seasons of 20 episodes, or a season of 20 and a season of 22.
There are many possibilities, wrapped in shadows and behind closed doors, regarding this series. We will likely never know the facts, simply because the facts are nebulous and were not, nor ever will be, solidified.
But we can know for sure is that the original intended versions of Blocks 6 and 7, plus the final 3 episodes of Block 5, will likely never be finished, and that we have lost George Lucas' original vision for this series. Those 51 episodes, while potentially getting adapted, will never be released or even completed the way they were originally intended.
(Although George Lucas has stated previously that Star Wars is "like poetry, it rhymes", this series does seem to be lacking in rhyming. Production blocks and season lengths both change midway through, and there seems to have been intended 8 seasons, which is annoyingly only 1 short from matching the intended number of Star Wars movies: 9.)
This is a tremendous shame, because Star Wars: The Clone Wars is a fantastic series which lovingly and accurately adapts a big-screen property for the small screen, tells a dense, varied, but cohesive story, and expands the universe that so many of us have loved since 1977.
We wanted to know about the Clone Wars since that time, and we finally got it. While we may never see the original, epic conclusion, we should still be grateful for 6 seasons of wonderful television.
This post was typed listening to the theme for Star Wars: The Clone Wars on repeat for about 3 hours. As stated at the top, all information is publicly and freely available on Wikipedia.
Thanks for reading.
#Star Wars#Star Wars: The Clone Wars#LucasFilm#George Lucas#Disney#Dave Filoni#Netflix#Darth Maul#Asajj Ventress#Ahsoka Tano#The Bad Batch#Star Wars: The Bad Batch#This post does not speak positively of Disney so if you're an ardent Disney defender I would skip this one
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It's such a shame that the behaviour of that very loud part of the fandom makes it so difficult or even impossible to discuss and enjoy the show online. It's always important to curate your own space when it comes to fandom, but it's exhausting when it comes to iwtv. I watched the show for the first time a few weeks before season 2 aired and was taken aback at how willfully ignorant such a big part of the fandom is when it comes to the story as well as coming after you the second you don't idolize Lestat, it's ridiculous. And in part I think that's also amc's fault. They could shut up these fans by marketing the show for what it is, as a scary, character driven vampire show, that deals with heavy themes, but instead, just like Anne Rice and her worshippers they just make it about romance. The relationships are an intergral and important part of the story, but by never having your actors or writers discuss the dark themes that surround them, the way the story is talked about online (and in the news or official interviews) gets tiktok-ified. No depth or anything, it's such a shame. It seems like the writers and actors are aware of the deeper aspect of the story and I think they so far did a great job at making the story so much better than anything Anne Rice created, but amc is simply not interested in marketing it that way. (if the show ever gets to adapting The Vampire Armand, I might just leave the internet for a few years, because there is no way I want to see any takes of those people regarding his childhood and Marius, like, it's going to be awful)
If you got into the fandom just before s2 started i can tell you i feel it was even worse during and after s1. Back then the fandom was so small and those white anne rice fans were the most prominent voices in the fandom and anyone new instantly came across them, post 1.05 many fans just straight up decided the abuse didn't really happen (this is still a thing among some fans but in s1 it was like full tjlc-sque theory and very popular). Even though i still often see shitty posts and tweets i feel those book fans are much less prominent and loud in the show fandom now, though it could be partially because i have them blocked so i'm less likely to see it lol. Amc's marketing is a mixed bag because i think some of it has actually been solid and captured the tone of the series, but then you also get stuff like them telling interviewers to not ask Jacob about race and giving screeners and gifts to book fans who hate the show
#i never watched it but it's crazy that certain particularly awful 'fan' got an exclusive interview with levan#mail
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Main Alias/Moniker: Cyclops
Legal Name: Scott Daniel Summers
Other Aliases: Cyke, Slim, Scotty, Summers, One-Eye, Shades, Hot Shot, Risky Business, Ray Charles, Buddy_Holly
Date of Birth: August 13, 1986 (Age: 19)
Status: Alive
Species: Mutant
Sex: Male
Gender: Cisgender
Height/Weight: 5’9’’ (1.75 m) / 162 lbs (74 kg)
Hair/Eye Color: Hair/Eye Color: Brown / Brown (Glowing Red Almost Constantly)
Timeline (1986 - 1996): Scott didn't want to write up his own file. Something about a conflict of interest. So here I am. I choose to believe that means he sees me as capable as himself, since Scott otherwise takes his duties as a TB pretty seriously. There are still a ton of personal details I wasn't able to get from Scott directly, but I did get from Jean with Scott's consent, and I'd say that's about as good a verification as any.
Scott has had a rough life, but what he went through wasn't what entirely made him into who he is. When corresponding with Alex, it sounds like Scott was always a bit of a quiet kid, the kind who preferred to play around with his LEGO bucket than go outside. The family moved around a lot, which probably didn't help Scott with making friends. That's probably why he seemed to cling to Alex in these days. Even though Alex was super-young back during this time, he still vividly remembers Scott being very protective, helping Alex with his math homework and cleaning him up whenever Alex got scuffed up. Poor Scott might have been able to catch up on his social skills, were it not for everything that came next.
Timeline (1996 -1998): Now, even those among us here on Stars & Stripes, the full details of what went down at the Starcore Incident remain unclear. We have a prevailing theory, but pending the approval of an actual, real-life alien onto the Brigade (Rick himself has been vouching pretty hard for this Marvel guy, so it shouldn't be too long), all we know for certain was that Canadian billionaire Peter Corbeau wanted to get humankind into space, and someone else didn't want that. And because Chris Summers was the chosen pilot for the spacecraft and invited the rest of the family to the lunch site to watch him fly off, they all got caught in the crossfire.
First, Scott watched the spacecraft carrying his dad get shot out of the sky. Next, his mother rushed him and Alex into a convoy and rushed off the launch site as it was being bombarded from above. Scott's mom didn't get far and was swerved off the road. Pinned to the car from the wreck, she pleaded to Scott to lead Alex into the woods and keep him safe, but the brothers only made it out a little bit before Alex broke down in hysterics. As Scott tried to tend to Alex, he saw from afar two figures aiming a shot. When Scott shoved Alex out of the way, the blast that hit the ground then flung Scott into the air, striking his head against a boulder and knocking him out cold.
What happened next is much less speculative, but no less nasty. That monster Essex, he somehow found Scott and took him to his clinic in Arkansas. Over the next year, Scott was kept in the clinic's basement, sedated but conscious enough to be subjected to Essex's experiments, all to extract and toy with Scott's X-Gene. What finally pulled Scott out of it was Jean, when she became a guest of the clinic herself. The connection was hazy, but the mental impression of a red-headed girl around his age gave Scott enough focus to finally escape. His optic blasts cleared an entire concrete wall, and Scott blindly ran off into the Ozarks.
Waking up a year later, clear across the country, and suffering not only from intense migraines, but what seemed like lasers bursting out from his eyes to say that Scott was overwhelmed would be an understatement. This was how he fell prey to Jack Winters, a jewel thief who was operating in the area at the time. Winters came up with half the solution to Scott's optic blasts, and gave him a nice pair of Ray-Bans. They weren't as effective as his later custom ruby lenses, with Scott literally burning through his shades over time, but it was enough to entrust Scott to Winters, who became his lookout and accomplice in his crimes.
Scott's blasts would still sometimes get out of control, and enough random arsons made in this stealing spree caught the attention of Agent Duncan, who then reported the situation to the Professor. It all came to a head when Duncan assembled the local law enforcement to corner Winters in his latest raid. Desperate, Winters opted to hold Scott hostage, only to find his body becoming immobilized. The Professor then telepathically instructed Scott to exit the store, where the two then had a more proper introduction once the cops rushed in to detain Winters.
Timeline (1998 - 2004): With the help of Agent Duncan and Professor Xavier, Scott was sent to live with his grandparents in Alaska, where he lived a much more stable Iife for the next few years. Scott still wasn't much of a social butterfly, but his traumas didn't completely cripple him, either. During this time, Scott got super-introspective, getting into meditation and martial arts (Huge fan of Bruce Lee). He also got involved in his school's sailing and journalism clubs, which is how he met his one and only high school friend and confidante, Lee Forester. Speaking with Lee, Scott around this time didn't sound much different from how the rest of us know him for, save for being even more stiff and reserved. And, knowing what he just went through back then, I honestly don't blame him.
This was also around the time Scott first got into sleuthing. Not only having been victimized by forces he didn't understand, but also just insanely curious about his mutant nature, Scott first fell into his habit of never being able to leave things be. It's probably what ended up having him become one of Rick's earliest recruits into the Brigade. Scott never managed to uncover the full truth of what truly went down at Starcore, but he did at least track down Alex. He chose to remain with his adoptive family in Vancouver, but the two brothers remained in touch.
Speaking of keeping in touch, Scott maintained contacts with Xavier all throughout this time. The Professor hooked Scott up with his first pair of ruby shades, and frequently held check-ups on Scott's condition and his own private testing of his mutant power, and Xavier was completely open to any and all questions Scott had about mutants, of which there was apparently a lot. I can personally attest to this, the Professor is one of the few people Scott can become an absolute chatterbox about. He trusts him out of all of the original team. So when the Professor called Scott to come to New York following graduation to help him with a social study on the mutant experience, Scott left Alaska without a second thought.
The first day he stepped foot into the Mansion, Scott was met with his literal dream girl. Apparently, his face grew as red as his glasses, and then when Jean attempted to greet him telepathically he then rushed out of the room. The two tried again with the introductions eventually, but it would still take a bit more time for Scott to open up to Jean. All the other non-mind-readers of the First Class, it was a whole lot smoother. Scott got along with Hank pretty well. The two bonded not only on mutant issues (Scott with the social aspect, Hank with the genetics), but also because the two now had a sparring partner with their martial arts hobbies. There was a brief pecking order once Wren entered the picture, one that Scott didn't feel like dignifying and let Wren believe she was the leader of their little group, for the time being at least. The two even worked together when Bobby got into his legal troubles, and because of that Bobby was especially fond of the two of them.
Soon enough, Scott found himself in a friend group he could trust and depend on, and he believed in the Professor's whole dream wholeheartedly. So when the Brotherhood invaded Santo Marco and created an an international incident, it was a lot for Scott to take in. He looked for the Professor for guidance, only for Xavier to shut himself off entirely, taking the whole situation even worse. Hank told Scott and the others of the whole history between Xavier and Magneto, and the story sparked something in Scott. With a little encouragement from Jean, Scott first rallied the rest to take action, and then cajoled Xavier to let them take their training to the test. It took a lot of convincing, but eventually the group piled into the Professor's fancy private jet, ready to sneak into Santo Marco and change history.
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#earth93#marvel#fanfic#comics#comic books#xmen#marvel mutants#cyclops#scott summers#jean grey#marvel girl#professor x#mister sinister#havok#alex summers#x men comics#uncanny xmen
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I did the Community episode sorter. According to the sorter these are my top 10 episodes.
1. cooperative calligraphy (2.08) 2. mixology certification (2.10) 3. contemporary american poultry (1.21) 4. physical education (1.17) 5. emotional consequences of broadcast television (6.13) 6. virtual systems analysis (3.16) 7. origins of vampire mythology (3.15) 8. foosball and nocturnal vigilantism (3.09) 9. regional holiday music (3.10) 10. accounting for lawyers (2.02)
sounds about right.
Full ranking behind the cut - some rankings may shock you.
rankoptions 1 cooperative calligraphy (2.08) 2 mixology certification (2.10) 3 contemporary american poultry (1.21) 4 physical education (1.17) 5 emotional consequences of broadcast television (6.13) 6 virtual systems analysis (3.16) 7 origins of vampire mythology (3.15) 8 foosball and nocturnal vigilantism (3.09) 8 regional holiday music (3.10) 10 accounting for lawyers (2.02) 11 pillows and blankets (3.14) 12 studies in modern movement (3.07) 13 paradigms of human memory (2.21) 14 basic email security (6.06) 15 messianic myths and ancient peoples (2.05) 16 abed's uncontrollable christmas (2.11) 17 advanced dungeons and dragons (2.14) 18 critical film studies (2.19) 19 basic rocket science (2.04) 20 for a few paintballs more (2.24) 21 epidemiology (2.06) 22 early 21st century romanticism (2.15) 23 intermediate documentary filmmaking (2.16) 24 basic rv repair and palmistry (6.10) 25 social psychology (1.04) 26 anthropology 101 (2.01) 27 introduction to film (1.03) 28 romantic expressionism (1.15) 29 beginner pottery (1.19) 30 curriculum unavailable (3.19) 31 course listing unavailable (3.18) 32 urban matrimony and the sandwich arts (3.12) 33 applied anthropology and culinary arts (2.22) 34 basic crisis room decorum (6.03) 35 the science of illusion (1.20) 36 spanish 101 (1.02) 37 basic lupine urology (3.17) 38 home economics (1.08) 39 modern espionage (6.11) 40 bondage and beta male sexuality (5.07) 41 environmental science (1.10) 42 advanced advanced dungeons and dragons (5.10) 43 a fistful of paintballs (2.23) 44 aerodynamics of gender (2.07) 45 celebrity pharmacology (2.13) 46 communication studies (1.16) 47 intro to political science (2.17) 48 advanced criminal law (1.05) 49 vcr maintenance and educational publishing (5.09) 50 introduction to teaching (5.02) 51 asian population studies (2.12) 52 documentary filmmaking: redux (3.08) 53 digital exploration of interior design (3.13) 54 geothermal escapism (5.05) 55 advanced safety features (6.07) 56 modern warfare (1.23) 57 introduction to statistics (1.07) 58 analysis of cork-based networking (5.06) 59 cooperative polygraphy (5.04) 60 ladders (6.01) 61 competitive wine tasting (2.20) 62 biology 101 (3.01) 63 remedial chaos theory (3.03) 64 interpretative dance (1.14) 65 comparative religion (1.12) 66 investigative journalism (1.13) 67 intro to recycled cinema (6.08) 68 the psychology of letting go (2.03) 69 football, feminism, and you (1.06) 70 conspiracy theories and interior design (2.09) 71 custody law and eastern european diplomacy (2.18) 72 competitive ecology (3.04) 73 horror fiction in seven spooky steps (3.05) 74 geography of global conflict (3.02) 75 pilot (1.01) 76 contemporary impressionists (3.11) 77 cooperative escapism in familial relations (4.05) 78 herstory of dance (4.08) 79 advanced documentary filmmaking (4.06) 80 advanced gay (3.06) 81 basic human anatomy (4.11) 82 the art of discourse (1.22) 83 english as a second language (1.24) 84 the politics of human sexuality (1.11) 85 debate 109 (1.09) 86 app development and condiments (5.08) 87 basic intergluteal numismatics (5.03) 88 repilot (5.01) 89 grifting 101 (6.09) 90 basic genealogy (1.18) 91 digital estate planning (3.20) 92 intro to knots (4.10) 93 g.i. jeff (5.11) 94 paranormal parentage (4.02) 95 history 101 (4.01) 96 economics of marine biology (4.07) 97 introduction to finality (3.22) 98 the first chang dynasty (3.21) 99 advanced introduction to finality (4.13) 100 basic sandwich (5.13) 101 basic story (5.12) 102 wedding videography (6.12) 103 queer studies and advanced waxing (6.04) 104 pascal's triangle revisited (1.25) 105 lawnmower maintenance and postnatal care (6.02) 106 laws of robotics and party rights (6.05) 107 heroic origins (4.12) 108 conventions of space and time (4.03) 108 alternative history of the german invasion (4.04) 108 intro to felt surrogacy (4.09)
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BAD BUDDY FILMING LOCATIONS 5
This post continues my four previous ones (linked here: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 and Part 4) on filming locations for Bad Buddy. This instalment focuses more on Pran’s Architecture Faculty.
While there were a fair number of locations made to stand in for what they weren't (e.g., service apartments for PatPran's student accommodation, and various places for the Zero Waste Village) Pat and Pran's faculties were actually represented by the engineering and architecture faculties at Rangsit University (RSU).
The location of RSU's Architecture Faculty, representing Pran’s Architecture Faculty at SouthTechnology University is shown in the map below:
The Faculty of Architecture is one of the newer buildings on campus, and is recognizable by its external orange accents and heavy use of dark, charcoal-gray walls both inside and outside.
If the building looks familiar, that's because it's been featured in a number of other Thai BLs, including Secret Crush on You, Not Me and Theory of Love. 😍
Perhaps the most iconic BBS scene filmed here was Ep.10's khan maak, and it was staged on the main steps of the RSU Archi Faculty:
(above) This image of the Archi Faculty steps is from RSU's Faculty of Architecture Facebook page (linked here) and is dated 12 May 2017
In the image above, the gray verticals to the left of Pran are actually tensile cables, while the yellow-brown construction behind him is a 2020 architectural student project (a pavilion made out of corrugated cardboard):
You can see them more clearly in the video below:
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The staircase where Pat trails Pran after their shared lecture (Ep.3 [2/4] 1.05) is also in the Architecture Faculty:
The above is an image from Google Maps, taken by Sasin Vibulbandhitkij (Toey) and dated June 2019 (linked here); the dark gray color scheme, door viewing panels, open staircase risers, steel I-beam stringers and wide-spaced staircase balustrades are all a match, although this may not be the exact same staircase – nonetheless what is especially diagnostic is the break in the handrail and balustrade when the staircase railing changes direction at the landing (also visible in the image at the top that shows Pat trailing Pran)
The café where Wai, Safe and Louis tease Pran regarding Pat's anonymous gift of khanom thong yod (Ep.2 [2/4] 3.00) was actually Decons Café, also within RSU's Faculty of Architecture Building:
The above is an image from Facebook (linked here) dated 2 February 2022; except for the potted plants below the counter, this image is a match for Ep.2 [2/4] 3.00 – note the easel signboard, illuminated counter sign, the vertical bars flanking the counter, the rough cast plaster finish of the walls, and the white-framed windows behind the counter
The image below (dated 9 June 2022) is also from Facebook (linked here); for Bad Buddy they used the picnic tables in the background, moved to where the loose tables and chairs are:
Pran's architecture workroom was also located at RSU's Architecture Faculty:
(top) Ep.1 [1I4] 2.22; (above) Ep.3 [1I4] 14.20
(above) This close-up of the Architecture Faculty façade that shows rectangular glazing behind sunshading made up of horizontal fins supported by vertical trusses, matches the windows that we see in the background at Ep.3 [1I4] 14.20
(above, left) This image dated 27 June 2022 from RSU'S Faculty of Architecture Facebook (linked here) has the same dark gray walls and distinctive worktables (with a double-ply worksurface and black-framed legs) that we see at Ep.1 [1I4] 2.22 and Ep.3 [1I4] 14.20); (above right) the chairs in this photo dated 15 Aug 2012 from the same Facebook (linked here) are a match for what we see in BBS at Ep.1 [1I4] 2.22 and Ep.3 [1I4] 14.20
Lastly, the Lecture Theater that Pat and Pran have shared lectures in was also located at RSU's Architecture Faculty.
(above) This Lecture Theater in a photo dated 13 June 2018 from RSU'S Faculty of Architecture Facebook (linked here) is not the same as the one we see in BBS, but the interior has the same details (meaning that PatPran's LT should be part of the same suite, elsewhere in the faculty); corroborating details are the gray walls, two types of seating (one black, one white), as well as wifi routers that match what we see at Ep.3 [2/4] 0.51
(top) Ep.3 [2/4] 0.37 – note the white seating; (above) Ep.4 [1I4] 15.50 – note the black seating
That's all for this post – more to come later. As world travel is now opening up, more and more Bad Buddy fans are traveling to Thailand and touring the filming locations – I'll try to get more BBS locales identified and posted so hopefully these posts can help be a guide.
In the meantime, do check out @theriptideaesthetic's Tumblr (linked here) for updates on their trip to visit BBS's filming locations! 😍
[Afterpost Edit: here are the links to all the filming location posts:
Part 1 – The legendary rooftop, PatPran’s student apartments, their high school, the white arches behind the Engineering Canteen, the Zero Waste Village and various seaside scenes, their honeymoon suite, the hospital where Pat was treated for his gunshot graze, and the high school reunion.
Part 2 – Pat and Pran’s family homes, the Flagpole Bar, the car park fight location, and the Jae Si Curry House.
Part 3 – Various locations at and around the rugby field, including Pat’s photoshoot with Ink, the rugby bleachers, the iced milk tea (and green tea wave) picnic table, InkPa’s photography picnic, the old bus stop and the new bus stop. Also Khun Noppharnach’s pharmacy.
Part 4 – Pat’s Engineering Faculty (in and around Rangsit University’s College of Engineering).
Part 5 – Pran’s Architecture Faculty (Rangsity University’s School of Architecture).
Part 6 – Various F&B and commercial locations (eateries, shops, malls and a market). Also the setting for Pat, Pran and Wai's fight at the base of PatPran's student apartment building, as well as the scene where Pa says to Ink "Anyone taller than me is fine".
Part 7 – Pat’s post-graduation apartment and Pran’s residence in Singapore.
Part 8 – Various campus locations filmed within Rangsit University’s Digital Multimedia Complex, including the auditorium and the Freshy Day Song Contest.
Part 9 – The LogTech Building and Pran’s architectural office in Singapore.
Part 10 – Locations for the Our Skyy 2 x Bad Buddy special episodes.
Part 11 – The apartment for rent that Pran went to view in Ep.2, the elevator scene with Pat just after the viewing, and Wai’s apartment.
Part 12 – PatPran’s elementary and high schools, as well as the location of Pa’s near-drowning.
Part 13 – Random locations (Pran searching for his lost earphones, the covered car park where Wai spied on Pat serenading Pran with Nanon's Love Score, the airport car park, the SouthTech U Library, PatPran's rainy day ointment interlude, their motorbike and truck rides in Hua Hin, the approach road to Uncle Yod's bar, the filming location for the music videos Just Friend? and Our Song, and Pran's street address in Singapore).
Will update this list if I can track down the hardware stores – the one remaining location still unidentified! 🤣]
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1899, 1.05- "The Calling"
Well, I'm both really sad and sort of horrified. Also stunned? This is a wild show that's for sure, and I feel like it got far darker out of nowhere this time. I'm worried that this is my last time saying that Krester broke my heart, but he really did. Not only was his scene with Tove so eye opening, the promise he made for them to leave once they got to safety in America, but I really felt like he was starting to listen to her. "Killing" the Boy didn't do anything to ease the pain he felt over Ada's death, and I think he was beginning to see that he wasn't in the right place at all. But... then that ticking clock started. I was freaking out the whole time, and after Ying Li's mother started to leave, I got so worried about Krester, hoping he wouldn't be one of them, and then he stood and started walking. Thus began me chanting "stop him stop him stop him stop him" at my laptop, hoping his father would succeed in that, only for Krester to ultimately jump. And that was when I cried. I don't trust deaths on this show, though, so I don't trust that he's dead-dead until it's all said and done. If he comes back, I won't be surprised. And... let's be real, that's what I'm hoping for- enough people died that this feels sort of Infinity War-ish, and I'm not sold that they'll leave them all dead.
I am curious how Ángel will respond to Krester's presumed death. He was definitely really shut down while the jumping was happening, and Ramiro... Ramiro's so good, I love him. He's so sweet for how he took care of Ángel when he found him, but Ángel clearly did really have some sort of feelings for Krester, so seeing what that does to him will just be really interesting I think. I'm also wondering how Krester's death may change Ángel and Ramiro's relationship? Ramiro seems prepared to reconcile in the face of all that death, likely considering it worthless to stay angry when so many people are dying. But, as much comfort as Ramiro provided Ángel in that moment, he cared about Krester, and Krester is dead. Will he want to reconcile knowing it could easily be Ramiro next? Is that a risk he'll want to take? I'm so torn on this, because I love it when couples work through things, but also, Ángel was pretty terrible to Ramiro- I think if he puts in the work and doesn't just sweep the things he said and did to him under the rug, I'll be happy, but I need to see that first before I can really support that couple.
However, I am again being pulled back into liking Lucien and Clémence together. I can definitely tell now that he loves her, and I am so ridiculously curious why she married him if she didn't love him. Clearly she has feelings for Jérôme, who really came through for her and protected her and Lucien from the call, but what is the connection there and what is the connection between her and Lucien? I don't have terribly much to say about them for this episode, other than wondering what sort of conclusion they're headed for between the three of them, and worrying a bit that either Lucien or Jérôme will die so that Clémence won't have to choose between them? I don't know. I'd like for no one else to die after what happened with the call, but I am too used to these sorts of shows to think that that's at all plausible.
So, the big mystery- and also digging into Maura's history. I'm feeling really solid in my theory that Daniel is her husband now and that the Boy is her son. Somehow, I think her father created an experiment on the Prometheus, which she was a part of, and he's now repeating the experiment on the Kerberus- hence the reveal at the end of "Project Kerberus". The Boy and Daniel said they hadn't gotten this far before, and I noticed that the Boy was trapped in the cupboard on the Kerberus in exactly the same way as they found him on the Prometheus, and he got locked up right before the call went out. Was that the last thing which happened during Project Prometheus, and now they've somehow gotten further than that in trying to break out of the experiment? I have no idea, but I like to think I'm figuring something out. Only way to find out, though, will be to watch some more!
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1.07 hookman
supernatural does more racism :/ i really dislike how casually taylor dies. i'm not ideally placed to assess these things (im white) and maybe it doesn't feel that different from how jill dies in 1.05. but it does feel like the classic (bad) horror trope of the black girl dies first and punishing her for being sexual. i think sometimes supernatural has overarchingly positive takeaways about race (rarely mind. but one is coming up in 1.08 i think) but on an individual level it sucks how people of color are treated throughout this show. (kevin my best boy im so sorry. linda you deserved so much better. billie i will avenge you i swear (not a comprehensive list))
the episode opens once again with sam pushing to find john, and dean just wanting to work a case. i talked about this in 1.01 but sam really is the only one looking for john in season 1. dean knows john will find them when he wants to.
rewatching this in full reminded me of the claim made to me last week that sam is framed as a damsel in distress. which was really funny because lori was literally right there whimpering and screaming. but ok.
anyway, here's some pics of dean that make me feel SuperNormal
there is a layer to dean's expressions while burning the reverend's bones that feels weighty to me. and i like my pet theory (which i haven't talked about yet here sorry) that you see dean in fewer layers when he's feeling more emotionally vulnerable. so far we've had 1.03 (claims he's not scared. he is. claims he doesn't have nightmares. he does (see 15.16 for direct parallels)) and 1.06 (shifter stealing his clothes and running around assaulting people while looking like dean). that reading opens up the possibility that there is something about the preacher's violence which more specifically upsets dean but that is i think going beyond just interpreting scenes into doing Specific Readings (which is also fun i think! just different)
#spn20rewatch#1.07#1x07#hookman#im catching up and ill stop spamming the dash soon maybe im sorry#idk how many people who follow me even look at my posts#feel free to lmk if this rewatch stuff is annoying#im having fun but suddenly feeling super self conscious#spn is my special interest and i could literally yap about it nonstop forever#but you can stop me <3#dean studies
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CRYSTAL SPECIFIC SEASON 2 QUESTION
About the remembering thing. There’s isssss kind of some stuff in later s2 episodes that Crowley says about memory that could support Grey’s “they don’t remember” perspective. Like at the very least it’s fuzzy for Crowley specifically. With him not remembering working with specific other demons/angels or Jim saying it “hurts to remember” and Crowley says “I know. Do it anyway”. Although those could also be chalked up to Crowley just not giving a fuck abt the ppl he’s talking to
shfhshfhdj yeah the whole time i was arguing w grey i WAS going "tg he doesn't have the later-season evidence." i think that the crowley heaven memory loss theories are deffo valid and there are certainly moments that seem foreshadowy but i think that crowley simply dgaf about the ppl he was talking to since there's also plenty of evidence of her remembering heaven (off the top of my head, talking about the fall in 1.05, knowing which nebulas they built in 1.04, "something we said to scare the cherubs" in 2.01, and telling gabriel about the discussions regarding designing gravity in 2.03). could definitely be a mix of clear/hazy/implanted memories in there, though!
- Crystal :)
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