#(tbh though he would love that. Barry loves his speedsters.)
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Honestly though the fact that Barry Allen has not yet figured out (still) the connection between his yearning for companionship and people getting HIT BY LIGHTNING is the funniest thing in the world. His father in law told him it was happening and he was like 'what? me? nooo I'm just a normal guy--' and proceeded to be in denial forever. And then twenty more people got hit by lightning because he had no Wally West around.
#there's this one flashback in one of Wally's comics where Barry's talking to Russians he just saved#and thinking about how if everyone in the world had superspeed we would have a more unified global community#and I was just like#Barry. Barry no. Barry you can't just make the whole planet into speedsters!!#(tbh though he would love that. Barry loves his speedsters.)#He's so lonely.
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I feel like the fandom would be divided about Morgan. On the one hand, I feel like the Tumblr girlies would get really attached to her and probably girlboss-ify her, but every other website (reddit Twitter etc) would be really hostile because gods forbid a woman have complex emotions and not just be an accessory to a man
Oh 100%. Tumblr loves a strong female character (and it helps that she’s white, so she wouldn’t get as much hate as Iris does), they’d love her! So would TikTok tbh, they love Caitlin even separately from KF (except the parts of TikTok Flash fandom that likes pitting the characters against each other based on feats/powers—they wouldn't like her much)
And yeah, other parts of fandom wouldn’t like her as much. She’s not old enough to ship with Barry over Iris (canonically too, not ambiguously like Jesse), she’s fiercely defensive of Iris and befriends her first, her powers aren’t normally* as strong as speed, ice, or vibes...and she’s not a comics character—she’s a döppelganger of one but “not as cool” (not a speedster, really), which wouldn’t help her impression in the eyes of the fandom. And not to mention the number of times she fights with Barry...YIKES a good chunk of the fandom would hate her for that. No one (except they) are allowed to disagree with Barry in their eyes 💀
*they can be, and they will be, but that’s not the norm, especially since she uses them more defensively than offensively. Certain parts of the fandom would call her “weak” for that
I also feel like she’d be a prime suspect for fans in s1—they suspected Eddie of being the RF, and I think they’d also suspect Morgan of being his informant (despite there being no discernible connection beyond “he’s my friend’s boyfriend”, though one could argue they’re just faking that distance). Even when RF is revealed to be Eowells, I think fans would still suspect that she's the RF’s informant for a while, and probably call Barry stupid for not suspecting the same.
OH and she’s aroace too, so the fandom would also be prone to infantilizing her. That would be a general trend tbh, even here on Tumblr. They’d probably also ship her with other people (in a non-QPR way) 💀 as people on this site do with aroace characters
(and just wait until they find out about RF!Morgan on a different Earth 😬 I can see people preferring her to Morgan, or using her as proof that Morgan has the potential to turn evil, or something like that)
how would the fandom treat my OCs (any of them) if they were canon?
#oc ask game#oc: morgan wells#and if we're talking about how the show itself would write her...oh boy#i have Thoughts#very very salty thoughts 😅
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I was tagged by @sunny-reys , thank you darling!
rules: list your favorite male characters from ten different fandoms and tag ten people to do the same
1. Sirius Black- from Harry Potter
tbh I have a lot of favorite characters from harry potter, but he has always held a special place in my heart, even when I first read the books
2. Kaz Brekker- from the Grishaverse
ah yes, we love one of our favorite morally grey cane-wielding boys. I love how complex his character and I love how kanej was handled in the books and the show. I was split between him or the darkling but the darkling is my favorite villain not character so there's some clarification. also, 2 words Freddy mf carter.
3. Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield's version)- from Marvel
don't get me wrong I love Tom Holland's spider-man characterization, but I've adored how charismatic Andrew's peter was in TASM 1 and 2. Also his I loved the real chemistry between him and Gwen. Also, they are a source of my internal Bi panic.
4. Leo Valdez- from the Riordanverse
I love my resident fire bender tinkerer. also, I would love to be him so I can control fire lol
5. Zuko- from Avatar, The Last Airbender
speaking of firebenders, we can't forget our brooding crown prince of the fire nation. He had a redemption arc he deserved and tbh he was one of my cartoon crushes.
6. Caspian X- from Narnia
oh come on, did you not expect that I wouldn't include one of ben's characters in this list. (considering my obsession with him I think you did). Anyways I loved his accent in PC but was really sad when they told him not to do it in VODT. But yes Ben Barnes is technically a Disney prince/king so yeah.
7. Charles Xavier- from X-men
He is a charming telepath and tbh we all wanted to read minds and have enhanced intelligence. Oh yea and James McAvoy, enough said.
8. Barry Allen- from the DC universe
Tbh I hate the TV show after season 2 of The Flash, but with that in mind I loved his boyish charms in the first season and he was just an adorable speedster (but I still prefer Pietro lol)
9. Stiles Stilinski- from Teen Wolf
I strive to be as witty and sarcastic as Stiles. Though he is used as comic relief sometimes in the show, he's an interesting person and the only human in the pack
10. Steve Harrington- From Stranger Things
MOMMA STEVE! yes steve is the best mom the kids could have and I absolutely adored him in 2nd season and loved the dynamic that him and the kids have with each other
no pressure tags: @songofpatrochilless @chatnain @aniqua @confuscita @ilovemarvelanne1 @cupids-crystals and anyone one that wants to join!
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I so so so wish we heard about the other speedsters more on this show because haters and team flash alike still act like they didn't know a speedster needs a lightning rod to keep them out of the darkness, to keep them balanced, to keep them from getting lost in the speedforce. Jay has Joan. Wally was supposed to have Linda. If Barry had another speedster to talk about that more with, preferably not Thawne, then it'd be a no brainer next time. I've seen complaints about Iris being the key amongst all those scientists. Well, guess what, the smartest scientist in the room told Barry to run towards love. Barry may be everyone's hero, but Iris has always been his hero since childhood. We tried the ASF earlier with all the Welles, but none of that amounted to the love of Barry's lightning rod to create the real speedforce. The science is right there, whether you value Iris as Barry's wife or not.
You pose interesting points anon. On one hand, I think people like looking at Barry and Iris as this unique level of soulmate tying into their “lighting rod connection”. But looking at the whole thing through a sci-fi lends does make it feel more concrete than uniquely emotional. If they did highlight other speedsters connections to love and lighting rods, it could help drive the overarching point home that speedsters need a deep connection to humanity in order to thrive. Thawne could even be a good example of the other side, what happens when a speedster is void of love, lacking in humanity - all they can create is a force for anger and hate.
Honestly though, I think most of that hate comes from people who try to downplay their closed mindedness (to put it mildly in this context) views by saying Barry is “too emotional” for simply ... loving his wife and showing human emotions in emotionally traumatic situations (how dare he right?). So the argument that ALL speedsters are emotionally driven by love would likely fall on deaf ears. Even if you tried to approach it scientifically by means of a trend.
It’s a shame honestly, in my eyes this portrayal of Barry Allen has been breaking barriers around how a superhero is suppose to behave on an emotional level. If only the haters could take away the lessons that it’s okay to be emotionally vulnerable, and that emotional connections drive the world like the show has been constantly and consistently preaching for the past 7 years. But if they haven’t gotten it by now, I don’t know that they ever will. I’m also not sure why they’re still watching the show tbh lol
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Can I have a matchup for DC, Naruto, Marvel, and X-Men. I'm African-American with really short hair. I tend to be optimistic, clingy, talkative, and a but lazy. I'm a Sagittarius and i like to cook, bake, sing, dance and play sports. I'm 5'7 and i also have glasses and cannot see really well without them. I love to read books and listen to music. I usually stay up all night and wake up late, but overall i'm a funny person to be around. Thanks for the matchup.
My parents said I need ‘sleep’. Is that something I can eat?? Anywho I’m feeling finishing requests lmao, so enjoy!
Naruto, Marvel, X-Men, DC Matchup
Narutoverse~
1) Inuzuka Kiba! He’s a very optimistic and go lucky person, but he’s definitely capable of taking it slow and having lazy days. Kiba has such a great sense of humor so you two would have a lot of fun together. He’s not much of a reader, but I could see him listening to you read aloud. Such a night owl and NO ONE can tell me different. Even though in canon he’s not a Sagittarius (cancer) he has a lot of the same traits and would make a great match for you!
2) Hatake Kakashi! Although he’s not overly optimistic himself, he would love that you are (it might even rub off on him!). Kakashi is so touch starved it’s not even funny, he would need your cuddles to survive tbh. Reading would be a big thing for you guys, even if you’re not one for Icha Icha type novels. He has his own Kakashi Humor™ and if you get it he’ll love you forever. Just like Kiba, he might as well be a Sagittarius his personality is so alike. Honestly, he’d love you forever.
Marvel Cinematic Universe~
1) Peter Parker! People say that opposites attract but in this case the more alike the better! Both your personalities overlap in a lot of areas. He’s naturally such a happy, glass half full person, just like you, and his sense of humor is to die for. Like, have you seen him in the comics?? Y’all would have a GOOD time. He’s so smart, he has to be reading constantly, no debate about it. You’d best believe he’d live for your physical affection like someone please hug this boy. Are we sure he’s not a Sagittarius??
2) Pietro You-Didn’t-See-Me-Stealing-Your-Girl? Maximoff! (You lucky sis, that’s all I’m saying) Okay, but he’s always smiling and smirking and stuff? Like this silver-haired hottie will never let you frown. I mean, he’s fricking hilarious. Will not only talk your ear off (in the best way possible ofc) but he will just be holding onto you too. 24/7. He’s too energetic to sleep all night, he has so much energy it’s as if he’s constantly high on 17 espresso shots and a few Monsters. Loves to listen to you talk while he works on stuff, chores, paperwork, whatever. It helps him take his mind off boring things. case you couldn’t tell he’s my favorite
X Men~
1) Kurt Wagner! Yep, yep, yep, I’m pretty sure you own this blue baby’s heart. He’s such a happy little cinnamon roll (please love him omfg). He’s talkative but he likes to listen as well, so don’t worry about rambling or anything of the sort. So clingy. Like what else is his tail for except to wrap around you?? He’s not lazy, per se, but he would love to relax with you. He’s not a night owl, but he would be willing to stay up late with if you wanted him to. He’s so adorably funny like his humor is different from the others’, it’s a lot purer, that’s for sure.
2) Warren Worthington III! Bet you’re surprised, but bear with me! After all the crap Warren has been through, he needs someone optimistic and easily excited. Someone who loves to just hold him and make him feel safe and loved. He’s not talkative in the slightest but he enjoys hearing you talk because he loves having your attention and your voice definitely soothes him. When he’s not busy, he’s lazing around Shikamaru style (with alcohol). Growing up in a wealthy business family, reading was definitely important, but he doesn’t do it as often anymore. He’s the kind of guy that’s has a very subtle humor, but he is very funny when he wants to be. Stays up all night and wakes up early for about five days before crashing the sixth day in a continuous cycle. please take care of him he can’t do it on his own He’s a libra, so you two are definitely meant to be!
DC Universe~
1) Dick Grayson! There are never negative vibes in this man’s cereal. Expect him to always be happy, but when he’s not he will definitely need you to calm him down, probably with light-hearted things. Clingiest man ever, physical affection is his love language, IMO. He’s always up late as Nightwing, so if he found you waiting up for him after patrol he would MELT. Would probably like to read with you on his lazy days, actually. Dick is a Libra, which is a very compatible sign with Saggitarius, so it’s written in the stars.
1) Barry Allen! Congratulations, girl, you managed to attract not one, but TWO speedsters. Just like you, Barry is all smiles and rarely has bad days. You know it, I know it, and your neighbor knows it; Barry is the clingiest mofo ever. You must accept cuddle puddles all the time. I can just imagine you and Barry rapid-fire talking and topic jumping all the time cause you’re both so talkative. He’s a genius, so I can assure you he reads quite a bit. Just like Pietro, he’s a night owl because of his overabundance in energy, but before he got his powers, he was not fond of staying up late. He’s an Aries making you two a great match! Good luck to your friends keeping up with you two though...
#naruto scenarios#requested#mcu#avengers#marvel#dc universe#xmen#matchups#kiba inuzuka#hatake kakashi#peter parker#pietro maximoff#kurt wagner#warren worthington iii#dick grayson#barry allen
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You left me ✘ Barry Allen Imagine ✘
✘ A/N: I'm not even gonna talk about my delay because y'all know me. School's last year is busyyyy. Also, angstttt. Tbh I do not consider this one too much angst. But well. I'm having seconds thoughts about the result but let's see it!
Beta: @lyss-91.
CHECK MY MASTERLIST (bio).
✘ Request: Can you do a Barry Allen X reader and Barry comes home from work and Y/N is gone because she got powers and she couldnt control them so she Avoided Him bc she didnt want to hurt him.
3 HOURS AGO
You looked around with a helpless smile. Every molecule of your body aching, trying to make yourself stop at that exact spot in the middle of the room and wait for him, not just walk through the door and run away.
But you knew that this was the closest act of doing the right thing you would ever do. It wasn't your wish to leave, it was an altruistic need.
You held the piece of paper with her trembling hands while stared at your unique calligraphy in the tough words written there. A single cold tear slipped down your cheek, landing on the letter; proof that it hurt as much as you'd demonstrate into words.
You sniffed and shook your head, pushing these feelings away from your rationality. Doing this was necessary.
Your scarlet boots echoed on the wooden floor as you walked toward the door.
A thump, the door closed.
And there was no love left inside the apartment.
×××
CURRENT TIME
Dear Barry,
No. That could not be happening. It wasn't possible, not even an imaginary option. Someone had tampered with this, right? He was a forensic scientist, he could grab it, take it to the lab and-
Oh Jesus. That’s so cliché, huh? Dear and blah, blah, blah. Not exactly my cup of tea - I always wanted to say that-, the only romantic cliché that I ever experiencied was those annoying butterflies in my stomach everytime you touched my skin.
No, that wit sugary could not be simulated. It was you, his girl.
See? I mean, read? You, even when not by my side, make me act like a chick-flick romance. Bleh.
But that’s not the point. The point is... God, how do I say it without breaking our hearts?
Well, I don’t think there’s a politely way. Even though I'm a writer, I can't make it look softer.
I’m leaving you, babe.
Or the girl he thought that was his.
I’m so sorry, I really am. As much as I know that you won’t believe me, I beg you to do so: I love you. Deeply, desesperatly. Pure as the angel that you are, strong as the devil that I am, I love you. Always did, since the first time that you saw me. Or should I say stalked me on Jitters? Boy, that was creepy.
Barry Allen's first instinct was to laugh softly, as he always did when it was something about you. (Y/N), the love of his life, the incarnated affirmation of such a theory like love at first sight when he rolled his eyes at something Cisco spoke at Jitters - mission: coffee and brownie for Iris and Caitlin - and looked to the side, accidentally laying the green orbs on you, not many months ago. Unfortunately, any sign of happiness or lightness was braked in the deep of the Flash's throat.
You were leaving.
(Y/N), abandoning him.
Something happened. You know how that blue-haired metahuman, who Iris wrote about could control water molecules? I can control fire by myself.
I have no idea how it happened, if anything exploded again or some anomalie inside my blood made BLOW. The thing is, if you look inside our room, you’ll notice that some places are burned. I tried to cover it as best as I could. I wish I could say that is what it is, just this small accident.
But, of course it’s not.
His heart was racing faster than his feet ever could, almost exploding. The air in his lungs was scarce, Barry could feel his throat closing as he gasped in opposition.
It felt like having a panic attack, just as he had when he was a child after his mother's death.
Once again, someone Barry loved was leaving. And he could not do anything about it. Not even now that he was Flash.
He was still that impotent eleven-years-old boy.
Our postman, Mr. Charles, that old, gentle old man? He showed up today while I was home. As aways, he was really atencious, asking about me and you. When we’d get married. But when he extended his arm to give me the mail, I accidently burned his hand.
Holy hell. He tried to process it, though only more questions came to distance the answers, just like his worry about you. You must be feeling so bad, so scared, so... Alone. And Mr. Charles, how was he? Was he still alive? Barry wanted to run. Either with his eyes to finish reading it or with his feet to go away, to you. Yet, there The Flash was paralyzed.
He is okay. Alive, at least.
Reading it was, at least, a relief. Charles was a good man. Unfortunately the good news was attached to a catastrophic thing, as always. After all, Barry Allen did not win, only The Flash did.
He wondered why. Why (Y/N) would do this? He could have helped you, the whole Team Flash could. They dealt with similar things, even worse; they could train you until you found the power of self-control. They would have everything in hand.
The ugly answer came hard and fast, like a punch in the face.
Barry didn't tell you that he was The Flash. In his mind, for noble reasons. Protection. He loved you more than anything and wanted you to stay alive to love even more. The hero did not think that would have such brutal consequences. You screaming when you'd find out? Breaking something? Sleeping with a friend for a few nights? All this was understandable. Painful, but fleeting.
But that? That was fatal.
I love you with every piece of my human being body. You’re the blood in my veins, the happiness in my smile. My sun to the Moon that I am. And that’s why I need to leave.
With the powers of his persona, Barry no longer had to worry about some trivial things. His mind taking too long to understand something was one of those. But at that moment, his brain was in a chaotic loop, which would leave a wound open for a long time.
If he'd gotten home two minutes faster, maybe it would not have happened. If he had been honest with you from the beginning, he could be comforting you now. So many 'ifs' and only a reality.
If I hurt you, I wouldn’t survive. Neither would you.
Barry's body was burning. What an irony. It was like he was about to vomit, hands shaking. The tears did not come, too frightened to see the outside world that called them so persistently. Was it his system trying to save himself by noticing that his heart was deteriorating, his senses were already leaving him?
We could just be sleeping and suddenly you'd get a burn. Or worse. I can't deal with that. I can't be okay with being around people while I am not able to control it. Me.
How strange. I always saw metahumans as people and not its. Clearly, because they are. No matter how bad they've become. Yet, right now all I feel is like an it.
I became a it.
I wonder if they felt like that. If I'll ever feel as powerful as some of them seem to.
I need to go, Barr. To far away, to find answer.
The forensic scientist knew he could faint anytime, he was giving up his own mind.
Keep being everything this worlds needs, my nerd.
Always yours,
(Y/N).
You were out there. Alone, scared. Of course, you could handle yourself. He was fully aware of that. Still, Allen knew how hard it was to deal with such powerful things. Especially when your contact time with the new part of yours was so horrendous.
And it was his fault. He felt it.
All of it.
Barry ran away and checked the city countless times, that only took a few seconds. (Y/N) wasn't anywhere to be seen, she had probably even left the state. He went back to the apartment, grabbing the letter again. Rethinking and oscillating between his human and heroic speed to do so.
He'd lied to you for months, and still had the audacity to kiss you and promise things that he clearly could not keep up. Barry Allen let his bright star melt and trickle down his pale fingers, hurting both him and you in the process.
And (Y/N) was gone.
His mother was gone.
His father was gone.
Finally, his body forgot that foolish resistance, surrounding to its breakdown. The Scarlet Speedster, Barry fell to the ground in a thundering noise, the tear-stained letter crumpled in his right hand while he put his head between his legs and cried as hard as he could.
He was gone.
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Wally West Headcannons
Because I love him and I can:
- He plays the piano really well. He learned because of his superspeed; since his perception of time also got affected, Alfred suggested to Batman to suggest to Barry that he learns the piano in order to have a tangible outlet for staying in real time. Wally doesnt broadcast it that much since it’s more of a stress reliever/coping mechanism all his own- but it is an occassional party trick he’ll whip out to surprise and impress people. Also, Alfred most definitely went “undercover” to teach little, freshly speedstered Wally the piano (as that was just a few years before he knew Batman’s secret identity)
- Wally ( and Barry ) speak a lot of langauges. I mean, they run around the world a lot and Wally relies heavily on food to sustain his speeds. It makes sense that he would stop for food a lot and as Flashes, the two would like to chat or help out with some local trouble, etc. So every year, Barry and Wally learn a new language together. They started with the “love languages” and quickly broadened their horizons.
-The language thing is actually an unspoken competition for them to speak more languages than Batman (I looked it up- he speaks 24 languages including Kryptonian) So of course the majority of the Justice League wants to help out their favorite speedsters. Superman lets Wally study in his Fortress of Solitude, Wonder Woman teaches them Greek and Latin, Shayera teaches them Thanagarian, M’Gann teaches Wally enough Martian to get by, Green Lantern sends language videos/books from fellow Green Lanterns to help Barry and Wally learn random alien languages that Batman isn’t likely to speak, etc. By age 23 Wally can speak 32 languages with imperfect fluency ( he’s awful with proper accents but has impeccable grammar )
-Bonus: Shayera basically refuses to teach Batman her langauge and her and Barry mock Batman by speaking it together whenever he’s in the room.
-Before Wally got his speed, he had a motor tic where he would blink a couple times and duck his head occassionally with an arm twitching out.That tick transferred over after he got superspeed but now its really fast and looks like a really fast spasm/cold chill. No one mentions it but they all think its incredibly endearing.
- Sometimes Wally slips into “relative time” where everything slows down. This tends to happen most while he’s reading or problem solving or doing homework and things like that- Sometimes he’ll be reading a book at what seems like a normal pace for him... until the pages are burning from the speed he was flipping them at. From an onlooker, Wally will start to blur along the edges and books genuinely appear to spontaneously combust.
-For his birthday one year, Dick Grayson tried to get Wally a really fast kindle that could match Wally’s “relative time” reading speed- after three versions blowing up, Wally and Dick agreed that books might be safer/less expensive anyways.
-People quickly learn that if they loan Wally a book... its likely to come back toasted or in ashes. So... no one really loans him books more than once.
-Wally runs in his sleep :)
-It’s not so much a headcannon as it is pure cannon, but Speedsters can’t get drunk since their metabolism is so fast that their body runs right through it. On Wally’s 21st birthday, GL brings him some alien booze thats like crazy strong and Wally hoofs it (as he is used to doing with no repercussions. ) He’s drunk for, like, three days.
-Also, on a sad note: While Wally’s powers are on the fritz and sort of killing him, He doesn’t tell anyone about it. Dick Grayson figures it out when he plays a drinking game with Wally where he takes normal alchohol shots and actually gets a little tipsy.
-Also, in regards to the Young Justice universe: I think Wally ( a guy who willingly got struck by lightning and doused in chemicals ) would not give up the hero biz. His powers were killing him and Barry and Artemis benched him- and out of solidarity, Artemis benched herself as well. Wally didn’t want to tell anyone - and as it was already majorly difficult for him and in the understanding that he deserves some control- Artemis and Barry agreed to keep it secret. Basically: Batman, Iris, Barry, Artemis and Hal Jordan know. Hence some frustration when he would jump in to help in “emergencies” - though anyone who knows Wally basically knew he did that with that exact reasoning in mind. That- in an emergency- he wouldn’t want anyone knowing he shouldn’t be helping...
- Wally can’t vibrate through solid objects for a while... He learns how to do so when he gets kidnapped or something and is super desperate. But when he does vibrate through things... they blow up. This is something he honestly can’t control for about as long as he couldn’t initially vibrate through things- but when he does learn to control it, he can still blow things up if he wants to ( eh, some pseudo science about speed and particles and things. )
- Wally is basically always covered in ice and plastic wrap, especially his shins.
- Wally is pretty nervous around storms. He sort of hates lightning. I suppose, if you were struck by it then it makes sense to understand and be wary of it happening again. That doesn’t stop Dick and Arty from making fun of him every time he flinches at a flash of lightning. It’s actually them trying to distract him as they know he’s low-key ready for it hit him (and with his enhanced perception, they know he watches the entire path the lightning takes to be sure it doesn’t arch towards them.)
-Wally loves Shazam and all but because of the lightning thing... the two have a sort of agreement ( enforced by a protective Robin ) where Billy/Shazam avoids switching personas near Wally. Or at least warns him when it happens. This of course is after the first time Batson shows everyone how his powers work and Wally sprinted to another state leaving a lingering yelp behind.
-Wally carries a lot of static with him. He shocks people sort of a lot. He touches something metal? There’s a jolt. He tries to harness this “bonus power” as something he can do at will (like Barry can throw lightning if he runs fast enough type of thing ) and after some practice, Wally can do what Barry does. But he has terrible aim. And his intent was to not have to run to use it. At best, he just gives a really strong static shock. He definitely uses it to annoy everyone.
-Alternatively, Wally also shocks people when he’s nervous. Many of Artemis and Wally’s first kisses resulted in numb lips for our blonde archer.
-Wally also vibrates when nervous, angry or excited. Take that in as many directions as you’d like. ;)
-Wally is a little bit terrible at swimming. Like he won’t drown. But water isn’t the same as air and super fast water treading has mixed results and his accelerated heart-rate makes holding his breath difficult and also, it’s only fair to have this super world function as ours does where swimmers hate to run and runners hate to swim. Trust me on this. Even outliers have one they’re better at. I would know.
- Wally is sort of the couch-surfer of the hero world. Maybe a small part of it is rooted in him trying to dodge his parents, but he genuinely likes to visit his friends. And as a speedster, he really doesn’t do well with staying in one place. So as the Team and everyone gets older, Wally tends to pop into Roy’s apartment, Dick’s flat, Alfred always has cookies for him at the Mansion, M’Gann and Conner’s house (and so on) entirely un-announced. He brings random “souveniers” along the way and basically everyone has taken to keeping extra foods just in case.
- I honestly think Wally is bisexual but he just genuinely never realized it and doesn’t care much. Like, maybe I’m projecting, but I’m bisexual and I never realized it until my first kiss was a girl and I just rolled with it. Like I didn’t even bat an eye- I was just like, “oh, of course.”- I’d been saying how pretty girls are for years and always thought it was an artist’s eye for beauty in all forms or something but like... bruh, I am bi. But also, its not a huge deal. And I think Wally is the same? Like he doesn’t realize it but also- I think his first kiss was a boy. And he just blinked and rolled with it. I also think that he wasn’t all that good at committing to one person (speedsters got places to be and people to see or something) Like he is far from “getting around”- I think he had like three kisses before Artemis and that she was his first relationship. The first was a guy, the second was maybe some chick he kissed at a school dance, the second was a stranger that Dick dared him to kiss on some random summer day when they were in civvies hanging out together and the fourth was Artemis. I think he’s just so casually bi that no one else even suspects it except those who know his kissing history or whatever.
I could honestly go on forever! If you guys write or draw anything based on this please let me know! I just wanna see my ginger more, tbh.
#wally west#headcannons#long post#sorry its really long#kid flash#young justice#dc comics#dc#artemis#dick grayson#artemis crock#mgann#conner#shazam#wallace west#kf#yj#yj wally#roy harper#robin#nightwing#superboy#billy batson#flash#barry allen#batman#alfred#headconnon list#young justice headcannon
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09.02-09.08: Fics I Read This Week
this is coming two days late. i had it typed up on my computer and i just... forgot to post it? oops. anyway, last week i decided to systemically make my way through the cisco/barry relationship tag on ao3 (though i’m not done) so not only has that significantly lengthened this list but also it’s the first time i’ve read fics from The Flash fandom, even though i’ve religiously followed the tv series since it started in 2014.
Also i am super into Cisco/Barry/Caitlin fics but there are a whole two of them that i could find so if you have any please send them to me, i’m desperate and am going to have to write some of my own to fill the void.
anyway, fics recced below the cut by fandom then by pairing, as always, with fics from the flash fandom at the bottom because there are very very many fics.
Harry Potter Fics:
Draco/Harry:
A Good Boy by bafflinghaze
Due to unforeseen circumstances, Draco’s work goes a little overtime. When Draco returns home, he finds that Harry’s gotten started without him—but only a little, since Harry is such a good boy.
Word Count: 1k
Gilmore Girls Fics:
Paris/Rory:
The Best Of It by dollsome
Paris outs herself and Rory during a televised argument with Michele Bachmann. Peskiest of all is the fact that Paris and Rory aren't actually dating. A documentary crew wants to make Paris And Rory's Modern Stars Hollow Family anyway. Meanwhile, Rory goes slowly and quietly nuts. (And doesn't like Paris like that -- why would you even suggest such a thing?? Not that ... anyone did.)
Word Count: 73k
Notes: One of my all time favorite fics. It’s so good and so well-written and so fantastic and I’m screaming. You’ll laugh, you’ll cry--because you’re laughing so hard.
The Flash Fics:
Cisco/Barry/Caitlin:
((if someone has any more fics than the ones listed below, pls send them to me. i am desperate))
Equipoise by trufflemores
Barry gets sick.
Word Count: 3k
Notes: I love this fic and this ship.
Guardian Doctor by LightningLemonade
Caitlin Snow is more defensive of her boys than even she knew.
Word Count: 366
cw: homophobic language
Barry/Cisco:
escapes, true love, miracles by spocklee
princess bride AU. written (late) for flashvibe week.
Word Count: 22k
Notes: Top ten favs out of any fandom, easily. I mean, my favorite movie as an AU and it does it justice and non-binary!Barry and just yes.
Heartbreak Hotel by RonnieandtheProfessor
Cisco and Barry go undercover to investigate a meta-human that's been only attacking couples that stay in a certain hotel. Barry struggles with the 'pretending' aspect of their mission, as his feelings begin to grow a little too real.
Word Count: 4k
Notes: THIS IS SO GODDAMN GOOD, OKAY!
once i have you, i will never let you, never let you go by coopbastian
Barry and Cisco respond to a meta-alert but one of them gets kidnapped in the process.
Word Count: 3k
Thunderstorms by fezwearingjellybananas
In which Barry does not like thunderstorms, but Cisco is there to support him
Word Count: 300
finding you by craptaincold
“Oh, don’t play dumb, Barold,” Lisa said. “Barry,” Barry said. “Barold,” Lisa said, “A little birdy tells me that you’ve got a crush on him.” Barry was about to take a sip of his coffee, but was pretty glad he didn’t make it yet, because he would’ve choked on it. “Excuse me? I- I don’t, what makes you think that? Did you talk to Iris?” “I didn’t, but I’m sure going to now.” Lisa smirked. “I’m sure she’d have so many embarrassing stories to tell about you.” She paused and rested her chin on her hand. “Plus, she’s pretty cute. Is she single?” “She’s engaged. Don’t even think about it.” Lisa sighed, dropping her grin to a pout. “I have a proposition for you, Barry. Cisco is a sweet boy, and there aren’t too many of those in this world, you know? I’d love to have him for myself, but I hate stepping on any toes,” she said, as if she didn’t rob people for a living, “So, if you don’t step up and tell him how you feel by the end of the month, I’ll be forced to nab him up.” “We’re already dating,” Barry blurted out, mind now a dumpster fire. Oh god, why did he say that? You’d think having superspeed would make him be able to stop himself from saying impulsive things. Word Count: 2k
The Person That You Were (You Cannot Find) by Ecliptic_Fiction
When it's four in the morning When it comes without warning And the Silence drags you down under the tide.
Word Count: 2k
Notes: God, I love this. They’ve got such a beautiful relationship.
cw: self-esteem issues
To Lean On by Ecliptic_Fiction
Tears prick at Barry's eyes at the sight of the man before him, and he can't help but smile at the thought of spending forever with him. "I do," he whispers, squeezing Cisco's hand gently. Word Count: 5k
Where Do You Go (When You Think Of Me?) by Ecliptic_Fiction
Thank God for Francisco Ramon- the saviour of the Flash. Word Count: 3k
...so could we by coopbastian
Cisco is having a hard time on the fact that Leo implied that he and Barry are a couple. Word Count: 1k
What really matters by Saluzozette
It was late at night when Cisco's voice broke the silence in the room. Barry was on the verge of sleep, curled around his boyfriend, his nose buried deep into his hair. Cisco's back was warm against his chest, their fingers glued together and really, the speedster had rarely felt as tired, comfy and happy as he was right now. His mind was already drifting away, but he acknowledged the other man's plea nonetheless. “Barry?” Cisco's voice was alert and very much awake. Far from the comfortable stillness that had filled the bedroom for the last hour. Why wasn't he asleep already? “Hum...” The speedster mumbled, trying to sound a little bit less out of it than he actually was. “I'm gonna do it.” Word Count: 4k cw: graphic descriptions of violence, homophobia, mentions of neglect and abuse
sweet creature, sweet creature by buckybunnyteeth
Cisco wakes up to the quick warm feeling of lips pressing against his own. or Cisco needs Barry to know that he loves him ... without saying that he loves him. Word Count: 3k
It's Not About Winning by st4rlabsforever (omaken)
Cisco wriggles his wrists in his restraints. In the grand scheme of things – or at least as far as kidnappings go – this one isn’t so bad. Sure, the ropes might be chafing his wrists and the blindfold might be messing with his balance, but his discomfort is at a solid three out of ten right now. Just a day in the life of Central City's premier superhero couple. Word Count: 5k
Vows and Promises by daydreamingstoryteller
Barry has made the decision to sacrifice himself to stop the Dominators' attack. But Cisco has some scores to settle with him before he can leave. Or. Another Invasion AU but with Secretly married Flashvibe Word Count: 1k
'Fake' Dates & Not-So-Shitty Acting by twelvexclara
When Caitlin and Julian need someone to go undercover for an event, they ask Barry and Cisco. The thing is, the situation is more complicated than you think. Word Count: 2k
Stars in Hiding by Neuqe
"It is getting rather confusing for all parties involved, and Cisco would prefer if his life did not resemble this much a 90’s situational comedy" Barry and Cisco decide to keep their relationship as a secret. It is not necessarily the best idea. Word Count: 5k
We will find each other by Neuqe
Cisco accidently vibes Earth-2 and learns something new about Reverb. Word Count: 1k
swimming in the sunlight by VolunteerFieryDantooinian
Cisco can feel it, he can fucking feel what almost happened, he almost lost him- But Barry came back. It took a month, but he came back. It scared the hell out of him. Then again, he had a habit of doing that. Title from BøRNS's American Money, which is a total Barrisco song tbh Word Count: 1k
You Love the Limelight Too by PoliticalBloodTea
People won't stop flirting with Cisco. Barry is not jealous. He's not. Word Count: 3k
Decelerate by trufflemores
3.12. Barry and Cisco cuddle after Barry phases the train. Word Count: 1k
That Would Be Enough by UpsideAround
Soulmarks weren't supposed to change. Soulmarks didn't change. Fate must have hated him, because Barry's soulmark had been erased once when he was eleven, and brutally slashed out when he was in his twenties. Word Count: 2k Notes: I love this so much, tbh
Duration by st4rlabsforever (omaken)
“Hey! So,” Cisco says, pulling out the dark blue package from his shopping bag, “I was thinking we could try this tonight.” He tosses it to Barry and tries his best not to blush. The slogan ‘Last Longer. Stay In The Moment’ stares back at him in big, white letters. Or: in which Cisco buys Barry an endurance enhancer, and Barry is not amused at all. Word Count: 1k
Trademarked Kisses by aldergroves
(The first) five times that Barry and Cisco kiss. Word Count: 1k Notes: NON-BINARY CISCO!!!!!!!!!
Mach 1 by RedelliaValentinos
"Can I ask you something? It's just out of curiosity," the boy spun the chair around. Harry gave a hum of approval to go ahead and scooped up his coffee mug. Nothing this kid could possibly say was going to interrupt his consumption of caffeine. "What would happen if Barry went Mach 1 during sex?" Word Count: 838 Notes: Harry isn’t the only one who choked on their coffee because of this.
Another One Gone by superallens
6. “You can’t die. Please don’t die.” Word Count: 873 cw: major character death Notes: only read it if you want to cry
Locked in the closet by graveltotempo
Hartley and Snart get locked in closet and accidentally get a first row view of Barry and Cisco going at it Word Count: 2k
Insomnia by VenezuelanWriter
Barry can’t keep losing so many hours of needed sleep because he’s too busy feeling like this: hollow inside, weak and anxious. Word Count: 2k
All That Glitters by dancesontrains
The glitter had settled all over his cowl, so he was still breathing it in, and he began to remove it. Might as well remove the already unzipped jacket too...and the trousers, what if they had the particles on them? Clearly whatever was in them wasn't good for him, he could tell that much. Why else would he blurt out something like that to his friend? Word Count: 2k cw: rape/non-con elements
Work by coopbastian
prompt: “I’m singing along to this song and you can’t stop me, so either deal with it or join me.” Word Count: 623
The Hysteria Games by st4rlabsforever (omaken)
Barry and Cisco discover Pokemon GO. Naturally, everyone loses their minds. Word Count: 2k
Gold and Metallic Red by Mikkal
No one can know he likes painting his nails. And, so far, it’s working. No slip ups. Of course, up until recently, he didn’t have a superhero for a best friend. A superhero best friend who can vibrate through walls and forgets sometimes that it’s rude to not knock, damn it, Barry! Word Count: 815 Notes: You can read it as gen if you want, tbh.
So No Memory Remover Machine? by Magicaltally
Team Arrow ships Barrisco, and even if they're not in Central City that won't stop them from playing match makers. Word Count: 1k
Forbidden by unsernameinuse
Dr. Wells has rules about romance in the workplace. No one agrees with him, but especially not Barry and Cisco. Word Count: 808
Ransom by pennflinn
Inspired by the tumblr post, "Imagine Cisco getting nabbed by a villain and they want him to call the flash and he has to explain why he’s saved in his phone as 'Bae.'" Cisco is kidnapped and held as ransom for the Flash, who he has yet to confess his feelings for. Things get awkward fast. Word Count: 1k
It was just a dream by demflashvibefeels
Barry dreams about something terrible Zoom could've done. Good thing Cisco was around Word Count: 194
Side Effects by trufflemores
There are complications when Barry and Cisco share a bed. Word Count: 965
Whenever you need me, I'll be there by PunkyRaticate
Cisco and Barry have been dating for a few months now and when they finally get a day to themselves they're pretty stoked. What happens when Mrs. Ramon decides to call and invite her son over to his folk's house in the middle of their Mythbusters binge-watching session. He agrees to it and now he wishes he hadn't. Word Count: 2k
Ride or Die or Fake Dating by Ihateallergies
Barry needs a favor from Cisco. Word Count: 3k Notes: ICONIC
Barry and Cisco's Love Story by VenezuelanWriter
Cisco recovers from his past relationship with Barry's help and they finally get to a place where they can be together. (I recommend you reading the first two stories for the series before reading this one so you enjoy it even more) Word Count: 7k cw: past relationship abuse
Protection by Neuqe
Barry and Cisco get kidnapped before their date night. Cisco is pissed off for multiple reasons. Word Count: 2k
Vibe-y Patronus by LadyOrpheus
prompt: hey how about flashvibe with barry helping cisco get more comfortable with his powers? Or Barry helps give Cisco the proper motivation. Word Count: 1k
Whoever The Flash’s Stupid Little Heart Desires by TwirlsWrites
At this point, they're just glad that they know there's a way to wake him up. Unfortunately, finding out who exactly Barry's heart considers to be his one true love is a lot more difficult than one would have thought. Word Count: 2k Notes: I fucking LOVE this fic
Cisco Keeps Getting Flowers From A Secret Admirer - You Won't BELIEVE What Happens Next! by TwirlsWrites
“Cisco, look,” Caitlin said, pointing at the Cortex computer. Cisco stepped closer; there was a single yellow flower with a ribbon tied around the stem. “Huh,” Cisco muttered, picking it up, “It has my name on it.” the soft red ribbon had ‘Cisco’ scrawled on it. “Well don’t grab it, what if it’s a trap?” Caitlin said, rushing over.
Word Count: 2k
Notes: The title is a little eh, but the work is AMAZING!!!!!! TwirlsWrites is an iconic writer.
You and I Were Meant to Be (Ain't No Doubt About It) by spoopy_dragons
Francisco Ramon was born with the name "Flash" scrawled across his wrist. The story of Cisco Ramon falling for someone besides his soulmate, but maybe, just maybe, it'll all work out in the end. Word Count: 4k
"Are we soulmates?" by supercala_docious
Cisco started to get memory-flashes of him and Barry as a couple. Word Count: 927 Notes: I love, love, love this
we can work from home, oh, oh, oh-oh by buckybunnyteeth
“You’re not gonna electrocute me are you, dude?” A different, much more pleasant shock goes through Barry’s body when a warm weight settles on his lap. Barry’s head snaps back up and he feels his jaw drop at the sight that greets him. Cisco has plopped down into Barry’s lap, miles of beautiful brown skin on display as he is wearing only a pair of very short yellow shorts and a smile. A smile that is curved around a grape Sucker. Word Count: 1k
Sledgehammer by Neuqe
Barry gets hurt and the heart monitor is betraying him or the one where Caitlin is the smartest of them all. Word Count: 3k Notes: I love this and Caitlin and Barry being brotp is canon.
Laundry Day by RedBowBuddha
After Cisco and Barry move in together, Cisco is worried that it was a bad choice for their developing relationship. Barry sets out to prove that it was a perfect choice. Word Count: 4k
((find my other weekly fic recs here.))
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NAME: Lena GENDER: female EYE COLOR: blue-grey HAIR COLOR: blonde. Like a strawberry blonde maybe? idk there’s some red in there somewhere. RELATIONSHIP STATUS: very single. ZODIAC: cancer FAVORITE COLOR: blues and reds? Idk I feel like this changes for me depending FAVORITE SEASON: summer FAVORITE PLACE: uhh like a country kind of place or like my room? or like...idk. because the place I want to visit is New Zealand, but like...I’ve never been so can that count? No idea. FAVORITE HOLIDAY: Christmas FAVORITE VIDEO GAME: Kingdom Hearts games and like the lego video games. Not gonna lie, the lego lord of the rings game made me laugh so hard. LAST SHOW YOU WATCHED: the flash as I worked to catch up again WHAT’S YOUR HONEST OPINION ABOUT YOUR MUSE?: Barry Allen is a good guy who makes a ton of mistakes because he is in fact human. A good thing to remember honestly. He has been through a ton of crap, enough that convinces me beyond the shadow of a doubt he’s got some form of PTSD, and his actions certainly reflect that. I think the CW has found many ways to make me angry in regards to him, because I guess as the hero of the show that means you get dumped on by everyone else, even when it’s super hypocritical (looking at you Legends). Ugh Barry makes some stupid decisions but he always tries really hard to fix it, and is willing to sacrifice a great deal to do that. Something that I would never be willing to do because I am not a brave soul like Barry. WOULD YOU DATE YOUR MUSE?: the smart thing to say would be no, considering hero track records with their dates. But look...he’s a precious bean and I would love to have awkward and cute dates with Barry Allen. So yes, yes I would, even though it would more than likely get me dragged onto a roof by a speedster or something. WHAT ARE YOUR FAVORITE KINDS OF THREADS?: angst and fluff. A mix of both. I like to balance things out. ARE YOU A SELECTIVE ROLEPLAYER?: I can be, and I think I’ve gotten a little more selective recently because I’ve been stressed out. And when you’re stressed, do you really want to add more stress to yourself? Or do you want to be able to write with those people that you love and you know will enthuse with you about the threads you’re doing? I tend to be pretty awkward anyway about starting things with new people. I’m historically bad at it I think. So I think I am a bit selective, but I’m starting to feel a little less guilty about that, which I think is probably good. DO YOU HAVE A FAVOURITE MUSE?: well, I keep trying to do other indie blogs but they never quite work, so I must say Barry has to be my fave for the indie world cause he’s my single survivor. lol. I also have a Steve Rogers muse who I love very much but I tend to write privately because I’ve never done a great job throwing him into the marvel fandom. Idk why. So many quality Steves or something. With Barry it was just like, ‘well I know I’m not quality, if you want quality go elsewhere’ lol. WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO JOIN THE FANDOM?: So I was watching the Flash for the first time. This was before Season 3 came out. Anyway I was watching and I started to be annoyed about how the show was handling certain moments with Barry. And then really what pushed me into creating Barry and starting that off was seeing how Barry, having just lost his father was left on his own to handle his grief. Which, if you know Barry, is not a great idea. So of course he goes back in time to save his mom, and I started screaming in frustration. I mean honestly. Joe? Iris? I expected better. But, it was this frustration that led me to create Barry so I guess we can say thanks to that as well. Pfft. DO YOU SEE YOURSELF STAYING WITH THE FANDOM FOR A LONG TIME?: I don’t know, maybe. I figure I’ll just see how far this journey takes me. This has been the nicest fandom I’ve been involved with tbh, and I’ve met some amazing people in the rpc this way. So on that basis alone I’d want to stick it out.
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OK MY FRIENDS LEMME SIT U DOWN AND TELL U WHY THE FUCK THIS WEEK’S EPISODE (4x07) WAS TRÈS 👏 IMPORTANT 👏 long, potentially spoiler-y post ahead!
it’s not the first time barry has been in a situation like that, where he’s trying to tell people who the real enemy is, but nobody believes him. hella call back to his experiences trying to prove that the man in yellow was real, right??
as a speedster, barry has an incredible mind ( maybe he can’t match devoe, but he’s definitely way up that list ). his neurotransmitters function at THOUSANDS of miles per hour, and he’s extremely observant. so there was no way that some of the stuff devoe was saying would go over his head ( he just so happens to speak a ton of languages, knows the approx number of devoe’s in the city --- also that samurai picture? fucking sketchy af )
so obviously, being barry allen, he starts to investigate. and the stuff that he’s coming up with his pretty damning --- but nobody else can see it. how frustrating would that be? barry has spent his life trying to get somebody, anybody, to believe him about the man in yellow; and that need still spans into his adult life, so naturally, he falls into a near OBSESSION with devoe, like he did with thawne.
this involves doing some pretty risky, stupid things to get to the truth à la breaking and entering. this also includes, and is not limited to: posing as a full csi, lying to his boss, and travelling all the way to star city to investigate a strange case? sounds kinda familiar.
the man gets a fucking restraining order and a suspension, but he still rocks up to devoe and demands answers. he doesn’t care what he has to sacrifice ( as long as it’s not another life ) to see justice done.
barry’s also got major trust issues when it comes to people like devoe, after everything he’s been through with thawne and zoom; people who claimed to be something they weren’t --- who wanted to hurt barry for their own selfish gain. so you can’t blame him for being even a little bit wary of the unassuming, perfect, mac and cheese loving professor in a wheelchair. ( maybe eowells liked mac and cheese too. who doesn’t tbh )
and really, it’s eowells that shaped that characteristic in barry, he always believed that his father was innocent, when nobody else did. and he got a lot of shit from everybody because of it, so he kept quiet. but he never stopped fighting. it affected his entire LIFE. then finding out that the man who gave you the chance to become a HERO, was also the man who killed your mother? barry always tries to see the best in people, but it’s difficult when you know the truth, and the people around you that you love and trust with your life, tell you to just LET IT GO.
and at times, even barry starts to doubt himself when other people try to rationalise his behaviour. deep down, he knows he’s right, and that’s all he needs to keep going. when barry throws himself into investigating, he feels a sense of CONTROL over the situation, and it helps to channel his emotions into a case file or an evidence board.
barry is the kind of guy that wears his heart on his sleeve. and he’s always been a positive guy, for his and other people’s sake. but sometimes, he has a bad habit of trying to convince people that he’s fine when he comes to situations like this, when he really isn’t. ( eobard: i made barry allen Better. everyone else: you fucked up a perfectly good angel is what you did. look at him. he's got anxiety )
but a villain like devoe is honestly more troubling to barry than a speedster --- he’s never had to fight something INTANGIBLE like thought. you can’t punch an idea. and knowing that somebody like the thinker is always way ahead of him ignites his paranoia. it’s easy for people like thawne to get under barry’s skin --- but devoe doesn’t even have to move to do that to barry, and that TERRIFIES him.
yet even though barry has really been through a lot, he’s always been unbelievably FORGIVING. when they find out that wells was the reverse flash, and that clifford devoe really is the man that they’re after, barry doesn’t see the need for apologies. because he’s never been the only victim of their villains. sure, he’s angry and upset, but never at those closest to him. it just makes it so that in the end, knowing that he was right would always be bittersweet.
tl;dr this episode is one major parallel to barry trying to prove that thawne killed his mom, and it makes him Sad when he’s the only person that believes what he says to be true. it happens a lot. let him live you cowards!! !
#OK LISTEN IT'S LIKE 1 AM BUT I JUST HAD A BIG NEED TO WRITE THIS#so excuse me if none of it makes sense bfndjk#the flash spoilers#⋆ ❛ ABT. / / you will remember me for centuries.#⋆ ❛ VERSE : SEASON FOUR. / / it feels like i've been reborn.#⋆ ❛ SAVED. / / for a rainy day.#⋆ ❛ OOC. / / i’m always tired so jot that down.
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So happy The Flash is back! I really liked most of the season premiere. Loved Iris being front and center at Star Labs and that part where she figured out the pattern of jumps for Peek-a-Boo was really clever. I also really understood where she was coming from on the not wanting Cisco to try and bring Barry back. Hope can be a double edged sword and while I don’t have any missing speedsters in my life, I’ve felt that particular feeling a lot, so I could relate. And her scenes with Barry when he first came back were really stellar, terrific acting by Candice in those scenes.
I really get the feeling that Barry's scrambled ravings do actually have some meaning, so now I’m trying to recall every little thing to store it away for future use. The compulsive rhyming was cute and hilarious though lmao.
There were a lot of great westallen moments and I really loved her activating his powers and that her being in danger was what got him back at the end. It was an interesting subversion (or maybe a lampshade?) of the damsel in distress trope, since Iris purposely made herself one knowing it would bring Barry out of his fugue.
The scene where Joe was shaving Barry’s face kind of teared me up, idk why, but it was a really sweet moment.
Speaking of Joe, it was really nice to see more of him and Cecile, and I liked how they fit her into the story of finding Barry.
Cisco and Wally are always a joy. Personally, I do like the sound of “Team Kid Flash”. Let Wally live, dammit!
Ok so onto what I didn’t love. I admit I’m biased and anyone who follows me knows I don’t really like Caitlin. Between the way some of her fans treat Iris to me finding her boring to Danielle Panabaker’s at times underwhelming acting (although she’s better as Killer Frost), it’s all conspired to make me not a fan of that character. But even so, as much as I dislike her, it does make sense to me that both Iris and Joe would eventually forgive her for the Killer Frost stuff and co-conspiring to murder Iris, since they had a personal relationship with her with pleasant memories of teamwork and friendship. But eventually. After she slowly gained back their trust. Not immediately after she shows up again without even a conversation. Sure she apologized to Joe, but it was for everything except trying to kill his flesh and blood. Him just accepting that non-apology and hugging it out with her just felt really unearned. Same with Iris, she seemed slightly annoyed that Caitlin hadn’t been around for six months, but pretty ok with the fact that 6 months ago Caitlin was conspiring to murder her, resulting in H.R.’s death. Like I said, it makes sense to me that Joe and even Iris would eventually forgive, but it’s just really disingenuous for the forgiveness to be so immediate and easy. And a story miss, tbh. That would have been an interesting story for Caitlin to have to win back the trust of Iris and Joe (and Barry). More interesting, and certainly more realistic than just conspicuously avoiding the issue altogether.
We got a look at The Thinker at the end of the episode, but surely I can’t be the only person who immediately started chanting, “We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.”? Also what do we have to do to get Patrick Stewart to guest star on this show?
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(I had asked about Iris-lightning-bolt and the show having that little spark between her and coma Barr's hands) I'm sorry if again I'm super behind on theories, but is there any way for the speedforce to actually be embodied as a person? It seems to love Iris so much and she has been able to reach Barry through it when no one else can, is there any way she could BE the speedforce? Sorry if a stupid question lol
The speedforce can take the shape of any person, like it has Nora/Iris/Joe etc. I don’t think they’ve ever discussed the speedforce actually being a person or living inside a person that isn’t a speedster, but it’s not impossible. The canonical reason for why the speedforce is so drawn to Iris, though, is because Barry created it. He was the first speedster, and the speedforce’s energy comes from him. He loves Iris, so it loves Iris, etc.
But it’s not a dumb question, don’t worry!
I’m a little confused at that scene between savitar, Barry and Iris, I have so many questions, was savitar really willing to get help? Did he change his mind because he was jealous that he would never get Iris? Or was it all just an act?
It’s up to interpretation. I think he had the intention of tricking them and he followed through with that intention, but there were times (with Iris) that he wavered.
I feel like there should have been more dialogue between Iris and Barry right before he left, maybe more him hesitating about leaving? You think that because he left so willingly that Iris might develop resentment towards him if /when he comes back?
I get your instinct, but I don’t think Iris would ever resent Barry for being a hero and doing the right thing. I think that moment was more full circle for Flashpoint, this time with Barry selflessly leaving in order to set things right. Iris might be more wary about him doing heroic things when he returns, but only because she wants to keep him safe, not because she resents him.
giphy(.)com/gifs/l4FGnOtnfRs7GiVuE Iris to the haters that call her useless: I beat Savitar and I have no powers. What have YOU done?
Iris West-Allen can melt villains and end their lives when she pleases. Haters need to sit down.
Haha, well as much of a cesspool as the Flash Reddit page can be, it’s also a pretty good source for these spoilery things!
Thank goodness they have some use, lol.
Tati, you’re killing me today. Monty Python in the AM and Jill Scott on the PM. Yaaasssss Girl. Iris gonna have to call out for a couple of days.
I aim to please, haha!
Like we really supposed to believe Garry is staying in the SF where there’s no Iris for more than an episode? 🙄😁🤣
LOL, there’s no way I believe the show will have the “new status quo” last longer than Flashpoint did. No matter how angry Barry made people this season, he is the show.
Cisco, you finally got your woman. Don’t screw this up, you hear me? LOL!
I hope Cynthia sticks around for good, man. We deserve her, and Cisco needs love.
Did I miss/forget a scene? In the first Star Labs scene (with Julian + the cure), it looks like their glass drawing board is shattered and Joe seems to be holding a shard of glass. Did it get smashed?
I don’t think you missed it, but it’s possible a scene was cut and the editing just did a poor job with the finale.
I hope I’m not interpreting it wrong but was savibarry jealous of our Barry coz he don’t have an iris?
That was definitely my interpretation, as well. “Not together,” and “You’re gonna spend the rest of your life with him?”
There has been an ongoing joke that Savitar wanted a threesome on the DL. When he realized that he wasn’t going to get that OR Iris, he went back to his original plan. LOL! But I love that scene where Iris went over to Savitar to touch his face. So beautifully done. And yes, Savitar still needed to jump into a volcano to finish the rest of his “thin crust pizza” face (Thanks for the LOLs, Cisco!)
YUP! Savitar’s weird jealousy was kind of hilarious. Like, you just tried to kill her, dude. Relax!
Sooo what was savitar’s plans for jesse? Lol
To send her running to E3 so she could be available for pilot season lmao.
In the 3x22 Cisco/HR scene, he says “until next time”, but in the 3x23 flashback he says “until the next one”. C'mon writers lol.
That’s the editors’ job. And they did a very poor one this week.
WAIT A MINUTE. We never got the scene with Joe and Barry in the West house.
I’m glad they cut it, tbh. Unnecessary time focused on how Savitar is actually just in pain when it turned out that he still sucked and Iris was gonna have to kill him.
I just realized a major plothole. I don’t think we found out what happened to the stone.
The plot was full of holes, hoo boy! I’m just glad we made it out alive. Well, all of us except poor HR.
Hi girl, Im very happy you get to be part of the interviewers at SDCC congrats and I know the producers are gonna be there so please make sure you ask mainly about iris journalism and how the fans are here for her and please document everything we want to get all the scoop we want videos pretty please and lots of pics and again congrats Tati and thanks for everything we are counting on you.
Thanks, babe! I’ll do my best.
#the flash#savitar#accidentalacoustics#anonymous#tatiana's thoughts#spoilers#long post for ts#more asks under the cut
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Hi! How do you feel about the finale?? Did you like it?? I thought it was great in some parts, but okay over all. Though I wish we could get back to the days of Cisco, Barry, and Caitlin. One of my complaints is that Team Flash is way too big. I want the original team flash back. Also sadly, Iris and Barry are becoming too much like Olicity and taking over the show. I like romance, but I want to see other things than Iris complaining or Barry changing the future/past to save Iris.
Can’t say I liked it very much as a conclusion to this season. I was wondering how they’d resolve so many plotlines and answer so many unanswered questions… their solution was to just drop it all, lol. Savitar’s origin, scars, connection to the speed force, shenanigans with the stone and Alchemy, restoring powers from Flashpoint (aka all of S3A), those damn 6 husks, time traveling in the past to create his own myth Jay told us in 309, his plans for Jesse Quick… what was that all about? He needed Wally to have powers to escape the prison, ok. He needed KF to defeat Black Flash, ok (and why didn’t Black Flash show up much earlier? or time wraiths?). But if Wally lost his powers when Savitar lost his memories, why didn’t he lose them when he was, ya know, erased from existence? In S1 (and the S2 premiere), a singularity was about to swallow the entire universe because Wellobard was erased, thus erasing everything that happened post 2000 and Nora’s murder. The team stopped it and they were living in a paradox, ok. Where was that now?
The writers introduced the quite complicated time loop concept, set some rules in episode 21, and contradicted them in 23. I’m all for sci-fi, fantasy etc but consistency is still needed within your own universe. An evil Barry Allen storyline in the Flash TV show should have been one of the biggest stories ever, not ~15 minutes of screentime total with a lame conclusion.
That said, I liked a few things in the finale. Despite the holes in Cait’s story throughout the season, the conclusion to her inner fight was cool. Savitar wanted Caitlin gone, team Flash wanted Frost gone. Cait seems ready to embrace both parts of her -with some work- and wants to do it on her own, go girl. That’s maybe the one storyline I am really excited to see in S4. Cisco and Cait saving each other is my aesthetic too. The woods fight with all the speedsters was epic. HR and Iris playing each other was awesome. HR btw, I am still mourning but bby brought joy and fun in this dark season so bless him. I hated how the team reacted to HR tho and how they pushed Tracy to help his murderer, while we all know very well how Barry would have acted if Savitar had killed Iris (hell, we even saw it in ep 19 and that was not the same reaction). Sending Harry to convince her for the sole reason he has HR’s face was fucked up.
So yeah, finale proved once more Team Flash is highly dysfunctional and Barry’s characterization is the biggest issue. I want my superhero Barry back. Hopefully some months in speed force peace will return him changed.
As for what you said, I think the team can be big if everyone gets to use their skills. We don’t need ten people standing around in the Cortex all the time. Bring back CCPD and CSI Barry, let Iris do her job (her blog used to fit in the story just fine), I think Wally missed his entire freshman year of college???, etc… I personally don’t want the fandom to start with the OTA stuff that happened elsewhere. “Original Team Flash” included Supervillain Eobard Thawne and Joe from the start, Eddie joined after 15 episodes or so, Firestorm was an honorary member etc the team was always changing and growing… Agent of Shields works great with an even bigger team and they use them all (and still have time to have them all reunited from time to time). Team Flash is huge, basically every regular and recurring cast member is part of the team. That’s a challenge for sure but not an impossible task.
About romance, I am game for anything that doesn’t take over the entire story - I prefer my pairings non canon anyway on that network, it’s safer and more fun. Barry and Iris in S3A? Cool. Same for Oliver and Felicity before last year’s crossover. The moment writers decide drama > romance though, I am bored/annoyed. There are many ways to keep viewers interested in a relationship after the couple gets together, sadly the CW only seems to know two: forced drama or premature death. With Barry telling Iris to “keep loving”, I’m half expecting her to date the Thinker/Devoe in S4 tbh.
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Well, here’s my comments! Feel free to message me with any questions or for clarification of anything
Overall, this is really solid you guys.
The biggest issue is just fleshing some of the episodes out a bit. Character arcs are nicely done and the character stuff is spread out surprisingly well. In general, I think there’s a little more focus on Mick and Len than the others, and Amaya could probably be given a slightly larger role, but overall I’m impressed. Writing a team and giving them all equal focus is really hard. I’m so excited this is already so good
(Also like three of these episodes are set in times/places related to special interests I’ve had over the years so if I start getting caught up in historical details that’s why)
I haven’t looked at other people’s feedback yet, cause I didn’t want to be influenced so sorry if I’m just repeating stuff
LOTREWRITE: Yay, more comments! Sorry about the delay in posting these, all!
Episode 1:
- I love the opening sequence with Kendra A+
- How has Nate’s pencil lasted so long? It has to be at least 20 years old, right? A pen might be more plausible but have the same basic narrative effect. If you’re keeping the dog tags bit from the original though it might be best to cut it the reference to it being from his grandfather entirely or have it be a replica or something. Best to focus on a single sentimental object.
- The banter is flawless and in character. Nice!
- Thawne’s explanation is a bit of an infodump. That’s gonna need to be reworked into more of a dialogue, at the very least. It would probably be better to show it somehow. Maybe show the Black Flash appearing a few seconds after Thawne leaves, then disappearing just as quickly? Darhk can research it on his own and then explain it to someone later, for those viewers who aren’t familiar with the concept from The Flash.
- “Damien Darhk?” Stein asks. “As in –” “The man who murdered your sister,” Rip says. I assume we’re talking about Laurel, but this makes it sound like Darhk murdered Stein’s sister.
- “I never did” Talk about OUCH. This is amazing.
Episode 2
- Some clarification on when and where “the infirmary” is would be good, as well as what Jax and Stein’s history here is, but I figure that will be added as this is fleshed out
- Same with “decision makers”
- I vote yes on “not drinking and driving” quip that’s excellent
- Bambi is adorable
- Make sure when you’re researching the crusades to look at things from multiple perspectives. This seems like it could very easily fall into a very generic “Good Christians” vs “Evil non-Christians” crusade narrative and that’s… less than ideal. There was a lot of politics surrounding the crusades, even if you’re just focusing on the Christians. That might also help provide a motive for your dissenter? Someone who thinks these soldiers should be back at home looking after things there instead of invading a foreign nation to secure power and riches for the church? Someone who’s been convinced that the crusaders have no divine right to this land and that they should leave it to the people who actually live there? Could maybe be a place to start setting up some doing what’s “right” vs doing what’s supposed to happen conflict? This is obviously just an outline so maybe you’re already planning something like that but I figured I’d mention it
- I’m a fan of Bambi not dying
- I love Firestorm as an angel that’s an amazing idea in so many ways A++++
- Mick roasting a T-Rex with his gun heck yeah
Episode 3:
- I love Sara’s canary pendant
- Continuity issue: in episode 1, Mick punches Rex and that’s about the extent of their interaction. Not much of a basis for the trust he seems to be showing in this ep.
LOTREWRITE: Possibly we could make it more explicit that Rex noticed that the bomb the JSA were tracking was discharged harmlessly after Mick said he went after it, thus the trust?
- Yay for bi Sara!
- The Sara and Amaya scene sounds like it’s gonna be so cute
- Ray’s speech to Nate about heroism is really solid
- I see now why it’s a pencil, but I’m still not loving the idea. Does it just magically never get not sharpened? Has Nate never noticed? Does he sharpen it and lose tiny fragments of the spear every time? Am I being too nitpicky?
- Love the mention of non-fighting military personnel
- Mick is starting to feel like he’s taking over the story a little too much here maybe, especially considering that he’s been the most major character in the previous episodes as well, while Jax and Stein seem almost nonexistent. Nate could probably have a little more prominence given that this is his big reveal episode.
Episode 4
- Might want to give a quick rundown of some basics about Chernobyl in the finished episode for audiences unfamiliar with the history. I had to look it up because I thought it happened years later and was very confused.
- Give some reason for why Stein’s actions were changed from the original timeline. Is Darhk’s presence there already changing things?
- What do you mean by Jax can “safely detonate” the bomb? Is there some reason he and Stein can’t Firestorm up and transfigure it? I don’t recall Jax being a particular expert in bombs previous to this.
- The Stein and Clarissa storyline is very very good
- Sara and Mick (not) talking about their shared grief Thank You
- Sara seems rather quick to trust Eobard. She knows it’s a speedster who killed Rex, right? Nevermind. She still seems very quick to trust for a former assassin.
- Maybe avoid Eobard villain monologuing? He has no reason to.
- Doesn’t the Black Flash only come after the speedsters, not anyone whose death is changed by time travel? iirc, both Cisco and Barry’s mother were brought back to life by Barry changing the timeline at one time or another and neither were targeted. There may be extenuating circumstances I’m forgetting though…
- Sara and Laurel’s storyline is really touching and sweet
- LISA!!!!!!
Episode 5
- I’m loving the mix of historically accurate costumes and especially Mick
- Crew interacting with Vikings is great and in character
- Jax and Gunlød’s relationship is really cute
- The funeral for Len and the others they’ve lost is fantastic
Episode 6
- Eobard and Darhk banter already sounds like it’s gonna be great
- How’s Lisa getting in? nevermind, that’s answered
- The image of Len doing anything “emphatically” is kinda cracking me up. A look or something would probably be more in character.
- Vampiric octopuses omg please have a flashback here
- Building of tension for the break-in is excellently done. A bit cliché, but in a good way.
- Lisa’s fury is great.
Episode 7:
- Oa?
- Independence Day banter is really fun
- Lisa/Cisco scene is YES
- “justified” I see what you did there
Episode 8:
- Remember to introduce Constantine etc to audiences who might not be familiar with them
- Are you going to show Mick vanishing or just have him suddenly no longer be there? Related: does he leave and then get beaten up or get taken out while with the rest of them? Does the audience know he’s telling the truth or will there be some room for them to wonder?
- HARLEY/IVY YESSSSS
- I’m assuming Booster is Booster Gold, yes? Do we get him in this season?! Okay coming back, we don’t. It’s a nice shoutout for those who know, but the prominence it’s given implies it will be relevant.
- Clarify who Resurrection Crusade are
Episode 9:
- Sara’s disguise for the Christmas party isn’t specified
- This might be an issue with the original version of the episode as well, but the colonies were in open rebellion against the British crown and GW probably wouldn’t expect honorable treatment or a prisoner exchange if captured. He was openly committing treason in the eyes of the British army.
- Ray navigating with one boot is hilarious and wonderful
- Would soldiers from the pre-telephone era be able to adjust well enough in one night to work with a comm? Guns they at least have experience with. Tiny devices that let them talk to each other through long distances might be a bit pushing it. Or I might be getting too nitpicky.
- The whole massacre plot needs some work tbh. How does Jax and Amaya knocking out a total of three soldiers stop a full massacre? How many were there? How did the soldiers feel about it? Sneak attacks on innocent (white) civilians weren’t really a common part of warfare at the time. Some or all of the villagers would have supported the British or at least pretended to. Not to mention the British soldiers were probably occupying the nearest village. Village sounds really feudal I’m thinking town might be more appropriate okay I’m definitely getting too nitpicky
- End scene is great
Episode 10:
- Ray’s pirate persona is gold
- Why do they ask Jax for his name first? (or do they?)
- Foreshadowing Rip joining the other side? Neat
- Looks like this just needs more details for the climactic battle then you’ll be good
Episode 11:
- The opening is so good
- Adorable engineering duo yes good
- So does the Greenpeace member know about the explosion? How?
- This episode feels a bit short? It’s focused on a single plot that gets resolved relatively straightforwardly. Maybe add subplot(s) and/or throw a wrench in things somewhere?
Episode 12:
- A little hard to follow at first but I think it’s supposed to be
- Does Mick say “who’s Grace?”? That seems to imply that he recognizes the other names.
- This has the potential to be really creepy I like it
- Can Rip be incorporated into this somehow? Or not necessarily be incorporated as the character, but at least mentioned? It feels relevant, since he had the closest relationship to Gideon
Episode 13:
- Could Legion!Len’s reveal be moved? If he’s not heavily involved in the Legion’s main plot for this ep, the previous ep would probably work better with a single big reveal (that oculus!Len is not just a hallucination) rather than two back to back. There could be mentions of a new Legion member (Darhk and Eo discussing Legends in Argentina “We’ll let the new guy handle them,” following orders from him, etc), without Len being revealed until he’s revealed to the Legends, or the end of this episode.
- Really good moral quandaries here.
- You could probably do something with the fact that the team (presumably intentionally) imitates oppressive government agents to get away with kidnapping, even if it is for a good cause. That’s gotta make them uncomfortable. (Mick seems like he’d probably be the most chill with it, Jax seems like he’d be really uncomfortable, and I could see Stein going either way.)
- Maybe include one or more OCs or historical figures in a major role to add a human element to the conflict
Episode 14:
- How does Rip find out? Does he already know?
- So is the thing on the throne not the spear piece?
- Tudor jewelry would probably not involve wood. They were big on showy jewels and metals. Maybe it’s in a fancy locket and rumored to hold part of the cross or something? You could have Anne make some sort of joke about how it’s probably fake. Artifacts like that were very common and almost never what they claimed to be.
- Henry’s feeling a little flat here, but that might just be the outline format
- This is another one that could use a subplot or two
- MICK BURNS DOWN THE GLOBE I LOVE IT
Episode 15:
- I like the option of Hex reacting badly to Rip
- Carter and Kendra cameo is really neat
- Continuity error: Len leaves and then says something in scene 6
LOTREWRITE: Len probably shouldn't leave since he has a big leaving sequence in the next episode
- Lots of good stuff here
- Make sure Lily stuff lines up with the following episode
LOTREWRITE: Lily should probably show up and have the argument with Stein in this episode, since the next one is very crowded
Episode 16:
- Make sure Lily stuff lines up with previous episode
- Bart Allen is from around this time period too. Can he cameo somehow?
- I love this entire concept
- All the hostages taken are women. Is there specific reasoning behind this? If not, maybe reconsider hostage choices
- So Lily is volunteering to be a hostage, not switch sides? That was a little unclear.
- I love the Monty Python joke. But it might be a little too anvil-y? Maybe change the wording from “what is your favorite color?” to “pick a color”?
- How are the trials being administered? Verbally with spoken answers? Touchscreen? Fancy buttons?
Episode 17:
- Cameo suggestion: A young Selina Kyle. The joke is that the found family she’s talking about consists entirely of cats. This can either be revealed to Jax via innocuous comment that wouldn’t make sense if referring to a human (something about litter boxes?) or revealed to the audience later when she looks at a picture in her wallet or something.
- I love Legion!Len being fed up this is a Good Scene
- The Legends make him cake aww
- That ending man
- Another episode that could use a bit of fleshing out. A little focus on what the other Legends are doing specifically might be enough.
Episode 18:
- Love the cold open
- Kendra cameo!
- Why would putting Ray in a toga convince the guard to let him pass?
- I’d add a subplot or a lot more happening at the gladiator fight. Does Darhk attempt to cheat? How does Sara counter that? Is she tempted to kill him? Maybe she could have a scene before or after where she talks to someone about her past with the League of Assassins and how sometimes she still has to fight those instincts? Even though she saved Laurel, he still almost killed her and Laurel is still almost completely out of reach for Sara so there’s got to be some pent-up anger there.
Episode 19:
- HI YES YOU’RE INCLUDING MORDRED LET ME LOVE YOU
- I can tell that you know your Arthurian legend or at least did some research this makes me so happy the Camelot episode was disappointingly generic in the official season but this is so much better
- MICK AND MORDRED TALKING ABOUT BEING TRUE TO YOURSELF I HAVE ASCENDED
- Yeah sorry I should have more constructive criticism but my brain kinda just starts screaming in delight at any mention of Mordred so just know that you did a good and there aren’t any glaring plot inconsistencies
Episode 20:
- Snart is totally dedicated to his theme enough to take Antarctica let’s be honest
- I believe there was a reference in a much earlier episode to Harley and Ivy both not returning someone’s calls. Did Harley do something to get back into the Legion’s good graces or…?
- Ted Kord :D
- This just needs more detail, in non-Len-related scenes in particular, which will presumably come with the full thing
Episode 21:
- How is Rip rescued?
- How does Ray contact GL and SS? Also, being in space shouldn’t keep them from being influenced by timeline change, since they’d still be within the bounds of time
- BATFAM!! (I was gonna say that it was surprising no one changed things to keep them from being vigilantes, but that could be because they have secret identities and none of the LoD knows who they are) (Also are you going to include Oracle? You might be able to tie her into Ray’s character arc, since she’s a superhero who not only doesn’t have powers, but is physically disabled.)
- How are you showing the spear going “fuck this“?
- Wait is the implication that pre-doomworld didn’t have Batman or was pre-Batman? Because the gameshow ep mentioned him in one of the trials
- I’m not sure about Sara being the one to throw Mick out. She is a former assassin, and she gave spear pieces to Thawne to save her sister earlier in the season. Seems like she would be among the more lenient. There should at least be some clarification of why. Maybe she’s upset because she was forced back into being an assassin?
Episode 22:
- “proper Time Master captain” ouch
- Sara’s scene with Laurel is lovely
- Why would Ray blow up if he touched the spear?
- “He holds up Cisco’s communication device with the” Finish this sentence
- LEN!!!
- This is a good ending
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God this episode starts out so delightfully awkward, LMAO. At least Ollie gets a kick out of it.
And, man, Greg, could you possibly broadcast it any louder that Conner and Megan obviously have the most kinky relationship out of any of the couples in the show? I mean god, sometimes I’m kind of surprised they even got away with this scene, given all the uh, adult situations it kind of entails these two participate in their bedroom. (I love the adult jokes and topics YJ was able to get away with, tbh, and I hope that kind of thing increases in s3 with it not being held back by CN)
HELLO, MEGAN!
Man, I love Mama Canary! It’s a good thing she’s around or these kids would have been beyond repair after Failsafe, especially considering how Bats expected them to just be okay a week after that happened. Yeah, okay, Bats; did you get over your parents in a week? NO.
Also, I like seeing the character’s rooms and stuff! I wish it was actually canon that all the Team members had rooms at the Cave for late missions and stuff, but I’m not so sure they do. Oh, well, that’s what fanfiction is for, and I don’t see why they can’t at least have lots of extra rooms for the Team to stay in if they need to, at the very least. (the idea of the Cave being a home away from home for them all is quite appealing)
“Suuuure, any friend of Bruce Wayne’s!” Goddamnit, Wally!
Wait wait wait. Why does Conner say “Tt, not a fan.” when Batman brings up Queen Bee? Did Conner have some kind of run-in with her prior to this episode? I’ve read all the tie-in comics and I know the actual s1 episodes like the back of my hand and I’m pretty sure Conner never had a run-in with Queen Bee before this. ????
“Dude, you totally left me hangin’!” Dick, you can’t just leave a bro hanging like that, not even for your internal crisis!
But in all seriousness though, this is the first time Robin has been put in charge of a mission since the failsafe exercise... it’s no wonder he looks completely unhappy about it, considering all the things he said to Black Canary in that therapy session; he’s not ready to put himself in that kind of position of power again, not with what happened, not with the way he sacrificed his friends for the sake of the mission, as he put it. Ugh, poor child... and it becomes even worse when you realize just how much he still behaves like Batman in s2, but that’s another rant for another season.
It’s also just nice to see a hint that the kids definitely still aren’t quite healed from Failsafe (probably never really did fully heal, tbh, I’m sure that stuck with them all for the rest of their lives).
“A border the Bialyans are in the process of ignoring.” (I just think Wally looks cute here :3)
STAMPEEEEEDE, STAMPEDE IN THE GORGE! (sorry, I couldn’t help myself)
Wally’s goggles are seriously so cool and one of my favorite things about him as a speedster, like he’s got cool high tech goggles that not even Barry or Bart or Jay have, but the sad thing is that he rarely utilizes them within the show. The only other times I can think of off the top of my head that involved Wally using the techy functions on his goggles were in Dropzone, this episode, the first part of the Museum Heist tie-in comic issue when he was with Barry, and the Gorilla Warfare tie-in comic issue.
Lol, poor naive Robin, thinking the Team can do stealth mode.
Conner vs. wildebeest. Conner wins. Wildebeest needs a chiropractor.
“Mom, mom, mom! We were just saved by Robin and Kid Flash!” What a little fanboy omg.
“--admired your stance on animal rights for years!” “You’ve only been on Earth six months!”
Oh Megan.
Oh my god it’s like they were meant to be siblings, they’re both losers! <3
You ever get second-hand embarrassment for characters? Because I totally get that for poor Megs when she’s gushing about Hello Megan to Marie. :( It always makes me cringe a little.
“Woah, you still have VHS. Where’s your 8-track?” LMAO oh my god, Wally, so offended by their lack of up-to-date technology. XD
Jesus christ, Gar, how the shit did you get from the main house over to the barn that quick without anyone seeing you? Do you secretly already have animal powers or are you just a fast little shit?
“I told you there’d be consequences!” “Always.” :((((((
Holy shit, I NEVER noticed that there were droplets of blood spattered across the floor leading to Garfield’s bedroom! Like obviously he has blood on his face when they show him a moment later but I somehow never picked up on the fact that there was actually a freakin’ trail of it leading to his room. That’s pretty intense, wow. Poor kid.
Oh my god, so we all know about the Aqualad poster that Gar has hanging over his bed right? Well I just noticed that he also has a Robin poster that you can see beside Robin when Marie is asking if any of them are O-.
I like the animation on Robin’s hair here, not to mention the whole gesture he makes here is just very natural.
I like how they made the animation for Hello! Megan look kind of grainy compared to the show, to give it a little bit of that old video tape look.
“Oh yeah, pure coincidence.”
Glad to know at least Wally seems to find the situation rather amusing, look at those facial expressions, LMAO.
“Ugh, I still remember the headache from the last time he brain blasted us!” Come on, Wally, quit pretending like the only thing you REALLY remember isn’t all that quality time you spent with the beautiful blonde you found unconscious in the desert. You know, girl that goes by the name of Artemis that you have a huge gross crush on but are too afraid to admit because you’re scared of your own feelings for her? THAT girl? (I had to slip some Spitfire in here, leave me alone)
I honestly think Megs looks pretty badass, and I like that they keep the little red criss cross going across her chest just to further identify her in this particular form.
Aww, poor boys. That was rude Megs T_T
A+ voice acting from Megan’s VA when she says “No, please, stop...”. Also for the “You don’t know me at all!” Yesss, that fierceness!
And thus Psimon is the first victim of M’gann’s later delve into the dark waters in s2. >.<
“Gee, Bruce Wayne sure got here fast, almost like he kne--” “Don’t you have a souvenir to collect or something?” LOL
“Something you’d like to tell us?” Wally quit being so sassy.
“Blad M’gann. Still hot.” I... really don’t know whether to say that’s sweet or not, Wally. LMAO (what a horndog)
Aaaand, blackmail. :(
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I think they might have Wally relocate for a bit, but not permanently. Right now they have the mentor/mentee thing, but once his powers and experience become on the same level as Barry's I could see them sending him to another show for a bit, LOT. I'm talking S5/6 here. Or if they do do a teen titans or young justice type spin off I can see them sending all the youngsters there.
That’s possible, but LOT would still have to be around for that to work. Teen Titans-lite is possible. I hope they manage to keep all the Flash family characters on one show, though.
I don’t think they’d send CS to LOT permanently. I could see an episode, but the F writers like CS too much. As for other female regulars, I don’t think they’d have another regular female character be a reporter, tbh (especially since they struggle incorporating journalism for 1). They like to think in types, so if a new female comes in she’ll either be a fighter, since that’s the one type we don’t have yet on the show. Or sciency if they do replace CS (which again I really don’t think so)
Yeah, it’s clear they like taking care of Cait. And the only professions they care about are police officers (not CSI!), STAR Labs loungers, and powers. If a new female regular came in, I imagine it would be Jesse.
even though the main reason i want caitlin to go off to LOT is so we wouldn’t have to deal with her SB obssessed fans anymore, i think LOT would be offer better characterization and more action-driven storylines for her since she’s quite boring on the flash.
I don’t know about better characterization, but she’d definitely get to see more action. Flash doesn’t do much for you if you’re not a speedster.
Sounds like Uncle Guggie’s going to FAIL LOT too. He’s trying to redeem Arr0w, but it may be too late. Maybe Sm0@k and Sn0w should tag team over to LOT. He’s going to have RF and Black Flash on LOT, but didn’t think to collaborate on story. “I wish I could say that we were so smart to take advantage of the new timeslot and do that, but we weren’t that smart. We just had already sort of been doing that organically anyway when we found out about the new timeslot.”
“I wish I could say we were so smart” should be the Arrow-verse motto.
I think Black Siren will eventually be converted into Black Canary. Oliver will redeem and fall in love with her. She’s a meta like the real BC. And the new darker Felicity will go to LOT.
Interesting scenario. It would be really cool to see two people fall in love with their ex’s doppelganger, but I don’t know if I believe that’s happening. I’d tune in if did, though!
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