#(Or at least first older gay ship)

[the-poppy-outie-effect]

Begging yall to keep Pigsy's characterization in your freenoodles content

Yes, he's a sweetheart and madly in love with Tang, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still a grumpy middle aged man and Will React As Such. More grumpy middle aged man Pigsy characterization please, it's very important

[olderthannetfic]

OTNF, do you have an example of a show or other work that actually legitimately queerbaits the audience?

Because I know what queerbaiting is, and I know that all the examples I seen thrown around are acutally examples of queer coding, queer subtext, or of a popular fandom ship simply being a ship instead of being canon, but I can't actually think of anything that actually is queerbaiting.

And I know a commenter is about to chime in with the BBC Sherlock show. So I'll preempt it by saying that that one is a fandom ship and the show itself has less queer subtext or coding than most adaptations, even if it has more dumb gay jokes.

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In my opinion, the number of shows that did this in canon is functionally zero.

The closest real example is that Teen Wolf promotion where they joked about Sterek as though they'd make it canon if people voted for the show (in the Teen Choice Awards? something of the sort).

The entire concept is deeply flawed because it is heavily predicated on the idea that this part of the audience is huge and actively courted by mainstream media makers in the US and places like that. In reality, normie Hollywood types are usually dense as hell about the level of hoyay in their media. When it's brought to their attention, they're bemused or amused or dismissive or think it's nice if fans can see what they want in a canon. (Sometimes, this is because they're terminally straight. Sometimes, it's because they genuinely and eternally see buddy cops as Just Bros and a boring story about pursuing someone whom you will never regard as an equal or bestie as Romance, and this is often true of queer people making mainstream media.) In a few cases, they tried to make something gay, but the producer/studio/network head/Chinese government/etc. stopped them, which is still not queerbaiting. What they aren't is excited about the economic opportunities provided by pulling a bait and switch on that part of the audience.

The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of media either does not give two shits about our kind of audience or is aimed specifically at us and not others. The idea of gaining meaningful ratings or money with this kind of move is just... not how most industries work.

Related concepts are real (as you say), and people keep trying to redefine queerbaiting to cover some of them so they can pretend the term has any actual utility instead of just using the older terms for these specific other concepts. The narrow form of queerbaiting is a self-important delusion that fandom made up to torture ourselves with.

I wish all those dumbass undergrad papers I see blathering on about the subject would start their exploration by at least trying to figure out whether the practice is real in the first place and why and how the idea of it spread instead of taking it as a given.

[teambuddie]

when i started to watch 911 i already liked buddie, but i wanted to give b*ckt*mmy a chance, i really did, but honestly, i just couldn't and i'm gonna explain why.

1. eddie was haunting the narrative.

after watching 6 seasons of buck dating women i'm not gonna lie i was pretty excited to see him flirt with tummy because yay bisexual buck!!! and the very first scene i was filled with joy until... eddie was in every corner of the relationship. i know, the writers were using buddie as a diversion, they wanted to surprise us that hey he was jealous of tummy not eddie! but then they kept eddie haunting the narrative through the whole relationship. every bt scene eddie was there or was mentioned and obviously the writers did that on purpose, because we're supposed to keep thinking about eddie, we're supposed to know buck is still thinking about eddie even if he's dating someone else. to me the writers made bt impossible to exist separated from eddie and buddie and that made it impossible to me to truly give bt a chance even if i was already biased.

2. tummy is BORING.

look, i was so happy buck was gonna date a man and figure out his sexuality, i really was, but holy shit tummy made it almost unbearable to watch some scenes. how can a man be so boring??? he has zero personality, zero charm, zero everything. every LI from both buck and eddie had at least SOMETHING going on, you know? even natalia and ana had more personality than tummy and that's a bit insane like how a character who showed up for like 5 episodes is more well developed and interesting than you?? and again, to me the writers did that deliberately, they wanted us to feel like something was missing, they didn't want us to get attached to tummy because he wasn't going to be a constant, he was a plot device and he was treated as such. no personality, no complexities, nothing, a blank state.

3. the acting.

this is probably gonna sound mean, but i have to be honest. one of the things that made it even more impossible to enjoy bt was l*u's acting. imo 911 has fantastic acting, like ANGELA BASSETT is on the show, the bar is high guys! even side characters act really well throughout the show and yeah sometimes there is overacting, but mostly is really good and expressive. and then there's l*u... he's so stale, so unexpressive, so bland is like watching a sixth grader acting on a broadway production (but a sixth grader would do a better job probably). i can't take tummy seriously as a character because not only is he boring but i don't feel like watching a "real" character, just a person pretending to be a character and i know that's what acting is but good acting makes you forget that what you're watching is fiction and makes you feel for the characters. l*u's acting achieves none of that.

4. b*ckt*mmies.

i understand when b*ckt*mmies say they can't enjoy buddie bc of the fandom, i do bc they just pushed me even further away from bt. the way they reacted to the break up was... something. some of them had valid reasons to be upset and ofc they were gonna be emotional about their ship breaking up, but the whole "this is homophobic/biphobic" discourse was too much. first they decide to simply forget michael was also an elder gay and say that bt was the only gay couple that showed someone older can be happy... like, are you serious???? "oh but michael wasn't a main character" but his storyline was very well developed and it just as a representation as bt. even better than bt bc no one was saying how he wants the other to have daddy issues (that irked me so much god WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT????). calling ostark biphobic bc he said he wants buck to sleep around again??? as if he said that bc he's bi when it's obvious he said buck should sleep around bc he's buck. ostark showed nothing but support to bi buck and he was always so excited about the storyline, but since he wasn't too onboard with bt and said he'd like for his character to sleep around a bit suddenly he's biphobic???? the way they decided to interpret what tummy said as him saying buck isn't sure of what he wants when it's clear he meant that buck should explore more his sexuality not to be sure but because that's what he probably did and he knows it's healthy and normal to get with new people to figure out what you like and what you want. nothing about the breakup and what ostark/tim said was prejudiced and while i understand feeling hurt and interpreting some stuff with a negative light, i don't think they were being fair to the writing and the crew.

maybe i'm biased bc buddie was already my ship even before i watched 911, but honestly i think if they wanted us to root for bt they'd make their relationship more compelling, they'd give tummy more personality, they'd not make eddie haunt the narrative, but that's not what they did and you may think that's "unfair" to bt and tummy, but honestly it was a warning sign b*ckt*mmies ignored... the sign that said: "this is not meant to be". when tummy called buck evan it wasn't without a deeper meaning, it showed us he was the odd one out, it showed us he didn't belong. and so, he's gone.

[spicybylerpolls]

It's a shame how guarded the fandom is regarding sex. First and foremost because sex, and specifically shame around sex, is heavily, heavily tied to Mike and Will's story.

If Lucas can have a 69 sign above his head while he's sleeping, why is it so hard to believe Mike and Will are having sexual dreams about each other? Especially if you ship them and acknowledge the 69 sign was obviously signaling a sexual dream?

If Lucas can have a reference to dirty magazines under his bed, why is it so hard to believe Mike and Will also have dirty magazines hidden around their bedroom?

If Dustin can have a reference to masturbation, why is it so hard to believe Mike and Will are also interested in masturbation as well?

They specifically put these references in the other, ORIGINAL, party members, who are the same age as Mike and Will, while also including references for them too (that people just can't accept), signaling all these boys are starting to think about sex. The difference is, Lucas and Dustin don't have any shame surrounding who they're attracted to.

I don't know about you (however I imagine this is a common experience for many queer people) but before I accepted that I was attracted to the same sex, I'd constantly find myself watching the women in porn and consciously trying to focus on the man. I'd tell myself things like "oh - you're just interested in how your body will look when you're older" or "oh - it's normal when you watch porn" etc - basically anything to reaffirm that I wasn't gay. And this is all between ages 13-16.

This is exactly how I see Mike, specifically. Starting to notice his attraction to men but consciously repressing it, telling himself he's normal and it doesn't mean anything. And I think people forget (or maybe just feel uncomfortable talking about) this part - that the sexual attraction, the shame in the sexual attraction, is a huge, huge part of realizing you're queer and coming-of-age as a queer person.

And that's why Mike doesn't want to hug Will at the airport (or a big part of it). It feels awkward, even if he doesn't know why. It feels awkward because he feels ashamed for liking Will. I mean the first shot we get of Mike setting eyes on Will in Season 4 is of him looking at Will's chest and then quickly averting his eyes. This tells us everything we need to know - Mike is attracted to Will, feels ashamed about it and doesn't want anyone to know (or likely doesn't even fully understand it himself, but at the very least, knows it's not "right").

Point being, his shame surrounding specifically his sexual attraction to men is one of his biggest issues and failing to talk about it is a HUGE DISSERVICE to his character!

It also does a huge disservice to Will's character, too. The repercussions of this shame, a lot of the time, is Will's situation - not having your first kiss, all of your friends growing up before you, hating yourself because you have a crush on your best friend. All because he's romantically AND sexually attracted to men. This is what Will's thinking. If he wasn't such a freak, if he didn't want to kiss boys, if he wasn't starting to feel sexually attracted to men, then everything would be so much easier. He wouldn't feel like such a mistake.

This is why I think they'll absolutely have a sex scene in S5 and also why I think it will be explicit. I previously thought it'd likely be implied and that that'd be enough but I don't see it the same anymore. Now, I don't think this means it has to be racy, obviously, but just that the audience would see some of it. Quite frankly, doing an implied sex scene, while I wouldn't be dissatisfied, is a disservice to the story.

See, with Jancy, the implied sex scene works. The tension between these two characters has been building for a season and a half and we know they want to have sex. We don't have to see it, we just need to know that they do.

But with Mike and Will? That's not the case at all.

First of all, the tension has been building for 5 seasons, which is the entire series. An implied sex scene would ultimately be a tame ending to this storyline.

Second, Mike and Will specifically feel shame about this act, Jonathan and Nancy don't. We don't need to see their reaction but we need to see Mike and Will's reactions because it completes their characters. Because they have felt shame about this specific thing, not showing them feeling comfortable doing this, with each other, would be incomplete.

Third, think about Steve and Nancy's sex scene - we're shown it specifically because Nancy feels uncomfortable.

Ultimately, there's no need to show Jonathan and Nancy having sex because there's nothing left unresolved. That's what the Duffers actually get right - only showing a sex scene when it's important for the narrative and for the characters. Even Hopper and Joyce point to this, despite them being the oldest characters and the most suitable to have an explicit sex scene, opposed to Steve and Nancy. That's because there's nothing else to tell us about Joyce and Hopper through this sex scene - we know they love each other. I don't see why the Duffers would break this pattern now.

And well, even if you don't want the scene, I don't see how you could argue that the moment Mike and Will decide to have sex isn't extremely important for their characters and would tell us A LOT about how they both feel, especially Mike seeing as we don't get his perspective.

You could argue the kiss would suffice but... does it? A kiss isn't really... sexual. And Romantic, sure. But this wouldn't address the shame they specifically feel about sex. Mike starting to cry while having sex with Will tells us so much more about his character than him crying while kissing Will.

Kissing is also a thing children do. Ending a 5 season, 9 year long coming-of-age project, with two characters who have fought inter-dimensional monsters that quite literally represent their shame, simply kissing? Something we've already seen one of these characters do, multiple, multiple times?

Okay, I guess.

Anyway, I know a lot of these points have already been made, and that this was really long, but I just wanted to say them again because it upsets me so much, especially during rewatch when I see all the themes right in front of me. And I know it upsets other people, other young adults, too. Seeing this experience represented so accurately - one that you might even still feel shame about, one that you went through not too long ago - and not even being able to discuss it openly in the fandom, is sad. Being called a freak or a pedophile for simply suggesting that sex is important here and the Duffers are telling us so. Sex... the thing that literally created us all. And that almost everyone starts thinking about between the ages of 13-14.

Sigh. At least we have this blog. Thank you for that. 🫶🏼

[m00neroni]

Hello!!!! I'm here to bother you!!!

Who do you think r and s first kisses were? Were they each other's? Was it good? Was it horrible? How old were they? Was it embarrassing?! I'd love to hear your thoughts!

(this ask is inspired by a conversation I had with my roommate today about bad first kiss stories)

Hello!!!! Help I love this question! I've also had this conversation with some friends and I always find it interesting to talk about hahaha

Mind you, I'm gonna talk from the point of a wolfstar shipper that quite mostly only ship them with each other. BUT that doesn't mean past experiences aren't a thing.

Let's see.

As per Sirius, the answer is... so obvious? For me at least. It was James. The idea was let's experiment when they both started realising that maybe maybe they were a bit queer and the staring at my best friend phase wasn't just curiosity. Around 14-15 I think it's a natural age for them, as I don't think they were very interested on that before. They kissed, it was as messy as a first inexperienced kiss could have been and they liked it. The routine of kissing behind the bed curtains went on for months but there was a point in which they realised they didn't feel the desire of being a couple or involved romantically. It was fun and stopped organically, even if the blurred lines between them stayed.

And as per Remus, I have two options. One less controversial than the other. But well, you asked! I do love Remus and Lily being close friends even without such a proof in canon (I know it's not very popular lately in this part of the fandom, and I understand the reasons! But I still like it!) So, following that line, I do think Remus thought at some point he liked Lily romantically and they maybe had a Hogsmeade date at 14, trying to see if there was something. Then, at the end of their horrendous experience at Madame Puddifoots Lily kissed him and both were like "erm, absolutely not", they laughed it off and that was it.

My other favourite option is Remus having a summer crush at 15 on his small village, maybe an older boy, and he attached himself to him like a leech without really knowing why. One thing led to another and my boy received mixed signals from said crush, and Remus ended up kissing him out of nowhere, very awkwardly. The other boy (let's call him Oliver) reciprocated just to not make Remus feel bad but when they were done he rejected him very sweetly and Remus had a bit of a crisis. Three weeks later when he saw Sirius and James at King's Cross after their growing spurt, he confirmed he was super gay.

So, I think both had different but equally awkward experiences as any other teenager. Their first kiss with each other was rather sweet and loving and they couldn't stop after it, though.

I've loved this question! Sorry for yapping so much hahaha❤️

[theyanderespecialist]

Base Yandere HuskerDust Headcanons (Hazbin Hotel)

[Hello, My Sexy Muffins! I am back with a new chapter! This One is with Husk and Angel Sharing you, hope you enjoy this!] 

(Disclaimer: Husk and Angel are Not a canon couple (not yet at least) in the show, they are also not yandere in canon! This is just for fun and not to be taken seriously at all! Simping for fictional characters is fine! Just do not be illegal or gross about it! Yanderes are not ideal partners to have in real life. Also, remember to separate fiction from reality and headcanon from canon! Thank you, and happy pride month!) 

(Side Not Husk in Pansexual in canon and is any hole is a goal and Angel is a gay man in canon. Again this is just for fun and shipping in fiction is fine just don't be buttholes about it!) 

-Base Yandere Headcanons With HuskerDust From Hazbin Hotel!- 

.These two both have very intense feelings for you. They want you to be theirs and theirs alone. 

.Of course, it did not start off like that. 

.They at first did not want to share you, but the more they actually got to know each other the more they realized they could and would share you. 

.Angel is more of the flirty-forward one with you. 

.He makes it clear the feelings he has for you and how he wants you to belong to him and husk. 

.Husk is more standoffish with his feelings at first, but he does admit he does like you as a drinking buddy and likes to be close to you. 

.Husk is an older man and has been around for a bit, having been an overlord. 

.He would know how to play the game. He would bet his soul on that he could make you his and Anegl's. 

.The two would be able to work together and make you fall head over heels for them. 

.They know what they are doing and will be able to charm you. 

.Husk wants your consent to love him and the angel. 

.Angel thinks getting to the fucking part will win you over more than Husk's plan of taking it slow. 

.In the end, they are both protective of you and would tag team any rivals. 

.Who did their rivals think they were trying to win you over? When you belong to them. 

.Angel is one of the more vengeful and rough yanderes of the two. 

.Meaning he will take great pleasure in a full assault on rivals and anyone that hurts you. 

.While Husk is not a full-on assault but more like a drug and kidnaps his rivals slowly killing them and even using angelic weapons so they cannot come back. 

.Husk is the more deadly of the two, while Angel is more of the act first thing later. 

.Put the two together and you have an extremely dangerous yandere pairing! 

.Angel will take you out clubbing to cheer you up, while Husk is more the one to talk to you and see what is bothering you to make you feel better. 

.They both are helpful in their own way. 

.Angel is actually a good cook and is the one to cook for you, while Husk always has a good drink for you. 

.They do not share you with anyone else though. 

.Husk would bet you a lot for time alone with you, he is willing to gamble so he can win alone time with you. 

.Husk and Angel are also into things like BDSM and you can expect them to be into that with you, just saying! 

.With their yandere sides they would make sure that they knew where you were and who you were with. Unless one of them was with you. 

.They rather die than see you hurt and they are both extremely loyal yanderes, where they will never cheat on you and they will fight to the death with you. 

.Husk is the wise older one and able to give you advice and to be the one for the complex stuff. 

.But Angel is the one to go for modern things and such and for advice on that stuff. 

.They are a good balance of partners and would do what it takes to keep you safe and to protect you. 

.But if anyone tried to hurt you, that is when their yandere sides show and they are downright bloodthirsty and ruthless. 

.They would confess to you over dinner. 

.If you say yes, you can know for sure they are going to at the least make out with you. 

.If you say no, they know they will have to step up their game, the tell each other after you are gone that it did not matter they will do better and they WILL have you no matter what! 

[YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS another chapter is done! I hope you all enjoyed this and stay sexy, all of my sexy muffins!] 

[bucksboobs]

I really hate even bringing up this sort of thing bc it makes me feel gender essentialist but I've noticed how most of the people who are anti bucktommy are women and most queer men in the fandom are totally fine with (if not outright ship) bucktommy.. idk it just feels kind of wrong.

So like it’s complicated because the first thing to remember is that this fandom is predominantly women to begin with, because tumblr is predominantly women to begin with. So like yes odds on, a lot of the blogs you see will be women and that means a lot of the haters you will see will be women.

However it has to be noted that it was not gay or bi or queer men reblogging that one post about killing Tommy with a gun for flirting with his boyfriend. It is not gay or bi or queer men making the most vile comments about Tommy or LFJ. It’s not gay or bi or queer men making the posts about how “you wanna go for the title? Is the gayest thing to happen in Buck’s kitchen and he kiss a man in there.”

There is a lack or at least deficit of men-loving-men perspective in the fandom that I don’t think we’re totally conscious of, and that’s what ultimately led to the outrage over Tommy’s daddy joke, because, as I’ve pointed out, “daddy issues” means something completely different when applied to a woman, and if one was a woman who identified with Buck, one may have felt very demeaned by that joke, but if one was a queer man who identified with Buck, one would find the joke pretty inoffensive, sorta flirty, and kind of hot coming from a suave older man. Gender absolutely played a role in how that line came across.

[goo-berz]

Talking about Vivziepops' weird art of minors

I've never been the biggest fan of Vivziepop, I've always knew about their weird behavior (since like 2018 ~ 2019) before they were as popular as they are now.

She has done a lot of weird stuff but the thing I mainly wanna focus on in this post is their character Addison. Addison is a 17 year old gay effeminate fox humanoid from Zoophobia, he's in a relationship with a 19 year old Teacher's assistant named Gustav. Many people get confused by this but Addison has been CONFIRMED to be 17 years old by Vivziepop. Someone had changed Addison's Fandom Wiki page back in 2019 to say they're 18, when this is not true, Vivzie has confirmed they're 17. I did go back and change the age to 17 on the Wiki with the correct age in hopes that people stop believing incorrect information.

Vivzie confirming their age: https://twitter.com/vivziepop/status/1128064633166712832

The tags in this post brings up the fact that Addison is nearly 18 - not 18 yet - They're still 17.

Edit: Oh yeah, I want to add on context to this tag: "I should mention the characters canon ages are higher then when I first made them because as I wrote the story any big age gaps were uncomfy"

I've heard multiple older fans of Vivziepop say that Addison was originally meant to be 14-15 years old, and I've heard that Gustav was originally meant to be in his 30s.

Addison was created 2010, She began shipping Gustav with Addison in 2011, and Zoophobia began in 2012. So the fact she shipped a 14-15 year old character with a 30 year old one to begin with, and encouraged her friend to draw intense NSFW art of them together is so.. weird.

Anyways, Vivzie also hints at Addison being a minor, using wording indicating how young they are in age in their Blogpost introducing the character

"I finally created a few concepts, but the one I have been toying with the most is a young character much like Gale. An albino boy, with an identical albino sister"

If you need more proof, Addison is also preyed on by Mirage, a character that SPECIFICALLY goes after minors... that's basically her main personality trait, that she's a p3d0. She goes after Addison because he's a young submissive boy and easy to manipulate.

Anyways, back on topic. I personally I don't see anything wrong with the age gap of 17 & 19, however I do think it's weird to have this relationship between Addison and Gustav.. he's not exactly a teacher, but he still holds power over Addison due to the fact he's the voluntary teacher's assistant. Back when Zoophobia was popular there were people who found this dynamic weird & creepy considering the fact that Addison is basically a student under Gustav. Also, I just wanna bring this up because I find this weird, Gustav was originally under the impression that Addison was a year one student and much younger than he actually is, yet he still tried to flirt with him.. erm..? Yeah..

Anyways, that isn't the main point. The point is that Vivzie DREW NSFW OF HER 17 YEAR OLD CHARACTER AND HIS 19 YEAR OLD TEACHER... erm.. holy cracker balls? Literally how can anyone excuse these?

Vivzie also drew Gore of Addison too, but I won't post it here cus it's very graphic and weird and idk why she drew it!!

And .. possibly the worst drawing of them all.. Holy titties what is this... If you're wondering, the stuff under the censors is ACTUAL NSFW. It's not suggestive, or implied s3x, It's their ACTUAL WEE WEEs.

These accounts are poorly archived, so it's hard to find the original post and what it originally said. However after some digging I was able to find out the original text said

“ dollcreep: “ i can only see ‘dark-Günter’ exposing him and addi to a public area like so…so. yeah. Günter says; merry Christmas. god this question is super old. vivz reminded me about it"

So, I'm assuming that Dollcreep drew this, not Vivzie. However I was also able to find out from the limited resources there is that Vivzie reposted this to her accounts Vivzie-zp (unarchived) and ZPanswers, which are also now deleted, but if you view the accounts tumblr archives over the Wayback machine you can see that she did indeed repost this. http://web.archive.org/web/20120801182958/http://zpanswers.tumblr.com/archive

If you don't know, Dollcreep and Vivzie used to be best friends, however aren't anymore. Dollcreep originally designed Gustav, originally named Gunter, and Vivzie bought the design from them. Vivzie designed Addison back around 2010, and taking into account the old caption, this means that Vivzie.. allowed Dollcreep to draw NSFW art of their underaged character ;-; oh my gawd!!! Whatthe heck guys... like I said at this time Addison was still 14 - 15 and Gustav (Gunter) was in his 30s.

Also I want to mention that this drawing was from 2011, so that means Vivzie had this pedophilic ship with Dollcreeps OC for years, & after she bought the rights to the character she decided to.. keep the pedophilic ship and write it into Zoophobia by making him Addisons teacher. That's crazy..?

Anyways, because I brought up Mirage. Mirage is written pretty bad. She was a character meant to be in.. or scrapped from Zoophobia, she was meant to be a villain who preyed on the kids, mainly Addison. Her main trait is that she likes kids

Vivzie's made a bunch of drawings of Mirage preying on kids which I think is pretty weird, especially considering how poorly some of them represent it and make it seem like a joke instead.

and yeah, we all know about this infamous drawing she made of Mirage preying on Kestrel, a 14 year old. Pretty weird

Also when I looked at the web archive of Vivzie's ZPanswers blog (a Zoophobia ask blog) she accepted many weird asks about Kestrel, 14, and Addison, 17, like an ask asking if Kestrel had ever been fucked by a horse & how Kestrel, Addison & others would act when they were drunk. Which is also pretty weird to me I won't lie

Anyways that's all for now. Sorry if this is all over the place its 4am and I just wanted to get my thoughts out that vivziepop is kinda a weirdo

[helphelph]

Rating pjo ships because I've seen a good amount of people doing it lately and it seems fun. But there's a twist!! I used the wackiest rating system imaginable because I'm insane. Have fun.

Percabeth: a hundred hearts out of five blue cookies.

Their dynamic is not only incredibly fun but also they complement each other very well. Honestly, when I first read the books, I didn't really want them to get together because I didn't want another "main guy gets main girl" situation, but they're honestly made for each other.

Jiper: five daggers out of ten great canyons

They were incredibly forced, but honestly not that bad of a ship. They were really cute but I dont have much to say about it.

Valgrace: fifty festus heads out of ten college aus

One of my favorite Jason ships ever. I love me some tragic gays.

Pipabeth: Two goddesses out of fifteen owls

I will ALWAYS support a good wlw ship. And Piper defo had a microcrush on Annabeth while they were on the Argo II. Plus the fanart of them is SO good.

Jercy/Person: twelve riptides out of ten horses

I like reading about it and it's quite fun to think about. Nothing much to say honestly.

Perachel: Ten prophecies out of nine pancakes drowned in syrup

They could have been cute. I dont really ship them though.

Annrachel(is that the name?): three prophecies out of five spiders

Korrasami vibes lmao. I think they're better off as friends but I will read a fanfic if I find an interesting one.

Solangelo: twenty-six skulls out of ten doctors notes

They were written for each other. As in Rick made sure that they were written for each other. I havent read tsats yet and im still on the first toa book so I don't have much on their dynamic. Still I like them and they visually look good together.

Valdangelo: ninety-four automatons out of six pomegranate seeds

They would have been unstoppable I tell you! Unstoppable!! Or maybe I'm biased. Either way they would have been an amazing couple together but Rick was too much of a coward to let them be (boy)friends. (Can you tell I'm biased?)

Jeyna: One bad father out of two older sisters.

UPDATE!!1!1!1 It has come to my attention that Reyna is canonically aroace with no romantic or sexual interest whatsoever so this ship is out of the window.

Jasico: 3/10

Personally I've never seen the hype for them. I like their dynamic a lot but not really in a shipping way. Sorry pjotumblr😔

Pernico: One bathe in the river styx out of thirteen hades figurines

The angst of Nico having a crush in Percy is a good concept to explore. Both in relationships with other characters and Nico's character development. But them being in a relationship together just irks me. It's not entirely problematic(at least i dont think it is? Correct me if im wrong), but still, the age gap makes me uncomfortable.

Ruegard: thirty-seven drakons out of one patrochilles parallel

Like I said, I love me some wlw ships. And while I've never really been a diehard fan of them, the fanart is amazing, so of course i ship them.

Frazel: 6/10

Rick try to make a girl and a boy stay friends challenge(impossible). But jokes aside, the 13-16 gap makes me annoyed. Three years isn't much but it matters in this situation. And it annoys me bacuse I want to like them. They have a cute dynamic but the maturity gap between them kinda gets in the way. That said, I would probably have liked them a lot better if they just stayed friends.

Valzhang: Nine eagles out of twenty hidden bunkers

Like I said before, I will consume almost every ship in a fandom. And if I find good fanfics of them, I will read it because I like exploring different characters' dynamics with each other. It's fun and I honestly think the pjo fandom should chill out a little. The amount of people who put others down for shipping something that isn't canon is way too much. Just let people enjoy their ships.

I think that's all? I didn't include Grover and Juniper because I honestly don't really have any opinions on them. They just exist and it's kinda like Rick just made them canon because he didn't want grover to feel left out. Let me know if there's other ships you'd want me to rate!

[weezyjames]

PUNCH OUT HCSSSSSS (and some madeleine stuff!)

awwww yeahhh babyyyyyyy

i love punch out. i don’t really have interesting headcanons for most of them, but i’ll come up with them in the future i’m sure. for now, here’s glass joe, von kaiser, and aran ryan!! madeleine is closest with those three!!

JE SUIS GLASSSSSS JOOEEEEE HAHAAAAAAAA!!!

Glass Joe!

first, he’s my FAVORITE PUNCH OUT CHARACTER!

he’s just a sweetie. honesyly.

okay headcanons

the name i use for him is joeseph, and i know a lot of you guys call him that too hehe, i don’t have a las name cuz i didn’t think of one HAHAHAH

he’s so gay. he’s been shown to have at least SOME attraction to women but like. you can’t deny that he’s kinda fruity

speaking of orientation, in my punchoutverse, he’s shipped with kaiser and aran. or more like. they’re fighting for his love!

i think he has a very clean house, and a very PRETTY one at that

he values aesthetics, that’s why he dresses so well. just look at his cutscene isn’t that just the most cutest little outfit

madeleine gets him to model her designs 😁😁😁☺️☺️☺️

speaking of madeleine. they’re besties!!! it started with madeleine coming up to him after a match, and then just never leaving him alone after that HAHAHAHAH

they queen OUTTTT. joes never been a gossiper, but madeleine sure is. she’s not a good influence

“girlll can you believe king hippos shorts fell down during the match…”

“madeleine, it happens ALL THE TIME.”

“oh! .. trashy :/“

BAHAHAHAH IM SORRY KING HIPPO I LOVE YOU

anyways!

i think joes personality outside of the ring is actually like, quite interesting, and he’s quite lively. you’d think that he’d just be kind of shy and quiet because of how “weak” he seems to be, but i think he’s actually a lot of fun to be around

watch his cutscenes in between rounds, especially in his title defense mode. he’s just silly! even when he almost trips, he just giggles. i think he’s one of the most confident men in the game. fight me

i don’t think he’s like, flamboyant, though. he’s just the right amount of playful and expressive, and then he’s just chill

but like yes, i think he’s just very expressive! he gets excited when talking about things he likes and he’s just sooo cute and happy

he likes baking, fashion, and literature!

i think he enjoys a little cup of coffee and a book, thank you very much

i think he was a bit coddled growing up, and was an only child

ahhh yes. the big brother of all time

Von Kaiser!

i think about this guy so much.

my name for him is viktor von kaiser

in my punchoutverse, he served in the military from when he was 18-25

then madeleine was born, and he came home to visit

but during his visit, their parents had a bad accident, and unfortunately didn’t make it

he was always close with them, especially his mom, so he was so upset

he was the only known living relative madeleine had at the time, so he decided to stay behind and look after her

thats why they’re so close :))

he’s the best big brother in the world!

when he started teaching boxing, madeleine was his first student

so sweet i’m 😭😭😭

they still live together, but viktor is often away for his matches

.. and he loses most of them

look, he’s getting older!

don’t worry.. he’ll come back stronger than ever!!

he used to be really good in his prime, but now time has affected his skills

he practices, in fact, he has a strict routine that he follows

but i think he just needs to take a break, maybe he’s burning out

anyways!!!

he’s very good at remembering dates.

“madeleine. i got you a cake.”

“oh!! thank you vik but um. why?”

“it is the 10th anniversary of the first boxing match you won.” ( like. children’s boxing. or something. )

HES JUST SWEET OKAY.

he might seem rude and intense, but if you’re special to him, you’ll know it. he’s very thoughtful

not to say that he isn’t rude or intense… he can be a bit of a stick in the mud, and is kind of rude about it too

but that’s what makes von kaiser, von kaiser 🫶🫶🫶

he knows how to have a good time when it comes to it

he’s like a dad

ummmmm hes gay for glass joe!!!!

i think they’ve always been best friends, but viks always had a little crush on him too

he’d take joe out to nice restaurants and classy events

he’s kind of old fashioned, but it’s kinda sweet too

i just love him 😭😭😭

gulp… the next boxer is…

YA PROBABLY GOT CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Aran Ryan!

god i. i. i. i hate him.

JUST KIDDINGGGG love you aran

um, i think he smells nasty as shit! that’s one

sure he showers but does he REALLY…

god what a stinky little FREAK OMG!!!

his name is. aran ryan. hats just his name HAHHAHAA

ummm he’s very close with his family, i think he has a bunch of siblings

thas probably why he’s real close with madeleine, she’s like his own little sister

mads thinks he’s gross but in a big brother way

they still hang out a bunch and are also besties!

mads just wants to hose him down tbh. stinky little FREAK

but uhh yes he’s gay for glass joe (who isn’t tbh)

pfft he tags along to the events viktor takes joe to. aran you asshole

he’s genuinely kind of a dick. but he knows when to be serious

i hope..

he’s got fucked up hands. that’s what he gets for fighting with HORSESHOES

jesus

i love him so much

BAABHAHA

anyways..

THATS IT DOR MY HWADCANONS GUYS!!! omg!!!! ty for the attention on my mads posts, she’s my girl and i love her. i might post more boxers but for now you guys can have this heheehe

my hcs are kind of booty but BLEEHHH ENJOY!!

[pinkbelugacollective]

my favorite thing about about the 90's young justice solos is that they catered towards three distinct audiences, and yet after all these years, the one that would have been LEAST likely to be projected into nowadays is now the MOST woobified out of the three.

tim: a story for white kids, by a white guy who hates poor people, and didn't really take itself OUT of that white-male-projective-state even after all these years. bonus note, now the gays can project into tim cuz timbo's finally out the closet, and chuck dixon wants to kill himself over it, but it's ok bc we like tim even tho we don't like chuck.

bart: a story initially about a time-displaced refugee whose narrative heavily mirrored a refugee's forced assimilation into a new culture WHILE also appealing to the adhd/autism crowd, which the writer was absolutely OK with because bart's story can be accepted by BOTH the refugee narrative enjoyers and the adhd/autism crowds without impinging on his narrative poignancy, plus mark waid actually loved bart and he loves that WE love bart. inshallah he will write his boy again.

kon: a story about teenagers who are being neglected, and so he's acting out every which way and partying it up because he was meant to appeal to the 90's teenage rage and show how easy it is for kids to get caught up with predators like knockout and tana because of the lack of structure and discipline in their lives, but when geoff decided to ignore nearly ten years of creator-run canon, we had to deal with his timkonnie dreams, and now geoff's leaving, so now we gotta deal with the yja nonsense and some lady's self-insert dreams going into a character whose writer is not only still alive, but actively on the bi!kon train but from the 90's crackhead era perspective. and HE'S the one most woobified.

it's absolutely facinating cuz you'd think kon would be the most hated out of the three bc of his issues with consent and the unhealthy ways he frames relationships, but instead it's BART who people hate the most! bart's being infantalized and discounted and used at a third-man-ship-prop, while tim's being rewarded for being an emotionally strugglesome white man who just came out of the closet, and it's not nearly as bad as how bart's getting his ass beat in the fandumb, but poor tim can't even date his high school homie in peace without someone crying about how he 'deserved' kon instead.

to think that the character with that many issues would be the MOST woobified character in the yj cast is insane, bc what are you even woobifying? his depersonalization? his lack of boundaries with women? his inability to read a room? the fact that nobody loves nor cares about him enough to protect him from the horrors of the world? the fact that he was a stellar example of a CSA survivor who didn't even KNOW he was a victim of CSA, and thus wasn't really able to understand the ramifications of his inappropriate behavior until years later when he forced himself into a masculine fold so he didn't fall into the trap of being like 'the old him' again?

kon's story was a story of self-hatred come to life in the most fantastical ways. he thinks it's ok to publicly date a grown woman other people are judging for dating a dumbass minor. he didn't know what a mother's love was, and had to witness it first hand with nanaue's mother. he thinks an emotionally unavailable and distant clone handler is his dad bc he doesn't KNOW anyone else who can fit into that mold. he thinks roxy's his sister but still has no problem sexualizing her in his head bc he thinks it's ok to find your older sister hot.

kon was the DEFINITION of the kids are not alright, nope, not at all, hell to the fuck no. geoff was the single biggest driver in stripping all the nuance from his character post-graduation day, but he not even here no more... what's the excuse in continuing to strip away at what makes kon, kon? i know dc's afraid to admit lois and clark looked the other way when a teenaged clone was dating an adult woman, but you woulda thought he woulda been a turnoff to the fandumb as well. he aint tho, so he suffers for it accordingly.

i can only hope karl kesel lands another contract after these new movies flop, so we can finally get a REAL follow-up to the 1994 solo. you could never make me hate that man's insane writing. justice for 1994 kon. if dc still had good writers, we coulda had a multi-year healing arc exposing how horrifying superheroing really is for people, and why clones deserve something to the equivalent of human rights. instead, he's doin fuckall and kissin m'gann. no shade to m'gann, she absolutely deserves more than the current caricature.

[starrylayle]

coming on here to quickly rant abt remadora. Okk yess I know ‘another wolfstar shipper shitting on remadora’ here me out okay!!! Just for a sec!! I read the Harry Potter books for the first time back in 2017 and remadora was my shit. Remus was my second favourite male character and tonks was my second fave female character. (Harry and cho were my first faves — yes I self inserted into Harry and had the biggest crush on cho — yes I cried when they broke up — shut up we all had our embarrassing phases!!)

Anyways back to remadora, I just thought they were so cute together, even tho it felt a little random. But one thing that I remember that really pissed me off was the ship name. I never understood why it was ‘remadora’ and not ‘ronks’. Tonks hated being called Dora!! I remember ranting abt this on my Wattpad acc (yes I know SHHHH) when I was reviewing all the Hp ships.

I don’t ship it anymore (obviously lol) and looking back, I think my issue with the ship name is lowkey symbolic for my key problem with remadora — it basically removes everything that made her interesting in the first place and reduced her to just Another Woman Character in the series. When she got with Remus, she became more mellow, more feminine, more complacent — which are fine traits btw — but that’s not tonks!! Now as I’m older, and re-reading the series, I see a lot of subtext for a gender non-conforming and possibly genderqueer person forced into a heterosexual relationship simply becoz jo didn’t want ppl thinking Remus was gay and coz she had this weird thing abt all ‘good’ women being mothers.

Which brings me to tonk’s pregnancy — I wouldn’t mind a storyline for tonks having a child — I just hate how jkr had to fit it into this whole nuclear family model and get her and Remus to get married. I feel like a more compelling, or at least consistent characterisation would have tonks having a one night stand with Remus after they were both mourning their cousin/uncle/lover’s death. Shit happens sometimes. And it would be interesting to see Tonks and Remus grapple with this and what it means for their child.

Another head cannon I saw on tik tok was that Tonks had a threesome with Fleur and Bill and since polyamory wasn’t socially acceptable she asked Remus to be the stand in legal father — and ofc Remus would say yes coz he’s Remus!! This hc sounded wild to me at first but they all gave me queer vibes and it just makes me happy so now this is the headcanon I stick with lol.

Anyways not every woman has to have a husband and 2-3 kids to be a good person jkr!! Families are complex! Women are complex! And Tonks deserves better imo.

P.s. if you ship remadora that’s completely okay!! This is just my opinion!! I’ve seen remadora shippers who don’t water down tonk’s character/subtextual queerness — I just hate how jkr depicted the ship in canon.

[autisticlancemcclain]

fic rec friday 37

hello and welcome to fic rec friday! where, on friday, i rec five of my favourite fics.

1. Fade to Black by @yokohogawa

Things between Keith and Lance are changing but Keith is restless, especially with Shiro still weak, and ends up taking a bad decision: he leaves Lance alone in the Castle with a Lion he cannot pilot. Unable to form Voltron without the newly appointed Red Paladin, the four Paladins left struggle against the sudden attack of a Galra ship and later on take damage from the explosion of a star in close proximity. Lance, on the other end, is left to defend the Castle by himself and has little time to succeed: without energy, the Lions have only 6 hours of breathable air. Beyond that point, his friends will be dead.

okay yes technically this series is unfinished. HOWEVER the first two works ARE finished, and they are amazing showstopping incredible etc. tbh im not much of a black paladin lance fan, i genuinely think solo leadership is not what he is suited for, but this fic made me way more open to it. the way he handled severe crises was as fear stricken as it was awe inspiring highly recommend

2. once again i am a child by @lilaclavenders

“You’re not a spare tyre,” Adam interjects.  “I know that,” Lance says, too unsure to sound completely defensive.   “That almost sounded like a question.” “No... it didn’t,” Lance says.

Lance and Adam talk.

i have always been a fan of lance and adam even tho its the most evidence lacking fanon thing in this fandom. its truly just so interesting. and to have lance as a young cadet getting slammed so badly just in so many different directions being given at least one grownup in his corner...its a good read.

3. Lance the language man by @irish-vampire-blog

Lance didn't really try to learn a language. He just, kind of, picks up the basics and then works from there. Its usually unintentional. Ish.

He isn't stupid though. He isn't an idiot. He just isn't the same kind of smart as his friends are.

this kind of smart for lance is so REAL bc no he cannot do like quantum physics or whatever probably but the way he seems to have a pretty innate ability to successfully do many things that he tries. he just can u know?? thats the autism with the gay audacity i would imagine but i love seeing fics like this

4. my boyfriend's back (and you're gonna get in trouble) by teacupfulofbrains

hey la, hey la, my boyfriend's back

Keith Kogane has never heard of Vine. Lance McClain takes personal offense to this, and makes it his personal mission to teach his boyfriend to meme. Keith is confused, mostly.

(OR: several instances of Keith not getting the meme™ and two times he did)

I LOVE THIS FIC SO BAD I CANT BELIEVE I HAVENT RECCED IT BEFORE. yes i am a cringe zillenial who still finds vine funny and quotes it on the internet but truly idc idc. this fic is funny. this fic is cute. established klance my love and light. also keith comparing lances eyes to the star of bombay is some of the gayest shit ever and also the only time i will entertain blue eyed lance

5. The Most Dangerous Thing is to Love by running_downn

Last time something like this happened to Lance, Keith wasn’t there. He’d thought he would have been able to do something if he had been there, or at least if he was, the guilt wouldn’t be so heavy on his chest. But this time he was there. He was right fucking there and he decided that it was infinitly worse.

~

Basically there's a new threat after the Galra and it almost kills Lance. Desperate making out ensues, but it's okay to recognize when it's not the right time for it. Keith cries a lot cause he's older and grizzled and therefore not as emotionally stunted.

green sock reality? team still out fighting as adults and lance isn’t a fucking farmer while the rest of the team isn’t? keith’s abandonment issues treated with respect and dignity and also the acknowledgement that he’s older and therefore mature enough to handle those issues in a way that doesn’t risk a relationship that is important to him? lance understanding all this and using the supportive nature he is known for??? yes yes yes. stellar fic that should have way more hits than it does

that’s it for today!! i’ll see y’all back next friday for the next fic rec post!!!

[catgirl-catboy]

When exactly were cykesquil hinted? I mean actual lines, because I played DD and I never got that vibe from them.

(Not judging just curious.)

1.) They directly foil Wrightworth.

Capcom, after AA1 basically said "hmm, people thought Phoenix and Edgeworth are kinda gay due to Phoenix becoming an attorney, LETS MAKE THEM GAYER", and then later gave Athena the same motivation.

2.) Less evidence, but a commentary on AA in general

But Ace Attorney has a trend of older man/younger woman ships, with Turnabout Big Top being the most notable example. A lot of the time, it isn't framed as creepy either, since Gumshoe is crushing on a woman 10 years his junior, who he used to work with.

3.) Official Art

Like, sure. It could be platonic, but I don't see any Mia + Maya or Maya + Pearl art like that, and I'd certainly question the artists intent if I did. They're certianly marketing it in a way that appeals to shippers.

They also marketed a whole DLC case around Athena and Simon's relationship, which isn't necessarily romantic, but considering that the other two DLCs are "Phoenix's first case back!" and "Phoenix and Edgeworth at a wedding, the case" it paints a picture.

You could argue its a prosecutor + defense thing, but considering I see a lot more Ryuunosuke + Kazuma than Ryuunosuke + Van Zieks, that pattern doesn't hold up.

4.) Sexual Innuendo

Sexual Jokes are an ace attorney staple, and Cykesquill is not immune. Considering this is an official translation, Ace Attorney is at least okay with the idea of these two hooking up.

I wouldn't go so far as to call them canon, but the marketing team knows about the ship and plays into it.

[sharp-silver4795]

Liu Woods Headcannons

The people have spoken! On a poll that I made, I asked if yall wanted me to post my own stuff and…. Oh god- I set it for a week cuz I thought no one would see it- 40 FUCKING PEOPLE RESPONDED-

So, I hear you! I’m gonna start with just random head cannons cuz… yeah…

TW!!!

Suicide, Murder (duh), abusive families, definitely not the Liu most ppl know.

I will put a warning before each group of bullets.

Least Sensitive >> Mildly Sensitive >> Most Sensitive

The first two aren’t head cannons-

I pronounce it like “Lee-oh” (Leo). I made a post about it earlier. However, I’ve said it like “Loo” for a long time- I’m tryna break that habit

He is my favorite. I remember seeing a post that was judging ppl based on their fav creepypasta…. No I won’t shut up about him.

HEAD CANNON TIME

General

He’s Chinese. Jeff is his half brother on their mom’s end. There is no fucking way an American kid would have a Chinese name.

So, Liu moved from China when he was 5 and his mom married Peter. Jeff was born when he was 7.

When Liu was young he didn’t have many friends cuz his English sucked and his little brother wasn’t even a year old.

He likes brownies and cinnamon rolls like their made of gold

Man can cook 🧑‍🍳 🤌

Has a bunch of plants that he forgets exist and cries when they die

Boy is tough. A lot of ppl see him as a teeny bean, hell nah!

Wears combat boots, skinny jeans, and sweaters consistently.

The scarf is to cover scars.

He’s about 6’5 (nearly 200cm).

Murder, Gore, Blood

Mainly uses a crowbar to beat his victims to death.

Remember how I said he wears combat boots? Well those things have heels and he tends to “stun” kill people by jumping up and stomping down on the side of the person’s head. 240lbs in a surface area the size of a US quarter is definitely gonna break your skull.

In the mansion his job doesn’t really revolve around murder as much as it’s about torture. He’s fucking good at it too.

Sexuality, Gender, and Such

He’s gay. You can’t change my mind.

I see him as being Agender and not caring about the pronouns you use for him. (Note: I usually switch up the pronouns but since this is the first HC post I’m making for them, I wanted this to be said first)

Married to EJ. If you don’t like the ship, I’m sorry!

⚠️ SA, CSA, Abuse, Suicide, SH, Grooming ⚠️

DID usually forms before 9yo and I can’t believe him getting DID at 19.

So, he hung himself when he was 19. This is what set Jeff off, because he was the one who found Liu’s body.

So, Keith is about 11 years older than Liu, and, when he was looking for friends, Keith took advantage of them. This lead to Liu basically being groomed until he was 12. I HC that Randy had a lil “crush” on Jeff and Keith kept Liu “out of the way” by consistently r—ping him.

Things at home weren’t great for him either. Peter was under the impression that his mom was a virgin with no kids (incell vibes), and when he found out Liu existed Peter decided to take it out on him. He would be locked in a dark closet of the basement for days on end. If he “misbehaved” too much, Peter would put him in the clothes dryer (also in the basement) for however long he deemed necessary.

Eventually Liu couldn’t take it and he hung himself.

Liu’s Alters and System

⚠️ similar themes from before, drugs/alcohol abuse, religious trauma ⚠️

Hannah: gatekeeper, what Liu “would have been” like if nothing happened.

Jinx: Sexual protector, the response to Keith’s abuse

Sully: Physical protector, response to Peter’s abuse

Jessie: Mental persecutor, encouraged Liu to kill himself.

Leviathan: Trauma holder, response to constant guilt from religious trauma

Vex: persecutor, response to alcohol and drug addiction.

Nigh: Trauma holder, response to all those lonely years

So, about Jeff…

Liu has zero issues with Jeff.

Jeff didn’t kill him, he had to make his way back to life (I will post more abt this another day).

Jeff mispronounced his name, but Liu was too nervous to correct him (bc trauma)

He is about 6yrs older than Jeff.

I probably have other HCs that i forgot, but anyway- that’s all the energy I have rn….

[thaliajoy-blog]

Blue Eye Samurai ships - my opinions 😗

Taigen×Akemi : they're done for but I have a soft spot for them together, they had really sweet interaction and despite being a wretched bastard in the first episode for the most part, Taigen had such a sweet interaction with Akemi. They really were similar. He seemed to also mind her boundaries (the time she wanted to have sex with him - to manipulate him 😋 - he asked if she was sure about it 🥲).

Taigen×Mizu : most likely to happen for and to be endgame let's be real (if Mizu has an endgame relationship at least). A nice ennemies to friends to lovers with some bumps along the road ship. Loved Taigen's surprise boner lol. Only thing that really doesn't quite do it is that it's likely gonna be het. I'd like it to be gay.

Mizu×Akemi : unabashedly hot lol I like it in every universe. Sad that for now i feel it's unlikely to canonically happen (I love this show but I feel relationship-wise it won't get too crazy - I'd pleasantly surprised if it did though).

Akemi×her husband (I didn't check his name lol) : other than his speech impairment which is interesting he's rather bland (even design wise frankly). I don't know what to expect of him I'll just feel vaguely sorry for him if Akemi does cheat on him with like, Mizu (hopefully). Maybe he'll be dead though.

Fowler×Heiji : Hot. Sold on it. Toxic. Argumentative.

Mizu×Madame Kaji : I had a revelation when the guy asked "do you like older women" when Mizu asked to speak to Madame Kaji. YES.

(I don't care for Mizu/Mikio anymore they could have been everything but he BETRAYED her)

Are there any ships with Ringo lol ? He's canonically seen Mizu naked lol.