#‘trump will be worse!�� WHO IN PALESTINE WILL LIVE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IF YOU CANT MAKE A THORNLESS THREAT TO A MAN WHO IS ‘BETTER’
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prozach27 · 8 months ago
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As someone who has had posts supporting Kamala Harris in the 2024 election receive an influx of attention, I think it’s worth mentioning that this leads to a number of accounts 1) sending me copy and pasted, word for word indictments of her not letting Palestinians speak at the DNC, and 2) reblogging the post to state that people who support democrats are racist because democrats “support genocide” - despite my post arguing that democrats shouldn’t be trusted to have our best interest in mind and that they’re complicit in genocide but more likely to capitulate to demands than a Trump administration. Interestingly, those who reblog to talk about how white democrats supporting Kamala are racist also have never offered a single alternate option, have no candidates they’re recommending, and offer no ways to support Palestine during their critique.
I am BEGGING you all to recognize election interference when it is this blatant. Do you know who is most likely to become concerned about voting based on this messaging? White liberals in their teens and 20s who make up a significant portion of the Democratic voting population. Do you know who falls victim to people concerned about how “Harris won’t let Palestinians speak” at the DNC? Liberals who care about Palestine, which is DEMONSTRABLY the largest portion of the voting base. We will never have a viable candidate for president who presses for everything we want against Israel since they’re one of our closest allies for decades. Regardless, voting for president isn’t about voting for who’s the best person - it’s about voting for the enemy you want in office to fight against in meeting your demands. You have Trump, who has told Israel to finish the job, and Harris, who has repeatedly discussed ceasefires and resolutions. If your politics see those two positions as no different, tell that to the Palestinian lives who will be saved in a ceasefire brokered by the US.
Tumblr is once again home to election interference, and I am asking you to please recognize the signs that accounts are preying upon potential Democratic voters to get Trump in office and make things exponentially worse. Question why someone is railing against Harris while offering no alternative. Ask yourself, “who is it this person is telling me to support in the election, how viable is their preferred candidate to win, and why do they think they’re better?” If a post tearing down Harris can’t meet these basic requirements, assume it’s election interference and report it. Better yet, reblog this post and tag blogs who continually fail to meet these requirements so people can block them. We need to be aware that this is happening. It’s time to combat it as a community.
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lavaringx · 3 months ago
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My thoughts on Palestine
I haven't made a post about Palestine yet on Tumblr, but I feel I need to speak up on all my social media because things can't go on like this anymore. Israel's goal, or at least the goal of the governing far-right, is to deport all Palestinians to Jordan. That's why they don't see West Bank settlement expansion as a demographic threat to their country. If you've ever seen any memes by pro-Israel people that say "Jordan is Palestine," that's what they mean. Currently Palestinians live in segregated West Bank islands with no rights in Israel and no state of their own. Yes, I'm aware that there are Palestinian citizens of Israel, but there are also 3 million West Bank Palestinians and 2 million Gazans who are not. Israel cannot annex the West Bank unless it either a). Gives up its Jewish majority, b). maintains the current system of segregation with Palestinians as second class citizens or c). Orders a mass expulsion of Palestinians, which is the goal.
The only solution to this that doesn't involve the destruction of Israel is the two-state solution, which I support, but the U.S. government does not. With the exception of a few brave souls on the left end of the democratic party, most U.S. politicians are perfectly content to allow the status quo to continue, with some Republicans even openly calling for Israel to just annex the West Bank, destroy the Al-Aqsa mosque and build the third temple, Palestinians be damned. I haven't forgotten how Biden disgustingly vetoed a U.N. resolution that would have granted the Palestinians full U.N. membership, and we all know that Trump is going to be even worse. The U.S. wants a one-state Israel, regardless of what the politicians lie through their teeth.
I understand the Israeli position, I really do. You are afraid that, if given the chance, Palestinians will launch another, even bigger October 7th against your people. But you must understand that Palestinians have human rights too, and those human rights are currently being violated by Israel. I have no love for Hamas or Hezbollah. They are backed by Iran's tyrannical theocracy, which, because I am consistent in my belief in human rights, I too oppose. But Palestinian human rights are routinely violated on the dime of the U.S. taxpayer, and that's the difference. The Palestinian situation represents a moral failure on the part of the West, much like the Vietnam War and the Iraq War, that makes it hard for the rest of the world to take us seriously when we (rightfully) call out the human rights abuses of Iran, Russia or North Korea.
Things look pretty bleak right now. The only way to make Israel accept a two-state solution is to deny them aid unless they end West Bank settlement expansion, but neither party has the moral fiber necessary to make such an ultimatum. Even if we get lucky and a progressive is elected President at some point, a future Republican or Centrist Democrat could undo it four years later. It is entirely possible that under Trump, the Israeli far-right plan to expel the Palestinians in the West Bank will come to fruition, snuffing out the Palestinian cause forever. But somebody has to take a stand. Perhaps it's the Irish blood in me, but I can't just sit by and watch my country commit a gross injustice. My conscience wouldn't be able to take it if I remained silent. If the worst comes to pass, at least I tried.
Edit: I want to make it crystal clear that I do not support Hamas. The October 7th massacre was evil and I condemn it in the strongest possible terms. The I'm a two-state solution believer through and through. Even many Palestinians in Gaza are rising up against Hamas. I made this post because I am frustrated with people saying that all the Palestinians should be deported to Jordan every time I ask what the endgame is for the West Bank. Deporting all Palestinians to Jordan would destabilize Jordan's Hashemite monarchy and turn Jordan into Iran 2.0.- a former pro-western absolute monarchy replaced by a terror state.
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mxwhore · 7 months ago
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im going to be a bitch for a second but as a latinoamerican person whose voice is naturally being choked out by the USAelection, i think i deserve it.
Ive been seeing a lot of posts calling to not vote for Kamala because she didnt do jack for Palestine. I also resent her for not doing jack for Palestine, but also?
Its the USA. The USA ruins countries for its own gain and then lie to you about it. They ruined mine for 3 decades and we are still figuring shit out. Im not telling you this to make you feel bad for being usamerican. Im know you didnt choose this. Im trying to make you understand that a different president will not change the nature of usamerican imperialism.
Vote for the person who will not charge you money to check the weather. Also Trump will make life so much worse for everyone INCLUDING US PEOPLE THAT DO NOT LIVE IN THE USA. BOLSONARO AND KAST CAME FROM FUCKING TRUMP.
Keep donating to Palestinian fundraisers, that does more than telling people not to vote. And keep surviving.
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aardappel-van-mijn-oog · 9 months ago
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Kamala is doing everything she can lads.
Try and grasp the situation here: she is the presumptive nominee of a party that is comprised of both staunch Israëli opponents and hard line Israëli supporters. She also is going up against a party of exclusively the latter, and wants to try and convince as many people deciding between the Democrats and Republicans to vote for her in November. She cannot afford to lose because if she does, America will turn into a fascist theocracy for the foreseeable future, and then we will all be fucked because America is the most influential country upon global politics.
So Kamala Harris CANNOT AFFORD to say any more than she is saying about the war in Palestine right now, because if she does, she risks losing the support of a large and potentially election-deciding group of swing voters.
I am a supporter of a free and prosperous Palestine. I believe that Israël has no right to exist as a country, and that it is an apartheid state. But I also have some amount of common sense, and I see that there has to be a compromise here. As, it seems, does Kamala Harris. Watch the video above to see what I mean.
I am not a resident of the United States. I live in the Netherlands, where in the last election, the party with the most votes was the party who wants to ban the Qur’ān and close all mosques, advocates for increased and more violent policing, wants to retract the official apologies made for the Netherlands’ involvement in the Slave Trade, and ban puberty blockers. That’s not because most people want to do those things. It’s because people didn’t fucking vote. Well there are more reasons than that but that’s one of the main ones.
So, Americans. From your friends over in Europe. We like you. We don’t want you to live under a fascist theocracy. However, we don’t have the power to stop that. Only you do, and you can do it by putting aside your grievances and seeing the big picture here. In other words,
VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS.
I’m not gonna go into all the rest of her policies, but coming from a gay genderqueer socialist I think she’s pretty solid. Obviously she and I don’t agree on everything, but that’s because we’re unique individuals with different personalities, upbringings and backgrounds. Yknow, like how normal society is? I’ve been hearing so much discourse on this kut website and most of it boils down to “she’s not a carbon copy of me so I won’t vote for her”.
Guys, what the fuck happened to the tolerant left? What happened to the people who welcomed different ideas and beliefs? Are they in the room with us now??? Grow up. Go to your silly little American voting website and register to vote. I don’t know which website it is but someone can link it in a reblog or something idk.
And for my European friends. I know we all dislike how much influence American politics has on our lives. I fucking hate it. But we live in a globalised world, for better or worse, so try as best you can to make as many Americans that you know and love vote for Kamala Harris - or whoever it ends up being - come November. That’s the most we can do to ensure the right wing parties of our own countries don’t see Trump and follow in their footsteps. It’s happening in the Netherlands and we are already seeing the consequences over here. I’d talk about them but this post is too long.
TLDR: OI AMERICANS, VOTE BLUE
(pwease :3)
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traegorn · 6 months ago
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there’s this horrible fucking sense of abandonment I see from leftists who live in purple or blue states whose lives didn’t change much at all during Trump’s first term and who expect that they’ll be protected similarly from a second. like I live in a state where we’ve had right-wing control for decades, for almost a century, and the federal government is the only thing protecting my very flimsy human rights and moving the needle away from extremism, and we have huge immigrant populations who will be vulnerable under Trump, and the public health situation will get worse, and that’s on top of his stance on Palestine. but because people live in safe little cultural bubbles where nobody actually thinks or believes the way Trump and Vance do they’re willing to abandon us. our votes aren’t going to flip our state blue this election, and the people who MIGHT flip blue are waffling because they care more about feeling proud of themselves than about our safety. what the fuck.
They're in a bubble and just have no contact with those of us in the real world.
The one thing I hope puts a light at the end of the tunnel is that there was a time when we thought Georgia would never become a swing state and would stay firmly red.
Your vote matters and does make a difference. Maybe it won't shift today, but in the long term you matter. Keep fighting, and keep going.
We're in this together.
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imperiuswrecked · 1 year ago
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Every single person who is trying to shame people into voting for Genocide Joe's re-election because "Trump is worse and Biden is less worse" is disgusting.
As a person who voted Democrat since I could vote, as a person who fought with family or acquaintances to make them see how bad Trump is, the level of shame and guilt that I've been carrying for weeks over the Genocide in Palestine, over every single death that I see on my screen, over every story I read about those brave suffering people, has eaten me alive. To know that my vote put a monster in power.
"We can't live through Trump again". Too bad. Maybe instead of spending all your energy shaming the people, especially the Palestinian-Americans, into voting for the man who is directly responsible, directly to blame, for ongoing aid to fund and support the deaths of thousands of men, women, and children, maybe you should do the work to put a better candidate in office, maybe you should say "hey both these people are horrible, we should pick someone better" and then work towards that instead of saying "anyone who doesn't vote for Biden over the Palestinian Genocide is worse than the people who vote for Trump". I know you all don't care about the lives of people half a world away but I do.
I will never again in my life vote for a single person who supports the atrocities that I've witnessed.
I will not compromise my morals for your comfort.
Fuck you.
For anyone else who cares about making a difference follow and support Project Olive Grove, they are actively working to ensure that this won't ever happen again by having politicians who advocate for the people and not for genocide.
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glareraw · 9 months ago
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Accelerationists are pathetic
Accelerationism is a range of revolutionary and reactionary ideas in left-wing and right-wing ideologies that call for the drastic intensification of capitalist growth, technological change, infrastructure sabotage and other processes of social change to destabilize existing systems and create radical social transformations, otherwise referred to as "acceleration". “Accelerationism.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 9 Aug. 2024. Link
Let's be so fucking for real.
We are in a hopeful political landscape right now. Trump looks more and more like he will lose, and Kamala Harris alongside her VP pick Tim Walz are winning over the hearts of Americans, and increasingly beating Trump in the polls as he rambles on about how Kamala changed her race or something. And we are learning how to parse the alarmist claims of news media, and deny them ad revenue from scaring us.
But there is a thorn in side of the Democratic Party. A small group of very loud accelerationists who claim to be leftist online act like Kamala is the antichrist. Their two main claims are that she imprisoned over 1,500 people for smoking weed during her time as a prosecutor, and they still act like she fully supports the genocide in Palestine, despite the first claim being a lie told by Tulsi Gabbard in the 2020 presidential race, and the second claim a case of "I pretend I do not see it" in terms of the truth.* (see footnote) They seem to forget that a Trump presidency would be FAR worse for Palestinians.
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But let's be real. The originators of this argument are cishet white people who live in major cities of coastal blue states and whose parents pay their rent. They have a feeling of emptiness in their life because they have everything given to them, so they argue with LGBTQ+ people and POC online instead of making an actual difference in the real world. They sit behind their screens and convince unsuspecting netizens of their delusions that we could have a viable 3rd party candidate come out of nowhere in less than 3 months, and completely ignore the fact that a candidate with their ideology would absolutely tank in an election. They don't care that the American people are not ready for the nation they want to make.
One of the talking main strategies these accelerationists are trying is to get people to abstain from voting --if they don't get their third party candidate. Their goal is to get less votes for Kamala to make Donald Trump win so the world will go to shit and they can remake society from the ashes how THEY want.
They think that their lives are sheltered from the blatant danger of the republican platform, to hell with the women and LGBTQ+ and POC of the red states! They are totally fine with sacrificing the safety of women and minorities in service of their unrealistic headcanon. They simply do not, or refuse to understand the severity of the situation we find ourselves in. If Trump wins 2024, there's a pretty strong chance there won't be an election --at least a real one-- in 2028 or ever again.
And if they think they will actually be able to start a revolution against the federal government? If they can get past the SWAT team arrests at their peaceful protests and CIA assassinations of their movement's leaders, they will have the honor of battle with the most powerful and overfunded military on Earth. Good luck with that! But these people would be lucky to even have leadership to begin with, because none of them actually have a viable plan or real knowledge of how to make their maladaptive daydreams real and govern their dream society.
If you read all of this and look at the facts and still believe Kamala Harris is a horrible person and you don't WANT to vote for her, then fine. I don't feel the need to argue with you further. But you NEED to vote. Change will have to be made gradually, it can't happen all at once this time. As I said, the country isn't ready for that. But if enough leftists don't vote, and Trump actually wins, it will set us back decades, if not a century or more. The government will not collapse, it will just become stronger under fascist rule. They will not get the chance to make the change they want.
I don't think the ideology of accelerationism poses a huge threat in this election. The overwhelming amount of support for the Harris Walz campaign, combined with the long-expected downward spiral of Donald Trump makes it more and more likely that we will see Kamala in the White House. And the media fear mongering about insubordination from the electorates --and Kamala's defeat in the Trump-appointed federal courts after the election-- is largely overblown. They forget how we won in 2020. AFTER Trump was ousted.
But as I said, overall, I don't think accelerationists will be successful in causing a Trump victory. They just really piss me off.
*She supports a ceasefire and the two-state solution, but can't make that happen just yet as she is just the VP but that's a whole can of worms and a conversation for another time. Just know I personally support a ceasefire and understand that what is happening in Palestine IS a genocide.
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fairuzfan · 1 year ago
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Genuinely curious, because I've seen some people say that one should vote biden because if you vote for trump or desantis their stance on the ongoing genocide and other matters would actually be worse than what we're contending with, and I have no true frame of reference: do you think that's actually true or a likely possibility?
I'm of the opinion that it really doesn't matter who we vote for anyways, the outcomes will still be the same. Biden is enabling 4 different genocides/ethnic cleansing (Palestine, Congo, Armenia, Sudan) and honestly, I don't see how it can get any worse.
They often make the argument that things will happen *here* that is dangerous but speaking as someone who has lived in a very Red state my entire life, it has never been safe or welcoming for me to begin with, along with others who have similar identities to me. Not to mention that bad things have already happened here under Biden, with the Abortion ban, book bans, and ban on critical race theory being taught in schools.
Trump is not great, like I don't want him to win either. He was the person who moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem and it was seen as a political slap to the face to Palestinians (click). Don't get me wrong they're both piles of shit. But I refuse to elect people into office that let such flagrantly terrible things happen in the world. These people have no oversight in their actions, are free to do what they want, and no manner of "democratic" intervention will stop them from doing the things they want, especially when they're afraid of losing funding for going against major lobbying organizations like CUFI and AIPAC.
This isn't the first time Biden ignored Palestinians in this term. Remember in 2021 with the settlements in Shiekh Jarrah? He didn't say a word condemning Israel for their forced displacement and their bombardment of Gaza (click). Sure the Abraham Accords sucked and that was brokered by Trump, but Biden could have undone that. He didn't. He just re-approved aid to Palestinians (which, who cares when they're under occupation? No amount of aid will help them attain liberation). Palestinians don't want aid — they want America to stop funding the Zionist Entity.
Everyone in Palestine already knows that the Israel's biggest supporter, America, is also their biggest funder. If they just stopped funding, everything would be cut in half. There is no way the Zionist entity would be able to sustain itself. Even now, their economy is failing because they relied on Palestinians for much of their cheap labor. They cannot support themselves without USAmerica's direct intervention.
I am of the opinion that we should organize to change the way our government operates or else things like these will keep happening. It does not help anyone but the ultrarich and the people in power. Things like Cop City and the genocide in Congo and Sudan and Armenia only happen because the US has a vested monetary interest in oppressing them. This will not change between presidents. Biden will just be quieter about it.
I don't know how to organize stuff like this, or where to go to organize, but if we keep playing in the system they laid out where they always win, then there's no way anything can change.
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gryficowa · 9 months ago
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Boycott!
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If the "Vote Blue" people piss me off, they simply have no humility (Even if people were recently murdered with weapons provided by Blue), they will still write about voting for the Zionist Harris, because the classic argument "Because Trump is worse," and come on, liberals, and shove Trump and Harris up your ass
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The truth is that you don't care about the Palestinians, and you use them as a reason to scare Trump (Because apparently only if Trump supplied weapons like your Zionist Harris and Biden do from the Blue Smurfs, you would finally care about genocide, you fucking liberal bastards)
If you cared about Palestine, you'd go after Harris and the blue party, but you don't fucking do that, you masturbate to them like they're the fucking messiah
But it's better to call everyone stupid (Classically "Idiots"), Russian trolls or scare them with Trump, right, stupid liberals?
Just stop lying that you care about Gaza when all you do is use Palestinians as an election campaign, shame on you, you don't care about Palestinian lives, when you don't criticize or choose blue people, you are no different from Trump fans, in fact you are worse, because you lie about your intentions and the fact that many believe you is disgusting
That's why everyone despises you, because you are fake bitches who feed their fragile egos
Yes, I will be unkind to liberals because they don't care about Palestine and they use it to get people to vote, there are blue terrorists, because "Trump is worse"
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Besides, many liberals believe in Zionist propaganda about Hamas, so it proves even more that they don't care about Palestine and the only thing they use it for is to emotionally blackmail people (Yes, disgusting people, in short)
Now that I have your attention:
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sappho114 · 9 months ago
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Genuinely gobsmacked that I saw someone I follow on here call not voting, or at least putting pressure on the democratic party, "single issue voting" and implied it was a lesser of evils and harm reduction.
I know some people are callous and ignorant and nasty but how can you think you're a good person if you ignore all of the everything else. Such a white middle-class mindset if all you see is a single issue, never mind being completely ignorant of electoralism at all. YOU are the single issue voter, bitch. YOU are the unreasonable little fuck.
Palestine deserves our advocacy because American money, American politics, and American munitions are directly responsible for all of it. It is not only condoned but encouraged daily by the same people these cunts want us to vote for. If you disagree with that, then you disagree with that. Just say it - don't be a coward and pretend like you care about their lives. Just fucking say it with your chest: its all a performative game to you. You only care so long as it doesn't potentially impact you.
Because let's face the facts, these people are also the same sorts who have no time, advocacy, or attention to any of the numerous imperial terrors that the democrats - or k harris specifically - have sown in only the past four years. All of which the current nominees had their hands in. Is it single issue voting if I don't want someone to be president when they've been ghoulishly and comically evil in regards to border policies, migrant concentration camps, reproductive rights malaise, LGBT+ rights, and for not enabling or encouraging but actively creating the new pandemic of militarized policing by using the National Guard to abuse, kill, and maim citizens that you don't agree with? These seem like more than one issue, all of which are perhaps adequate reasons to utilize one's electoral right and responsibility (as you see it) to vote for a candidate who has their interests or the country's interests in mind.
Like, sure, you can sit there and be an absolute dumbfuck and write off Palestine because you are a bad person but the unfortunate truth here is that by just voting for the people who make things worse - red or blue, same team different colors! - you're just another idiot who is choosing to crouch behind the curtain like every other ghoulish system-fellating moron who just doesn't have the guts to be uncomfortable for the five fucking minutes it takes to pressure Democrats into doing something, anything, other than rapidly whirlpooling into fascism.
If you hold those opinions you are simply uneducated politically, academically in history, socially, and you are letting your comfort mean more to you than actual people's lives - yourself included, because you're SO willing to let a million canaries die as long as you can go about your day without being challenged or feel complicated.
Every single civil rights advocate who was assassinated by the US government has quotes about how you people do this, too. Like, you are aware that you're that shade of person right? The white moderate, the quasi-liberal, the fucker who won't even acknowledge the knife is there. And don't think people didn't see you play pretend and immediate discard the BLM movement just as quickly as it went out of vogue because you were "tired" from COVID, not because you actually cared about black people.
Where was your advocacy and attention during Trump's first presidency? Why did it stop when the blue team switched into his chair and made so many things worse? Because that's your team?
All you need to do is shut the fuck up, to stop telling people to not feel for others, advocate for others, or adhere to their own moral codes. Nobody needs to know that you're a big coward pissbaby who is turning into the next ghoulish sycophant like Pete Bootychug and his ilk, gleefully wiping your brow of any and all social responsibility the moment you decide that voting for the Minnesotan police state guy and the woman who loves genocide and hates migrants get in office.
You can, and should, just fucking shut up if you want to vote so badly for them and do nothing else.
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As we get closer to election day, I'm going to need people to be normal about Palestinians complaining about Kamala Harris.
Don't reply to their posts with "But Trump would be worse!" (They also hate him, criticizing Harris is not an endorsement of Trump [And if they don't name a candidate they want you to vote for it's not an endorsement of anyone]. They're fully aware of how bad Trump is, the thing is that with the, you know, genocide going on they're already going through hell now under someone who's not Trump.)
Don't reply to their posts talking about how hard you hope their lives will be under Trump because they're a minority (I've seen people do this, seriously what is wrong with you? First that's not how you act when you want to convince people. Second many of them are already suffering under the Biden administration. Third, you're just being bigoted when you do that "You're a minority who doesn't agree with me so I hope [Terrible thing] happens to you if my politician doesn't win" is just showing that you don't care about minorities unless they agree with you. You're not "warning" them or whatever you think you're doing, you'rejust being a prick. And you're showing every other member of a minority group that your opinions are worth listening to.)
Don't call them a psyop for having a negative opinion of Harris (Yes there is election interference going on. But that's more "Elon Musk is putting targeted ads on Twitter telling different voting blocks completely opposite things about the same candidate" and not "This one person told me they don't want to vote for Kamala Harris because their [Friend/Family member] died from the Biden administration's actions". Instead of harassing them and telling them that Gaza is a single issue, just let them be.)
Lastly, if Harris loses on Tuesday, we are not blaming Palestinians, got it? Even if the number abstaining or voting 3rd party would have won her the election. Nobody should be forced to vote for an administration that is actively taking part in killing their families, and nobody should be criticized for choosing another option under those circumstances. The Biden administration could've already started an arms embargo on Israel, or even just sent them less money and fewer weapons, or stopped vetoing UN resolutions, or actually used that dock they built for humanitarian aid (Like they pretended they would) instead of sending in more military forces, etc.
They could've actually done something to make Palestinians genuinely want to vote for Harris, but instead the Biden administration has thrown itself full force behind the genocide. Has Harris said better things about Palestine than Trump has? Sure, but those are all words until something actually happens (Technically the Vice President doesn't have much political power, but she is in a position to put pressure on Biden and be more vocally supportive of any policies that would actually make Israel stop. And she hasn't).
Basically, just don't harrass the people who are currently direct victims of genocide. It's incredibly simple and easy, just don't reply to or report their posts.
(Side note: Yes there are articles about some Palestinians either supporting Harris or saying anyone is better than Trump. Try to remember that Palestinians have varying opinions and if you're responding to a Palestinian who's mad at Harris by saying "But this other Palestinian isn't so you shouldn't be!" you are indeed the bad guy. Additionally it seems like in Gaza the current general opinion is "This election doesn't affect us because neither candidate will stop the genocide." That's not an endorsement of Harris, that's telling you you still need to protest after the election. And if Harris does get elected and she continues Biden's policies then you will see me shift to advocating for 3rd party candidates instead of simply telling you to not harrass people over their voting decisions. If she actually helps Palestine I would be pleasantly surprisedbut as of now I don't expect her to do anythingbut uphold the status quo [Which is really bad])
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reallystellacadente · 10 months ago
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I Really Don't Want to Die, and Why
I need to make something ENTIRELY clear: Donald Trump needs to be defeated BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
ANY. FUCKING. MEANS. NECESSARY.
The rest is below the cut because it's long and personal. The tl;dr, though is if you cannot abide me posting that you have to vote for the Democrat in this election, you should probably unfollow me. I'm not all that popular, so blocking is unnecessary but you do you.
That also includes his supporters on Capitol Hill, the incompetents on SCOTUS, and any and all of the Nationalist Christians (Nat C) fascists who support the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 and any other manifestos they have excreted into the public domain.
For me, that means I have to vote for the Democratic nominee for president in 2024. To not vote, or to waste my vote on a useless third party candidate, is to hand a vote to Trump. Go back and check the facts of 2016: Jill Stein voters handed him Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, where I live. Nonvoters who usually voted Democrat who stayed home because of the Email Lady also would have made a difference.
Fine. We fucked around and found out. Hundreds of thousands died. An insurrection happened literally in front of our eyes. And the figurehead behind it all has, to date, gotten away with everything.
Now the Beast is even worse. If Donald Trump gets elected, his policies will LITERALLY COST ME MY LIFE and that of my family. He will take away my healthcare (I am a recent cancer survivor), my pending disability (I cannot walk or stand for more than a few seconds and had to quit my job; this predates and is unrelated to my cancer), my EBT (haven't been able to work more than part-time for a while now, and I do like to eat food) and the pitiful partial Social Security we're living on while my disability is getting approved -- thanks to the GOP, a process that takes a minimum of 6-8 months. I will lose my income and my housing and everything.
I FUCKING DON'T LIKE THAT.
None of this -- ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THIS -- means I support the genocide in Palestine. I have been fighting this fight since the mid-80s and I can get the receipts if you want. I questioned why it was OK to roll tanks onto people who threw stones at them, only to get called a terrorist.
But now, when I am doing the best I can to fight the literal war here where I live, I'm called a white supremacist? Fuck you. I mean, the person sending me messages has been blocked and won't see this, but I'm getting that out into the universe nevertheless.
If you're old enough to navigate this website, you're old enough to curate your own experience here. Unfollow me if me saying "you need to vote for the Democrat" is bothersome. I will accept that it might even be triggering and that's OK, I certainly don't want to actually trigger someone's pain. But sending me threatening messages is bullshit and you know it.
I don't stan politicians and in social media spaces where my real identity is known, and I have stated this many times. Cult of personality sucks no matter who it's about. But all things considered, the Democratic platform/policies/whatever have always been closer to what I want in the place where I live. The GOP? Never in my lifetime.
It's hard for me to reconcile these things, but I know that if Trump wins, it will be even worse for Palestine. And he'll let Putin run rampant through Ukraine, too.
I'm sorry this is what it's come down to. I hope to live long enough to see something change. But we absolutely must defeat Donald Trump.
I want to live.
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monstrousgourmandizingcats · 4 months ago
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lmao like the israelis "made" biden give them weapons for more than a year 💀
I assume you're referring to this post, anon? Good point. Let me explain.
So I'm not referring to Carter's Iran policy and Biden' Israel policy in general; there are similarities, but also important differences, both because these are different sequences of events and because Carter was quite frankly a better person and possibly even a better President (yes) than Biden is. I'm referring to a specific event, the resolution of the Iran hostage crisis literally an hour into Ronald Reagan's presidency, about which there's long been a conspiracy theory that nowadays is accepted as pretty much true. It seems very very possible that something similar happened here because Netanyahu--a man who grew up in Pennsylvania of all places, openly sees himself as a Republican first and foremost and in Israeli political terms only secondarily, and is known to be racist not only against Arabs but also against groups that include people like Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, and much of his own support base--wanted his bestie Trump back so badly.
You also have Richard Nixon sabotaging talks that were being held to end the Vietnam War during the summer of 1968 so that he could run on having a "secret plan to end the war" (his words!), when LBJ couldn't do so and supposedly neither could LBJ's vice president who was running to succeed him after he dropped out of his reelection campaign, Hubert Humphrey (sound familiar?). As my friend Allen, whom I don't believe has a Tumblr, put it:
Semifinals Lyndon B. Johnson and Hubert H. Humphrey vs. Richard Nixon and Nguyen Van Thieu Joe Biden and Kamala Harris vs. Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu Final Richard Nixon and Nguyen Van Thieu vs. Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTER
(I choose Nixon and Nguyen, and the depressing part is that it isn't even a hard choice.)
While I'm on the topic, sort of, I'd also like to repudiate this notion I've seen going around for over a year now that Netanyahu isn't actually uniquely bad, it's the Israeli state and Israeli society that has consistently been just as evil as he is. That isn't true--even if Israeli society was already at the bottom of a very deep moral hole in 2009, it has kept digging since Netanyahu started consolidating power in that year--and I think it's a dangerous untruth because presenting a problem as more intractable than it actually is discourages people from solving it. You see this also with the inaccurate and offensive notion that "Jews and Arabs have been fighting for thousands of years," which encourages people to ignore the decisions taken in the first half of the twentieth century, some of them still within living memory, that made 1948-and-subsequent go the way it did. (SYKES-PICOT: A HUNDRED YEARS OF CONSEQUENCES.) Netanyahu did in fact take an already-bad situation and make it even worse, because of moral and ideological problems that are in fact unusually severe within his worldview and mindset. He should be in one of the prisons in England where they send you when you get convicted at the Hague. Some of the big Hamas guys would belong there as well if they weren't dead already, Trump belongs there based on his first time around alone (to say nothing of what he plans to do this time), and arguably Biden and some of Biden's foreign policy people also belong there. The problem is that the severity of the accusation gets stretched to bursting if you go beyond that and apply it to the whole populations of multiple countries ("countries" plural because pro-Israel people also say this sort of thing about Palestine) over the past seventy-five-odd years.
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beardedmrbean · 7 months ago
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[Huey Zoomer Anon]
“Why you don’t live in the city?” If you mean the big populated one, that would be Chicago and there a reason why it called Chiraq by the black locals
Also don’t get this idea that living in the city= expose to a cultural exchange you would never get in a small town…but at the end day leftists wokies non whites friends, most of who are 2nd gen and beyond who are culturally Americans, aren’t the end all for all sources for different cultural
My Bengali friend gave me more insight on India history, cultures, societies, and Hinduism than what the disporia fucks pushes these days
Also being a urbanite still means you can be out of touch
https://youtube.com/shorts/potiWpXoYYQ?si=VKgMSbHwBIGNRfYr
This short is at the dnc in Chicago this past summer
Chicago and Chicagoland have a decent Arab population
Including Free Palestine ones
Source: Me who see them as coworkers and when I go shopping
Soo they could get one Arab/Muslim group for consultant?
“You want to be careful dependent!” I love the environment too, but given how social dynamics is getting worse and due to my autism.
A expression of mine get misinterpreted by a sjw on a train= my entire life is ruined
Also the infantilism of criminals on the left thus lax crime laws makes more and more people avoid moving to be urban areas now
“Why you don’t live in the city?” If you mean the big populated one, that would be Chicago and there a reason why it called Chiraq by the black locals
Easier answer is that the city sucks,
Also don’t get this idea that living in the city= expose to a cultural exchange you would never get in a small town…but at the end day leftists wokies non whites friends, most of who are 2nd gen and beyond who are culturally Americans, aren’t the end all for all sources for different cultural
it's a thing similar to classism, there's significant arrogance on both sides of this one seeing our choice as the better one and such.
My Bengali friend gave me more insight on India history, cultures, societies, and Hinduism than what the disporia fucks pushes these days
Makes sense they'll have different experiences than each other, also with India we always need to remember that it's 862 countries in a raincoat so cultures are going to be wildly different from place to place, even if they're in the same state.
Also being a urbanite still means you can be out of touch
What's fun to do is call "bodegas" either mini marts or convenience stores or something else similar and watch them have a meltdown trying to explain the difference.
This short is at the dnc in Chicago this past summer Chicago and Chicagoland have a decent Arab population Including Free Palestine ones Source: Me who see them as coworkers and when I go shopping Soo they could get one Arab/Muslim group for consultant?
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I'm all for encouraging reform in Islam, but I don't see them hitting this point for a while, most of them at least. Given the one city council that all Muslim is backing Trump I'm wondering what % of that particular community is thinking maybe they shouldn't have shifted to the left after 9/11.
Soo they could get one Arab/Muslim group for consultant?
It's likely they did, just not one that would think there was anything weird about this.
A expression of mine get misinterpreted by a sjw on a train= my entire life is ruined Also the infantilism of criminals on the left thus lax crime laws makes more and more people avoid moving to be urban areas now
There's a lot of infantilization out there and most of it could be described using one word that has a "ism" "phobia" or "ist" at the end of it.
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daebelly · 2 years ago
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so like. i understand anti-voting sentiment. i get it. i think it's not all that good for effecting change, too. we agree on this and are friends. i also understand and resent that our current president has thrown in his lot with israel while israel commits genocide, and i would withhold my vote were it my choice. but here's the thing that i think a lot of people who say we should not vote for the lesser of two evils haven't factored in: their effective accelerationism will near-inevitably result in a genocide of poc and queer people if it were to succeed. trans people would probably be attacked first, with an especially immediate impact on trans women--guess what i happen to be one of? that's right! a trans woman!
the worst option is to vote for trump or whichever fascist in his place. the second worst option is to simply not vote. (and after that, it's voting third party, which is mainly bad bc it doesn't bolster our defenses against republican solidarity in their voting habits. i understand though, supporting getting a foot in the door for having more than a two-but-actually-one-party system is a very good thing to do, cant fault that).
i just think it's especially convenient for people who want to use israel's genocide of palestine as a foot in the door to spreading genocidal sentiment elsewhere that people are using sympathy for the victims of the genocide to make people in the us think it's productive and/or helpful to just not fight back against the fascists that really want us dead.
just kind of disconcerting to see people declaring that us americans shouldn't vote for the outright nazi's only real opponent while knowing if the outright nazi gets back in there's a chance a lot of us won't make it. and i'd much prefer to survive than be executed for my identity.
put simply: if a nazi gets in, more people die and there's yet less checks on the crimes that the president can commit. a notion of 'honor' in not voting for the lesser of two evils is worth less than the lives of people within the state that's voting and the lives of those that that nazi not getting in will save through preventing the galvanization of the us gov't's support of israel. put even more simply: if things get worse, they will be worse than they would be if they stayed the same. this is so bizarrely simple an equation that i do not get how some people aren't getting it. reducing harm to the minimum is the point.
for anyone confused or intentionally misreading this, a bulleted list below the cut
i am not saying that voting is the only thing you should do. you should be taking more action than just that. but you should still vote. use every weapon in your arsenal, they all perform a function.
i am speaking of rhetoric used by and towards usamericans specifically and i am not prioritizing usamerican issues over the suffering of the victims in gaza. please be respectful and do not try to cast me as seeking to be the victim in a situation that does not really affect my life because i am not.
on that, i think it's unreasonable to expect there to be no discussion at all of issues peripheral to an ongoing crisis, especially when the primary topic in that conversation is of the government of a different state entirely and how people behave within it and an ongoing crisis contributing to that behavior. i have seen sentiment against discussion of this sort and it just doesn't feel reasonable.
if i get weirdness about the 'especially immediate impact on trans women' i'm gonna be cross. it's common knowledge at this point that trans women are a priority target for conservatives and that we register to conservatives as a nice first target to lead into everyone else in the community.
apologies for the rigor, i have just seen some Very Hostile Responses to others political posts for much less and i am not about to countenance that behavior here
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jajatheunwise · 6 months ago
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seeing a lot of heartbreak and outrage happening post-election, and i just needed to write out my thoughts because I've heard too many bad takes pinning blame in the wrong places, even from friends.
tl;dr: Kamala didn't lose solely because of racism/sexism/pro-palestine voters. she lost because the system she serves - the system that was supposed to serve the people - decided our needs could be ignored, as long as they could keep pretending to be better than Trump. She lost because people paid attention to what she said she would do (for both domestic and foreign policy) and realized there was no lesser evil, only the same evil.
People absolutely have the right to feel like the world is ending. but if you only started feeling that way after the election (or you're blaming pro-Palestine folks for Kamala losing), please reflect on whether your activism is truly for the people or just for YOUR people.
let's look at the facts. 2 million more people voted trump this year compared to when he lost in 2020, but kamala lost 15 million of the people that voted blue in 2020. why?
was it racism/sexism? the people that vote blue are usually not the ones who take issue with a black female president. it's generally republicans who have a problem with that, so kamala wasted her entire campaign trying to pander to conservatives who were going to vote trump anyway. the right wing is growing (especially among young male voters) and that is undeniably scary, but that's not the only reason she lost.
she could have had the easiest win in history. all she had to do was listen to her voters. a majority of voters, especially in swing states, said they'd be more likely to vote for her if she ended the genocide. dems chose AIPAC money instead. and no they weren't "working tirelessly for a ceasefire," previous republican presidents have forced israel to stop its aggressions with a single phone call. if biden/harris gave a shit, they could even end it now, while biden is still president.
even after crossing that giant red line of genocide, she could have promised policies to show she would be significantly different than trump, so we could at least believe a blue vote would reduce harm and protect our most marginalized populations. For most of the election, I believed pretty strongly in voting for her to reduce harm to our most marginalized communities. but then she ignored the demands of her voting base and chose to pander to Trump supporters by being as much like Trump in policy as possible. she promised to be more tough on crime and immigration than trump, to build the world's most lethal military, to give trump supporters a seat at her table. she refused to speak up for trans rights or against fracking. dems refused to codify roe v wade because they wanted to be able to dangle that carrot. essentially, she wanted to do everything trump did, but without being as openly evil about it so they could keep saying trump was worse.
so yeah, that might have lost a lot of people. and while I don't think Trump supporters are above tampering with ballots, I don't think a recount would do shit because this is genuinely how the people voted.
some people have decided to blame palestinians and 3rd party voters for not voting kamala, instead of blaming the democratic party for doing nothing to earn their vote. first off, even all the 3rd party voters combined wouldn't have changed the election results because most people were too disillusioned to vote when both parties ignored their needs so badly. Secondly, to all the people saying that 3rd party voters were privileged to make a performative vote based on our self-righteous morals because it wouldn't affect us: I live in a solid blue state, so no matter how I voted, it would not have affected the election results. So if all our CA votes were purely a way to communicate our values, I'd rather stick to my values. A blue vote would have communicated that Democrats could get away with genocide and still have our popular support. I have no regrets about voting Jill Stein, even knowing that she wouldn't win. I did have some hope because if a 3rd party managed to amass 5% of the popular vote, it would have been eligible to receive public funding and guaranteed ballot access, so in future elections we might not be stuck with 2 genocidal options. I voted out of hope, and it was the only option that had even the slightest chance of resulting in anything good.
and to anyone blaming pro-palestine folx: of course we're not happy about a trump presidency. of course we care about all the marginalized folx he will undoubtedly target, but can you say the same for yourself? can you really say you care for the palestinians when you're walking over their dead bodies to support the people who enabled their genocide, because you're afraid your rights will be endangered? y'all need to understand that regardless of who won, for palestinians, it's the same worst-case scenario with different face paint. we're horrified trump won, but we're also horrified that our only 2 options were both so bad. under biden, we've watched hundreds of thousands be slaughtered with our tax money for over a year while the media silenced their suffering. when people protested and demanded that the administration follow international law, dems at the dnc laughed and plugged their ears and kamala said "if you want trump to win, just say that." How could democrats expect people to fall in line and support her just because trump would supposedly do worse? how were palestinian americans gonna fear trump when they've already been living their worst case scenario for over a year? and now that he's president and your rights are on the line, you expect them to empathize? if you're heartbroken and outraged now, you absolutely have a right to feel that way. but if you only started feeling that way after the election, please take some time to introspect. if you're saying you don't care about Palestine anymore because we let trump win, you never cared about their rights in the first place, only your own.
if anyone is to blame for a trump presidency, it's the democratic party and the 2-party system in general. dems could have won if they did less than the bare minimum and just STOPPED ARMING ISRAEL. kamala assumed the protesters saying "no votes for genocide" were bluffing, that she could scare us with the threat of a trump presidency even though her platform really wasn't that different from his. and why would it need to be, when dems have previously gotten away with the same by just pretending to give a shit? the system doesn't care who is enacting the will of AIPAC and all the corporate sponsors; they use different PR strategies to accomplish the same policies.
do people understand how bad the democratic party had to be in order for us to accept the risk of a trump presidency? i remember when trump was elected in 2016. i was working with mostly undocumented students, and i was horrified at the state of the country and scared for our most marginalized communities. Since then, I learned more what the dems have been getting away with, unopposed by liberals because they beat trump and were paying lip service to neoliberal values. biden has kicked out millions more immigrants than trump did. obama started the kids in cages practice, and he launched 10x more drones than bush, with 90% resulting in civilian casualties. I didn't know that shit was going on at the time either, and I know I supported dems in the past. this time, while i'm still terrified and sad, my conscience is clear because the people showed the dems they can't get away with genocide.
I understand people who voted Kamala hoping to reduce harm, especially from people less informed about the dems' atrocities. I was one of them for a while. But I'm having trouble empathizing with the uncritical Kamala supporters who have been harassing people for not supporting their woc girlboss. I know people will unite to resist trump, but if Kamala had won and implemented the same policies Trump would have done, how many of her supporters would have continued to push for change? how many blue MAGA folks would be content with a status quo that allowed for genocide and constant human rights violations and killing the planet, as long as they had a president willing to say "black lives matter" and "love is love" and "climate change is real"?
We all gotta unite to protect our most marginalized now, and while everyone's welcome to join the fight, some of y'all really need to reflect on whether your activism is truly for the people or just for YOUR people. Do you see intersectional activism as a transactional I-scratch-your-back-you-scratch-mine, or do you recognize that all of our struggles are interconnected and none of us are free until all of us are free? I won't treat you like an enemy and I'm always willing to help people learn, but if your solidarity ain't intersectional, if you don't recognize that it's liberation for all, we don't need you treating us like enemies as soon as you're done fighting for yourself.
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