#‘trump will be worse!�� WHO IN PALESTINE WILL LIVE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IF YOU CANT MAKE A THORNLESS THREAT TO A MAN WHO IS ‘BETTER’

[badolmen]

The ‘vote blue no matter who!’ crowd is starting to get on my nerves. Like, I’m trying not to give away the game, but do they even know that we’re playing?

The point of loudly denouncing Biden and the Democrats NOW is to threaten them into stopping a fucking genocide that’s happening NOW. It is the only (legal) way we can threaten them as their constituents. It’s a game of fucking chicken! If the Dems were legitimately concerned about ceding office to Trump, they would take action NOW to try and recapture voters. But they don’t because they think they can get away with literal genocide and still win the Oval Office because voters like you are too chicken or too paralyzed to make a simple threat.

I don’t give a fuck what you do in the ballot box come November but jfc this is about collective bargaining and you cowards can’t even pretend to give enough of a fuck about a genocide to threaten your reps like??? Grow a fucking spine and do the bare fucking minimum of voicing your solidarity.

[prozach27]

As someone who has had posts supporting Kamala Harris in the 2024 election receive an influx of attention, I think it’s worth mentioning that this leads to a number of accounts 1) sending me copy and pasted, word for word indictments of her not letting Palestinians speak at the DNC, and 2) reblogging the post to state that people who support democrats are racist because democrats “support genocide” - despite my post arguing that democrats shouldn’t be trusted to have our best interest in mind and that they’re complicit in genocide but more likely to capitulate to demands than a Trump administration. Interestingly, those who reblog to talk about how white democrats supporting Kamala are racist also have never offered a single alternate option, have no candidates they’re recommending, and offer no ways to support Palestine during their critique.

I am BEGGING you all to recognize election interference when it is this blatant. Do you know who is most likely to become concerned about voting based on this messaging? White liberals in their teens and 20s who make up a significant portion of the Democratic voting population. Do you know who falls victim to people concerned about how “Harris won’t let Palestinians speak” at the DNC? Liberals who care about Palestine, which is DEMONSTRABLY the largest portion of the voting base. We will never have a viable candidate for president who presses for everything we want against Israel since they’re one of our closest allies for decades. Regardless, voting for president isn’t about voting for who’s the best person - it’s about voting for the enemy you want in office to fight against in meeting your demands. You have Trump, who has told Israel to finish the job, and Harris, who has repeatedly discussed ceasefires and resolutions. If your politics see those two positions as no different, tell that to the Palestinian lives who will be saved in a ceasefire brokered by the US.

Tumblr is once again home to election interference, and I am asking you to please recognize the signs that accounts are preying upon potential Democratic voters to get Trump in office and make things exponentially worse. Question why someone is railing against Harris while offering no alternative. Ask yourself, “who is it this person is telling me to support in the election, how viable is their preferred candidate to win, and why do they think they’re better?” If a post tearing down Harris can’t meet these basic requirements, assume it’s election interference and report it. Better yet, reblog this post and tag blogs who continually fail to meet these requirements so people can block them. We need to be aware that this is happening. It’s time to combat it as a community.

[mxwhore]

im going to be a bitch for a second but as a latinoamerican person whose voice is naturally being choked out by the USAelection, i think i deserve it.

Ive been seeing a lot of posts calling to not vote for Kamala because she didnt do jack for Palestine. I also resent her for not doing jack for Palestine, but also?

Its the USA. The USA ruins countries for its own gain and then lie to you about it. They ruined mine for 3 decades and we are still figuring shit out. Im not telling you this to make you feel bad for being usamerican. Im know you didnt choose this. Im trying to make you understand that a different president will not change the nature of usamerican imperialism.

Vote for the person who will not charge you money to check the weather. Also Trump will make life so much worse for everyone INCLUDING US PEOPLE THAT DO NOT LIVE IN THE USA. BOLSONARO AND KAST CAME FROM FUCKING TRUMP.

Keep donating to Palestinian fundraisers, that does more than telling people not to vote. And keep surviving.

[aardappel-van-mijn-oog]

Kamala is doing everything she can lads.

Try and grasp the situation here: she is the presumptive nominee of a party that is comprised of both staunch Israëli opponents and hard line Israëli supporters. She also is going up against a party of exclusively the latter, and wants to try and convince as many people deciding between the Democrats and Republicans to vote for her in November. She cannot afford to lose because if she does, America will turn into a fascist theocracy for the foreseeable future, and then we will all be fucked because America is the most influential country upon global politics.

So Kamala Harris CANNOT AFFORD to say any more than she is saying about the war in Palestine right now, because if she does, she risks losing the support of a large and potentially election-deciding group of swing voters.

I am a supporter of a free and prosperous Palestine. I believe that Israël has no right to exist as a country, and that it is an apartheid state. But I also have some amount of common sense, and I see that there has to be a compromise here. As, it seems, does Kamala Harris. Watch the video above to see what I mean.

I am not a resident of the United States. I live in the Netherlands, where in the last election, the party with the most votes was the party who wants to ban the Qur’ān and close all mosques, advocates for increased and more violent policing, wants to retract the official apologies made for the Netherlands’ involvement in the Slave Trade, and ban puberty blockers. That’s not because most people want to do those things. It’s because people didn’t fucking vote. Well there are more reasons than that but that’s one of the main ones.

So, Americans. From your friends over in Europe. We like you. We don’t want you to live under a fascist theocracy. However, we don’t have the power to stop that. Only you do, and you can do it by putting aside your grievances and seeing the big picture here. In other words,

VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS.

I’m not gonna go into all the rest of her policies, but coming from a gay genderqueer socialist I think she’s pretty solid. Obviously she and I don’t agree on everything, but that’s because we’re unique individuals with different personalities, upbringings and backgrounds. Yknow, like how normal society is? I’ve been hearing so much discourse on this kut website and most of it boils down to “she’s not a carbon copy of me so I won’t vote for her”.

Guys, what the fuck happened to the tolerant left? What happened to the people who welcomed different ideas and beliefs? Are they in the room with us now??? Grow up. Go to your silly little American voting website and register to vote. I don’t know which website it is but someone can link it in a reblog or something idk.

And for my European friends. I know we all dislike how much influence American politics has on our lives. I fucking hate it. But we live in a globalised world, for better or worse, so try as best you can to make as many Americans that you know and love vote for Kamala Harris - or whoever it ends up being - come November. That’s the most we can do to ensure the right wing parties of our own countries don’t see Trump and follow in their footsteps. It’s happening in the Netherlands and we are already seeing the consequences over here. I’d talk about them but this post is too long.

TLDR: OI AMERICANS, VOTE BLUE

(pwease :3)

[traegorn]

there’s this horrible fucking sense of abandonment I see from leftists who live in purple or blue states whose lives didn’t change much at all during Trump’s first term and who expect that they’ll be protected similarly from a second. like I live in a state where we’ve had right-wing control for decades, for almost a century, and the federal government is the only thing protecting my very flimsy human rights and moving the needle away from extremism, and we have huge immigrant populations who will be vulnerable under Trump, and the public health situation will get worse, and that’s on top of his stance on Palestine. but because people live in safe little cultural bubbles where nobody actually thinks or believes the way Trump and Vance do they’re willing to abandon us. our votes aren’t going to flip our state blue this election, and the people who MIGHT flip blue are waffling because they care more about feeling proud of themselves than about our safety. what the fuck.

They're in a bubble and just have no contact with those of us in the real world.

The one thing I hope puts a light at the end of the tunnel is that there was a time when we thought Georgia would never become a swing state and would stay firmly red.

Your vote matters and does make a difference. Maybe it won't shift today, but in the long term you matter. Keep fighting, and keep going.

We're in this together.

[imperiuswrecked]

Every single person who is trying to shame people into voting for Genocide Joe's re-election because "Trump is worse and Biden is less worse" is disgusting.

As a person who voted Democrat since I could vote, as a person who fought with family or acquaintances to make them see how bad Trump is, the level of shame and guilt that I've been carrying for weeks over the Genocide in Palestine, over every single death that I see on my screen, over every story I read about those brave suffering people, has eaten me alive. To know that my vote put a monster in power.

"We can't live through Trump again". Too bad. Maybe instead of spending all your energy shaming the people, especially the Palestinian-Americans, into voting for the man who is directly responsible, directly to blame, for ongoing aid to fund and support the deaths of thousands of men, women, and children, maybe you should do the work to put a better candidate in office, maybe you should say "hey both these people are horrible, we should pick someone better" and then work towards that instead of saying "anyone who doesn't vote for Biden over the Palestinian Genocide is worse than the people who vote for Trump". I know you all don't care about the lives of people half a world away but I do.

I will never again in my life vote for a single person who supports the atrocities that I've witnessed.

I will not compromise my morals for your comfort.

Fuck you.

For anyone else who cares about making a difference follow and support Project Olive Grove, they are actively working to ensure that this won't ever happen again by having politicians who advocate for the people and not for genocide.

[glareraw]

Accelerationists are pathetic

Accelerationism is a range of revolutionary and reactionary ideas in left-wing and right-wing ideologies that call for the drastic intensification of capitalist growth, technological change, infrastructure sabotage and other processes of social change to destabilize existing systems and create radical social transformations, otherwise referred to as "acceleration". “Accelerationism.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 9 Aug. 2024. Link

Let's be so fucking for real.

We are in a hopeful political landscape right now. Trump looks more and more like he will lose, and Kamala Harris alongside her VP pick Tim Walz are winning over the hearts of Americans, and increasingly beating Trump in the polls as he rambles on about how Kamala changed her race or something. And we are learning how to parse the alarmist claims of news media, and deny them ad revenue from scaring us.

But there is a thorn in side of the Democratic Party. A small group of very loud accelerationists who claim to be leftist online act like Kamala is the antichrist. Their two main claims are that she imprisoned over 1,500 people for smoking weed during her time as a prosecutor, and they still act like she fully supports the genocide in Palestine, despite the first claim being a lie told by Tulsi Gabbard in the 2020 presidential race, and the second claim a case of "I pretend I do not see it" in terms of the truth.* (see footnote) They seem to forget that a Trump presidency would be FAR worse for Palestinians.

But let's be real. The originators of this argument are cishet white people who live in major cities of coastal blue states and whose parents pay their rent. They have a feeling of emptiness in their life because they have everything given to them, so they argue with LGBTQ+ people and POC online instead of making an actual difference in the real world. They sit behind their screens and convince unsuspecting netizens of their delusions that we could have a viable 3rd party candidate come out of nowhere in less than 3 months, and completely ignore the fact that a candidate with their ideology would absolutely tank in an election. They don't care that the American people are not ready for the nation they want to make.

One of the talking main strategies these accelerationists are trying is to get people to abstain from voting --if they don't get their third party candidate. Their goal is to get less votes for Kamala to make Donald Trump win so the world will go to shit and they can remake society from the ashes how THEY want.

They think that their lives are sheltered from the blatant danger of the republican platform, to hell with the women and LGBTQ+ and POC of the red states! They are totally fine with sacrificing the safety of women and minorities in service of their unrealistic headcanon. They simply do not, or refuse to understand the severity of the situation we find ourselves in. If Trump wins 2024, there's a pretty strong chance there won't be an election --at least a real one-- in 2028 or ever again.

And if they think they will actually be able to start a revolution against the federal government? If they can get past the SWAT team arrests at their peaceful protests and CIA assassinations of their movement's leaders, they will have the honor of battle with the most powerful and overfunded military on Earth. Good luck with that! But these people would be lucky to even have leadership to begin with, because none of them actually have a viable plan or real knowledge of how to make their maladaptive daydreams real and govern their dream society.

If you read all of this and look at the facts and still believe Kamala Harris is a horrible person and you don't WANT to vote for her, then fine. I don't feel the need to argue with you further. But you NEED to vote. Change will have to be made gradually, it can't happen all at once this time. As I said, the country isn't ready for that. But if enough leftists don't vote, and Trump actually wins, it will set us back decades, if not a century or more. The government will not collapse, it will just become stronger under fascist rule. They will not get the chance to make the change they want.

I don't think the ideology of accelerationism poses a huge threat in this election. The overwhelming amount of support for the Harris Walz campaign, combined with the long-expected downward spiral of Donald Trump makes it more and more likely that we will see Kamala in the White House. And the media fear mongering about insubordination from the electorates --and Kamala's defeat in the Trump-appointed federal courts after the election-- is largely overblown. They forget how we won in 2020. AFTER Trump was ousted.

But as I said, overall, I don't think accelerationists will be successful in causing a Trump victory. They just really piss me off.

*She supports a ceasefire and the two-state solution, but can't make that happen just yet as she is just the VP but that's a whole can of worms and a conversation for another time. Just know I personally support a ceasefire and understand that what is happening in Palestine IS a genocide.

[fairuzfan]

Genuinely curious, because I've seen some people say that one should vote biden because if you vote for trump or desantis their stance on the ongoing genocide and other matters would actually be worse than what we're contending with, and I have no true frame of reference: do you think that's actually true or a likely possibility?

I'm of the opinion that it really doesn't matter who we vote for anyways, the outcomes will still be the same. Biden is enabling 4 different genocides/ethnic cleansing (Palestine, Congo, Armenia, Sudan) and honestly, I don't see how it can get any worse.

They often make the argument that things will happen *here* that is dangerous but speaking as someone who has lived in a very Red state my entire life, it has never been safe or welcoming for me to begin with, along with others who have similar identities to me. Not to mention that bad things have already happened here under Biden, with the Abortion ban, book bans, and ban on critical race theory being taught in schools.

Trump is not great, like I don't want him to win either. He was the person who moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem and it was seen as a political slap to the face to Palestinians (click). Don't get me wrong they're both piles of shit. But I refuse to elect people into office that let such flagrantly terrible things happen in the world. These people have no oversight in their actions, are free to do what they want, and no manner of "democratic" intervention will stop them from doing the things they want, especially when they're afraid of losing funding for going against major lobbying organizations like CUFI and AIPAC.

This isn't the first time Biden ignored Palestinians in this term. Remember in 2021 with the settlements in Shiekh Jarrah? He didn't say a word condemning Israel for their forced displacement and their bombardment of Gaza (click). Sure the Abraham Accords sucked and that was brokered by Trump, but Biden could have undone that. He didn't. He just re-approved aid to Palestinians (which, who cares when they're under occupation? No amount of aid will help them attain liberation). Palestinians don't want aid — they want America to stop funding the Zionist Entity.

Everyone in Palestine already knows that the Israel's biggest supporter, America, is also their biggest funder. If they just stopped funding, everything would be cut in half. There is no way the Zionist entity would be able to sustain itself. Even now, their economy is failing because they relied on Palestinians for much of their cheap labor. They cannot support themselves without USAmerica's direct intervention.

I am of the opinion that we should organize to change the way our government operates or else things like these will keep happening. It does not help anyone but the ultrarich and the people in power. Things like Cop City and the genocide in Congo and Sudan and Armenia only happen because the US has a vested monetary interest in oppressing them. This will not change between presidents. Biden will just be quieter about it.

I don't know how to organize stuff like this, or where to go to organize, but if we keep playing in the system they laid out where they always win, then there's no way anything can change.

[gryficowa]

Boycott!

If the "Vote Blue" people piss me off, they simply have no humility (Even if people were recently murdered with weapons provided by Blue), they will still write about voting for the Zionist Harris, because the classic argument "Because Trump is worse," and come on, liberals, and shove Trump and Harris up your ass

The truth is that you don't care about the Palestinians, and you use them as a reason to scare Trump (Because apparently only if Trump supplied weapons like your Zionist Harris and Biden do from the Blue Smurfs, you would finally care about genocide, you fucking liberal bastards)

If you cared about Palestine, you'd go after Harris and the blue party, but you don't fucking do that, you masturbate to them like they're the fucking messiah

But it's better to call everyone stupid (Classically "Idiots"), Russian trolls or scare them with Trump, right, stupid liberals?

Just stop lying that you care about Gaza when all you do is use Palestinians as an election campaign, shame on you, you don't care about Palestinian lives, when you don't criticize or choose blue people, you are no different from Trump fans, in fact you are worse, because you lie about your intentions and the fact that many believe you is disgusting

That's why everyone despises you, because you are fake bitches who feed their fragile egos

Yes, I will be unkind to liberals because they don't care about Palestine and they use it to get people to vote, there are blue terrorists, because "Trump is worse"

Besides, many liberals believe in Zionist propaganda about Hamas, so it proves even more that they don't care about Palestine and the only thing they use it for is to emotionally blackmail people (Yes, disgusting people, in short)

Now that I have your attention:

[sappho114]

Genuinely gobsmacked that I saw someone I follow on here call not voting, or at least putting pressure on the democratic party, "single issue voting" and implied it was a lesser of evils and harm reduction.

I know some people are callous and ignorant and nasty but how can you think you're a good person if you ignore all of the everything else. Such a white middle-class mindset if all you see is a single issue, never mind being completely ignorant of electoralism at all. YOU are the single issue voter, bitch. YOU are the unreasonable little fuck.

Palestine deserves our advocacy because American money, American politics, and American munitions are directly responsible for all of it. It is not only condoned but encouraged daily by the same people these cunts want us to vote for. If you disagree with that, then you disagree with that. Just say it - don't be a coward and pretend like you care about their lives. Just fucking say it with your chest: its all a performative game to you. You only care so long as it doesn't potentially impact you.

Because let's face the facts, these people are also the same sorts who have no time, advocacy, or attention to any of the numerous imperial terrors that the democrats - or k harris specifically - have sown in only the past four years. All of which the current nominees had their hands in. Is it single issue voting if I don't want someone to be president when they've been ghoulishly and comically evil in regards to border policies, migrant concentration camps, reproductive rights malaise, LGBT+ rights, and for not enabling or encouraging but actively creating the new pandemic of militarized policing by using the National Guard to abuse, kill, and maim citizens that you don't agree with? These seem like more than one issue, all of which are perhaps adequate reasons to utilize one's electoral right and responsibility (as you see it) to vote for a candidate who has their interests or the country's interests in mind.

Like, sure, you can sit there and be an absolute dumbfuck and write off Palestine because you are a bad person but the unfortunate truth here is that by just voting for the people who make things worse - red or blue, same team different colors! - you're just another idiot who is choosing to crouch behind the curtain like every other ghoulish system-fellating moron who just doesn't have the guts to be uncomfortable for the five fucking minutes it takes to pressure Democrats into doing something, anything, other than rapidly whirlpooling into fascism.

If you hold those opinions you are simply uneducated politically, academically in history, socially, and you are letting your comfort mean more to you than actual people's lives - yourself included, because you're SO willing to let a million canaries die as long as you can go about your day without being challenged or feel complicated.

Every single civil rights advocate who was assassinated by the US government has quotes about how you people do this, too. Like, you are aware that you're that shade of person right? The white moderate, the quasi-liberal, the fucker who won't even acknowledge the knife is there. And don't think people didn't see you play pretend and immediate discard the BLM movement just as quickly as it went out of vogue because you were "tired" from COVID, not because you actually cared about black people.

Where was your advocacy and attention during Trump's first presidency? Why did it stop when the blue team switched into his chair and made so many things worse? Because that's your team?

All you need to do is shut the fuck up, to stop telling people to not feel for others, advocate for others, or adhere to their own moral codes. Nobody needs to know that you're a big coward pissbaby who is turning into the next ghoulish sycophant like Pete Bootychug and his ilk, gleefully wiping your brow of any and all social responsibility the moment you decide that voting for the Minnesotan police state guy and the woman who loves genocide and hates migrants get in office.

You can, and should, just fucking shut up if you want to vote so badly for them and do nothing else.

[political-sideblog-dont-at-me]

As we get closer to election day, I'm going to need people to be normal about Palestinians complaining about Kamala Harris.

Don't reply to their posts with "But Trump would be worse!" (They also hate him, criticizing Harris is not an endorsement of Trump [And if they don't name a candidate they want you to vote for it's not an endorsement of anyone]. They're fully aware of how bad Trump is, the thing is that with the, you know, genocide going on they're already going through hell now under someone who's not Trump.)

Don't reply to their posts talking about how hard you hope their lives will be under Trump because they're a minority (I've seen people do this, seriously what is wrong with you? First that's not how you act when you want to convince people. Second many of them are already suffering under the Biden administration. Third, you're just being bigoted when you do that "You're a minority who doesn't agree with me so I hope [Terrible thing] happens to you if my politician doesn't win" is just showing that you don't care about minorities unless they agree with you. You're not "warning" them or whatever you think you're doing, you'rejust being a prick. And you're showing every other member of a minority group that your opinions are worth listening to.)

Don't call them a psyop for having a negative opinion of Harris (Yes there is election interference going on. But that's more "Elon Musk is putting targeted ads on Twitter telling different voting blocks completely opposite things about the same candidate" and not "This one person told me they don't want to vote for Kamala Harris because their [Friend/Family member] died from the Biden administration's actions". Instead of harassing them and telling them that Gaza is a single issue, just let them be.)

Lastly, if Harris loses on Tuesday, we are not blaming Palestinians, got it? Even if the number abstaining or voting 3rd party would have won her the election. Nobody should be forced to vote for an administration that is actively taking part in killing their families, and nobody should be criticized for choosing another option under those circumstances. The Biden administration could've already started an arms embargo on Israel, or even just sent them less money and fewer weapons, or stopped vetoing UN resolutions, or actually used that dock they built for humanitarian aid (Like they pretended they would) instead of sending in more military forces, etc.

They could've actually done something to make Palestinians genuinely want to vote for Harris, but instead the Biden administration has thrown itself full force behind the genocide. Has Harris said better things about Palestine than Trump has? Sure, but those are all words until something actually happens (Technically the Vice President doesn't have much political power, but she is in a position to put pressure on Biden and be more vocally supportive of any policies that would actually make Israel stop. And she hasn't).

Basically, just don't harrass the people who are currently direct victims of genocide. It's incredibly simple and easy, just don't reply to or report their posts.

(Side note: Yes there are articles about some Palestinians either supporting Harris or saying anyone is better than Trump. Try to remember that Palestinians have varying opinions and if you're responding to a Palestinian who's mad at Harris by saying "But this other Palestinian isn't so you shouldn't be!" you are indeed the bad guy. Additionally it seems like in Gaza the current general opinion is "This election doesn't affect us because neither candidate will stop the genocide." That's not an endorsement of Harris, that's telling you you still need to protest after the election. And if Harris does get elected and she continues Biden's policies then you will see me shift to advocating for 3rd party candidates instead of simply telling you to not harrass people over their voting decisions. If she actually helps Palestine I would be pleasantly surprisedbut as of now I don't expect her to do anythingbut uphold the status quo [Which is really bad])

[reallystellacadente]

I Really Don't Want to Die, and Why

I need to make something ENTIRELY clear: Donald Trump needs to be defeated BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

ANY. FUCKING. MEANS. NECESSARY.

The rest is below the cut because it's long and personal. The tl;dr, though is if you cannot abide me posting that you have to vote for the Democrat in this election, you should probably unfollow me. I'm not all that popular, so blocking is unnecessary but you do you.

That also includes his supporters on Capitol Hill, the incompetents on SCOTUS, and any and all of the Nationalist Christians (Nat C) fascists who support the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 and any other manifestos they have excreted into the public domain.

For me, that means I have to vote for the Democratic nominee for president in 2024. To not vote, or to waste my vote on a useless third party candidate, is to hand a vote to Trump. Go back and check the facts of 2016: Jill Stein voters handed him Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, where I live. Nonvoters who usually voted Democrat who stayed home because of the Email Lady also would have made a difference.

Fine. We fucked around and found out. Hundreds of thousands died. An insurrection happened literally in front of our eyes. And the figurehead behind it all has, to date, gotten away with everything.

Now the Beast is even worse. If Donald Trump gets elected, his policies will LITERALLY COST ME MY LIFE and that of my family. He will take away my healthcare (I am a recent cancer survivor), my pending disability (I cannot walk or stand for more than a few seconds and had to quit my job; this predates and is unrelated to my cancer), my EBT (haven't been able to work more than part-time for a while now, and I do like to eat food) and the pitiful partial Social Security we're living on while my disability is getting approved -- thanks to the GOP, a process that takes a minimum of 6-8 months. I will lose my income and my housing and everything.

I FUCKING DON'T LIKE THAT.

None of this -- ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THIS -- means I support the genocide in Palestine. I have been fighting this fight since the mid-80s and I can get the receipts if you want. I questioned why it was OK to roll tanks onto people who threw stones at them, only to get called a terrorist.

But now, when I am doing the best I can to fight the literal war here where I live, I'm called a white supremacist? Fuck you. I mean, the person sending me messages has been blocked and won't see this, but I'm getting that out into the universe nevertheless.

If you're old enough to navigate this website, you're old enough to curate your own experience here. Unfollow me if me saying "you need to vote for the Democrat" is bothersome. I will accept that it might even be triggering and that's OK, I certainly don't want to actually trigger someone's pain. But sending me threatening messages is bullshit and you know it.

I don't stan politicians and in social media spaces where my real identity is known, and I have stated this many times. Cult of personality sucks no matter who it's about. But all things considered, the Democratic platform/policies/whatever have always been closer to what I want in the place where I live. The GOP? Never in my lifetime.

It's hard for me to reconcile these things, but I know that if Trump wins, it will be even worse for Palestine. And he'll let Putin run rampant through Ukraine, too.

I'm sorry this is what it's come down to. I hope to live long enough to see something change. But we absolutely must defeat Donald Trump.

I want to live.

[im-a-simp-for-my-ships]

I've been seeing a lot of posts talking about the upcoming election, and that because of the atrocities happening in Palestine, which are genuinely horrific and need to stop, that voting for Biden is the same as voting for Trump, because they're both terrible people, Biden doubly worse because he's put the US on Israel's side. I'm not Palestinian, I can't even imagine the horrors they're going through and do not deserve. Palestine deserves to be free, full stop.

And to be supportive of a free Palestine may mean not siding with either Trump or Biden, but for me, yes, Biden is no better on this policy than Trump would be, I honestly think if you're the president of the US, no matter who it's been, there's never been a policy that I can remember that's made the middle east a better place, or hasn't been selfish in nature. The US's policy towards Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, for instance, has never been a policy of peace or support for the people who have to live under oppressive/muderous regimes. So I don't care if it's been Carter, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Trump, or Biden, the innocent civilians in those countries will always be canon fodder and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

But as someone who is a citizen of the US, while I can hate what my country is doing with their foreign policy, I also have to worry about what happens HERE. With women's rights, lgbtq rights, minority rights, voting rights, the list goes on.

If Republicans gain control of the White House again, if they gain control of congress, we are done. That's it, game over. Trump and his cohorts have made it abundantly clear that if they get it back, they will do everything they can to never give up that power up again. And if you don't think they' have the balls to do it, just remember January 6th.

If you think roe v wade repeal was bad, just look at what else they've done to reproductive rights on the state level, imagine if they could ban abortion or other reproductive services on a federal level! Don't forget the book banning here, anti lgbtq laws there, and it can't be missed that the Supreme Court, which is full of Trump appointees, have shown that they're not afraid to throw the constitution or precedent under the bus and rule according to their own, and right wing MAGA, whims!

So yes, it may seem contradictory on my part, to say I'm pro Palestine but still voting blue across the board, and I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for saying any of this, but for me, and this is partly selfish and partly for the future of so many different communities in the US, if there is no difference in foreign policy between Trump and Biden, there at least is an EXTREMELY BIG DIFFERENCE in domestic policy when it comes to rights for the people who live here too.

If anyone really thinks those with a MAGA mindset are no different than the party that doesn't actively want to take away reproductive rights or want to protect our right to vote or don't want to make trans people disappear, then I'm sorry, your rightful indignation at what's happening to the Palestinian people is making you forget what can happen to you, your family, your friends, and strangers across this country if Trump and his cohorts win this upcoming election. And I understand why, because the genocide that's happening is beyond atrocious, and the country I live in is playing a part in it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that you can want the atrocities to stop, to care about what's happening, but also care about what's happening in your own backyard, in your own country too.

Remember, no one thought Trump could win, and he did. And he did what we all feared. He pushed through like-minded people into one of the most powerful institutions in this country, and they reversed a nearly 50 year old ruling protecting the right to choose. Then they took Affirmative Action. And even though state law prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation, they ruled in favor of homophobes who don't want to create sites for same-sex weddings. And as of now, they'll be hearing cases on access to medication for abortions, and emergency abortion care at hospitals. Who knows what else will land at their feet next, and who else they may try to appoint if an opportunity comes to get another one of his people in there.

This got way too long, but I wanted to get out my feelings on this. I know this is not a both sides issue, just like reproductive rights are not a both sides issue, or racism isn't a both sides issue.

Palestine deserves to be free. Palestinians deserve to live a life without fear of death and persecution. They deserve to live, period.

I also can't ignore what happens here either. So I will continue to vote blue no matter who, because that's what I can do right now, and that's the only choice I feel I can make with the shitty cards we've been dealt.

[monstrousgourmandizingcats]

lmao like the israelis "made" biden give them weapons for more than a year 💀

I assume you're referring to this post, anon? Good point. Let me explain.

So I'm not referring to Carter's Iran policy and Biden' Israel policy in general; there are similarities, but also important differences, both because these are different sequences of events and because Carter was quite frankly a better person and possibly even a better President (yes) than Biden is. I'm referring to a specific event, the resolution of the Iran hostage crisis literally an hour into Ronald Reagan's presidency, about which there's long been a conspiracy theory that nowadays is accepted as pretty much true. It seems very very possible that something similar happened here because Netanyahu--a man who grew up in Pennsylvania of all places, openly sees himself as a Republican first and foremost and in Israeli political terms only secondarily, and is known to be racist not only against Arabs but also against groups that include people like Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, and much of his own support base--wanted his bestie Trump back so badly.

You also have Richard Nixon sabotaging talks that were being held to end the Vietnam War during the summer of 1968 so that he could run on having a "secret plan to end the war" (his words!), when LBJ couldn't do so and supposedly neither could LBJ's vice president who was running to succeed him after he dropped out of his reelection campaign, Hubert Humphrey (sound familiar?). As my friend Allen, whom I don't believe has a Tumblr, put it:

Semifinals Lyndon B. Johnson and Hubert H. Humphrey vs. Richard Nixon and Nguyen Van Thieu Joe Biden and Kamala Harris vs. Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu Final Richard Nixon and Nguyen Van Thieu vs. Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTER

(I choose Nixon and Nguyen, and the depressing part is that it isn't even a hard choice.)

While I'm on the topic, sort of, I'd also like to repudiate this notion I've seen going around for over a year now that Netanyahu isn't actually uniquely bad, it's the Israeli state and Israeli society that has consistently been just as evil as he is. That isn't true--even if Israeli society was already at the bottom of a very deep moral hole in 2009, it has kept digging since Netanyahu started consolidating power in that year--and I think it's a dangerous untruth because presenting a problem as more intractable than it actually is discourages people from solving it. You see this also with the inaccurate and offensive notion that "Jews and Arabs have been fighting for thousands of years," which encourages people to ignore the decisions taken in the first half of the twentieth century, some of them still within living memory, that made 1948-and-subsequent go the way it did. (SYKES-PICOT: A HUNDRED YEARS OF CONSEQUENCES.) Netanyahu did in fact take an already-bad situation and make it even worse, because of moral and ideological problems that are in fact unusually severe within his worldview and mindset. He should be in one of the prisons in England where they send you when you get convicted at the Hague. Some of the big Hamas guys would belong there as well if they weren't dead already, Trump belongs there based on his first time around alone (to say nothing of what he plans to do this time), and arguably Biden and some of Biden's foreign policy people also belong there. The problem is that the severity of the accusation gets stretched to bursting if you go beyond that and apply it to the whole populations of multiple countries ("countries" plural because pro-Israel people also say this sort of thing about Palestine) over the past seventy-five-odd years.

[beardedmrbean]

[Huey Zoomer Anon]

“Why you don’t live in the city?” If you mean the big populated one, that would be Chicago and there a reason why it called Chiraq by the black locals

Also don’t get this idea that living in the city= expose to a cultural exchange you would never get in a small town…but at the end day leftists wokies non whites friends, most of who are 2nd gen and beyond who are culturally Americans, aren’t the end all for all sources for different cultural

My Bengali friend gave me more insight on India history, cultures, societies, and Hinduism than what the disporia fucks pushes these days

Also being a urbanite still means you can be out of touch

https://youtube.com/shorts/potiWpXoYYQ?si=VKgMSbHwBIGNRfYr

This short is at the dnc in Chicago this past summer

Chicago and Chicagoland have a decent Arab population

Including Free Palestine ones

Source: Me who see them as coworkers and when I go shopping

Soo they could get one Arab/Muslim group for consultant?

“You want to be careful dependent!” I love the environment too, but given how social dynamics is getting worse and due to my autism.

A expression of mine get misinterpreted by a sjw on a train= my entire life is ruined

Also the infantilism of criminals on the left thus lax crime laws makes more and more people avoid moving to be urban areas now

“Why you don’t live in the city?” If you mean the big populated one, that would be Chicago and there a reason why it called Chiraq by the black locals

Easier answer is that the city sucks,

Also don’t get this idea that living in the city= expose to a cultural exchange you would never get in a small town…but at the end day leftists wokies non whites friends, most of who are 2nd gen and beyond who are culturally Americans, aren’t the end all for all sources for different cultural

it's a thing similar to classism, there's significant arrogance on both sides of this one seeing our choice as the better one and such.

My Bengali friend gave me more insight on India history, cultures, societies, and Hinduism than what the disporia fucks pushes these days

Makes sense they'll have different experiences than each other, also with India we always need to remember that it's 862 countries in a raincoat so cultures are going to be wildly different from place to place, even if they're in the same state.

Also being a urbanite still means you can be out of touch

What's fun to do is call "bodegas" either mini marts or convenience stores or something else similar and watch them have a meltdown trying to explain the difference.

This short is at the dnc in Chicago this past summer Chicago and Chicagoland have a decent Arab population Including Free Palestine ones Source: Me who see them as coworkers and when I go shopping Soo they could get one Arab/Muslim group for consultant?

I'm all for encouraging reform in Islam, but I don't see them hitting this point for a while, most of them at least. Given the one city council that all Muslim is backing Trump I'm wondering what % of that particular community is thinking maybe they shouldn't have shifted to the left after 9/11.

Soo they could get one Arab/Muslim group for consultant?

It's likely they did, just not one that would think there was anything weird about this.

A expression of mine get misinterpreted by a sjw on a train= my entire life is ruined Also the infantilism of criminals on the left thus lax crime laws makes more and more people avoid moving to be urban areas now

There's a lot of infantilization out there and most of it could be described using one word that has a "ism" "phobia" or "ist" at the end of it.

[daebelly]

so like. i understand anti-voting sentiment. i get it. i think it's not all that good for effecting change, too. we agree on this and are friends. i also understand and resent that our current president has thrown in his lot with israel while israel commits genocide, and i would withhold my vote were it my choice. but here's the thing that i think a lot of people who say we should not vote for the lesser of two evils haven't factored in: their effective accelerationism will near-inevitably result in a genocide of poc and queer people if it were to succeed. trans people would probably be attacked first, with an especially immediate impact on trans women--guess what i happen to be one of? that's right! a trans woman!

the worst option is to vote for trump or whichever fascist in his place. the second worst option is to simply not vote. (and after that, it's voting third party, which is mainly bad bc it doesn't bolster our defenses against republican solidarity in their voting habits. i understand though, supporting getting a foot in the door for having more than a two-but-actually-one-party system is a very good thing to do, cant fault that).

i just think it's especially convenient for people who want to use israel's genocide of palestine as a foot in the door to spreading genocidal sentiment elsewhere that people are using sympathy for the victims of the genocide to make people in the us think it's productive and/or helpful to just not fight back against the fascists that really want us dead.

just kind of disconcerting to see people declaring that us americans shouldn't vote for the outright nazi's only real opponent while knowing if the outright nazi gets back in there's a chance a lot of us won't make it. and i'd much prefer to survive than be executed for my identity.

put simply: if a nazi gets in, more people die and there's yet less checks on the crimes that the president can commit. a notion of 'honor' in not voting for the lesser of two evils is worth less than the lives of people within the state that's voting and the lives of those that that nazi not getting in will save through preventing the galvanization of the us gov't's support of israel. put even more simply: if things get worse, they will be worse than they would be if they stayed the same. this is so bizarrely simple an equation that i do not get how some people aren't getting it. reducing harm to the minimum is the point.

for anyone confused or intentionally misreading this, a bulleted list below the cut

i am not saying that voting is the only thing you should do. you should be taking more action than just that. but you should still vote. use every weapon in your arsenal, they all perform a function.

i am speaking of rhetoric used by and towards usamericans specifically and i am not prioritizing usamerican issues over the suffering of the victims in gaza. please be respectful and do not try to cast me as seeking to be the victim in a situation that does not really affect my life because i am not.

on that, i think it's unreasonable to expect there to be no discussion at all of issues peripheral to an ongoing crisis, especially when the primary topic in that conversation is of the government of a different state entirely and how people behave within it and an ongoing crisis contributing to that behavior. i have seen sentiment against discussion of this sort and it just doesn't feel reasonable.

if i get weirdness about the 'especially immediate impact on trans women' i'm gonna be cross. it's common knowledge at this point that trans women are a priority target for conservatives and that we register to conservatives as a nice first target to lead into everyone else in the community.

apologies for the rigor, i have just seen some Very Hostile Responses to others political posts for much less and i am not about to countenance that behavior here