#‘he gaslit her’ ‘he emotionally abused her’

[yelena-bellova]

Controversial opinion: I feel really bad for Joe Alwyn.

[francesderwent]

I’ve been on a real Fearless kick lately and it always makes me feel some kinda way about Olivia Rodrigo’s body of work. and not even primarily about her and her talent and her songwriting, just about how different an experience it seems to be growing up as a young millennial woman versus growing up as a young gen z woman. take the total absence of any jealousy/self-image song on Taylor’s debut album or Fearless—because social media wasn’t this omnipresent perfect image factory and so the insecurity of growing up looked more like “Place In This World” or “The Outside”, fundamental experiences of questioning and longing that are deeply connected to our humanity, as opposed to “jealousy jealousy”, “pretty isn’t pretty”, or “lacy” which are founded on an obsession spiral that is literally only possible on that level because of the invention of the smartphone.

look at “Tell Me Why” or “Other Side of the Door” as opposed to “vampire” or “logical”—Taylor’s approach was a very straightforward “you acted this way and this is how it made me feel." it wasn’t until later that she started to make statements about patterns of behavior, because she simply couldn’t see them except in hindsight! she couldn’t say “this is what kind of man you are” or “this is what sort of relationship we had” until she had fully processed what happened—which is when we get songs like “Fifteen” and “Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve” and “The Manuscript”. but because the younger generation breathes the air of pop psychology buzzwords, Olivia is diagnosing her exes and labeling her relationships right away. and you might say this is a good thing, that young women are armed with terms like “gaslighting” and taught to be suspicious of age gaps because of the power differential. but having the knowledge doesn’t seem to have protected Olivia at all. she still makes all the same mistakes, there’s literally a whole song all about knowing something is a bad idea and doing it anyway. she still dates the older guy, but then she has so many labels readymade to explain why it didn’t feel good that she doesn’t ever actually get down to saying how it felt—because I don’t think she knows. the younger generation acts like processing an experience means figuring out what tiktokified sound bite applies to it and then slapping the label on and moving forward. “my parents were emotionally abusive” “my ex was a narcissist” “my ex best friend gaslit me” etc. but it seems to me that’s skipping some necessary stages of actually processing your shit. “vampire” is Olivia trying to write “Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve” before she’s ever written (or felt) “Tell Me Why”. it’s the difference between “here’s to you and your temper, yes I remember what you said last night / and I know that you see what you’re doing to me, tell me why” on the one hand and “went for me and not her ‘cause girls your age know better” or “master manipulator, you’re so good at what you do” or “you convinced me it was all in my mind” on the other hand.

and another side effect of this, the big names in this younger generation of artists aren’t really writing love songs, and I don’t think that’s accidental. they literally do not have the vocabulary to do so. the psychology buzzwords that go around are all about toxic relationships and red flags. and so, deprived of a way of thinking about being in love, the love songs either fall flat (“I’ll go anywhere he goes and he says I’m so American”) or they simply don’t exist. the open-hearted sincerity of a “Hey Stephen” or “Jump Then Fall” is nowhere to be found.

[chaifootsteps]

I really don't get why fans keep insisting Stolas' main flaw is "being insensitive" or "not being self aware"

the former implies that he's annoying others but not picking up on their cues indicating that's the case.

a character "being insensitive" would be something like what happens in that MLP episode, I think it's called All Bottled Up. Trixie accidentally loses something important to Starlight (I think it might've been the quest giving magic table? idk) and she's kind of flippant about it, so the two go around town together trying to get it back while Starlight uses a spell to bottle up all her feelings of anger towards her friend

when she finally does snap, Trixie says she had no idea - and it's believable because Starlight was bottling her anger up and most of the signs of it were small, like in facial expressions or occasional annoyance in her tone. Trixie was insensitive because she should have realized she did something bad that hurt her friend and didn't, then missed her annoyance with that fact because Starlight was literally hurting herself and then accidentally the townsfolk when the magic misfired trying to hide it.

that isn't the case with Stolas. In most Helluva episodes showcases his 'insensitivity' he has other characters either literally tell him what the problem is and what they don't like and what they want him to stop doing and he ignores it. That isn't being insensitive, that's ignoring other people's emotions because they get in the way of his fun and his needs. It's just selfishness.

Loo Loo Land is the most obvious contender here. Via literally says she'd rather kill herself than go to Loo Loo Land and that she isn't five anymore and Stolas just overrides her objections because he wants to plaster over the damage his cheating has done with a fun day out. Then he brings Blitz along and Blitz is even more forthright - he tries to set a very clear boundary that he's here to work (and repeats this multiple times) but Stolas ignores him every single time. This is just textbook sexual harassment, it's not 'being insensitive'. And no, Stolas stans, Stolas coercing Blitz into a sexual agreement the episode right before does not give him the right to do this.

Apology Tour is obviously the worst for this, since it's when Stolas escalates from ignoring everyone else's feelings to actively punishing Blitz for his. Also, it's hard to argue he's 'not being self aware enough at times' because that implies he doesn't realize how he comes off to other people. But Blitz literally told him at the end of last episode that he thinks of him as a pompous rich asshole. Stolas doesn't do anything to try to mitigate that behavior - if anything he turns it up to 1000% and gets pissy with Blitz for daring to point it out, causing Blitz to think of himself as 'being mean' since Stolas has gaslit and emotionally abused him so successfully he regrets even standing up for himself.

The "he's just socially unaware" excuse is wearing thinner with every episode, and at this point it should really be put out to pasture. Stolas has continued to behave the way he does even when characters are literally screaming in his face how his actions make them feel.

[purpleheartskies]

Following up on my recent post, I've been thinking about the conversation in s5e8 of Johnny recapping the avts and the boys just agreeing with everything he was saying.

Ugh... Johnny, Miguel, and Hawk all know that Robby was cheated out of the avt win the first time. They all know Miguel had cheated and Hawk had played a role in disadvantaging Robby in his fight against Miguel. Hawk and Miguel had each attacked Robby between rounds in their matches against him.

But, really. The fact that Johnny literally said that Hawk had injured Robby but then left out that Miguel had injured Robby too is so infuriating. All of them act like they're better than Robby and like Miguel and Hawk did absolutely nothing wrong to him---as if, the end of the school fight and the head shaving weren't a reaction to their behavior towards him (in Miguel's case) or people he cares about (in Hawk's case).

"There's a difference between someone consistently acting in toxic ways as a character trait [Johnny/Miguel/Hawk] and someone reacting out of character in response to abusive behavior [Robby]." (This is a quote about real people, but it applies so well to these characters.)

Johnny is a heartless pos coward who still can't even take accountability with his own son and instead abuses and emotionally neglects him, after abandoning and neglecting him his whole life. I often think of this next quote when I think of Robby's situation with Johnny.

"It can clear up a lot of confusion around childhood trauma, when you realize abandonment is not only when someone walks away. It's also when someone who is meant to protect you, allows others to hurt you."

Johnny has done this time and time again. The apartment fight had been the latest occurrence and was fucked up, and Johnny and Miguel proved that they're still Cobra Kai through and through with their continued abusive/bullying ways. In this conversation, Johnny also acted like what the other boys had done to Robby in the first avt didn't matter; that it either didn't happen (in Miguel's case) or wasn't a big deal (in Hawk's case).

It's so ridiculous that Miguel had called Robby "runner-up", as if Miguel desperately cheating to win against an injured Robby was something to be proud of and made Miguel a real champion. Miguel had also quit the next tournament. At least Robby had fought with honor in both tournaments and didn't abandon his team or girlfriend in the second one. Miguel didn't even bother to stick around and support Sam. In their phone call in s5e1, Sam had even reminded Miguel what fighting Tory meant for her, and Miguel gaslit her in response by minimizing her trauma due to Tory as just "karate". In turn, Robby had come back out to support Tory for her match, despite his own loss, mental state, and not wanting be Cobra Kai anymore, because he cared about the importance of the match to Tory.

Miguel is a narcissistic asshole. I don't care what anyone says. I'm not going to pretend like there's nothing wrong with his behavior. I mean, look at his reaction when Johnny leaves out Miguel's cheating ways.

There is seriously something wrong with how he consistently behaves about all his past actions towards Robby (and others) including those before the school fight, freaking gaslighting others to shift the blame from himself, having no regrets about his actions except "showing mercy", and having no empathy for the person he himself had put into a "fight" response situation that led to his own injury. You can't assault someone and then get upset if they fight back in the moment. Suddenly stopping, saying "I'm sorry", and expecting the other person to immediately realize that you're no longer a threat and be completely okay with you is an entitled and abusive mentality that shows a lack of self-awareness.

And then there's Hawk. Freaking moron called Robby an "asshole". Ha! Hawk became one of the top assholes of Cobra Kai, alongside Miguel and Johnny of course. In fact, in this conversation, Robby was in the presence of some of the worst assholes of Cobra Kai. Johnny and Miguel had proven with the apartment fight that they're still Cobra Kai. Hawk was still channeling that Cobra Kai energy too. Right before the trial match, he told Robby that he'll "shut [Kenny] up" in their match, but Robby reminded him to have empathy.

When Robby was in Cobra Kai, he wasn't an asshole. Hawk was purposely intimidating a younger kid, and Robby's intentions were to protect that kid from Hawk, who had (1) purposely dislocated Robby's shoulder over a taunt during a verbal back and forth which Hawk himself had started, (2) tried to gang assault his former best friend over a silly yelp review, and (3) broken his former best friend's arm for no reason at all..., just like Miguel had wanted to break Robby's arm for no reason at all in the school fight. Robby knows that just because you "ally" with Miyagi-Do doesn't mean you suddenly change or are "good guys" now, which Johnny and Miguel are proof of. Hawk had also wanted to fight Robby immediately when Hawk had seen Robby at the CK dojo for the first time since the school fight. Like, asshole, you act like a psycho, breaking people's arms on purpose for no reason at all, and then act like you're a better person than one of the persons that you had previously assaulted over a slight. Nah! Hawk's still completely lacking in self-awareness about all that. The humbling he got by Kenny in the ST trial match and by Demetri during the selections in s6e4 was well-deserved.

All three of these assholes were just sitting here acting like they'd never done anything wrong to Robby. They're so entitled and lacking in humility. (Well, now Hawk seems to have some humility but only because it was forced on him.) Robby had taken accountability with both these boys by this point, and they couldn't even do him the courtesy of taking accountability in return. Of course, Johnny, especially, is a lost cause pos, and he'll always be one. He'll continue to allow Miguel and anyone to hurt Robby whenever it benefits Johnny himself.

And for Miguel to claim that Hawk deserves to represent them, even though he's the reason Robby had to fight Miguel with an injured arm in the first avt final. Seriously? Miguel: "Duhhrr... Im'ma gaslight again. We attacked and cheated Robby out of a win, so he doesn't deserve to represent us." smh... Hawk taking part in taking away Robby's chance at a win and not admitting it canceled out his own win in the second avt and made him undeserving.

This all makes Robby being the captain for Miyagi-Do in the Sekai Taikai even more meaningful. Robby represents Miyagi-Do the most, and he's going to represent Miyagi-Do's legacy on the world stage. Of these 3 boys, he deserves that captain spot the most. For the trial match, it was basically decided that, because he was cheated out of a victory the first time and came in second the second time, that he didn't deserve to represent them in the trials. Now, for the actual Sekai Taikai itself, Hawk didn't even make it into the top 4 and was pushed out of the top 6. That was some more humbling that he deserved. And Miguel...

Let's see that replay!

This Near-Villain Victory still makes me so gleeful. Miguel was so sure that he'd win. He'd even tried to gaslight Robby that he himself needs the win more because his own future matters more.

People keep talking about how the idea had been thrown around in the writers' room that Miguel wouldn't even make it into the top 6 and would have been Tory's replacement, which I assume would have still been to create tension between him and Robby. But, people don't even consider that, even though the writers did add Miguel into the top 4, they still gave him a humiliating loss that villains get in stories. lmao

To insert Robby having a villain-trope victory against Miguel---Robby's one and only definitive win against him---as Robby's Hero's Journey heads into the climax... lmao That's some low-key vicious writing against Miguel right there that clearly indicates the role that each boy has in the story.

[kaiserkeller]

i’m so TIRED of the sexist bullshit i’ve been seeing constantly on tiktok and instagram about pattie boyd. it’s crazy to me that women that are emotionally abused and physically betrayed are vilified because THEY leave that situation. women like pattie are still, to this day, made to feel guilty that THEY didn’t do more to salvage the relationship when they weren’t the ones in the wrong. george was a piece of shit to her at the end. he neglected her, cheated on her, and gaslit her. and it’s so unfortunate that when leaving that situation she ended up moving onto a man who physically abused her in addition to his vile, manipulative, narcissistic, victim complex behaviour. ALSO, everyone always goes on and on about george and eric but they never once mention her current husband, rod whom she’s been with for 33 years!!! a real gentleman and soulmate.

[glassclosetsecrets]

Another one of my disorganized depression rambles. Just some more racing thoughts I'm trying to get out of my head.

I feel so worthless today. I'm starting to think I'm annoying and maybe that's why none of my irl friends (or boyfriend; it's a complicated situation) hang out with me or even game with me. (The other day he said to me "that's why your friends never hung out with you!; he knows words like that hurt me) I've been basically ignored all day today and it's really hitting me hard. Cant stop crying but if I dont stop crying asap he will probably be even more angry, or annoyed with me (my tears seem to trigger him I guess? He'll either get mad or annoyed when I'm crying and basically call me immature) I cant tell if I'm overthinking or I'm genuinely being gaslit.

Edit; modern abby anderson would NEVER treat her gf like this. Maybe I am being gaslight, emotionally abused? Anyways once abby noticed you're clearly looking a bit sad she would immediately panic;

"Baby? What's wrong?!"

She would literally pull you into a hug.

"You know you can talk to me about anything baby, yea?"

Even if you get choked up and cant talk right away, and you just need to get the tears out;

"Deep breaths baby. Come on, I'll do them with you. Now breathe in..... good, that's good; now hold it... and let it out."

And if you just needed a good cry to let things out, she would have zero issue lending her shoulder to cry on, rubbing soft circles on the back of your neck.

"Its okay baby... just let it out."

Once you're all calmed down she would set up a cute little movie night in the living room with plenty of pillows and blankets for you guys to cuddle close.

"I made you your favorite tea. Got some honey in there too, for my honey."

God she'd be so cheesy but endearing and understanding at the same time.

[keepingeahalive]

Charming Family Headcanons:

(This is important: NOT ALL CHARMING FAMILIES ARE RELATED!! It's like having the last name Smith. It's a common name, and they're all used as stock characters so fairytales can have children and carry on their legacies. So, Apple, Daring, and all the other characters with Prince Charming dads aren't related. Let's put this whole debate to rest, please.)

The Charming Kingdom is more of a federation. There are hundreds of small Charming kingdoms spread out across the Fairytale World. King Charming is the high king.

King Charming was the second son in his family line and thus didn’t know what his destiny was (if he had one at all). When he was destined to carry on the Charming name, he vowed to make them the greatest Charmings ever after.

His father and elder brother inherited the destiny of the legendary hero Siegfried. His relationship with his brother was very similar to Dexter and Daring's relationship.

King Charming’s name is Forthright. His wife’s name is Felicity.

Forthright has five younger siblings: Faithful, Favorite, Fastidious, Fortunate, and Fairest. His older brother is named Sigmund.

Felicity came from a Charming family close to the Sea Kingdom.

Forthright ignores Dexter for a number of reasons. He sees how he was in Dexter and resents him for it. He tries to live through Daring because he has the most potential. When he does pay attention to him, he tries to toughen Dexter up to be better, just like his father had done for him.

Darling takes more after her mother than she realizes. Felicity had once dreamed of becoming a sea captain and had a fascination with Neverland, but she had to "give that up" to follow her destiny.

All three of the Charming siblings have a complicated relationship with their parents, especially after graduation:

Daring had received their praise his whole life. When he found out he wasn’t Apple’s Prince, he was terrified of losing their love because he wasn’t their perfect little prince anymore. When he finally saw his siblings being emotionally beaten down by them, he realized all of their love had been transactional. He tried to make it work with his parents because he loved them and wasn't ready to lose their approval. But even after coming to terms with his destiny as the Beast, his parents (mostly his father) still wouldn't budge. He realizes his parents' obsession with image and status was more important than their own views on destiny.

Dexter received the most blatant abuse. Having been constantly compared to his brother, gaslit into believing he would never be good enough, and nearly embracing that sentiment, he nearly lost all of his confidence. As he started dating Raven, he regained that confidence and started to feel good about himself. When his parents finally found out about their relationship and tried to break them up, Dexter finally snapped and cut all contact with them.

Darling, being the only girl, was scrutinized over her looks and behavior every minute of every day. She got into the most fights with her parents when she was a kid, but she realized she would never change their minds. And being locked in a tower for a good chunk of her childhood didn't help either. She resorted to being sneaky, working out physically and mentally, so she could escape one day.

Forthright’s parents, siblings, and their families all live in Charming Castle with his immediate family. They all silently hate each other.

Both parents want what’s best for their family. But while Forthright seeks to maintain the family image, Felicity is genuinely looking out for her children in a misguided manner.

Forthright and Felicity’s marriage was arranged.

The Charming parents are high-paying donors to Ever After High and are Heads of the Heirs and Teacher Association.

They frequently hold parties to make political alliances. Their children are not excluded from this. Daring was 6 and Dexter and Darling were 5 when they went to their first ball.

Forthright is still secretly in love with Goldilocks.

Forthright "fell out of touch" with Pinocchio. In his younger years, he might have rekindled their friendship. But he sees the Woods too far beneath him now.

Felicity is secretly friends with Maid Marian.

Daring and Dexter became really close with Apple after she started dating Darling. Darling, Raven, and Rosabella also formed a sisterly bond. They call themselves the "Rebel Girlfriends Club."

Felicity tries to be a mediator between her husband and her children, but neither side agrees to compromise.

Lance Charming is Forthright's first cousin.

Forthright has tried to break up his children's relationships a few times. He disapproves of Rosabella because "How dare you turn my perfect son into a Beast!" He disapproves of Raven because she's "evil", and he can't have one of his children dating a villain. He doesn't disapprove of Apple, but he disapproves of her being with his daughter instead of his son.

Felicity keeps Darling on a strict diet. Darling only tasted junk food for the first time when she came to school.

In the future, Felicity would be more likely to patch things up with her children. However, Forthright has made his position clear.

[recitedemise]

I'm ranting, but it bothers me how people still have such horrible interpretarions on Gale so many months after release. This man was so deeply influenced and under Mystra's thumb, and how couldn't he be? He's a mortal man who had his goddess' attention, the mother of the very thing he felt define him, that he was so enamored with, and of course that fealty and devotion was taken advantage of. He had such a small social circle, and I wrote on this before, but it's because Mystra was who he leant on most — and she encouraged that being a said-to be-deeply jealous goddess on top of the obvious 'she's a goddess and expects devotion' aspect. He was so tied up with her, so under her yoke, that when she, through Elminster, tells him to kill himself for her forgiveness, he relents so easily. He says he deserved it. He hardly puts up a fight. He doesn't even realize how terrible this relationship was for him until, like, act 3. He was that gaslit, both by her and himself. Like, do people who rag on Gale and claim his abuse wasn't abuse understand how...emotionally compromised you have to be to give up your life so easily just because your ex-lover asked? And why on earth should that ever be an ask made on Gale? We can all agree telling an ex lover to die in order to be forgiven is screwed up and manipulative enough, but Gale being told that as a follower to a DIVINE being makes that even more stark, and yet...people just go 'well, he screwed up, so you reap what you sow.' Oh. I am so mad. Gale Dekarios, I am leading the brigade in your defense.

[altocat]

when was it implied hojo was drugging lucretia

Early versions of the original game had the drugging narrative, though they changed it later for the final product. That said, Lucrecia is still described as "conflicted" and it's very possible Hojo gaslit/emotionally manipulated her into the experiment. It wouldn't be farfetched considering he's very emotionally abusive to her in Dirge. There's a lot of room for retconning during this period within the timeline and it wouldn't surprise me if they changed it to Hojo being fully responsible. They actually seem to lean towards this idea in Rebirth as Vincent says that Lucrecia basically just did whatever Hojo told her to do.

Again, this isn't to absolve Lucrecia of her wrongdoings. I just find it very interesting that the intended objective was always to paint her in a more complex/conflicted light.

[beardedmrbean]

One of my coworkers her boyfriend gave her a black eye so she moved into the DV shelter but now she’s talking about how she’s moving in with him cus she forgave him and she’s all happy and as a friend I have to be happy to right? Like I can’t just say dump his abusive ass? I’m literally just waiting for the next time he hits her…what can I do?

Ya in my experience "dump his abusive ass" doesn't work at all, sadly.

Make sure she knows where the resources for help are, (gently) encourage her to maybe not do the moving in thing, physically and emotionally manipulative people are very good at being the way they are but making it seem like it's your fault that these things happen.

Which just keeps the other person coming back, even if they know and have acknowledged that they know they're being gaslit or otherwise manipulated.

Being there and (gently) encouraging her to get away is gonna be your best option, that and keeping an eye on her at work and offering an ear if needed.

This wasn't the first time he'd hit her I'm guessing, most people don't go to the DV shelter after round one, abuser may step up their abuse to find the line too.

I'm 100% sure there are several people that follow me and what not that will know better than I do, provided they don't encourage extreme violence at least, 'castrate him' isn't helpful even if it is fun to say since it's not going to happen.

But anyone has anything please feel free to add it here or you can send me a anon about it and I will make sure this anon gets it.

But best i have is, be available, listen to her, and (gently) remind her that there are people and places out there she can go to for help and you're also willing to help to a point.

[sepublic]

Luz and Hunter really are siblings in the sense that they were isolated, gaslit, and traumatized by the same abusive ‘parent’ so to speak, because the way Belos basically subsumes Luz as HIS responsibility, a human for him to save, is like some incredibly twisted form of adoption. Like a missionary seeking an unwilling convert, an inversion of how Eda accepted an eager Luz into her life, or the love of fathers based on Dana’s we normally see; Belos IS Luz’s abuser, too.

Luz and Hunter have been emotionally and physically scarred by Belos, even killed by him. They have their happiness, their other lives with their other friends they try to move on to... But when things get dark, they can fall back on each other to talk about that side with trust. They have each other to show the more messed up side, reflect on an exclusive trauma that went down between them. Trauma bonding isn’t exclusive to siblings of course, and Luz and Hunter aren’t LITERAL siblings. But an AU’s premise where they were raised by and survived under Belos’ abuse kind of gets it tbh.

This is why it’s so damn satisfying to see Camila break the cycle by saving Hunter, releasing Belos’ hold on his ‘nephew’ that he never gets to see again; Why it’s cathartic having Eda step up in Belos’ final moments and essentially remind him, she’s MY child, not yours; Before splattering his brains across the ground. It’s a mother’s vengeance after being made to worry and agonize helplessly over their child because of this man. Found family isn’t rooted in biology, the way Belos brings that up in his relation to Hunter, or shared species with Luz. These physical ties don’t matter in the face of actual parental love.

[foogadooga]

rant about sams

the sams fandom needs to stop harassing people (rant)

(TW: mentioned abuse, harassment, suicide, murder almost all mentions of horrible things come from the show itself not the fandom)

so to the sams fandom, stop harassing people. it’s not just shadow but I notice it with other things in the fandom. you like old moon? your treated like a monster. you don’t like lunar? why not? you point out suns bad behavior? it’s trauma, get over it.

on top of that the fan creations scare me. particularly the ship. the fact that 9/10 relationships in this fandom are sibling relationships should say why ship them is inappropriate. Lumini? Fine! Monty/moni x earth? Perfectly fine! Canon! Lunar x moon? THEIR BROTHERS! I even saw eclipse x lunar! Like why?? one of the more popular ships in this fandom is Solar x moon, and yeah their not blood related but they still consider each other siblings, and then sun x bloodmoon? Like yes, sun killing bloodmoon and bloodmoon torturing sun and his family? That’s some strong chemistry right there

Speaking of bloodmoon, the bloodmoon fans are out of control Sometimes. I love bloodmoon too, he’s probably my secon favorite character but let’s be realistic. Bloodmoon was dealt a horrid set of cards in life, he was built to hurt people and no one wanted to help, he’s been used and abused by everyone in the show, few are innocent in bloodmoons case. But will he be redeemed? Of course not! He doest’t want help anymore! Maybe before their death they had a shot but not now. hes killed tons of people and makes a game out this, he refuses to get better but the fandom still claims his innocence.

Speaking of characters that can’t do any wrong in the fandoms eyes, sun. He killed a child, gaslite and emotionally abused the old moon until moon thought the only way to make himself better was the die and hope he came back and was good enough, he threatened lunar, he pressured earth into driving and put her in very dangerous situations and probably other stuff, and yet we pass it off as trauma? When does trauma stop making it fine? It sure as hell wasn’t when moon hit sun.

And speaking of moon, the moon haters are crazy. i stand by the fact I prefer old moon, and I stand by the idea that the only reason moon was killed was because moon could do anything and the fandom would hate him for it. Im not excusing the fact moon hit sun during their fight episode, but i feel like the fandom needs to step back and realize sun was ALSO a problem. moon was getting better and was doing everything to get better and I know that doesn’t take it away, but the fandom needs to chill. Moon restraining sun after he killed bloodmoon was 100% acceptable. Sun was a danger to those around him and not listening to reason. the fandom was making all of these things like “how would sun charge, how would sun do this, or that” claims that made them more mad when no one ever said anything about those things.

Ruin too. He gets on my last nerve. I hate the way he treated bloodmoon, and then got redeemed. he was so creepy. I don’t have much to say about him but he makes me so mad.

[getvalentined]

Honestly, if SE can get me excited to see C!d they're doing something right.

I still continue to hope they've handled the "abused his spouse for 5 years because he balked when she was willing to literally burn to death in order to make sure he got to space safely and fulfilled his lifelong dream" subplot better than they did back in the OG. To put it bluntly, it was rough.

Like, C!d was absolutely right to terminate the launch to save Shera, but that's no excuse to then verbally and emotionally and psychologically abuse her for years. It's so bad by the point that the rest of the party shows up that Shera and everyone in town consider the abuse to be something she deserves for "ruining [C!d's] dream" of going to space. She was literally ready to die to help him fulfill that dream, but he couldn't let that happen and blames her for the launch not going off. By the time the team reaches R*cket Town, it's been so many years that she's come to believe she deserves to be constantly belittled and browbeaten and gaslit—and everyone in town seems to agree. It's genuinely horrible.

They obviously worked it out (after events in the main story proved that she was right all along, not because C!d realizes that maybe he should just not be abusive) because they're married properly after Meteorfall and he names his ship after her, which is the biggest manpology I've ever seen, but…I just don't know, man. Can he just not be abusive in Rebirth? At all? I think that would be fine with everyone. It's a retcon I wouldn't mind—even if it absolutely would make his fans even more insufferable, at least they wouldn't keep referring to him being abusive in the OG as "out of character" or "a retcon" when it's literally the storyline in which his character was originally introduced altogether. This is literally how players first met him in 1997. No one traveled back in time and added it to the OG to conflict with his characterization in K!ngdom Hearts, this is who he was from the beginning.

I just really hope it's better in Rebirth.

[degrassiclassiclover]

It’s time to talk about Scott’s abuse and manipulation tactics he used against Kathleen. (This is not meant to be a guide to help people recognize abuse in relationships. It is an analysis of a fictional character done by someone who is not a professional in any way.)

The first thing he did was make Kathleen trust him. He told her how much he loved her, treated her with more respect than most of the upperclassmen did, and got her extravagant gifts.

Whenever he attacked her, he apologized profusely and basically bought her forgiveness.

He refused to let her talk to any of her male classmates, further isolating her.

He gaslit and emotionally abused her, convincing her that she didn’t have any talent for things she was passionate about.

He made her feel more loved than anyone else in her life (including her parents) so that she would come back to him.

He convinced her that he needed her, making her feel guilty for wanting to leave him.

And finally, he convinced her that she had no chance of being wanted by anyone else, putting down her personality and physical appearance.

[yaminobean]

Welp, I'm doing this. It's my break and I've been a good responsible adult that's done their duty and I deserve a good old ramble.

So here goes:

We have two teenagers.

Frederick- a seventeen year old prince who's abusive family values gave him a cynical view of people. He's judgemental and quick to make sassy or snide comments about others. This has caused him to hurt someone and he's punished for it by being nearly assaulted, gaslit into believing that the abuse he's been suffering is all in his head, and had his worst fears confirmed with his family hating him and thinking him less than. His interest and mannerisms are seen as childish and naive. Readers reactions to Frederick were negative and even applauded the violence and misfortune being done to him. Even some of the characters in story mistreat him and don't think to much of how their treatment effects him.

Tomie- a fifteen year old girl that's know as the most beautiful girl in class. Every boy wants her and all the girls envy her. While she's know to be a knockout, she's also very petty, manipulative, and insults people. Her beauty catches the attention of her teacher and he takes advantage of Tomie. Tomie is smitten with him and decides to get his attention by telling him that she might be pregnant. He is enraged and so is her boyfriend. Their argument ends with Tomie being pushed by her teacher off a cliff and to her death.

In front of her class.

Instead of shock and students calling the police, The students express joy at Tomie being dead. The girls believe she got what she deserved and the boys blamed her for the teacher's murderous behavior. The teacher convinces his students to help him cut up her body and bury it in several different places.

What they have in common: These characters are victims of abuse. Tomie is being abused by her teacher and possibly who knows who else. Her behavior indicates that she isn't unfamiliar with responding to adults sexually desiring her so she acts in accordance with their responses, meaning that Tomie has been SA and is used to it. Frederick has been physically abused by bullies and mentally and emotionally abused by his father and, by extension, his brothers.

Both characters play into and believe the perceptions that people have placed on them. For Frederick, the abuse is so common that he actually now believes his family's perception of him and acts in accordance with that perception, leading to low self esteem and self destructive tendencies. Tomie is seen as just a bratty and selfish girl by most of her peers and a seductress by most of the men she interacts with. After her death, she plays up those perceptions to a thousand and becomes a monstrous force to be reckoned with. Both have their complexities ignored by their peers; people around them seem to show disdain when both these characters show that these characters are more than what they've been dictated by.

Both characters know people's expectations of them and tailor themselves to them as a way of survival. Tomie is a more extreme case. While Frederick has used his people reading skills to hide as a way of survival, Tomie uses her people reading abilities to manipulate and get others to do what she wants.

Since their both young, their handling of their skills is amateur and often leads them to mistakes.

When I realized this, it lead the old angst wheels to turn. If the cards were played right, Frederick could have possibly become Tomie or would have been a survivor of a Tomie encounter. It's interesting that in a more grim Au, we'd see Frederick, who ends up dying in the dungeon, come back as a vengeful yokai who'd most likely end the Plaid kingdom reign by coming after each Plaid family member one by one.

Hooo. Glad that's out.

I got this idea from a deep dive video someone did of Tomie and found it's discussions on victim blaming fascinating. Give it a look and maybe subscribe.

[daisy-mooon]

carol/yon-rogg… thoughts? (i’m so sorry in advance)

The way I was literally just vagueposting about them on Discord 😭 the TIMING

I've read nearly every Captain Marvel fic on Ao3, Yonvers included, and I have a lot of thoughts

Gonna start this out by saying I hope this ship never becomes canon endgame

Complicated exes

Carol would not go back to him.

She would definitely have regrets and grief, but she would not go back to him. It would he impossible for her to feel safe around him.

She could maybe be a coworker or ally if she's feeling exceptionally generous and the universe would collapse otherwise, but a proper relationship is out of the window.

Yon-Rogg projected onto her a lot. She was an amnesiac clean slate. In the deleted scene, the person he most admired was himself - what if he started admiring himself after he rescued Carol? Viewing himself as a saviour too her?

Yon-Rogg would never see the Supreme Intelligence as Carol. He's a Kree supremacist, and he knows that Carol is human. He can't ever treat her as a full equal.

The Supreme Intelligence would demote him, but I doubt it would give Yon-Rogg any consequences that actually measured up too his actions.

They definitely hate each other after.

They would both beat the shit out of each other if given the chance.

They've definitely been in a relationship and they've definitely slept together.

Carol wouldn't tell Maria everything about Yon-Rogg at first because of the guilt of having a relationship but eventually would spill the beans during the blip. It would be very hard for her to do.

Yon-Rogg would 100% be jealous over Prince Yan. Meanwhile Prince Yan would obviously care, but he'd he incredibly cold and dismissive towards him. He knows him only as the guy that destroyed Carol's life. He's not deserving of his time.

Valkyrie definitely knows about him. Again, like Yan, she doesn't think he's deserving of her time. But she wouldn't hesitate at stabbing him if he came to it.

The Kree have a kinda poly culture so what I'm saying is that Carol was sleeping with Yon-Rogg and Dar-Benn at the same time and they hated each other a lot

Carol's relationship with Dar-Benn is awful but a lot healthier in the sense that Dar-Benn had zero idea about Carol's origins.

I can definitely see Dar-Benn learning about Carol's origins after she becomes Supremor and being shocked, but deciding not to do anything to punish Yon-Rogg. Again, Kree supremacy. Any good will she has for Carol goes out the window the moment she realises she's human.

The shared blood thing... poor Carol.

I NEED people to talk about the fact that Carol literally DIED and Yon-Rogg resurrected her like??? This is how you know the MCU has gone to shit because any good writer would milk the fuck outta this

Carol's fine with blood UNTIL it is blue. Blue blood makes her incredibly squeamish.

She has a Thing against blood needles and transfusions that she refuses to explain.

Yon-Rogg would never call her Carol. Mostly Vers, maybe Captain or Danvers, but never Carol. It would mean that he accepts her as a separate person.

Very bitter over her leaving - "why isn't she grateful for all I did for her?"

Yeah the Supreme Intelligence treated him wrong... but that does not mean Carol should forgive him in anyway

I know some Yonvers fans will kill me but it's an emotionally/psychologically abusive relationship.

She literally does not have access too basic medical information about her species???

Are we gonna talk about the fact that all of this time hes wittering about fair fights Carol physically can't beat him in a fair fight because Kree are stronger than humans? And that she isn't allowed to know that she's human? So she's being gaslit into thinking her failures are her fault when they're not?

I honestly also think its important that not everything should be romantic. They aren't romantic in canon and he still abused her. It's not always a partner or family member that can abuse you - it can be anyone.

I would write more but it's 1am so im wrapping it up. Anyways, final thoughts: a very interesting and deeply unhealthy dynamic that adds a lot to Carol's character but as an endgame ship would detract from her character arc. Anyways im tired af gn squad