#—ship wank

[the-obnoxious-sibling]

First of all: if shuggy got together I assume it would be after buggy got over his feelings of inferiority

But there are people who believe buggy is not worthy of shanks, I recently saw ask asking if he was to ugly and it’s popular reason to dislike shuggy in favour of other shanks ships.

I wonder about buggy reaction if he heard people talking like this in universe? Would he be angry at shanks? He does seem like someone who would blame shanks 😭😭

oh, i shipped kkg long before it was cool, i am very familiar with anti-ship arguments that boil down to "but X is so ugly, how can you ship him with Y?!" those arguments are just as superficial now as they ever were, and i really don't care to engage with them. if your reason for shipping one pair over another is "they look better together," that's fine, you do you, that's your business. but that's not why i ship things.

that said, buggy being angry at shanks for being… what, too pretty for him? is hysterical. of course he'd blame shanks for any disparity in their looks.

(not that i think he considers them to have any such disparity… he's sensitive about his nose, sure, but that's not about its attractiveness, it's about it being weird. i think buggy thinks he's hot shit, and he's surrounded by people who agree with him.)

[hekateinhell]

psa

[frisbee-equine]

I am once again exhaustedly begging aro people on Tumblr to stop using their identity as a cudgel in what is essentially fandom drama and shipping bullshit, because for the last goddamned time, fandom having a focus on shipping is *not* amatonormativity and arophobia. It is AT BEST a symptom of societal amatonormativity and arophobia, in the same way that M/M being more prevalent than F/F can be a symptom of societal misogyny, but someone wanting two fictional characters to engage in romance and not a platonic relationship is not directly fucking oppressing you.

In fact, it waters down the actual meanings of said words and oppression. You are, again, at best making aspec people look obnoxious and like they don't have real problems if this is the most "dire" thing to complain about, at worst just spouting off homophobia in a rainbow-colored wrapper.

You know what's actually amatonormativity and arophobia? Society explicitly being organized in such a way that aspec people would be better off legally, financially, and even socially if they were in romantic relationships. That people who prefer not to be in relationships (or "worse," those who might only be interested in sexual relationships, i.e. aroallos) clearly have something wrong with them mentally or emotionally that should make them be avoided and warned about like some kind of predator.

And a healthy dash of cishetero-patriarchial misogyny on top with the implication that aspec women in particular need to "settle down" and be a Good Wife™️ to some cishet man, that their orientation is something that can and should be fixed.

It is not fucking some rando going "I think these two fictional characters should kiss and fuck nasty."

[shsl-fujoshi]

Pro-censorship fans who harass people over fiction ("antis") seem to wildly underestimate how serious a crime it is to actually simply posses even censored CSEM (real CSEM) on your computer or otherwise.

Like, pal, the person you're harassing isn't going to go to jail in the USA for having badly drawn anime jpegs, but you will actually for real go to serious adult jail if law enforcement finds out you have actual CSEM pictures-- even a single one-- on your computer to harass the people you're accusing of being "pedos" with.

[the-bar-sinister]

It's not pedophilia or inherently predatory to ship an adult woman character with an older adult male character.

It just isn't.

You can be grossed out about it all you like, and you don't have to ship it.

No one is saying you have to like age gaps.

But every time you call it "pedophilia" or "illegal" what you are doing is you are infantalizing adult women and removing them of their legal and social agency.

Calling an adult woman being shipped with an older man inherently predatory is misogynistic.

[bump-inthe-night]

Bullies are pissed off at Wrong_Organ because they’re being reprimanded for their behavior instead of rewarded. They expected the Mouthwashing developers to side with them and pat them on the back for harassing people and making the fandom toxic.

Imagine being an asshole who’s so far up your own ass that you believe the developers are “problematic” for being against you and others harassment.

[rosesradio]

*toxic in this context is an umbrella term for anything considered unhealthy in an irl relationship (examples: age gap, power imbalance, incest, general toxicity, etc.)

*elaboration in the tags is appreciated but please be respectful of others or you’ll be blocked, thank you!

[clownfessionsofficial]

"DNI if you ship ILLEGAL ships!!!!!"

Tell me you suck cop dick without telling me you suck cop dick

[cilil]

Ok, really not tryna vague or be shady, but I just gotta say: I do not and will never understand why there's so much drama around ships becoming canon or not.

Seriously, why do you care. Is your ship game that weak? Do you need a stamp of approval from other people for what you like and how you creatively express yourself? Because, sorry, but that's technically what that is and you don't need it.

C'mere. Come to auntie. Listen. I multiship like crazy and lots of weird and niche rare pairs too. Whenever any of my ships become canon that's pretty much an accident and a statistical outlier and because I just happened to like what the creators like for once. And then I usually think "oh that's nice" and go on with my madness. No getting smug and using it to put others down either!

I'm telling you this because I simply can't stress enough how much more chill and fun shipping is if you become deeply unbothered by what's canon, what the creators think and what other people approve of. Again, you need nobody's stamp of approval. And if people nag and bully you about what you like then these people suck and they have no right to demand explanations from you.

Make your case not to justify yourself to bullies - they won't be convinced anyway - but to get other people interested. Make your case through your art, your writing, your headcanons, your conversations with other fans. Make your case through passion.

And stop letting others tell you what you can and can't ship. Which goes both ways, just saying.

Ok, that's it, bye

[demonic-shadowlucifer]

I was gonna wait for the poll to close to share this, but I think I've gotten enough results on that one to move on. I've chosen to make this into a full-on survey because I don't wanna spam this blog with polls lmfao. I also included the poll question in case anyone who answered wrong the first time can change that. Once again, you don't have to be associated with either side (or even identify as 'neutralship') to take this. This is an open discussion.

Additionally, I encourage yall to reblog so others can answer too!/nf

Once again, please be civil in the reblogs. Also, rude/inflammatory answers on the final question will not be counted.

[the-obnoxious-sibling]

You would get more likes with mishanks than with shuggy. Mishanks ff is more popular. Mihawk is actually a great character but he’s a hidden gem so I guess you could miss those details about him. But if you reread you have to focus on him! He’s important to shanks just like buggy! It’s the best op ship and I love how he’s more equal and understanding to shanks than buggy

😑 it's a good thing i don't care about how many likes i get, then.

[sephirthoughts]

"i don't multiship"

"i only play pretendsies with these dollies in this one specific and rigidly defined way and refuse to imagine any other ways there might be to play pretendsies with these dollies"

[goneforawhileever]

'Sibling Coded'

People calling some relationships ‘sibling coded’ nowadays make me roll my eyes because this idea that people can't fall in love because they're good friends is strange. Like I get it if the show goes out of its way to define the two of them being nothing more than platonic besties (ItaKugi for example, the show beat that ship over the head with a shovel and shot it behind the building), but sometimes it's just two characters that are good friends that have enough in common to feel as if they could one day fall in love, which is the core principle of shipping after all, but some human in the top percentile of dickheadery will scream in your ear that they're 'sibling coded' and should NOT be shipped because it'd be WEIRD!!!! (even though they're the ones that projected a sibling archetype onto the pair, solely them.)

Another variation of this is sometimes worse lol people will see two characters with straight up undeniable romantic implication in the series but will die on the hill that they're just friends or sibling coded (We all know at least one of these)

[shsl-fujoshi]

Being an anime fan is like "my favorite ship is huge in japan and there's a ton of art of it. If I mention this ship on tumblr people will tell me to kill myself."

[holyfreaks]

sorry but the "trying to get rid of us" part.... like we were here from literally day one. you came into OUR house and decided the show was about something that it's not. also, even if we weren't here from the beginning, we deserve to be here every bit as you do. why are you trying to gatekeep fandom, when it's always been for the freaks. especially on the incest family horror show

[bump-inthe-night]

Fandom discourse itself is stupid because arguing over fictional characters, ships, and shipping labels is a waste of time. However, fandom discourse is causing very real and severe harm to people.

Adults and children are developing Moral Scrupulosity OCD, becoming extremely paranoid and anxious over whether they're "good" and constantly questioning their morality. In fandoms, people believe the fictional characters and ships they like reflect who they are and their moral alignment. They think enjoying something problematic means you’re an "evil" person. This has caused fans of problematic fiction to be labeled as "criminals" and harassed.

People are terrified of liking anything in fiction out of fear that it makes them a “horrible” person and being labeled as such by others. Persistent bullying has driven people to be doxxed and commit suicide. This moral superiority contest has ruined people’s lives because many are obsessed with proving their “goodness.”

Fiction is meant to be a fun way to explore themes and topics, not a test of morality. You’re never going to please everyone because there’s always going to be some who believe you’re “immoral” for what you like. Enjoy whatever characters and ships you want because it doesn’t dictate what kind of person you are.