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I’m right about everything always including my silly pointless long standing head canon that Malcolm Pace is gay apparently.
#tsats spoilers#riordanverse#rant tag#shout out to my old pjato fanfics in which I'd decided based on absolutely nothing that Malcolm Pace/Connor Stoll was a ship that I was into#I wrote gay Malcolm and bi Connor and technically we don't know WHAT kind of queer Malcolm is just that he had a coming out#but a win is a win#bi Connor you are still so real and true in my mind#you too Valdez#and Clarisse and Selena#fr we need more cannon sapphics#also a trans/nb Dionysus kid#but I shan't be greedy#anyway tsats is everything to me its all I ever wanted and more
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To the people saying "Jason wouldn't have jumped into tartarus for Piper, like Percy did for Annabeth" as a way to demean him. Jason, plunged into the sky from the grand canyon to catch Piper in the first few pages of the lost hero without even knowing who she was, and without the knowledge that he could fly. so he basically jumped to his death attempting to catch her. In the first few pages of his journey, he didn't mind dying to save Piper, and ironically, that's also what he did in the last few pages of his journey. Y'all just be making the most out of pocket claims abt jason fr
#If you think you're complimenting Percy by saying “Jason wouldn't have done that” no you are not. I love Percy too but cmon now#You are simply deluding yourself by trying to antagonize Jason in your head because of pettiness#He is canonically a sweetheart through and through so go cry abt it with your made up fanon version of him#But don't you dare claim it as canon#Get over the fact that both Percy and jason are good people and loyal lovers#Stop comparing them for fucks sake it's not 2012 anymore#pjo#percy jackson#pjo fandom#pjo series#pjo hoo toa#pjo hoo#jason grace#annabeth chase#piper mclean#leo valdez#frank zhang#hazel levesque
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i’m sorry but Percy being the token white boy of camp half blood will forever be hilarious to ME
#CAN YOU HEAR ME CACKLING???#TEARS STREAMING DOWN MY FACE#CANT STOP LAUGHING#HAHAHAHA#Hes pulling up pictures of Uma and Ariel to prove hes got some culture#italian nico counts too ig#percy jackson#pjo#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson the lightning thief#pjo tv#percy series#annabeth chase#pjo tv show#walker scobell#percabeth#the seven#heroes of olympus#thalia grace#grover underwood#luke castellan#jason grace#nico diangelo#hazel levesque#frank zhang#piper mclean#leo valdez
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Leo: what do you guys think the best way to die is?
Nico: firing squad
Leo: honestly I think it'd be best to just get really old then walk into the woods until you keel over
Will: yeah but do it in the late stages of dimentia
Nico, cackling: bro would be like "where am I?" then keep walking deeper into the woods
Nico, Leo, and Will, dying laughing:
Percy, terrified: what the fuck
#pjo#percy jackson#heroes of olympus#nico di angelo#hoo#trials of apollo#toa#pjo hoo toa#rrverse#riordanverse#rick riordan#leo valdez#nico x leo#leo x nico#nico di angelo x leo valdez#leo and nico#nico and leo#nico and will#will solace#will x nico x leo#will x leo x nico#will x nico#nico x will#solangelo#valdangelo#soldezangelo#tw death#percy is fourth wheeling btw#or if you think he'd be part of the poly that works too
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i need to stop being reminded that the seven are canonically very awkward around each other and hardly talk at all.
let me live in my sunshine rainbow world where they're all friends, are each other's 'found family,' where hazel, piper, and annabeth are best friends, where leo, jason, frank, and percy are like brothers, where jason and piper never existed, where hazel and piper were actually friends (that they should've been), and leo and percy are the most sarcastic and funny people you've ever met (and they make each other even funnier)!!!!!
#imo piper and hazels friendship was a missed opportunity#so was jason's entire character!!!!!!!#jason grace supremacy!!!#also leo and percy would've been SO GOOD#but no!!!#annabeth and jason would've made good friends too!!!!!#and when jason and percy got over their stupid “rivalry” they wouldve couldve shouldve been bffs#please and thank you#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson#pjo#hoo#heroes of olympus#hazel levesque#annabeth chase#jason grace#piper mclean#frank zhang#leo valdez
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Ω ~ Giving the besties matching Camp Half-Blood t-shirts cause they stay silly!! ~ Ω
Some close-ups!
#percy jackon and the olympians#heroes of olympus#percy jackson#annabeth chase#nico di angelo#leo valdez#jason grace#hazel levesque#piper mclean#frank zhang#pjo#hoo#myart#i miss them!! i miss my friends!!!#the shirts all have the symbols of their respective gods on the back but obviously you cant see them at this angle jhbvhjbfdv#i made tshirt designs for the other cabins too but uh#i spent like 11 hours on this drawing i think im just gonna stick with these campers LMAO
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The Seven’s sexualities are as followed:
Leo: hot people (pretty much everyone), he definitely had a crush on everyone on Argo 2 like once even if it was for five seconds
Piper: Who Knows At This Point, anyone can be pretty as long as they aren’t jerks
Jason: thought he was straight and is now suffering cause he’s friends with Leo and Piper (not cause he has crushes on them but because they enjoy shattering his world view by asking him if he thinks *insert random person* is hot)
Bonus for Jason: might have a crush on Leo
Percy: Annabeth, not actually but he has her so he doesn’t actually care about finding out.
Annabeth: suffering (refers to the entire paragraph in MOA where Annabeth thinks about her entire love life and the only thing good about it was like three months), but also Percy cause no way he’s ever leaving her
Hazel: a poor oppressed child who didn’t even know Not Being Straight is a thing until now, has a type for the precious ones.
Frank: honestly the straightest one of the group but at this point nobody actually knows
#None of the seven are straight#But do they actually know what they are?#No#Frank is only one I can see being straight#annabeth chase#percy jackson#percabeth#piper mclean#jason grace#leo valdez#valgrace#hazel levesque#frank zhang#frazel#everybody is too busy having a bad life to figure it out and honestly none of them care#Except for Nico#He manages to have a bad life and knows for a fact he’s gay#*skills*#pjo hoo toa#pjo#hoo#lgbtq#These are just my personal head canons#Headcanon whatever you want people
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they are best friends and siblings and i love them both so dearly. featuring piercings bc i stand strong in my belief that they would
#leo valdez#piper mclean#rachiebee art#heroes of olympus#leo valdez fanart#piper mclean fanart#annabeth chase#jason grace#percy jackson#nico di angelo#will solace#they're all on the photowall btw i didnt just add those tags for fun#might reblog w/out the overlays later#anyway its upsetting to me in toa when reyna becomes leo's “big sister” and he only gets one on screen scene with piper#what do you MEAN he has a line abt a sister and its not piper#i'm of the devout belief that the only reason leo ended up actually considering people his family after everything was BECAUSE of piper#and jason too damn word limit#reyna and leo is cute i love them as ace buddies but i wish he got like#more time to reunite w piper. idk. and i know its from apollos pov but still#anyway thats a mini rant in the tags sorry ive been thinking about it more and more
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I was reading a post about CoTG and I realized: Rick has seemingly started to write every character pairing with the exact same dynamic, and he's not good at writing that dynamic and it doesn't make sense for 90% of the characters he writes it for.
It's that very specific dynamic of one half of the pair who is almost aggressive to the other party - "teasing" them constantly/insulting them, affectionately punching/judo flipping/maiming/etc, seemingly almost always exasperated with the other - and said other party usually just accepts this treatment or blanketly views it fondly, and may generally be framed as more incompetent than their partner and a little bit of a doormat (particularly relating to being insulted/teased/etc by their partner).
We start seeing this dynamic in HoO with Percy and Annabeth, as a sort of semi-inconsistent twist on their rivals-to-friends-to-lovers dynamic from the first series. Then the dynamic pattern develops further with Leo and Calypso. Then Magnus and Alex. Then Nico and Will, particularly in TSATS. And now in CoTG, it's Percy and Annabeth again but even more in this direction.
I know people have talked about Nico and Will's relationship over the series rapidly being shoehorned into Percabeth Two™, and it's extremely apparent in TSATS that Rick's doing it on purpose (including directly quoting Percabeth scenes but minorly tweaking them to be Solangelo). But recognizing it as an overarching trend in Rick's later books honestly reminds me a lot of how Rick started trying to apply the "Percy Formula" so-to-speak to nearly every protagonist in HoO (and then try to replicate similar character archetypes with Magnus and Apollo's narrations - moreso Magnus in being jaded and sarcastic, very much trying to be first series Percy. He only sounds unique because Rick failed at making him Percy 2. Apollo is more akin to later-series Percy characterization of being goofy and incompetent. Apollo [and Zeus] even got retconned to give Apollo a more similar backstory to Percy's). Rick seems to have decided that he thinks the audience wants this specific dynamic but 10 times over, except he's not good at writing it the first time because it's a bastardization of the time he did a different thing okay.
And Rick also seems aware of that too! Because he retconned Calypso and Leo at the end of TOA, probably because he realized how absolutely awful it was reading when they were written with that dynamic of Calypso just functionally hating Leo and constantly being aggressive towards him! The only time Rick's actually made the dynamic even semi-successful was with Magnus and Alex, because it actually fits within their characters, their dynamics with each other, and their environment. Alex beheading Magnus on the regular works out fine because there are no repercussions to that in Valhalla, Magnus will be fine, so it does genuinely come off as humorous. And Alex has been effectively established to be abrasive at times but have her genuine feelings shine through regularly, and that meshes well with Magnus' jaded-and-aloof-but-quietly-very-empathetic character. And Magnus has been established to, yes, not be great at combat, particularly compared to Alex. They are the only time that flavor of dynamic in that form was effective and cohesive.
Percabeth is no longer rivals-to-friends-to-lovers badasses on equal levels with shaky pasts who finally found some form of permanence with one another. Now it's super smart doting and affectionately aggressive girlfriend and her silly goofy 50%-of-the-time incompetent boyfriend who she judo flips/pushes off cliffs/etc - but affectionately~! Solangelo is trying to riff off of the early series "Poseidon & Athena are enemies" dynamic that Percabeth had but with Apollo & Hades being "opposites" but learning to accept each other, except it ends up with Will just coming off as a huge asshole and Nico being retconned to a complete doormat about it - when prior to that those characterizations would be completely contrary to their established characters (even just from TOA!). Calypso in HoO gets retconned from her PJO characterization to being snooty and aggressive, and Leo's false persona gets merged into his just normal personality except he just also becomes a doormat but more goofy than Nico with occasional haha-dark/depression-humor! Which Nico also got. Which was also a bastardized Percy trait that got redistributed.
It's exhausting. Rick write more than one relationship dynamic you can do it I promise
#pjo#riordanverse#percy jackson#tsats#annabeth chase#nico di angelo#will solace#mcga#magnus chase#alex fierro#leo valdez#calypso pjo#analysis#< bwah i feel bad putting that many tags but it is relevant#rr crit#< i guess?#tsats crit#< that one can be here though. the other crit tag is usually for Bad Stuff ergo why i feel weird putting it. this one's just random stuff#i feel like i should tag ships too cause it is an analysis of those ship dynamics in canon but i dont want it to come off as shipbashing :(#eh fuck it i'll ship tag. disclaimer- this is not shipbashing i am just doing analysis of how rick is bad at writing this specific dynamic#i am tagging these ships for relevancy and analysis purposes only. i do not intend to be mean about them re: fanon#fierrochase#percabeth#solangelo#caleo#i do think this is good to note though with writing these dynamics - like rick's intentions vs execution vs consistent characterization#i think you could also argue Carter and Zia exhibit some traits of this dynamic? like an early form of it in Rick's writing perhaps#i havent reread it in awhile though so i will save my thoughts on it for later#long post //#forgive if this post is semi-incomprehensible it was a quick late night rambly thing
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As much as I dislike caleo, calypso herself is not an inherently bad character (only talking about pjo, if we're talking about the accurate calypso from Greek myths then I'm tying up my hair and putting my hands up she's awful there)
but the thing is that TOA caleo ruined any development that she could have had
You had a boy who never felt loved and a girl who always fell in love with people that couldn't stay and threw them together? It's a good ship in concept
but then you get to the plot holes and stuff
like calypso being 6000+ years old and Leo being 16
and calypso being insanely rude and demeaning to Leo throughout TOA
it's just not a good ship and I'm sorry because it could've been cute it really could've but it's not
i really really hope that rick realizes that caleo isn't a good or healthy relationship bc it would be better for both calypso and Leo to break up
imagine calypso, someone who has been cursed to never find true love (JUST LIKE REYNA!) finally getting in the mindset that she doesn't need a guy to be happy that she can live her own life without relying on romance
imagine calypso joining the hunters of artemis. would that not be the most perfect thing for her character?
and Leo, who has never found someone who stays with him and loves him for who he is, going on a mission (similar to Orpheus and Eurydice) and bringing Jason back to life and them living together
it's my silly valgrace obsessed brain but seriously??? THIS WOULD BE SO GOOD
And the fanfic writers that I know have written "sequels" like this and did it so perfectly prove that this COULD be done
please Rick I am begging you make my tragic gays happen PLEASEEE
#valgrace#Shout to ottpop and jasegrace for making those amazing fics#Seriously I KNOW it can be done and I've SEEN it be done#Rick I am begging you#I will give you all of my rubber ducks make valgrace canon please#ALSO CALYPSO JOING THE HUNTERS!!#I LOVE IT TOO MUCH I FEAR#calypso#leo valdez#jason grace
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I think I found the phrase that perfectly sums up one of my favorite ships:
#it coul be platonic too#i just love them so much#they're like#very silly#my two favorite boys#you wanna hear a joke?#10+10 and 11+11 have the same results#maybe you're asking why#cause 10+10 is 20#and 11+11 is twenty too#did you get it?#i'm sorry#im slowly going insane#I haven't slept well for 3 weeks#valdangelo#leo valdez#nico di angelo#heroes of olympus#pjo hoo toa#riordanverse
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me after single handedly carrying the riordanverse fandom
#prue speaks ੈ✩‧₊˚#xoxochb#you know it’s true too#I’m like the only active writer left 😭#like me and maybe 3 other writers#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo series#pjo fandom#percy jackson#pjo#percy series#percy jackson x reader#percy jackson x you#jason grace x you#jason grace x reader#leo valdez x you#leo valdez x reader#luke castellan x reader#luke castellan x you#connor stoll x reader
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I find it ironic that the fandom hates Jason for "having no personality" but Will solace was at his peak popularity in the fandom during the time BOO was out, that was before his personality was even properly established in TOA. Will's personality was 90% fanon before TOA was out, because the fandom cared enough to give him one even when Rick didn't establish it well up until later on.
But nobody cared enough to give Jason a fanon personality to make up for his canon absence, simply because they weren't interested and wrote him off the moment he was written as Percy's rival.
So if you put it that way, the majority of the fandom just hates Jason because he's Percy's equal. Which is why literally no one in the fandom wants jason to be loved or recognised, they just downplay him every chance they get, because he is seen as Percy's competitor and wants him to be bashed, so that Percy always has the spotlight, that's why the fandom always maintains the reputation of Jason's character as a "loser knockoff percy" and dont bother giving him a fanon one, Because they want jason's existence to be used as a punching bag to uplift Percy's achievements. That's what I take away from observing all the Jason slander lately.
The majority of the reasoning for his slander almost ALWAYS includes Percy in it, as far as I've seen.
There are many characters that many fandoms popularize and love even if they don't have proper personalities in canon or even when they are just characters in passing. And i don't see why jason is the only exception to that treatment
Saying that you hate Jason because you are salty that he's Percy's rival is basically like saying you hate him because he exists, which sounds ridiculous lol.
This is basically like a "if they wanted to, they would" type of situation, Jason is just unfortunate that he didn't get the fandom's love for anyone to give him any fun fanon personality at all
It's sad considering the possibility that Jason would've been so loved if he were just a mere side character, that way people wouldn't have hated him for "rivalling" Percy.
I guarantee you half the hate he got would've never existed in the first place if he were just some insignificant character in the series, because the fandom would've effortlessly shoehorned a personality of their own onto him and showered him with love instead of complaining about it.
Jason has LOTS of fanon potential, the fandom just don't want to utilise it :/
#People aren't obligated to like jason ofc so don't take this post the wrong way. You're valid if you don't vibe w him#But I'm just sayin’🤷🏻♀️#if will can be the fandom's sweetheart within a few pages without any proper character establishing. Then why can't jason?#i love Will too btw but i just see the drastic difference in how they're both treated#Many fandoms give characters their own personality if they don't like it instead of complaining about it#This fandom just doesn't want to like jason#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackson#pjo hoo#pjo series#jason grace#pjo hoo toa#annabeth chase#piper mclean#leo valdez#frank zhang#hazel levesque
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jason going through "the phases" at chb
he has like an emo/scene kid phase (real) for a short amount of time then the next week he has kandi cuff bracelets all over his arms (leo taught him how to make em)
regular childhood shit but the permission to be awkward and fun is wild and new and exciting to him
he dyes his hair on impulse and it looks horrible and patchy since he's never done it before and has piper help him get it out in cabin 10
he has the right to be cringe guys he didn't get a childhood
#and he dyed his hair like vibrant pink too#the jokes from leo never end#him getting excited over his interests and healing is my entire life#jason grace#hoo#pjo#heroes of olympus#leo valdez#piper mclean#valgrace#kinda#not outright but like#bracelet making with your bf is pretty gay#the lost trio#also on the theme of pretty gay: gay art of wound tending#looking at you will solace#and your emo bf
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There's something just so beautiful about a character falling in love with their best friend who is sadly not into them and already had their partner.
#I'm not saying this's about Valgrace but it is and you can't do anything about it#like the pain?? the angst??? I fucking love this#and the fact that Piper is also Leo's friend and he can't go overboard#so there'll be this slow burn and the aching that would tear his soul to shreds#lol wtf is wrong with me#leo valdez#jason grace#valgrace#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson and the olympians#pjo#heroes of olympus#percy jackson and the heroes of olympus#hoo#I'm back to say this kinda applies on percico too#I know they are not best friends more like skeptical allies but yknow Nico loving Percy while Percy is with Annabeth sooo#nico di angelo#percy jackson#percico#pernico#nicercy
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Thinking about the lost trio’s mortal parents
Thinking about Esperanza and Beryl both being clear-sighted (it’s said that Beryl knew who Zeus was, both times, and Esperanza specifically talked to Leo about his powers and seemed to know who Hera was).
Thinking about Beryl, who was famous and had so much and who did everything to stay in the public eye. Who would have given it all, including sacrificing her own kids, to get Zeus’ attention back. Who only ever wanted Zeus for herself and never for her children. Who named Jason to placate Juno’s anger and ultimately gave up Jason to her. Who even in death remained bitter and blamed Thalia running away for her own choices and her death, saying she left when Beryl needed her the most, despite the fact that Thalia was nine and severely neglected and thought Beryl had killed her brother and an adult’s choices should never have been her responsibility to begin with. Beryl blamed it all on Olympus and showed no regret for her actions. Who thought she could just neglect both of her children and abandon her two year old with no consequences and that Jason would still join her. Who only cared about Jason once he was a hero and a warrior, and even then only cared for him as a tool of revenge she could use against the gods.
Thinking about Esperanza, who had nothing. Who was smart and skilled and barely scraping by despite her degree. Who would have given everything to keep her son safe. Who had a son prophecied to be a hero and tried to look the Fates in the eye and say no, because he was her son first and destined for bigger things second. Who banned Hera, the queen of the gods, from their apartment because the gods couldn’t have Leo, not yet, not when he was still so young. Who still tried to prepare Leo, with everything she had, because she knew she couldn’t keep him from his fate in the long run, but also knew there were at least tools she could give him that would help. Who, despite knowing that a god had once loved her, only wanted Hephaestus as a father for Leo, never as a partner for herself. Who only ever worried about the ways she could fail Leo, never about him failing her. Who was happiest around her son and loved him more than her own life. Who, even in death, never could have blamed Leo.
Thinking about Tristan, who is in some ways a mirror to both Beryl and Esperanza. Tristan grew up with nothing and eventually, as an adult, he suddenly had everything, except the things that really mattered to him. He couldn’t keep Aphrodite and never fell in love again after her. Tristan can’t see through the Mist, but he had his heart shattered by the mythological world anyway, even without seeing. He couldn’t save his father because at the time he didn’t have the money to pay for the treatment, he only became famous after.
His relationship with his daughter is really strained. He’s probably terrified of losing Piper like he lost his dad and Piper’s mom. Tristan works and works and works because he thinks if they just have enough he can keep Piper safe (because even if he couldn’t have kept her mom that way, enough money absolutely could have saved his dad), but that makes him unable to give Piper his attention, which is what she needs the most. Hell, he thinks he’s protecting her by keeping her away from his celebrity nonsense, and in a way he sort of is, but it’s not what Piper wants.
Thinking about Tristan seeing through the Mist in TLH and breaking. Thinking about Tristan finally seeing Piper, and her having to give up the one thing she’s wanted all this time and make him look away again because it shatters him.
Esperanza and Beryl could both see their children for who they were, one for the better, the other for the worse. Tristan can never see Piper for who she truly is. We’ve seen how it would destroy him if he did.
Thinking about Tristan losing everything until the only thing he has left to give Piper is his attention—and that’s enough. (I still wish that had been a choice on his part after realizing that’s what Piper wants and needs instead of being forced on him, but I digress.)
Tristan could have been more like Beryl. Their stories are decently similar. But even though he can never fully see Piper for who she is, and even though it took him longer than it should have, when his daughter needed him most, he turned around and learned to be more like Esperanza.
#lost trio#the lost hero#heroes of Olympus#esperanza valdez#beryl grace#tristan mclean#jason grace#leo valdez#piper mclean#hoo#ToA#trials of Apollo#tlh#the lost trio#Thalia Grace#you know I’m in deep when I start writing character analysis on people’s parents lol#this was a Beryl Esperanza post originally and then it somehow spiraled into a Tristan character analysis#Anyway. Esperanza loved Leo more than her life. Tristan loves Piper but is too preoccupied with protecting her to stop & ask what she needs#Beryl can bite me#anti Beryl Grace#character analysis#long post
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