#you can call yourself a lesbian you can call yourself bi you can call yourself whatever you want in your head
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the way some of you clearly think bisexuals don't experience actual attraction and feelings for people, but rather decide ahead of time if they want a man or a woman this time and then just go and pick whoever comes into their line of sight next is so obvious and definitely makes me think you all don't need to speak on things you don't know about
#if you aren't bi I realllly don't want to hear you talking about us or our experiences#because it's just gonna be stereotypes or bitterness from a bi woman who upset you#I know damn well I would not get away with saying some of the shit that you guys do if it was about lesbians instead of bi women#and I don't want to#I shouldn't be able to get away with that!#but some of you absolutely are completely prejudiced and I feel like no one takes that seriously#if you use the term 'bihet' this is about you btw#gonna call out 'bi lesbians' because 'that's not how sexuality works!! you're one or the other!!' but then turn around and say it's okay as#long as it's to insult us??#doesn't add up.#so if you aren't bi go ahead and don't bother talking about bi people#you don't understand how bisexuality works#you don't understand how relationships in general work#('you could just get over your attraction to women and eventually find a man you'd be happy with so you aren't actually oppressed!')#(like okay. you could just never act on your attraction and not tell anyone. just like you want us to do. oh wait? sound familiar? yeah.)#'you could lie about your sexuality and force yourself to only date men' is not an argument you want to be making and I can't believe you#haven't pieced that together. because that exact same thing can be said about anyone
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Being Bisexual is sooo cool we can be any gender and be attracted to any gender any amount, we lovvvvve women and nonbinary people and men and even if we only ever date or fuck one of those we are still Bisexual. We aren't "half straight, half gay", because that's not how sexuality works. Sometimes it feels like we don't have our own community but tbh that's because, the Gay community? We in there. The Lesbian community? We in there. Trans community??? We in there!!!!!!!!!!!! Yippee!!!!!
#bisexual#happy pride month i figured i get to make at least one bi post#as a bi person i still feel very shunted to the side sometimes lol#like it still feels...esp for women (because patriarchy world) that sayong your bi means you're saying that you like Men the most lol#altho on the reverse i think plenty of bi men r also treated like staright dudes ''trying to be cool'' which has it;s own origins#and also like. if ur lesbian or gay that comes with a Community and a history and everything and being Bi is like. oh you're there too lol?#even tho Bi people have ALWAYS been in both the Gay and Lesbian communities! it's just more obvious nowadays because in the past...#being openly ANYTHING was hard and obviously it was easier for cis bisexuals to like. pretend to be straight. or if they couldnt...#they could pretend to be gay or lesbian! like we had to be somewhere#and not everybody has the strength and fortitude to b openly Bi when both straights and queers will give you shit for it#anyway.#everything Gay or Lesbian is also Bi you are not missing out by being Bisexual. you can call yourself butch and femme you#can be a bear or a twink you can worship femininity worship masculinity do drag go to lesbian bars ETC#and to the youngsters who feel like they have to call themselves Pansexual because they r nonbinary or date trans people: you do not#Bi people are ALSO in the trans community! WE'RE EVERYWHERE#BI WORLD NO ESCAPE#YIPPEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!#-_-#pol
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hey if any of u were questioning my stance on almost any queer discourse my stance is that i have better things to do.
#'toothpaste flag vs gay flag' 'who can reclaim this slur'#'can you call yourself queer' 'are there bi lesbians' 'can men be lesbians' 'if someone is cishet and ace can they actully consider#themself part of the lgbt community'#'is the label pansexual biphobic' i genuinely do not care abt any of this
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This will probably get looks from performative and ultimately harmful non-transfems despite my being transfem but-
Some y'alls only interaction with feminist history and theories, radical feminism regardless of its intersectionality and really any feminism deeper and louder and meaner than blatant choice feminism like the barbie movie and whatever TF taylor swift thinks shes got going on is through your occasional and short interactions with terfs and it shows. You call vagina art terfy and it fucking isnt. Its feminist art. Your brainrot is making you a fucking mra. The fact y'all think talking about the man vs bear situation is about/started/ran by terfs (and encouraged some really questionable other transfems shitting on it despite it clearly just being about women's safety and yes all men, not transphobia.), everything from questioning wether certain groups belong in our community to thinking a word is a slur or having a lesbian icon (I have sources don't test me) or not to not liking a certain band has been called "terf rhetoric". I'm all for us Transmascs talking about how terfs affect us cause they absolutely do and their harm to the transmasc community can not be understated but like.... Y'all are not allowed to call Jack shit terf rhetoric anymore. Like nothing. You don't know what it means, you litterally call transmedicalism and sysmedicalism terf rhetoric. Do you mean exclusionist? Say exclusionist. Terfs are not the end all be all hate group. They have a very specific complex mindset that affects so many people in specific ways. Someone hating Neopronouns is not fucking terf rhetoric. It's nbphobia. Holy fuck. Learn what words mean.
(intersectional trans radfems exist, radical feminism isn't terfs and swerfs and historical radfems would laugh in their faces for their idiocy)
#clover speaks#clover vents#hating bi lesbians is not terf rhetoric vagina art is not terf rhetoric medical sexism is not a terf topic#everytime you call some form or bigotry or some form of deep cut feminism you dont know shit about terf rhetoric#another trans person loses their wings#terfs harm people via certain avenues in specific ways#you've turned it into a fucking meaningless buzzword to decribe everything from opinions you dont like to actual bigotry#its basically gotten the exclusionist radical regressive gatekeep gaslight terreatmemt#words that mean very specific real things but gets so overused it means fuck all now#if your explanation for why something is supposed terf rhetoric is just something something splitting the community#something something exclusionary something something heard one say it once then you dont have the authority to fucking talk about it#I've been in the trenches fighting terfs and learning about their veiws and mindsets to accurately fight and rehabilite them#the hell they've actively put me and many other trans people through can not be understated#one called you a name one sent you a hate anon and sudeenly your the master of knowledge? gtfo#the specifics and deep rooted hate and history of that group is serious and every time you call some fucking#meaningless community discourse about if some inane insult is a slur like stupid or freak and call it terf rhetoric#you give terfs more fog to hide in you obscure the enemy that much more#you make it harder to find real actual terfs and their nazi friends when you call a fucking antikin a terf for being antikin#stop comparing other groups to terfs and heres a quick ajd easy way to identify if something is actually fucking terf rhetoric#dose the topic specifically talk about terfs or terfism or transmysogny/transandrophobia in the context of exclusionary radical feminism?#if the answer is yes then their might KEY WORD MIGHT be terf rhetoric involved.#if the answer is no then its not fucking terf rhetoric plain and fucking simple#find another buzzword milo because transmedicalism by definition cant BE FUCKING TRANS EXCLUSIONARY RADICAL FEMINIST RHETORIC#God this fucking community sometimes is so fucking exhausting#reminding me yet again that its mostly young and mostly people who lose their minds when i bring up terfs and racism#and yes you perisex afab trans person who thinks this isnt about you and the random shit youve false flagged as terfy#this is about you and your misusage of a serious allegation and association to falsely claim some terminally online take is terfy#You just make me hold my head in my hands and sigh really loud and try not to send you to the shadow realm#Not everything an alleged terf believes makes something terfism or terfy#please actually learn what words mean before you use them and make an ass of yourself called some tranfem exclusionist a fucking terf psyop
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I hate gays who are transphobic. I hate gays who say 'LGB without the T.' I hate gays who call transpeople fetishists and groomers. I hate gays who misgender and deadname trans and non-binary folk. I hate gays who perpetuate lies like how trans people are "forcing" gay and straight people to date them. I hate gays who perpetuate transphobia in the vague hope that transphobic conservatives will stop being anti-gay and spare them from violence. I hate gays who feed the face-eating leopards (i.e conservatives). I hate gays working with bigots who're trying to force transpeople back into the closet.
#i will never understand how you can call yourself gay/lesbian/bisexual and end up being transphobic#there really are gay and bi people who HATE trans folk with a passion#they sound like conservatives when they post things like transwomen are “male fetishists” pretending to women#like. barf#we're either together as a community or we set ourselves up to be divided and conquered#anti gender critical#anti TERF#anti transphobia#there is no LGB without the T
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lol so many bi radfems argue like reactionary manipulative queerio tras and liberals when they're called out for homophobia or told of their privilege ://
#the bihet victim complex#lmao saying someone is calling bisexuals evil for calling out your denial and downplaying of your privilege/homophobia come on#bi women are obsessed with saying liking men is oppression#treating it like it's homosexuality itself#and that gays are oppressing them for it#tra mental gymnastics in all bi communities aside from febfems which many also dislike#it's amazing the community obsessed with converting gay people or showing/telling men lesbians aren't real and can be fixed#has such a victim complex#such narcissism#bisexuals force gay people to always centre and talk about their osa and treat it like oppression#they act like it's an EXTRA struggle over gay people#what other community gets away w this shit#osa don't see lesbian as people#bi women are especially horrible to lesbians despite being ssa so like stop acting like we need to bond w homophobes#“lesbians are oppressing me by assuming I won't be serious about women”#it's a pattern and not our fault your community sucks. that you're so male centric male obsessed homophobic/misogynist and prefer privilege#you admit most bi women prefer men and rarely prefer women#and no “settling” for women bc men are shit and annoy you isn't preferring women#it's exhausting hearing the most homophobic women complain about homophobia like LOOK IN THE MIRROR you hate homosexuals yourself
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i hate to be chronically online but please dni if you are a space for bi lesbians or whatever they call themselves
#'erm but bi lesbian' No youre like 14 and you need to wash the dishes and do your summer homework.#its grossly invalidating to ME to have to listen to a bunch of people (mostly non lesbians) tell ME (a nonbinary person) what labels to use#and where i do and dont belong#you know what we're gonna do?#not bring back old discourse is what we're gonna do#especially with the new wave of twitter users#that's what we're not gonna do.#if you even remotely gaf about nonbinary people and NOT POLICING OUR SPACES then you will fuck off with that shit#i am a LESBIAN and i am NONBINARY and both of these things can be inherently true and not conflict!!!!!!#and not demand!!!! a thousand new microlabels!!!!!! THANK YOU#if u wanna be lesbian call urself a lesbian#if u wanna be bi call urself bi#if you wanna be nonbinary u can be bi u can be a lesbian u can be gay etc u can be ANYTHING U WANT#and you dont have to constantly reinvent new labels for yourself#you can just. Exist!!#without ANYONE telling you that you dont actually belong in a community#bc you DO. and it is NOBODYS CHOICE whether you get to or not.#especially not some online idiot#also notice how this shit only happens to lesbians#its never 'bi gays'#'pan gays'#i saw a post thats like 'bi lesbians and ace lesbians exist!'#so okay now youre just hellbent on policing people and telling them where they can and cant go.#idk if you find lesbian (as a label) restrictive based on your personal experiences#then thats your problem and your journey#and if you dont find the lesbian label restrictive despite feeling like youre not 'technically a lesbian' or 'you dont belong'#then guess what. youre still lesbian! congrats!#and it is nobodys right to tell you where you do and dont belong!#rant over. ty#personal
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hi! this is unrelated to the situationship but i’ve been going through a crisis about whether i’m bi or a lesbian for like six months now lmao and iirc i think you went through something similar once, so i was just wondering if you had any tips or advice about how you figured it out? tysm!
hiii i did ! i went thru this crisis like 3 times b4 i figured out i was bi, it can genuinely rly be difficult to figure it out it :)
i'd say keep in mind that it's not important to have a label rn - just keep urself open to exploring new feelings ! but also if u want to figure it out faster, spending more time w both men and women - esp those u think you might find more attractive - might help ! for me it was having guy friends, going to clubs, dating, etc, but it can truly be anything :) since starting a hinge profile i've been seeing quite a few men that i found super pretty which confirmed things even further for me (if you go down this route remember that dating app algorithms take a while to adjust)
also remember that ur standards for men may be different, and you may have an intense preference for women which wouldn't make you any less bi ! similarly, if you genuinely cannot imagine a future or conceive of any romantic/sexual attraction between u and a man, then you may be a lesbian ! the point is that u can date ppl and find out !! ♡ also labels can change as u learn abt urself over time so it's all good if you can't land on one definitive label rn forever, it takes time and life reveals new things to us all the time 🩷
while i like knowing that men are like...within my dating pool now, since realising i'm bi basically nothing has changed for me bc i still find women so so much more attractive, so it's good to remember there truly is no rush ! take ur time experiment have fun x
#also looking at pretty men on pinterest did it for me somehow like 😭 its rare that i find myself attracted to a man#but once in a blue moon . yeahhh#one of the reasons why i wanted to figure out a label faster was bc i felt bad not being in either community decisively#after talking to bi ppl and lesbians from diff walks of life i can confidently say like 90% of ppl do not care#if you might only be attracted to women and call yourself bi for the convenice while figuring it out its rly not harming anyone#ppl telling me to read the lesbian manifesto when i was younger halted the speed at which i figured stuff out sm#i would not recommend . but i do suggest reading up on comphet and considering whether ur experiencing it!!#the best way to know though imo is to go thru the mortifying ordeal of talking to more men#also if sex is a part of it for u dont be afraid of exploring the topic more! reading or talking abt it can be super helpful !!#like for me i have a very strong genital preference against male genetalia and it felt rly weird to talk abt it but actually like#sitting w my mostly bi friends and actually talking abt it and doing more research into it made me feel more#secure abt how i felt :) online communities can be rly good for this actually !#also thank u for sending this i enjoyed not thinking abt the situationship 😭#hope u figure stuff out anon! and if not i hope u have lots of fun!!! ♡#asks#anon
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if you think people aren't entitled to the personal autonomy to call themselves whatever they want and be attracted to whomever they want regardless of whatever they choose to call themselves, then-
Follow us if you want, I guess! I don't actually care what you do or if you disagree with us and I'm not gonna harass you about it. I'm not gonna block you over it either, unless you flood our mentions or askbox with vitriol, I suppose. Another follow is another follow and I'm not a cop or your mom. But don't expect us to acknowledge you or follow you back
#seriously like#these fucking people#they sound like terfs#one step away from “if you think men can be women stay the fuck away from me!”#you can call yourself whatever you want#and no one's personal choice of how to identify is stopping you from doing that#anyway#we just unfollowed someone for reblogging this#but we're not going to go harassing them or calling them out for it#because ultimately bothering random individual internet users about their personal beliefs does no one any good#(and is also just mean)#bi lesbian discourse
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this may be a controversial opinion but if you're still exploring your identity, some labels should be put on hold until your understanding of yourself is a little more concrete
#butch and masc aren't interchangeable and the difference does matter#butch is a lifestyle. its not just a way that you perceive the world its also how the world perceives YOU#and idk if butch is lesbian specific but it's definitely weird to call yourself butch when your partner is either a cis man OR not out yet#if you've got a bf who MAYBE is a little curious about his gender lbr you're probably not a lesbian so dont pull 'i MIGHT be a lesbian!!1!'#and most importantly. being uncomfortable with new information when you're corrected about a misunderstanding is a GOOD THING#being told 'hey there's a difference between butch and masc' and then BARELY doing research to try and defend yourself is just obnoxious#certified protectcosette original#discourse#i've had issues with this same person trying to tell me (a lesbian) that men can be lesbians#and then when i told them to stay in their lane bc theyre bi they said they might actually be a lesbian#if ur ONLY ever saying 'actually i might be a lesbian' when someone calls you in for not staying in ur lane? then you suck. end of story.
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i used to be v boy crazy, then accepted my bisexuality, thought i was a lesbian, then thought i was straight again and now think i’m a lesbian. it’s a fucking mess. i’m at the point now where i realized my attraction to men is just unattainable or celebrity men and that i’m almost positive i would never want to have sex with them. i’m nervous to come to terms with being a lesbian bc i’ve twitched up so much but it’s something that just feels so authentic and natural and just !!! me !!!
#this blog is about lesbian validation but i will say anon#its okay if your label changes sometimes or all the time or you dont fully identify with any#you can always try on a label to see how it feels#if it doesnt feel right you can take it off#human experiences dont always fit into the labels our language invents to describe our experiences#and putting so much pressure on yourself to get the label right can make things even harder sometimes#you can call yourself a lesbian you can call yourself bi you can call yourself whatever you want in your head#and that can be just for you and no one else for as long as you want#if the lesbian label is right for you giving yourself space to breathe in it is important#and if it feels authentic and natural to be a lesbian then congrats my love! you are a lesbian!
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I doubt they would survive a day in their own communities. Like, have y’all ever interacted with LGBTQ+ people IRL?? It’s really cool. Genuinely was a wonderful experience for me. Met someone who went by it/its pronouns because it saw that as the only way to distance itself from the demand to fit into boxes implanted on it by humanity. Met someone who goes by any pronouns and faer does that for the exact same reason as the person above. He and it were besties, hearing their discussions on gender was really fucking cool. Made me question my gender, I found out I’m cis but it was still a good experience. More relevant to this post, you’ve also got a pack of wild lesbians who congregated once while I was volunteering: me the young’un (cis, she/her, femme lesbian, has sensory issues with penetration of any kind but isn’t ace), an elder lesbian (bacla, she/he/siya (no preference but one of those) likes penetrative and non-penetrative sex), and a lesbian roughly between our ages (trans, she/her, about 4 months into socially transitioning, asexual). We’re just...talking about being lesbians and our differing experiences. It’s great, we taught each other a lot in the day we knew each other! Siya helped teach me about ways to explore myself and my preferences without triggering any averse reactions, I helped the trans lesbian vibe with wanting to be more gender conforming and traditionally ‘feminine’ (teaching trans femmes the joys of spinning around in frilly dresses is so nice), and she helped our elder get caught up with modern gay news. We left our stations and I’ve never seen either of them again, but this shit is so fun and so much better than arguing with randos about whether or not they ‘count’ as a lesbian. Imagine if I did what tiktok does and spent that whole time saying that our elder couldn’t be a lesbian because siya doesn’t strictly identify as a femme-aligned person or that the trans lesbian was teaching him about the ‘wrong’ gay news because most of it involved ‘bad rep’. Say what you want about cheesy cishet friendly romcom fodder, but seeing my elder beam at the idea that non-LGBTQ+ people cared about our stories on a large scale made that mediocre movie worth existing. IDK, people need to get involved in their communities (online or offline) and meet gay people outside of their immediate bubble.
TLDR; I’m 90% sure people involved in gay discourse have never actually spent time around gay people outside of their immediate bubble and that makes me sad. Talk to people y’all, it’s great. 10/10, would recommend.
people on tiktok would never survive a day on tumblr
#I do LGBTQ+ specific volunteer work in my area so it's kinda part of my job that I know so many people#it's also part of my job that I just kinda...roll with the punches in terms of people's identities#because IDK these people and they know their identities more than me#like 'oh you're a trans dude and you're bi and you use they/he/she pronouns and you let your kids call you mom?' coolio#here have a hat we just got it in I hope you stay warm friend#like?? this is so much better than just being rude to strangers on the internet??#I get to help my community AND learn more about sexuality + gender#this is an absolute win#I am very annoyed with this person on tiktok but more than anything I'm sad for them#imagine sticking yourself into a world where people have to fit into such specific boxes in order to be considered 'normal'#or whatever this person is implying because oh my gosh that's so sad#go meet people! go expand your ideas on gender and sexuality and other aspects of identity!#I want to shake them like GO INTO THE WORLD THE WORLD IS SUCH A COOL PLACE#you don't even need to go offline just go into different communities online and get out of your immediate bubble#'he/they lesbian' ok! I'm a she/her lesbian! Are we just sharing our pronouns with our sexualities now?#and if he identifies as such then sure he can have f*ggot tattooed on him! I hope it healed well!#I hope that they feel a sense of power from that and that it makes them happy#I hope that everyone who uses slurs in a reclamatory manner gains their power back!#Just because I prefer not to doesn't make those who do any less valid!#Hence why I haven't been using the word 'queer' that often I just don't like using it#but like...why would do people think I would be pissed at people who do use it frequently? People in discourse are WEIRD#IDK I just want this person to meet more people and I hope they get the chance to do so#because a lot of baby gays start off like this until they start meeting people#this turned into a rant lol#IDK I think I just feel passionately about the wonders of human connection
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o yeah if you're bisexual but you hate all (and feel no Attraction to non fictional) men , you're probably not bisexual. just so you're aware
#not trying to police labels but#if you are attracted to any gender BUT men you are either straight man or a lesbian. or just sapphic in some way.#dont call yourself bisexual if youre not??#discourse#lets see if this one gets me paragraphs in my ask box HFKDNFS#also not hating on you if you do feel this way im not saying you gotta love men#but if you dont like men why would you call yourself bi lmaoo#also all sexualities can be inclusive to enby ppl so before yall come at me saying im transphobic or smth#which would be dumb anyways bc im genderfluid BAHAJDJKGBF#anyways im rambling
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This is not a perfect list; gender and orientation can be much more nuanced than we can represent in a tumblr poll. For instance, you can be aromantic and bi, or you can be not really cis but not consider yourself trans. Please choose the answer that is the closest, and you're welcome to clarify in the tags.
Cis means you identify as the gender you were assigned at birth.
Trans is an umbrella term that means you do not identify with your assigned gender, and includes all genders that are not cis man or cis woman. this includes nonbinary, genderfluid, etc.
Mspec stands for multiple-spectrum and is an umbrella term for anyone who likes more than one gender. this includes bi, pan, omni, poly(sexual/romantic, not referring to polygamous or polyamorous), and many others.
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Sometimes I just want to sit down and say, like… Gay men, lesbian women, and straight people. You could wake up tomorrow and discover you’re actually bi.
Tomorrow you could meet someone of the sex you do not think you are attracted to and go “oh fuck”. There is no rule— nothing—that says that could not happen to you at any moment.
“I’ve lived forty years without—” so?
“I can just tell I’m—” how?
Now, we can get into the conversation of how these labels aren’t actually law, and that you can be a lesbian even if there was that one guy and you can be a straight guy if there were those two guys in college and etc.
And that’s totally true and valid and we should normalize that. But that’s another post.
My point for this post is that, yes, you are one strange meeting away from being bisexual. It will probably never happen. But you can never say with 100% certainty that it won’t happen.
But that doesn’t mean every gay, lesbian, and straight person should start calling themselves bisexual just in case. That would be a completely absurd thing to expect.
Can you imagine if we go around to gay men and were like “but how do you know you’ll never be attracted to a woman?” Imagine if we did it to straight people? The idea you have to call yourself Bi just in case?
This is easy to understand. So why is it so hard for people to understand when it comes to asexual and aromantic people?
Like… I suppose I could wake up tomorrow and catch some feels for someone. I… doubt it. But it could happen.
But I’ve been alive 22 years and it hasn’t happened yet. So why should I expect it? Why should I spend time thinking about it? Why should I label myself based on that slim possibility?
The number of straight people who have said to me “well you never know” or “maybe you just haven’t met the right person” or whatever. Can you all IMAGINE what they would say to me if I threw it back?
“Oh, sally, you don’t like any women yet but you never know. Maybe you just haven’t met the right woman.” Their heads would explode I think.
I am an adult. I have been through college and it’s social life. My brain is (basically) done developing and I finished puberty quite a while ago. How late do you have to be before people concede that you’re not a “late bloomer” you’re just not gonna bloom at all?
Maybe tomorrow I will wake up and be attracted to someone. I still would consider myself on the aroace spectrum. But to be honest I think I know myself enough to trust it’s not going to happen. And I don’t think I should have to plan for it or expect it.
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Do people really think “you’re pretending this word is a slur towards you” when the word was actually made specifically to slur us on a bigoted website works to make people… not feel slurred just because some trans women decided to try to ““““reclaim”””” theyfab as their own pet slur for ~certain types of transmascs~?
Like. This isn’t even a word that was made for the purpose of calling out transmisogynists. It was a slur from fucking 4chan made to be transphobic toward transmascs. It isn’t “reclaimable” as a ~cutesy insult~ by people who weren’t even generally the targets of the word.
That’s not what reclaiming even is. You’re just using a slur. Calling someone a “queer” as an insult, even if you yourself are lesbian, gay, bi, trans, and/or any other identity under the rainbow is still slurring them. If you can understand that you can understand how this situation is still slurring.
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