#yes even people who disagree with me

[dreamerdrop]

holding garak responsible for his behaviour on empok nor is kinda ridiculous for a number of reasons, one of which is obviously the fantastical nature of specifically what happened there in the first place, but. i gotta say.

if someone was slowly induced into a state of psychosis, dosed with utterly absurd amounts of basically amphetamines against their will, and then placed into a situation that involved them being encouraged to murder at least two people in the name of self defense, if they went ahead and flipped out and tried to kill everyone else present at the time, well—

i think i would forgive a real world human for that too, honestly. i do not think that would be their fault. i would think that situation was fucked up and they (and everyone else) were gonna need therapy forever and ever but that was not their fuckin’ fault.

[mbat]

jews: this thing in fiction feels jew coded to me, this character/group has several parallels to jewish people and i see myself here :)

non-jews: nah, that aint right, its clearly coded to be this other thing/youre stretching so hard to find a connection that isnt there

jews: this thing in fiction falls into antisemitic tropes, this character/group has several common antisemitic tropes that have a long history of being used against my people, and i think we should really consider not using these tropes anymore/consider if theres a better way to go about making the same point without doing it in this specific way

non-jews: nah, that aint right, its clearly coded to be this other thing/youre stretching so hard to find a connection that isnt there

just something ive noticed

[godlygivenanxiety]

look, not to be a hater but the whole ekko/jinx alternate universe situation only proves that jinx was only ever loved entirely and completely by silco, that's kinda the point of how tragic jinx really is as a character,

vi either only sees her little sister out of guilt/sense of duty mixed with a desperate need to come back to something or as consequences to her own actions(taking away agency from jinx in the process);

ekko sees her through the eyes of an idealist which is exactly what he is and that's not bad by itself, but it makes her either A Problem or Someone That Needs Saving, that's what's going on in his head after that AU he transported to. he's comparing jinx to powder and he likes powder much better, so he wants jinx to be powder or to reignite the powder in her - basically, he thinks how vi used to think;

isha is a complicated matter because she did show kindness and affection towards jinx that wasn't equal to anyone else's, it was pure and idolizing, she loved what she knew of jinx.

the people of zaun don't love her, not by a long shot. she became a symbol to some(as we can notice in the reunion by vander's statue) and overall the assumption that she would get involved more after her attack and silco's death is a fair one; that doesn't mean they like her,

sevika maintains a connection to jinx through grief and a sense of helplessness along with familiarity, silco's death affected jinx's psyche but it also affected sevika's dream of zaun, they feel left behind by him;

vander... well, he only got to see powder and warwick quite literally just had the memories,

the ONLY character we see that meets her as powder and stays with her as jinx is silco; yes, he isn't a good guy and he does cause the whole separation, he sharpened her edges to make her into a weapon, he lied to her and manipulated her at times, none of these things exclude the fact he does love her so strongly, with zero conditions.

she fucks up in missions, she does as she pleases around zaun, she kills their people, she stabs him in the eye, has psychotic episodes and breakdowns, she kidnaps him, ties him down, SHOOTS HIM, she doubts him and his love, keeps running after the past when he's done everything to strengthen her and she was, at a point, the only thing keeping him from his dream of an independent zaun - none of these perceived sins and flaws made him wish for anyone other than her, as she is.

all silco wanted was to keep her, while everyone else either wants another version of her or none at all. that's the tragic part, even if she suddenly decided to be good, she would feel like a burden for not being entirely like people want her to be.

[macchiatosdumptruck]

People will see two characters who are entirely devoted to each other and whose lives are intertwined in cosmic ways, and be like "what if they were just buddies? 😊" But then one second later go ape shit about a more popular ship with less than half the chemistry, but a dynamic that is considered more appropriate for the surface level, overused, interchangeable fandom tropes that have replaced any sort of genuine character interpretation

[tempesttz]

no yeah 100% you hit the nail on the head. perhaps i will rb this with more coherent thinking in the morning its 3am here rn but yeah you got it! shoutout no-more-rqs you get me i personally think that those with nonharmful atypical dysphoria should find ways to express it in their own ways, with things like transhairlength and controversial take, transplural (created systems exist and as long as you are not attempting to transition to a cdd and know what you're getting into in terms of the plural experience tm go fucking nuts dude) personal journeys into self expression can be weird and wacky and either it's a phase or it'll become an integrated part of your identity and either way fucking banger as long as you're not hurting anyone those who do have harmful versions should absolutely seek help and support, hopefully professionally, not because "oh theyre so gross and icky" no because it's a mental struggle that needs mental help just like anything else in the world. gender. day to day life. neurodivergency. trauma. paraphilias, depending on how harmful they are. therapy should not be a shameful thing and "seek psychiatric help" should not be an insult and yeah 100% toxic positivity and acceptance in any community can be fucked. which sucks because it happens in just about every community. including the endogenic community. don't flambe me for this one it's true, sometimes people in the endogenic community get too into the "accept everyone's personal experiences" mindset and now someone out there is claiming that our head admin left our system to systravel to theirs and live there because they don't like us anymore. hey gateway system we used to hang out with if you see this sapling is very much still in our system and the fact so many people are supporting and believing this, even those who knew us personally, is fucking wild. it's also an issue in anti endo spaces though i would say. that "we will support you you definitely have this thing [trauma disorder] and anyone else [endogenic system] is terrible and will do nothing but hurt you and misinform you. don't worry we'll love you real systems band together" literally every community has its own form. we all should just sit down in a little conference room and have chats without it having to be a personal attack on other people i think. i think that would be splendid. the current state of the internet has lead people to believe that if someone disagrees with you they are the devil and the enemy and must be either evil and malicious or mentally ill uninformed and a victim of the bad people :(( when in reality most people are just. you know. people on the internet. i dont know how to end this. glad to hear you're not claiming 2 be a nazi anymore lol, might add to this in the morning, have a good one yall

rare radqueer opinion

(taps mic) i believe in atypical dysphoria (boos from one side) (taps mic again) i believe that the current state of transids/transx can be harmful to some of the communities which the individuals id-ing as transx are from, and in some cases can also harm cisid individuals in question, accidentally or purposefully (confusion from everyone) (taps mic a third time) i think we should have respectful discussion on how these communities can be more accepting and respectful towards "cisids" without devaluing the experiences of those who experience "transids" (and develop clearer boundaries regarding more harmful transids) i think that would be nice :D [gen posi]

[magicalspit]

npcs be out here like “maybe the gods going away wouldn’t be that bad. this might be good” as if i ever forgot about the woman who’s mind got physically altered near beyond repair episodes ago

[silverislander]

i'm thiiiiis close to just blocking the whole j/v tag and/or the individual tags for both characters :)))

[swiftfootedachilles]

im just gonna be honest gang obviously its gonna be easy for you to say youre in love with a character and theyre an angel when anytime they do something you don't like you brush it off as out of character

[zees-hat]

Guys I’ve just seen a take so completely outrageous so I just wanna point out something one of the creators of total drama (Terry) has said in recent times

None of the contestants would have hate towards gay people

I also think it’s kind of weird to just give characters the homophobic/transphobic headcanon just because of how they look or how their attitude is?? Completely insane

Also just saying criticizing/negatively questioning people on their lgbtq+ headcanons for characters is literally insane. It’s called a headcanon for a reason?? It’s never been confirmed except for a few characters?? Like come on, let’s be serious for a few moments !

[trentcrimminallybeautiful]

you know if we do accept the last epilogue-esque sequence as a sort of dream/wish of ted's and therefore not necessarily canon, very funny if we then simply go "yeah, trent's book is called 'the lasso way' actually. he didn't change that. nope."

[dykegeology]

Fascinating how people on tumblr will go on about letting people do what they want with their bodies and food preferences (a good thing!!) but then get really pissed at vegans

[allthepandasintheworld]

Man though I need to dig up some of the old art I have of René as a kid/teen… he was goth/emo as a young adult and i think it explains exactly why I’ve latched onto Silco so hard after season 2

[rolandkaros]

sometimes my knee jerk reactions to things i see on the internet force me to deeply consider that i am, in fact, the problem here

[rawliverandgoronspice]

Hello.

You and gay-jesus-probably have successfully made me question everything with your view that Tears of the Kingdom is imperialist propaganda, so that's been fun.

Anyway, I decided to share this discussion with the Zelda fans on reddit, and perhaps unsurprisingly, a lot of them disagreed. Here is what they said (I'm Alarming_Afternoon44):

So what do you think? Have I and all these other people just been duped by the game's manipulative framing? Or do they actually have a point?

And if you'd rather not answer this, or would prefer if I censored the usernames, just tell me and I'll delete this.

Hey! Thanks a lot for reaching out, and I'm glad it made you think stuff through!!

Honestly, as I mentioned in this post, I am not super interested about in-world conversations about who oppresses who, because what can be assessed from the game is super vague and more vibes-based than evidence-based. Within the text, of course that the Good Zonais are good and the Bad Ganondorf is bad! But that's my whole point! The narrative has been deliberately crafted so that the zonais and Rauru (and Hyrule) are as blameless as possible (and it's not doing a great job at it overall to be frank; we would not be having these conversations about how offputting it all feels for a non-zero number of people if it did do a great job). More importantly, I want to focus on what sort of real-life narrative it all parallels. Because people make stories, and people live in the real world.

Not going after everyone's throat here, gamedev is hard and the hydras that are AAA game production do end up doing super weird stuff, especially since the thematic ramifications are absolutely never prioritized (and it's also always the same kind of people who make the final calls and push out what can and can't be talked about also). And as fans, we tend to have trouble stepping outside the lens of lore and take a look at the bigger picture sometimes; not as an attack on any individual part of that decision-making process but to just pause, stop, and question our standards, our priorities and the kind of reality (or skewing of reality) the stories we tell each other reflect.

Again: do we want to take videogames seriously or not? If we do, then we need to accept they are a vehicle for ideology, just like any other artform. And sometimes, you push out questionable ideology, sometimes without meaning to, because you didn't unpack your own biases as you did. And it's even fine to do it, nobody is perfect, a 300+ people team spread over 6 years certainly will not be that. But that it wasn't prioritized is, in my opinion, a problem. As a narrative designer, I want games (at least the narrative side) to be held to a higher standard than this. It's literally my job to work with the industry so it can hold itself to higher standards of quality --so the whole TotK situation is quite frustrating to witness from a very pragmatic, work perspective where I already spend my days trying to convince people that things mean things. I have a vested interest here in not having the companies I work for being given a free pass by gamers to do literally whatever as long as it's fun, especially when we're talking about a billion-dollars company suing its own fans left and right for any perceived slight. Nintendo are not underdogs here. It's fine to point out they cut corners and maybe promoted messy ideologies, voluntarily or not.

So long story short: no I don't believe anyone here has a point in regards to what I think is actually important, which is why these choices were made in the first place. If you look at an imperialist text expecting the text to tell you that it's imperialist instead of recognizing a framing used for propaganda by yourself, you're never gonna find any imperialist text ever, obviously not!! I'm sorry if I sound a little gngngn here, but I don't know why audiences have, at large, this feeling that lore and story beat decisions materialize themselves already formed and without any human bias, meddling, intervention, internal politics or approximations (it seems that people can only conceptualize this part if they have actual names to attach to the story, but without clear authors it's like there are no authors and so no bias, which is... a very strange bias in itself). I can promise you that it does not work that way in practice: every narrative department on every big game is a battlefield --some nicer than others, but all of them very emotionally draining either way.

So yeah, I guess that on these grounds, I disagree with every point raised here. Sorry Reddit :/

But thank you for the ask and sorry if I didn't go more into details as to why. The big Why I Dislike Rauru Post and the Gerudo Post might have some more specific rebuttals, but I am not super interested in debating small detail stuff tbh. I feel like it's no use if the frame of reference isn't being understood in the first place.

[snekdood]

ive been disillusioned with a lot of the left for a while, it's nice to at least see that other ppl see it now, though the reason why kinda fucking sucks.

[seventh-district]

I'm probably far from the first person to say this, but you can't tell me that this song doesn't just scream Aventurine, c'mon.