#wings of fire rant
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starflight's crush on sunny was purely in a "i admire you for the dragon you are and i hope you admire me in the same way" and NOT romantic because please, they were practically siblings...
the only way i can comfortably look at starflight's crush is putting it in a "he didn't understand what romantic feelings were as he was cooped up in the cave" please don't ship them. they are siblings.
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friendlylemonade · 7 months ago
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Okay, but the Nightwings are kinda stupid, I mean, making Rainwing-proof armour that you can still see in? Just use GLASS! They clearly have access to it, since they have a beach with black sand, and even if, for some reason, that sand can’t be made into glass, they have a portal to the DESERT! Glass is just superheated sand, and where will you find a lot of heat? A volcano! Glass isn’t organic, so it can’t be melted by Rainwing venom, so that’s the main problem solved. And dragons clearly know how to make glass, as Jerboa III smashed a glass candle holder to remove animus magic in book 14. So either the Nightwings are horribly technologically inadvanced to the point of not having glass, which is more possible than I’m making it sound (and yes, I know, there is glass shown in the book 4 graphic novel, but as far as I remember, glass was never mentioned in the novel version) or they’re just plain dumb.
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mistlestripe · 4 months ago
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(Wings of fire arc 2 spoilers) (How I think the ending could be done better)
Ok so like I LOVE kinkajou but her being the one to stop D-stalker was not the plot twist it was probably intended to be....when she's been the least personally effected by darkstalker's plotline...I think most people agree with that though I hope. The only thing that makes the Kinkajou plot twist interesting is that she was the person he least suspected to do anything to him. (But unfortunately even that wasn't honed in on and it was just a resolution to the "darkstalker thinks kinkajou is boring" running gag as a result) I think it would have been more rewarding if Foeslayer or Moon herself was the one to end Darkstalker. I could also accept Qibli just for the simple fact that it was his book and he honestly deserves a memorable W because he has absolutely 0 in his own book (and it would make his and moons relationship feel more earned too but other then that it wouldn't be THAT beneficial it'd just be fun) I think Foeslayer would be the one most ACCURATE for the writing style and the most sensible considering the direction the arc went in-- It makes sense that the reason none of the protagonists (minus turtle) did anything about darkstalker was because they were simply incapable of agreeing on a way to beat him and needed someone to step in and finish him in a way none of them could think of, it would make the "dragged on" style of writing qibli's book had make sense because it was basically hopeless until someone else actually came to do something (rather than the narrative just super obviously putting off plot revelations until its "time for that") I think to me though it would be the BEST if it were Moon to stop him though. It would have made the story come around on itself and it would have given Moon a real proper "arc" instead of one that only silently disproves her initial thought process that was obviously wrong the whole time lol... (that darkstalker can be reasoned with)...it would have also made her randomly siding with him again (conveniently after everyone is enchanted to like him) after he admitted to killing his dad feel at least more earned, like at least it makes sense why the narrative needs her to like him again (so there can be a satisfying conclusion to it). I think the way it is it would be kind of out of nowhere and it would still feel kind of BS for her to finally stop him after the book put it off for so long, but it would at least be an improvement to an overall unsatisfying conclusion and would improve an extremely important character losing almost all agency during the entire finale book and then never properly addressing it (other than winter who got villainized by all his friends for it and was treated like a bad boy who doesnt deserve the girl after that point lmao.)
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axilarycobra · 1 year ago
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random moment in EP that makes me mad
I've been thinking back on this specific scene from EP and it always makes my blood boil.
Like, Moon and Qibli, I generally like but then they were randomly jerks to Peril even though it was so out of character. Literally Moon has a part in her novel about how she reflects on how she is glad to have her mind-reading powers because it allows her to know more behind why a dragon might act a certain way but when Peril starts to think in ways that she had been raised to think by being forced to fight dragons to death in an arena, she is called disturbing and is treated like a monster. There is no way Peril is the only dragon Moon had ever met who thought about death and Peril was only doing it because it was her survival instinct since she'd been raised in an environment where if she wasn't useful for killing, she would have been discarded.
Also, the whole thing where Moon tells Peril to tone down her thoughts as if she even has the right? Didn't you spend a whole plot point in your book learning about how to let other dragons keep their thoughts private but Peril, who you already have a hard time reading the mind of, is forced to change how she thinks (which you don't control btw, you just think things, not her fault you can hear them) to make you more comfortable?
And Qibli is always noted as the "clever one" who is supposed to be able to understand things that not even mind reader Moon can but he isn't able to understand that Peril followed Scarlet because Scarlet was manipulative and not because Peril was a blood-thirsty murderer? Like, weren't you also raised in an abusive home? Yet you can't understand that Scarlet of all dragons was not a good parental figure to Peril and that likely had a huge influence on how Peril acts and thinks? And then you get all over Peril about how Ruby is her queen when Ruby treats Peril like a monster and a freak but its a travesty when Peril isn't loyal to her because even if the dragon who is supposed to be taking care of you exiles you from their kingdom, you are supposed to still be loyal to them?
Oh and then in Moon's book, Qibli gets so worked up and untrusting of Moon when he learns that she was reading his mind but he's totally fine when Moon reads Peril's mind without permission just because he doesn't trust her? Like get over yourself.
anyway, random rant ig
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bli-o · 2 years ago
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my least favorite writing trope is solidly when a villain is presented, you get an idea of what they’re about, the author establishes scales of their power, intimidation, etc
and then the author JUST KILLS/DISCARDS THEM AND REPLACES THEM WITH SOME OTHER FUCKER WHO’S ONLY ESTABLISHED THREAT IS THAT THEY GOT RID OF/IS MORE THREATENING THAN THE OTHER GUY
and then all the fucking stakes in the story are changed so automatically that the tone whiplashes so hard you dont get time to readjust and get a feel of the new threat before they’re already defeated
EXHIBIT A: Tigerstar and Scourge from Warriors
First arc tigerstar is such a well developed villain, you actually understand whats at stake if he were to win, you have developed your view on the character, and then FUCKING SCOURGE, SOME GUY WE’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, KILLS HIM AND HES THE NEW VILLAIN NOW. SIXTH GRADE ME WAS SO SO PISSED. idfk shit about scourge’s backstory because i stopped reading after i finished dawn of the clans(the only series from warriors that I actually enjoyed) but it doesnt really matter because your average reader wont have read his backstory by the time they get to the last of the first arc. And then scourge dies after we’ve hardly met him??? I mean. ok i guess. Damn the first arc was so good and it fumbled the bag so hard
EXHIBIT B: Queen Wasp and The Breath Of Evil from Wings Of Fire
queen wasp was such a good villain. I hated her so much, the culture of the hives was so well developed within just the first book. She was so well established as a legitimate threat. They even began fighting against her.
THEN THE DAMNED BREATH OF EVIL SUDDENLY APPEARS AND ITS THE VILLAIN NOW?? Its sort of threatening I guess, because it can do mind control, but wasp already had that. She literally used it. The mind control idea would’ve been so much more intimidating with wasp backing it but tui just had to turn the car around and change the stakes from defeat dragon racism -> EVERYONE’S GOING TO BE MIND CONTROLLED
thats not to say either of these characters wouldn’t have made for threatening concepts, but they just were never fleshed out. Especially not like their predecessor, who’s potential was just entirely fucking wasted and the payoff to their defeat was just so disappointing.
if you wanna change the stakes, do it right people, please. For the love of god.
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scrollwyrm · 7 months ago
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I love how for the whole second arc, Winter and Qibli are just like: “woah Moon should date HIM he’s so gorgeous and a great person and why would she ever choose me over that perfect wonderful guy when he’s so awesome! Wait… I must be in love with Moon!” Like no bro ur gay.
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marmalice · 1 year ago
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when the sandwing in your winglet says something so rainbow you gotta hit em with that first circle stare
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Finished Winter Turning in my 'reread WoF at an acceptable pace' journey. Lemme tell you reading fanfiction has really evolved(?)/ruined the original concept of him as a character.
His original story revolves around this process of tearing down the ideas that were carved into you by the people that were around you when you really didn't have a choice who was around you.
And it's this process that god knows I had to drag myself through. I've learned and am still learning to be a lot kinder to myself and the people around me.
It really breaks my heart to see him not being fast enough in this journey to change himself to allow him to get the happy ending he so desperately (in my opinion) deserves, and I don't know what this says about myself and my own journey.
Anyway writing this down because it's something I want to remember.
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motheline · 11 months ago
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WoF Headcanons:
LeafWings' wings and frills change colour depending on the season, they get greener with warmer months and duller/browner with colder months
MudWings often get markings engraved on their tusks or horns, royal ones get them engraved in gold
BigWing MudWings wear gold rings on their horns- one for each of their siblings
HiveWings have their own language similar to SeaWings' Aquatic- which revolves around various flight patterns similar to how bees communicate, usually used as a way for soldiers to get a message across quickly
Some SeaWings live in polar waters near the Ice Kingdom- have thicker scales and blubbery skin similar to whales or seals
SilkWings have long tongues like butterflies- nectar is repurposed as a sweet and rich drink, seen as a delicacy- sometimes alcoholic
SandWings have a third eyelid and thick eyelashes to keep sand out of their eyes
SandWings hold their tails up when threatened or as a warning sign to enemies, giving them a chance to back off
Sky Islands exist because I said so, magic can exist so why can't floating islands, SkyWings don't deserve to just live on mountains
SkyWings can handle much higher altitudes than other tribes, some choose to live on the floating islands- most of which are so high up only SkyWings can reach them
NightWings born under blood moons have red tinted wings
SkyWings have hooked snouts like beaks, as well as feathers because I can
MudWings are incredibly culinarily (???) advanced and see food as a very vital part of their culture. They hold tribe feasts on special events
LeafWings have green blood
LeafWings need sun time as much as RainWings do- they still eat actual food but get most of their energy from the sun
SeaWings are slow fliers, their wings more built for swimming than flying
SkyWings have courtship dances similar to birds
RainWings aren't fit for flying long distances as their wings are built more for gliding through trees than flying
NightWing seers have white diamond shaped markings on the top of their heads, usually resembling a third eye
That's all for now, follow to see me break canon even harder
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danderling · 6 months ago
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Sum wings of fire art!!!!
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Oh god can I just say- (wof spoilers)
Arc 2 could have been PERFECT but from what I remember it got way out of hand imo
Take this with a grain of salt and a mountain of cluelessness btw… going off of what I remember in the book series I haven’t reread it in forever
MoonWatcher was such a peak character in book 5 I loved her so much and I used to associate myself with her because of her personality but then book 6 happened and….. idk it wasn’t the same
It’s not that she became a horrible bland character I think I just lost that connection with her since she sort of became more soulless to me,,,,, the love triangle also kind of bothered me but I moved past it because I love all three characters
Anyways live laugh love arc 2 protags we miss you Carnelian you would have hated Skibidi toilet
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some-pers0n · 1 year ago
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I've got a couple messy feelings on Cleril and how the fandom treats it, so here. Take this rant.
TL:DR: Cleril is good you guys. Trust me.
Maybe it's a sign that the brainrot from writing murderers and people who are so far gone from the general norm being able to be soft and sweet is killing the last remaining sense of reason in me, but I don't think Cleril is as bad as people make it out to be.
Yeah, obviously at first glance this should never work. Saying that Peril isn't the most stable character in the series would be a massive understatement. She is constantly characterized as reckless, clingy, emotionally dependent, and always puts herself down as a monstrous dragon only capable of hurting others. Clay has never shown any sort of romantic interest in her, only being passive and sweet with her in a platonic sense. Peril on the other hand loves Clay to the point of obsession. She practically makes him her moral compass. That sort of idealization isn't healthy.
And...you'd be correct. In that state? There isn't too much of a connection there to begin with. If it were to happen right now, I think it would mostly be out of Clay feeling pity towards Peril. He wants her to be happy and is kind of self-sacrificing like that, but, I don't think he could handle being the dragon who she puts all of this pressure on. To be somebody who she centers everything around.
But, Peril isn't really that dragon anymore. It's like people read Escaping Peril, get to the end, and then think: "Oh wow she sure developed. Not enough to be a healthy character!!" as if Escaping Peril didn't end with her burning Darkstalker's scroll and thinking to herself that she didn't mind if Clay wouldn't approve of it. She was acting on her own volition. She knew that burning it was the correct thing to do. She's moved on from treating Clay like this centerpiece in her soul. This dragon who she treats more like an idea of her conscious to keep her on the right track. She's improved. Getting better.
Peril is a character I think is misunderstood by a lot of people, especially ones that aren't really in her position. I don't wanna be an arm-chair psychologist and spout nonsense, but Peril is heavily traumatized and reminds me a lot of people who get out of these horrible situations and are trying to adapt to a new and scary world all on their own.
Peril had an awful childhood. She was raised to be dependent on Scarlet. Scarlet was the only dragon who was keeping her from being thrown off a cliff by an angry mob. She was manipulated and gaslit into believing that what Scarlet did was good. That Scarlet was the only one who cared about her. That these kind of horrible and unhealthy relationships are something she thinks is normal. When Clay comes around, she does the exact same thing. Puts him on a pedestal. The concept of being treated as anything but a monster is completely foreign to her, so she instantly grows attached. She thinks he loves her. Why else would he be so kind? She associates basic compassion with love because that's what she's been raised to believe.
But, she's healing. Throughout Escaping Peril we see her come to terms with her childhood. She understands that she is not a monster, but rather a dragon who was a victim of her circumstances. She is not the same, volatile, unpredictable dragon she was in TDP. People still think of her as that, when she certainly isn't anymore. She's so much better.
Her arc is one about bettering yourself. That, no matter how hurt you were, you deserve to be loved. You deserve to be treated with respect and kindness. You are not a monster. You are capable of love. You are not a heartless being. There are people who care about you. There are people who will stand by your side and help you. There are people who love you.
People never talk about Clay's side of Cleril either. People barely even discuss about Clay for that matter. He's so much of a nothing character in the eyes of the fandom, reduced to little more than Peril's partner who can give big hugs.
But, Clay is like Peril is so many ways. That was one of the many reasons they both got along. Clay and Peril were brought up as unfeeling monsters. Born killers who cannot change their fate. Clay believed in it. That no matter what he tries telling himself, he's a murderer. That at his very core he wants nothing more than to tear out somebody's throat.
But, he learns. He is kind. He is compassionate. He is patient, earnest, sweet, loyal, and above all: loving. He is not a monster. He is more than the labels placed upon him. Only he can define himself through the actions he makes in the present. He is more than the mistakes of his past. He is Clay. He is not Clay the Killer, or Clay the Destroyer, or Clay the Monster. He is Clay.
Him and Peril are alike in so many ways. Clay is the final result of Peril's journey. She's still struggling, but she's making progress. She's developing and changing into somebody better. She's making amends for her mistakes. She's going to be somebody bigger than the labels that were placed on her. She will no longer be Peril, Scarlet's Champion. She will be Peril, known for her fierce loyalty, undying love for her friends, and being the one to burn brightest in the darkest of times.
I believe they can love each other. I believe that Peril can love another dragon and not be extremely clingy or dependent. I believe that Clay and Peril can help each other.
Call be a hopeless romantic or a optimist, but I believe in love. I believe love can help others through their struggles. I believe in people being able to change and grow beyond who they were. Above all, I believe in hope for a brighter future for anybody who has been hurt in the past.
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juniette13 · 16 days ago
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Is it really a shocker that Talons of Peace (WoF Beta) staff have yet again refused to make an announcement covering genocide under the guise of “Well the server’s for kids!! This is too graphic!! It’s political!!” as if WoF hasn’t used genocide as a plot point at least once? 💀
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y'all do NOT appreciate tsunami and riptide enough, and i mean it :(
they are a beautiful everything x just ken relationship and yall keep tryna make riptide a butch he/him lesbian nuh uh
#FreeRiptide
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jflxwr · 11 months ago
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sometimes i think about blob. ( indigo's pet that fathom carved and enchanted for her )
and then i remember that fathom only gave him life, not mortality.
and that makes me sad knowing blob is probably still alive without indigo.
and then i remember fathom made blob to be extremely loyal.
and then i imagine blob sadly roaming around pyrrhia for two thousand years trying to find indigo and i get even sadder.
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theriu · 1 year ago
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Speaking as someone who really dislikes people dying: Guys we GOTTA stop preserving the supervillains. Bronzing, turning to stone, putting into enchanted sleep—why are we making the villains functionally immortal??? I get we need to defeat the evil yet remember the value of mercy and not be consumed by murder-vengeance, but have we considered imprisoning them in a way that still lets them die of old age??? This isn’t a solution, it’s postponing the problem! And you know the instructions always get lost! Future generations should not have to deal with this crap!!!
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br0-k3n-sch00lb01 · 7 months ago
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Based on that poll i’m also gonna make another one with MORE fav characters/fictionkin/kin
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theravequeen · 4 months ago
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Pressure fandom, Wings of Fire fandom.....
I made them dragons
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Also here's Raven trying to fit in:
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