#wf: tt

[bluespiritshonour]

Oh my God!

I just caught up with World's Finest: Teen Titans and I absolutely have to write this out:

First of all, I love this cover:

The thing that caught my eye: “you're grounded.”

Not the dramatic “you're fired” as if the motherfucker didn't raise that damn kid in his own damn house for YEARS.

(I know. I know. Bar on the ground, but what would you?)

Also, the anger palpable on Bruce's face and Dick's absolute disregard for it. I'm laughing here y'all. This is what teenagers act like. This is what fights between parents and children look like.

Also. Dick Grayson, I've been missing. You're back from war!

I love how curt he is. The “Get lost” hits in all the right places. We love a strongly-principled character that stands for what he believes in. With all the lukewarm Dick Grayson writing floating around I felt like walking into a coffee shop while it's snowing outside.

More of this writing, please.

I'd been waiting for this moment all through this series.

This conversation.

I compare things all the time. It might not be the right thing in every field but I think it serves well when it comes to comic books. We all have personal “canon criteria”—for example, mine are “Darwyn Cooke wrote this Bruce so I'm taking it as valid characterisation ” or “Every version of Bruce played by Kevin Conroy is valid”. (Minus Bruce Timm bullshit!)

Which was what cinched my hatred for Bruce after reading a Robin short story that Cooke wrote and alluded to Robin: Year One in it. I mean, I might not fuck with Dixon, but am I going to call even Cooke's Bruce OOC? No. It means Bruce is a jerk. Full stop.

Waid is one of the writers I respect (excluding Kingdom Come. I hate it and I can't put my finger on the why. But I just do: I hate it. I hate it for Clark. I hate it for Diana. And I'm a professional Bruce-hater so let's not even go there. I hate it for Dick too.)

And Dick and Bruce's relationship has a lot of baggage from the fact that a) Bruce is himself traumatised and fails to meet Dick's emotional needs b) he wasn't ready to be a father when he adopted Dick c) Dick simply suffers from being the eldest—the test child.

And very rarely have I seen writers manage to walk on the thin line of complicated-but-dedicated-and-strong.

Young Justice cartoon did it. Dick and Bruce's relationship is going strong. But they fight and have different values. And Dick can see all that is wrong with Bruce's approach to vigilantism in particular and life in general.

Grimm (Legends of the Dark Knight #149-154) did it right. Where Bruce hurt Dick deeply and made him feel unwanted all the while overthinking about Dick's well-being. Way to go, buddy! You can see the repercussions it has for Dick while simultaneously stare at this man who's tying himself into knots trying to think how best to parent.

I think that's what most Bruce and Dick comics miss: the excessive worrying. They don't show the worry, make them fight for drama, never address it apart from throwing out a “it's because Bruce's worried” (bitch, where?) and have Dick running back to Gotham at the first chance. It sounds an awful lot like “your parents hurt you 'cause they love you” bullshit.

I think World's Finest manages it well because foremost, Bruce says, in words, that he's worried about Dick's well-being. He's taciturn, he's putting constant pressure on Dick all in the hopes of making him quit Titans. All this makes him a jerk. But I don't hate him for it.

It's between Dick's “you don't trust me” and Bruce's “no, I don't trust them.”

Most teenagers clash with their parents. It's normal. That's what Waid has shown here and I love it. It feels very—normal?

Especially when the Bats aren't normal! Bruce sure as fuck ain't a normal parent. But there was something very bitter-sweet coming-of-age in this conversation.

Bruce does all those things that are bad for Dick and his growing independence. You're not supposed to handle teenagers like that.

He's worried and taking desperate measures. “If I punish him, then maybe he'll obey me and quit Titans and then he'll he safe”—lots of parents who don't know how to deal with teenagers do it.

But the sequence of it: Bruce is worried → Bruce wants Dick to quit Titans → for Dick it means proving himself to be better, to not get hurt (as if he can control that beyond a certain point) → Bruce being alarmed at Dick's insistence to stay with the Titans and taking desperate measures like benching him.

At least it makes sense.

Compare it to Dixon's Nightwing origin story, which honestly, personally I think was lazy writing. Drama for drama's sake. “You’re fired because you're spending too much time with the Titans.” The same writer also had Bruce say that he did it because he wanted Dick to strike out on his own. Blah, blah, blah.

And no matter whatever happens he'd never ever say it to Dick's face that he's worried about him because—well, reasons.

Robin: Year One logic:

I'm worried about Dick's health so I fire him. He runs off and can get hurt? He joins a school for assasins? None of my business. He can get hurt on his own, I don't care as long as it is not on my conscience. Peace.

—Bruce “professional narcissist” Wayne.

So, yes. When faced with this book(WF: TT), I'd call Dixon's writing lazy.

I'm also comparing this to several other instances when Bruce verbally says (never to Dick, mind you) that he loves that Dick's a better person and better vigilante than him. But in the same book he'd yell at Dick for exactly the same thing. (I consider that lazy writing, since BTAS made sure to show a shot of Bruce smiling whenever Dick was happy/not like him).

I like this thing here where he says it to Dick's face. He's still grounding him for “discipline's sake” or whatever—very, very IC for Bruce.

But he also lets Dick know that he appreciates his values, that are different—better—than Bruce's own.

I can stomach that.

Honestly Bruce's writing in this book felt like BtAS writing (pre-Bruce Timm fuckery). That's a compliment.

P.S. Waid's a good story-teller overall. His Superman: Birthright was one of the first Superman comics I read and I fell in love with Clark right away.

Peace ✌️😂

[cynningly]

forgot to post this, love these guys

[badlydrawn-halstrider]

Hello. Hope you're having a wonderful day?

Maybe it's not a right place to ask, but what happened to White from SBURB ?

Off-topic answering post.

Mod Maks/Hal9k here.

This is ask blog that I have for fun, I have my main blog — @hal-strider9k where you can ask questions that not related to this ask blog. I've wanted to make this blog "anonymous" but there's not need for that as I see.

White From SBURB is a russian fan comic that takes place in Homestuck setting but have it's own characters and plot.

WFS had gone into hiatus for 2 months 'cause I was having a lot of work on myself due to New Year and Christmas events and my laptop had died so I got a new one (I'm second beta in comic and one of co-authors) and other colleagues had their own problems with studying and holidays, yadda yadda. Don't worry, we will be back around February with new update.

[sp1tballz]

Sean learns a slur (au by @m0th-gh0st)

[roger-paladino]

Sketches and stuff

[cyanide-rifle]

The tt wf community is so silly hehehhehe

[plotbunny-bundle]

For @aqua-dan who really wanted Garth to win that other poll

[hood-ex]

I am SO annoyed. I've been waiting for months to buy the french edition of WF Teen Titans, only for them to publish it in the same book as TT's Titans. I really don't want to own a TT book.

Ehh??? Why would they do that?? Roy, Karen, and Mal aren't even in TT's Titans 😭 (Roy's in a flashback but smh). They're not the same teams so like... what. Plus Titans has the Beast World crossover in it... that's so disjointed. I'm annoyed on your behalf.

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[agox]

Last night I got high and wrote a program to find all of the unused elemental symbols. It turns out there’s 585 of them and it’s much less interesting the next day.

One interesting finding: I couldn’t be bothered to generate all possible one and two letter strings, so I asked ChatGPT to write me code that would do all that for me. It worked surprisingly well!

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[cynningly]

apparently y’all really like the homicidal four so here’s another edit

[whalehouse1]

I have seen the biggest issue ppl have with WF’s TT is the social media aspect. Meanwhile I’m trying to wrap my mind around GarthxDonna, Dick actually listening to and respecting Bruce about his identity (*cough*heisntTim*cough*) and Roy’s…just general douchebag vibe. I feel he got the characterization right but on the wrong characters at times.

[sp1tballz]

MORE SLENDERVERSE REQS!!!

[aqua-dan]

Mm lots to say about WF TT 2 ...

[thinnerthanme]

hej

dzis cały dzien był fast przed tym jutrzejszym makiem

bo umowilam sie z kol na drwala

ale jak zobaczyłam ile ten syf ma kalorii (900) to sie omal nie zesrałam(XDD) wiec stwierdziłam ze cos wymysle i powiem ze sie boje tego drwala probowac (nigdy nie jadłam) bo ludzie na tt hejtuja ze w tym roku jakis słaby

i wezme red chikkera (nie wiem ja to sie pisze ) bo on ma 340 kcal a nie bedzie sprawiał podejrzen. Bo jak bym wziela same frytki albo sałatke to ja niechce wiedziec co by sie działo

pewnie by mnie wysmiała poza tym nie chce sprawac wrazenia takiej "ja wezme tylko frytki bo nie dam rady zjesc całego burgera" albo takiej fit ze bierze sałatke w maku

chce jej pokazac ze jem normalnie i ze mam wyjebane co jem

szczególnie ze ona cos podejzewała jakis miesiąc temu

no i oczywiście bedziemy duzo łazic wiec z krokow sie spali i zrobie trening oczywiscie i jeszcze wf mam wiem jak zjem tylko to ,to bedzie naprawdze dobrze

ewentualnie jak rano sie bede jakos bardzo zle czuja po fascie to zjem muss i wafla 150 kcal

wiec z całego dnia wyjdzie ok 500kcal

kocham was trzymajcie sie jakos