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Someone is eventually going to get isekai’d into miraculous ladybug. Lord have mercy.
#cause the show SUCKS#someone needs to bring in common sense#because half the show is WTF and the other is filler#please how does this make sense#there’s no consequences#everybody is awfully stupid#logic doesn’t work here#the concept of the show is what got me in but holysh*t#inconsistencies#in miraculous#miraculous ladybug#wasted characters and arcs#and the season 5 finale was messed up so badly#this whole situation only happened because no one told ANYONE ANYTHING#there’s no time to process wtf I’d going on in universe/canon#if you read the tags#don’t take it too seriously#thanks for listening#to my Ted talk#also I don’t hate miraculous in general just the way they handled the plot and the development#if my opinion is offensive that’s ok we are all entitled to our own opinions
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it's pretty wild to me that people don't see that aang running off to save katara in CoD is his luke in empire strikes back moment, where he runs headlong into his want and attachment and he's narratively punished for doing so and not learning his lesson - aang runs after katara despite guru pathik's warning, like luke runs after leia and han from yoda on dagobah despite yoda's warning; similarly, as a result, things go to hell in ba sing se like they do on bespin - aang enters the avatar state before he's ready and gets killed, and ba sing se falls to the fire nation, luke fights vader before he's ready, loses a hand, and symbolically commits suicide after vader tells him he's luke's father.
the difference between their character arcs is that george lucas and co. actually went thru with luke's hero's journey and understood the fundamental difference between attachment and love, whereas I don't think bryke understood this difference and then dropped this from aang's arc pretty much completely and replaced it with aang digging in his heels into his want and attachment and he gets rewarded with energy bending from a lion turtle, the avatar state from a random pointy rock, and his forever girl from the self-indulgent white men that couldn't bring themselves to give their hero a compelling character arc that meant he might not have gotten everything he wanted at the end.
#the wasted potential of aang's arc gets to me so bad#the narrative and thematic set up is entirely there and they just shove it in the bin lmao#it especially irks as someone raised buddhist and dealing with writers that invoke these themes out of a fascination#with the religion and philosophy but then a complete unwillingess to actually commit to what those themes require of the character arcs#anyway sorry to say it#but zuko's arc does a better job embodying buddhist themes than aang's does in the end#despite all misappropriated aesthetics to the contrary#aang critical#but its really the writing like i LIKE aang i love his potential i hate how self indulgently he's written by the end of the show#atla critical#meta*#holly talks bs#also yes it would've been better narratively for aang katara zuko to the go the way of luke leia han#even if katara couldn't have been revealed as aang's surprise secret twin lmao#the thematic conceit of the triangle is the same in that luke and aang get over their infatuation with the first pretty girl he sees#and becomes the hero he needs to be#meanwhile hanleia and zutara are saving each other and being cool and kissing#anyway
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not related to noco at all but what is katie and sadie’s relationship like now?
pretty good all things considered! while they're both married to two sweet guys and have separate families (none of their kids are other td characters, unfortunately...) they're still really close, and still live next to each other at that same beach town they grew up in, now both running that successful 80s themed ice cream business they've been dreaming of! its safe to say they probably suffered the least on Total Drama, only leaving with a couple of minor scars, good god were they lucky..
#noco family au#total drama#total drama katie#total drama sadie#total drama katie and sadie#where are they now#I mean its ok to ask non-coco related questions here I won't complain#and I guess it makes sense talking about these two since they made like#a VERY brief cameo in the Wayne arc#just thinking but I've been too harsh on these two for a bit now they're actually pretty sweet#like yea they were annoying and gimmicky on the show but#they kinda feel like wasted potential#like their bios talk about so much we don't see in the show#like how they love the 80s#or that they make their own ice cream#or that Katie sews their clothes from scratch?#like#that's fucking adorable#but then they're resorted to annoying filler characters#like I sorta get it from a writing standpoint but..#when Katie was voted off they did sweet FUCK ALL with Sadie#like Sadie didn't even SPEAK until the episode she was eliminated#and then they don't show up again unless its to simp for this seasons hot boy or whatever#idk
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Accepted
#jin guangyao#jin zixuan#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#cql#my art#the untamed#LET ZIXUAN HAVE A BROTHER#he has so many siblings but was the only character raised as an only child#he was immediately accepting of jgy too you know he'd mirror lxc in how he treats him in front of the public and in privacy#jzx was such a wasted potential on so many fronts#no arc for him and wwx either
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even if ronance isn’t endgame, i need nancy to have an arc where she chooses her friend. in my head, the only thing that makes sense is nancy choosing robin. not even in the romantic sense (although i would die of happiness if it was), just nancy remembering her choices and not making the same mistakes she made at sixteen.
having nancy go through four seasons of chasing/grieving/fighting for her best friend, only to turn her entire character into a plot device for steve or jonathan, would be the worst possible choice the duffers could make.
#nothing else will ever make sense to me#i need to see a parallel scene from s1 when barb asks nancy to leave at steve’s house#but in s5 it’s robin and nancy goes with her this time#if they waste an entire show’s worth of character development on a love triangle im suing#i have so many scenarios in my head that i want to write about now#obvi i want ronance to be canon but i will settle for nancy’s redemption arc#honestly i’ll settle for anything#as long as they have at least three scenes together im good#i’m rambling sorry#ronance#stranger things#robin buckley#nancy wheeler
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Society if Black Butler Season 2 wasn't so Fucking Weird
#black butler#kuroshitsuji#ciel phantomhive#alois trancy#sebastian michaelis#claude faustus#grell sutcliff#so many amazing characters#such wasted potential#the entire season was just fan service#terrible fan service#alois could've been an amazing character#with an amazing arc#but nooooooo#i'm literally so mad about this
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Supernatural: hmmm okay so we need a way to show Jack how bad Lucifer is, something really horrible to force him to confess to, something that will make him drop his father forever….hmm, what could we do, what could we do….
Sam, life ruined all for Lucifer, possessed by Lucifer, tortured by him for centuries, multiple attempts on his life by lucifer, loved by jack like a father, main character on the show for 13 seasons, literally in the room when this happens:
Dean: multiple attempts on his life by Lucifer, loved by jack like a father, main character on the show for 13 seasons, literally in the room when this happens:
Castiel: killed by Lucifer multiple times, possessed by Lucifer, loved by jack like a father, main character on the show for 9 seasons, literally in the room when this happens:
Maggie: killed by Lucifer, met jack two episodes ago and barely interacted with him, literally introduced on the show two episodes ago, not in the room when this happens:
Supernatural: yes. Maggie is the one. Maggie is the one who will make Jack see what a monster his father TRULY is. She is such an important character on this show, so important than we will kill her off permanently less than a season later. Her impact is so real.
#supernatural#my shitposts#sam winchester#dean winchester#castiel#lucifer#jack kline#maggie#especially considering yknow#sam is about to be the one to protect Jack from Lucifer in two seconds#and also#has spent this season having an arc of getting revenge against Lucifer#while also raising his son#and also two episodes ago had the same fucking plot as maggie#where he got resurrected as a gift for jack by Lucifer#but noooo we have to waste air time rehashing this again with a character we and jack literally don’t know
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I've been thinking about how to push Hornblower to his breaking point recently and I think the best way to do it would be to put his compassion and his duty in conflict in a way where he could either be a good person and put his naval career in jeopardy, or be a tyrant but maintain his position. I think that these often come into conflict in the narrative, but he always finds some sort of loophole and manages to worm through without having to sacrifice either ideal. I think that it would be really fun to push him into a corner and make him choose, though. I can see both scenarios leading to interesting results.
#personally i do think he is actually often guilty of being less compassionate than he thinks he's being#which is also why i think he has a negative character arc. but that's just me#i do think he needs to be forced to choose between System and Ideals though i think that would be fun#i think you could make him desert like that it's the best i've got as a way to get him out of there#i understand that this is anathema to the adventure story protagonist who needs to always come out on top in every way#however. hornblower should not have been stuck in an adventure book he's wasted on it#perce rambles#percy yells at cecil scott#sorry for posting so much weird meta i just have a lot of Thoughts#side note: the doughty incident is one of the few cases where i think we nearly get this. however he doesn't ever face consequences#there's a couple of other points where i think it gets kind of close but cs forester always swerves at the last minute :/
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ngl if they end the season with the battle of the gullet after wasting harry collet's time and talent by completely cutting out jacaerys' storyline and having him do nothing the entire season i'm gonna lose my mind i think
#the writers hate him lowkey like#they completely cut his plot with cregan and the north#and have relegated him to the background ever since#like it'd be a complete waste to kill him off at the end of the season after refusing to do anything with him as a character#we get to watch criston and gwayne do shit that isnt entertaining and doesnt do anything for them as characters#meanwhile main characters baela and jace get 2min of screentime per episode no character arc no storyline#they led the council in rhaenyra's absence and we were TOLD we didn't even get to see it#everything abt team black that isnt abt rhaenyra or daemon has to happen off screen#but we need another alicent/criston sex scene. criston and gwayne marching through the forest. gwayne talking. aemond in the brothel again#i am clawing at the walls give jace and baela SOMETHING give them a valyrian wedding i beg. jace is politically savvy have him do SOMETHING#jacaerys velaryon#hotd#house of the dragon#harry collett#the writing choices have been truly baffling like. go off i guess#this show is like a really expensive fanfic that hates the source material. kinda like got
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Button pusher extraordinaire Dean Ambrose
#wwe#dean Ambrose#triple h#raw February 29 2016#her potential is lost on this arc. he needs a win or a heel turn. I know he won’t get it but damn#he’s wasted as jobber baby face. it stagnates his character and undermines the seething insecurity they build up during his heel#shield days#he compels me.
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Man the cursed sapphire in Peaky Blinders is so weird to me because it’s meant to be this big bad curse that claimed the live of someone Tommy loved and cared for and then came back a decade later to do it again.
But both times the death of a female character is used to be like “oh look at Tommy. Look at how sad he is and how self destructive he is in his grief. But he only drinks, fucks and represses his emotions through other questionable decisions because he’s a tortured soul who cares soo much even if he doesn’t show it. Look at this sad man, don’t you think he’s a good person deep down? Don’t you think he deserves to be redeemed?”
Both times it is used as nothing more than a quick, cheap way to make Tommy sad.
Curse of the sapphire? More like curse of lazily sacrificing female characters to prop up the main character.
#if it takes a character having their young daughter die from a wasting disease and then be told they also have the same disease#to try and redeem themselves and make up for all the horrible things they’ve done#then maybe that character isn’t a very good fit for a redemption arc#peaky blinders#tommy shelby#grace shelby#ruby shelby
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Zane being used as a fucking battery for Unagmi to get into the real world, and him walking it off like it's nothing fills me with so much viisceral rage it's unbelievable
What the FUCK do you mean he's fine??! Did you not see him literally pass out and wake up with an immediate inhale like he was drowning or something???
You don't just walk off being used as a battery, and no amount of cartoon logic will make me think otherwise ESPECIALLY seeing also how he seemingly walked off the whole Ice Emperor shit as well (until Quest for the Lost Powers)
Like, at the very least have him go into a panicked terrified franzy because according to him it felt exactly like his Sacrifice against the Overlord
Or if you wanna go all our just have it wipe all of his damn memories and make him start as a person all over again, even then that still works better if you make it a post Ice-chapter consequence
And even those besides, you could do soooooo much with Zane and consequences and the shit he goes through...
#ninjago#zane julien#Yeah#Ranting hours#I just get pissed off thinking about this tbh#Dragons Rising has really put a dent in my view of the whole Wildbrain era of the show#Because DR shows that you could have consequences or do mini arcs or small character development moments alongside the actual plot#Like the Frohickey and Zane thing while the others were off to get the dragon cores#Or Kai and Wyldfyre when Zane and Lloyd and Arin were in the Administration#Eupherasia for a good chunk of 'Writers of Destiny'#You get the picture#It's just disappointing to see that much potential go to waste...
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i miss kara...................
#what if i don't WANT to wait for the fucking tamaki action comics backups..... WJAT THEN???#using this post to complain about something only tangentially related:#i know this isn't pro-creator of me but i find it so annoying when an arc in action comics focuses solely on clark/lois—#—(and sometimes jimmy and perry) the non clois superfam members (esp thinking abt natasha + kenan + otho + osul) get so little to do—#—that it just feels like. i don't want to say ''wasteful'' bc that feels insulting but WHY are we not giving space to—#—characters that aren't already being given the spotlight....... is the superman title not enough!!#i wouldn't even be saying this if they'd at least include the extended daily planet and metropolis cast#i miss you cat grant and ron troupe and steve lombard and maggie sawyer and bibbo bibbowski and emil hamilton etc etc#daily planet solo comic following the lives of non lois and clark daily planet reporters WHEN#alright i think that's enough. i still miss kara though.
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the statements “catra was an extremely traumatized person who craved love and validation from her abusive mother and used unhealthy coping mechanisms because she wasn't taught how to deal with her own trauma” and “catra abused and tortured everyone around her and committed war crimes with no hesitation, and she did not deserve to be forgiven so easily” can and should coexist.
#saying this because some people still think that spop antis are all “catra needs to DIE she's an IRREDEEMABLE MONSTER”#listen to me a lot of us dislike catra because of the wasted potential#because she COULD have had a good redemption arc she COULD have stayed a complex and interesting character#but the writers decided that it was more important for her to smooch the person she's been abusing her whole life#a lot of us dislike catra because she relate to her and her arc was handled so badly#we don't want her to die we want her to face consequences of her actions and GROW and CHANGE#can you tell i'm a bit snappy today#anyway good morning#we relate to her**#spop critical#spop salt#spop#spop criticism#spop discourse#she ra#anti spop
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#very curious to know you guys' thoughts!#wot#wot on prime#the wheel of time#mat cauthon#tuon paendrag#wot book spoilers#wot show spoilers#(potentially)#i'm going for 'yes instead of egeanin'#because a) i can't think of a strong reason to transport mat out of the waste plotline and into the tanchico one#unless it's to absorb ebou dar and have him cross paths with tuon#and b) if tuon is our main seanchan in the tanchico plotline then egeanin would become superfluous imo#i also think it'd make sense to get all the major characters introduced by the end of s3#so that they'll be ready to swing into the endgame no matter how many total seasons they end up getting#not to mention that tuon DESPERATELY needs to be introduced sooner than she was in the books#if she's to get any semblance of a satisfying and well-developed character arc
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Thinking about a scenario where, after Hornet is taken to Pharloom, Ghost and Hollow proceed to gear up with whatever equipment they need to keep their memories while travelling through the wasteland and go after her kidnappers.
But by the time they arrive at Pharloom, the events of Silksong are either in the middle of happening or have already concluded, and since Hornet wasn’t given anything to retain her memories when she was captured, she doesn’t remember anything from Hallownest. Hornet doesn’t know who the two Vessels are, or even what a Vessel is, and as far as she knows Hallownest is some ancient ruined kingdom that she heard about maybe once in passing. Hornet just remembers waking up in that cage as she was brought into Pharloom, a couple blurry memories of being brought through the wastes, and whatever she went through in Pharloom.
Cue potential Angst.
#hollow knight#Silksong#Hollow Knight Hornet#Hollow Knight Ghost#Ghost and Hollow are going through their own full character arcs trying to cross the wastes and reach Hornet#but by the time they get there Hornet has no idea who they are#she just remembers some very blurry wasteland memories#her mind fully clearing up and memory becoming actually useable upon enter Pharloom#whatever horrors she’s been through so far in Pharloom#and a lot of gay thoughts about Lace that take up like 40% of her mind at any given moment#but she either refuses to admit that or hasn’t figured out the concept of Enemies/Rivals to Lovers yet#point is she has no memory of her original home life or siblings#which comes with its own implications even without the two vessels being there
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