#villains redemption and death

[prokopetz]

I don't disagree that it's often the case that the redeemed bad guy dies at the end because, as a society, we have fucked up ideas about justice and rehabilitation, but sometimes it's clear they got killed off less because the writers thought it was warranted and more because they were staring at the prospect of having to wrap up five separate character arcs in the next ten minutes and decided to start pruning.

[wisebeth]

why does the pjo series have to unnecessarily villainize goddesses (hera & athena) or show them as silly ladies (aphrodite & demeter) BUT posiedon and apollo are somehow shown as the coolest/most likeable gods, even though arguably, they're right after zeus on terms of corruption?

ares shown as the worst god after zeus and hera amuses me. last time i checked, he was the patron god of amazons and literally killed a man for attempting to rape his daughter but guess who cursed women for rejection? apollo. guess who raped women when they said no (aside from zeus)? posiedon.

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

not spop-related but i can't post this on my main blog so.

i do find it funny how most of the fan depictions of belos were far more interesting and detailed than s3 belos. i've seen fanart and fanfics of him where he's a complex villain struggling with religious guilt and then the canon is just like.. lmao yeah he's pure evil. kill him.

[gummismile]

Kai finally meets his pops.

Chapter 427.

[capturedpain]

Vincenzo eps 20

Spoiler:

BEST VILLIAN REDEMPTION I'VE EVER SEEN!

Honesty I thought this guy was an annoying airhead for most of the show but by the end he was so precious and actually so smart and enduring.

[pokemonruby]

oh and this part too — jacq you’re so innocent i need to get you away from this decrepit ghoul of a man

[mixmangosmangoverse]

Hello I'm randomly thinking about Healin Good PreCure for the first time in years and looking back at how wildly people misunderstood the point and expected every other season to follow a plot point that's very specific to it

[cocoabubbelle-newblog]

My personal opinion

Spoilers

Marvel Writers: Hank McCoy/Beast is irredeemable. He is a despicable villain. The version you will see in the upcoming comics is a clone of himself with only up to his mid-1980s memories/portrayal. If original Beast does come back, it will still be as a villain and he can never come back to the original team as a hero. He has no one to blame but himself.

[quirkyfries]

ooo ruin fans up in arms about today’s episode (it’s me. I’m ruin fans)

spoilers for today’s episode (Ruin’s wither shard) in tags

[bigskydreaming]

If the only conclusion you can come up with for your terrible character's redemption arc is for them to die heroically specifically BECAUSE you cant imagine how they could possibly go through another twenty years of life after that point, like what would they even do, how would people even react to them.......that might be a sign the terrible character isn't actually as redeemed as you're trying to convince yourself.

[villainous-redemption-au]

How did you meet dementia black hat

Note that Dementia was experimented on and lived in a test tube for the first 4 years of her time at Black Hat organizations, and she's been at BH. Org for 10 years. So she's been an actual member for 6 years

[digitalheart]

Begging and pleading on my fukin KNEES for MSM2 to inspire some new Parksborn content please my crops r DYING

[bonefall]

Unpopular opinion but I absolutely love Onestar. Like, he’s such a goddamn slightly insecure coward and it’s so fucking interesting. A leader who refuses help out of pride and accidentally orchestrates his own downfall. Earlier I saw a post made by someone (I forgot their user) that said Onestar’s motivation to help the clans and reveal the truth about Darktail should of been portrayed as more of a cowardly last attempt move AND I AGREE.

Following this statement above, do you have any plans for changing Onestar? Like the post I mentioned earlier I think has an absolutely amazing idea. Like changing his motivations for Darktail in the Bonefall Rewrite does fit the theme a lot better than “sudden change of heart”

Uhhh more like "CORRECT" opinion?

I think the post you're thinking of is this one by @cloudblaze who has a very big brain and I respect immensely

Onestar's AMAZING! Absolutely one of my favorite antagonists in the series. I love characters who are wrong in interesting ways and aren't always 'villainous.' I love characters who are the root of their own problems, whose archenemy is themselves.

I want him and Firestar to have a pointless battle-to-the-death pissing contest that Onestar demands, and he loses one of his 9 lives for no good reason. The Erins don't play around with the 9 lives nearly enough! Give me more blustering, useless displays of machismo! I am smashing two littlest petshop figures together.

So, I don't plan to 'change' him very much. Just make some stuff more consistent.

And he also gets featured much more in AVoS because of the POV change.

Bonefall AVoS

Breezepelt is a new major POV of AVoS. This is a WindClan and ShadowClan-centric arc. No shade to Twigbranch and Alderheart, but AVoS was NOT their story to tell.

It's an arc about mistakes, making up for them, and the concept of redemption.

It's also one of the hardest arcs I have to rewrite and I'm trying to thread a needle about The Kin, because I feel that as they were in-canon, they tell a pro-xenophobic story. It's very, very important to me that I fix that, while still allowing The Kin to be a malicious group. Read about it over here and I also tag it with #Bonefall AVoS if you'd like to see the ideas actively developing over conversations

So... anyway, that big bullet aside,

Onestar and Breezepelt are very important characters. There is a parallel between Onestar and Darktail, and Crowfeather and Breezepelt. By the end of this arc, Onestar comes to have a REAL reckoning with how he has a LOT of blame for this situation, Breezepelt feels like he's in such a deep pit of sin he'll never crawl out, and the younger generation is still paying for the mistakes of their forebears.

Drowning Darktail in the lake was originally Breezepelt's idea. I have some notes for the scene here, and I'm quite proud of the idea honestly, but CW for suicidal intent. It's the turning point where Onestar decides he can't let someone else pay for what he's done.

[musclesandhammering]

Unpopular opinion: I don’t want og!Loki to be in Valhalla after Thanos killed him, I want him to be the new ruler of Hel.

[cartoonfanaticmonsterrobotalien]

Mighty Solars in Taken Away From Me Ch. 8

One moment later on Emeralddon, Phoebe and Monica made it where they saw the city and boy, were they terrified.

Phoebe/Starburst: Okay, we’re here! Let’s go find the family!

Monica: Got it!

Monica carries Phoebe on her back then uses her speed to head to the town and then sees the soup vendor moaning from more wounds.

Phoebe/Starburst: Excuse me sir. Have you seen four aliens and a group of humans run by here?

Soup Vendor: I saw fucking saw them, they literally fucked me up and then this stupid-ass Shlorpian father refused to give me his wedding ring and there’s no way I’m telling ya!

Phoebe grows enraged after finding out he is talking about Korvo and punches him in the face. Monica then uses her super speed and hangs the vendor by the flaming pit as he screams.

Soup Vendor: AAAAAAAHHH! Alright, fuck! I’ll talk! I’ll talk! They’re heading to Emprese Ophelia!

Monica and Phoebe gasp as Monica drops the vendor as he screams. this scene is inspired by this scene:

Back in the dungeon, Korvo, still a super shlorpian, blast his way into the base, while overcoming the guards with his powers. The Replicabts and Pupa continue to cheer him on as they grow excited about this super form. Korvo then reached his destination as he began to power down and back into Quasarblast as he faints from exhaustion.

Korvo/Quasarblast: moaning

Yumyulack/Vil-Gil-An-T: Come on, get up Korv!

Phoebe/Staburst: running up to Korvo and the kids while calling out to them Korvo! Kids!

Korvo/Quasarblast: Phoebe? gets hug by Phoebe You’re here! Oh thank goodness

The kids join in on the group hug, clearly overjoyed to see their nanny.

Phoebe/Starburst: Monica got me here just in time? Can you walk?

Jesse/Fung-irl: Monica?

Yumyulack/Vil-Gil-An-T: She’s here? Where is she?

Phoebe/Staburst: grinning with a clever smirk Oh don’t worry, she and I have a plan!

Pupa/Mighty Pupa: Monica!

Phoebe/Starburst: Now come on, we have to save Terry!

The Mighty Solars race to save Terry as they see the dungeon but then gasp in horror about seeing the crowd and Ophelia. The heroes hid behind the crowd as they watch for Terry. Then, Ophelia approaches the microphone as he prepares to make her announcement.

Ophelia: My fellow Emeralnites! Today is new an era as we prepare to suck the energy out of the most prominent victims of all. He is the co-leader of the worst super heroes of all time, the Mighty Solars! He is the muscle! Father of Vil-Gil-An-T, Fung-irl and the Mighty Pupa! He is Quasarblast’s husband! Mighton!

Terry walks up up on to Ophelia while safely carrying Cheery in his arms. He then proceeds to growl at Ophelia as he began to restrain from his chains on his hands. Zolthar poke Terry’s back with his spear to get him up there. Once Terry made it up there, the Mighty Solars were shock and relived but horrified by the same time once they see Terry holding Cheery.

Mighty Solars: Terry!

Korvo/Quasarblast: Stop! runs up there to Terry with his family That’s my husband! Give me back my husband, you bitch!

Jesse/Fung-irl: You monster! Let go of my dad!

Ophelia: sarcastically Oh great, the Mighty Solars! How surprising!

Terry/Mighton: gasp and whispers to himself as he sheds tears of joy Oh my God, my family! They made it here! I knew it! then looks back at Ophelia angrily

Ophelia: Zolthar, please come up.

Zolthar: Yes my empress.

Korvo suddenly sees a daggar behind Ophelia’s back in her right hand and gasp in horror, realizing what she is about do!

Korvo/Quasarblast: Wait, look out!

Zolthar: gets stabbed in the torso by Ophelia as she screams in pain

Mighty Solars: gasp

Ophelia: You fucking pathetic miscreant, I knew you were weak, I knew someday you would regret joining me. Ever since the day I murdered your stupid-ass wife!

Zolthar: weakly Wh-what?!

Ophelia: Consider this your resignation!

Zolthar gasp as Ophelia pulls the dagger out of his stomach as blood spreads on the floor. Looking at Zolthar on the floor, Terry began to see red as he finally has enough of Ophelia.

Terry/Mighton: You…. fucking monster!

Ophelia: Oh shut the fuck up Terry! You and that girl are next! But first, hand over the prisoner you’re holding! Or else…..

Reaching his breaking point, Terry finally snaps as he screams in fury and splits apart the chains with his super strength while Cheery still hangs onto him while still being unconscious. Terry breaths angrily as he gets ready to confront Ophelia.

Terry/Mighton: I have fucking had it! You fucking monster! You motherfuckers have been mustering innocent life forms for years and gone crazy! But, now you made a fucking wrong move by coming to Earth-4 and kidnapping me and the other humans who have been disappearing this year! You messed up a young woman with a broken heart! You try to hunt down my family! And you… tried to fucking kill me! But no one! I repeat! No one fucking messes with my family, you bitch!

Terry punches Ophelia and began to fight her with his super strength. He then still carries Cheery but then see her state not so good. Terry then tries to figure out how to get Cheery to safety without her getting hurt.

Terry/Mighton: Aw fuck! I have to get Cheery to safety but how?

Ophelia uses her powers to throw shimmering purple rocks at him as Terry ducks. The human allies made it, only to see Terry in trouble.

Sherbert: Oh no! Mighton’s in trouble!

Korvo/Qausarblast: gasp Mighton! Hang on!

Suddenly, he hears coughing as he sees Zolthar slowly dying from he wounds as he coughs up blood.

Korvo/Qausarblast: Oh no! Hang on!

Zolthar: No…. your husband was right… I was doing this out of grief… I foolishly lost the woman I love to a murderous tyrant…. I should’ve listen to him… what the fuck I was thinking…. Suddenly sees Korvo’s robe crystal Well, just in time for the fall solstice…. I was wrong about you Shlorpians… you have so much hope, kindness and potential…. we should’ve been more like this…

Korvo/Qausarblast: Oh yeah! Now I remember the fall solstice!

Jesse/Fung-irl: Damn we forgot! Every 10 years, a Shlorpian is granted powerful essence that gives them power! But it has to be contain for good or else up in the sky! Or dangerous side effects take hold!

Korvo/Qausarblast: I know but… reach out his hand for Zolthar Please sir… hold on.

Zolthar: No…. I don’t deserve it…. I’m sorry the guard and I stole your husband away from you…. go… save him….

Zolthar finally perishes into a shimmering light as the heroes watch in amazement.

Yumyulack/Vil-Gil-An-T: Damn, after all that…. he’s now at peace….

Jesse/Fung-irl: Yeah…..

Korvo/Qausarblast: eyes started to green as an idea suddenly pops up in his head once he sees the solstice closing in Family, I got an idea.

After a group huddle and some whispering, the Mighty Solars get ready for battle as Korvo began to transform into his super Shlorpian form.

Korvo/Qausarblast: Hang in there Terry. transforms into his super Shlorpian form and flies up

Jesse/Fung-irl: Let’s go fam!

Yumyulack/Vil-Gil-An-T: Now guys!

The human allies and the prisoners charge for battle as they battle the corrupted Emeralnites. Vil-Gil-An-T uses his laser eyes to blast three of them while working together with Fung-irl to keep the Emeralnite away from them and the other prisoners. The two siblings nod at each other as they resumed fighting with the Emeralnites. Principal Cooke punches an Emeralnite with his fist, but then his hand started to throb as he groans. He gasp once he sees an Emeralnite with hammer. But, then Miss Frankie came up with a bat.

Miss Frankie: Stop trying to kill my man!

Miss Frankie smashes the Emeralnites as she and Principal Cooke French kisses and resume for battle. Sherbert and Phoebe worked together to stop each of the Emeralnites. Then, Phoebe heads one heading after her and kicks them out of her away. Pupa uses his telekinesis to stop three of them while Ms. Perez steals a crossbow and shoots at the Emeralnites. All of the Emeralnites are now defeated as the human allies and the Mighty Solars strand in triumph. But then, they notice Korvo up in the sky, ready to seal away his super Shlorpian form as it starts to happen. But then, Terry who is trying to get away from Ophelia, gets hit by a rock, which causes him to let go of Cherry as she falls on the floor.

Terry/Mighton: Cheery! No!

Terry runs up and looks down at Cheery as he tries to pick her up, but then, Ophelia prepares to levitate a rock and throw it at Mighton. Suddenly, a vine appears which shows Fung-irl using using her fungus power to save her father!

Jesse/Fung-irl: Get away from my adult you motherfucker!

But then, Ophelia throws a rock at Jesse as she falls to the floor and gasp.

Terry/Mighton: Fung-irl!

Just then, a mysterious silhouette appears up on the ceiling as she falls down and uses her super speed that turns into an orchid lightening tornado, faster than a sonic boom. The tornado then surrounds Ophelia as she receives a several punches in the face and gets knock out. The tornado fades away and the person is revealed to be a new teenage superhero girl wearing some type of speedster suit, the teenage girl turns out he none other than…..

Jesse/Fung-irl: gasp in delight Monica?!

Monica/???: What up bestie?! Hugs Jesse

Jesse/Fung-irl: looks at Ophelia who was regaining to regain her from her concussion Hang in there, ya spoiled whore! turns to Monica I can’t believe it, you got super speed?

Monica/???: Yeah! Definitely!

Ophelia: coughs and looks at Monica Who the fuck are you?

Monica/???: You can me…. Lightspeed!

Monica gets into her superhero pose as a heroic orchid lightning background appears.

Monica/Lightspeed: And your reign of kidnapping other alien races for your godawful energy is fucking over! Stand down, you bitch!

Ophelia: looks at Korvo sealing away his super Shlorpian form No! I have a better idea!

Ophelia prepares to levitate a spear at Korvo. Terry, quickly seeing this, gasp and grows enraged.

Terry/Mighton: Grrr! Stay away from my husband you motherfucker!

Mighton pummels Ophelia while Monica sees Cherry and ran up to grab her.

Monica: grabs Cheery Gotcha! runs with her super speed Hold on, I’m gonna put you right there. gives Cheery to Sherbert was willing to hold her

Terry and Ophelia continue to fight as he gives the vile empress a blow to the head. Ophelia got out her dagger as she prepares to stab him. But then, Terry sees a reflector and blinds her wit the light shining in her eyes as Ophelia screams. Terry then kicks Ophelia as the two continue to fight. fight scene is a reference to this:

With enough time, the solstice ends as Korvo’s super Shlorpian form is sealed away from him for good as he turns back into his normal Shlorpian self as Quasarblast. He floats gently down to the ground as Vil-Gil-An-T and Fung-irl catches him easily.

Korvo/Qausarblast: sighs To be honest, invisibility is way better than this type of power. sees Terry struggling to defeat Ophelia and gasp

Terry/Mighton: Grrr! It’s over Ophelia, call off the ceremony.

Ophelia: Graaaahhh! prepares to strike at Mighton

Suddenly, her spear disappear from her hands as it suddenly starts floating and was strike right into Ophelia’s heart as glass shattering are heard in the background. Qausarblast then turns visible again from his invisibility as he shoots a serious stern look on his face towards the corrupted empress as Terry does the same towards the villainess that nearly ruined his life.

Korvo/Qausarblast: Nobody messes with my man, you stupid bitch!

Ophelia’s body began to shatter as she gasp in horror. She then looks at the Mighty Solars one more time, because for the first time in many years, the dark corrupted empress is finally defeated, for good.

Ophelia: NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The empress explodes and shatters into a million pieces of emerald shards as everyone looks in shock. Terry then suddenly sees Zalthor’s spirit reuniting with the spirit of his dead as he embraces her. Now finally reunited and at peace with each other, Zolthar and his wife’s spirit heads up towards the sky as their spirits peacefully faded away. Terry waves goodbye at them. Then, the family ran up to him in joy as they finally reunite with them.

Terry/Mighton: Staburst! Kids!

Pupa/Mighty Pupa: Mighton! leaps at Terry and hugs him in joy

Yumyulack/Vil-Gil-An-T: sighs happily as he pats Terry on the back as he smiles at his father

Jesse/Fung-irl: crying as she hugs her father and whispers Terry…. I was so worried… I though she-

Terry/Mighton: whispers as he soothes Jesse Shh…. it’s okay Jesse-bear. Terry’s here.

Phoebe/Starburst: Mighton, oh thank God! hugs Terry

Korvo then runs up to Terry and hugs him in joy. The two Mighty Solar husbands then shed tears of joy as they glance lovingly at each other and the two superhero alien spouses embrace in a passionate reunion kiss. The humans cheered as they see Qausarblast and Mighton kiss each other lovingly as the Mighty Solars finally reunite. The two husbands finish kissing as they happily embrace their kids and nanny. Lightspeed then approaches them while smiling.

Korvo/Qausarblast: Lightspeed, thank you for helping us. You’re welcome here.

Monica smiles and hugs Korvo and Terry who were surprised at first, but they smiled and hugs her back. Terry then looks at Cheery who is starting to recover.

Terry/Mighton: Come on everyone, let’s go home.

And with that said, the finally reunited Mighty Solars and the humans are ready to return home as they head to the ship, ready to go back to Earth-4.

[danwhobrowses]

Stress. Pain. Sam.