#vengeance saga livestream

[theexhaustedqueer]

Some of Jorge’s very silly commentary during the stream

[sleepywriter00]

Y'all it happened again!!!!😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[epicthemusicalstuff]

MADE IT HOME JUST IN TIME FOR THE VENGEANCE SAGA LIVESTREAM

[judastarkid]

the only text i sent my brother during the livestream

[littler3d]

Jaw? On the floor

Microphone? Dropped

Trident? In a god

Odysseus being able to sleep? Next to his wife

[yellowrabbitfurry]

”With all you’ve done, how will you sleep at night?”

“Next to my WIFE”

[majorvagabond]

For a brief second, I genuinely thought that Odysseus was going to "there are other ways of persuasion" out of Poseidon's grasp due to my ass thinking I heard the starting instrumentals of there are other ways in Get in the water

[roseyswords]

Vengeance saga Thoughts/ more specifically 600 Strike thoughts

SPOILERS BELOW

So I like many others have a bit more complicated thoughts about the ending of the vengeance saga. But I come out of it with ultimately one feeling on top of the others which is respect. I have a lot of respect for this ending as an artist.

Sure there are parts of it that I find a little ridiculous (ie.the jet pack fight), but there are other parts of it that I love so much ( ie. The stabbing scene).

Because at the end of the line it was a choice that stands where it is even if it might be divisive or not quite what everyone wants from it. Which is fine honestly, it is more than fair that not every fan is on board with its decision. Because art isn't supposed to make everybody like it, it's supposed to make the people that like it love it.

Jorge has been very open about his anime inspirations for the musical, and it's written all over it. And here is where it makes itself known the strongest in an unmistakeably strong way. It wears its inspirations and heart on its sleeve and basked in it.He invoked the rule of cool so hard this saga. And as an artist, as someone who loves making stories and loves the art of storytelling itself it makes me really inspired. I love and respect the hell out of seeing an artist go this is how I'm going to make my story go, because this is how I'm going to be happiest about it.

And it is perfectly fine for people to see that and say that they did not like where that decision went. To say this isn't for them. The people that don't like it won't like it and the people that do will love it.

[vivaballerina]

The Vengeance Saga was something else.

Calypso- my sweet, delulu, cinnamon roll 😭 I love you so much. But I hate you so much. I will drop kick you, then give you cuddles.

2. DANGEROUS WAS SUCH A BOP. I knew it would be. Also the same “Hermes- thank you!” Thing was just 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼 and then the hint of Athena was just 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼

3. Ody talking to Charybdis has the same vibes as him explaining to the sirens and I don’t know why yet but I love it.

4. I’ve. Been. WAIIITINGGG. For. Get. In. The. Water. HHHHJJJJBSKKJSKIWJS IT DELIVERED. CHILLS. VIBES.

5. Oh. My. Gods. I just- it just- jaw dropped. Everything about the song- I didn’t think I’d like it so much, but it’s my favorite from the saga. Aeolus’s motif playing through the battle while he used the wind bag- the Open Arms jumpscare, (of course), but my god THE ENDING. First- Poseidon calling Ody a monster- chills. Poseidon begging and screaming- chills.

After all you’ve done… how will you sleep at night?

Next to my wife.

[hampter-nicky]

Me when the vengace saga livestream is at 4 am where I am

[bestiainfinita]

//SPOLER WARNING FOR THE VENGEANCE SAGA LIVESTREAM//

Everyone leave their condolences to this oficial animatic / part of the animatic that didn’t made it into the Listening Party. (We never know what we have until we lose it 😢😭)

Also give your condolences to the Vengeance Saga Cover Art cause it never appear / got dropped during the Live Stream either. (Unlike others like the Troy, Cyclops or Circe Saga Cover Arts)

[100blueberries]

(Words in all caps are for emphasis, not shouting, I’m just not sure how to italicize a single word and not the entire paragraph on mobile. None of this is meant to be negative towards the people who have been involved with making Epic)

Im going to be honest, I don’t like the fact that Odysseus has an anime move (Six Hundred Strike) or that with the wind-bag-jetpack he was on the same physical level/plane in the frame as Poseidon

If he used the wind bag just to get back to his raft, I guess fine (still not really a fan but I’ll accept it) but fighting Poseidon while in the air? No. At the end of the day, he is mortal. He is not SUPPOSED to be on the same level as the gods, and having him beat Poseidon would be SO MUCH MORE SATISFYING (in my opinion) if he wasn’t on the same level as him power-wise. I understand the artistic show of them being on the same power level by having them be at the same height in the air, but I don’t think Odysseus SHOULD be on the same level.

He is JUST A MAN. Even Poseidon’s anime-move is called a God Move on screen in the livestream, and even though Odysseus’s didn’t have it written on screen, he still had a God Move, which is Six Hundred Strike.

But he’s NOT a god and I feel like giving him the ability to do whatever Six Hundred Strike was (which came out of nowhere and which he will probably never do again) lessened the power of a GOD being defeated by a MORTAL

And then to have him go back to Penelope and Telemachus and Ithaca and, while he is a monster to the suitors, we know that Just A Man makes a come back in at least part of Would You Fall in Love With Me Again but if he is on the level of a god, not just a very impressive mortal, but ON THE SAME PLANE as a god like he was with the bag-jetpack and Six Hundred Strike, then he is no longer Just a Man. But he isn’t a god and he isn’t meant to be, he is meant to still be just a man

Is it powerful sound wise? Sure! There’s a lot of power behind the voices! Story wise? It feels like undeserved deux ex machina which should be hard for this play where there are literal gods showing up and helping him out or otherwise interacting with him and that’s been an established thing from the first song. There’s a reason Odysseus didn’t fight Poseidon head on in the original, and from a story-telling standpoint, it’s likely because it’s wicked hard to do without making Odysseus more than human, more than just a man

[ironsoftie]

Just your average watch party experience.

[epicthemusicalstuff]

I’ve been waiting

For this moment

For the vengeance saga to be out-

(LIVESTREAM IS SOON YALL! HERE IS THE LIVESTREAM LINK!!!)

[yourcurrentany]

(End of “thunder bringer”)

I feel you Jorge, I fe-

Meh doesn’t matter, look, it’s Telemachus!! :D

[littler3d]

You know what would be really funny? If we never hear from Athena again

Is she dead?

Probably not but we’re never gonna know it’s gonna be a big mystery in 20 years when Epic goes onstage. There will be video essays about it