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Twins AU Canon Ouma Twins Reference Sheet
It's official--these designs are the FINAL CANON DESIGNS for Twins AU! I'm not allowed to tinker with them anymore, I'll be arrested if I do. @trans-shuichisaihara will arrest me. He will. Guys I'm scared.
In this AU, I decided to just scrap Kokichi's hat entirely--it was ruining the aesthetic, and I think the cape is more than enough to make him look "leader-like."
I went HAM on the capes design to kind of make up for it.
Edit: I don't know how it happened but the layer showing Kokichi's lockpicks and Kurochi's lock and key got turned off. I'm annoyed fndsjnfkjs but hey here's it fixed.
#Kokichi Ouma#Kurochi Ouma#Danganronpa V3#DRV3#Twins AU#Not me taking a design element from Deca's design to add as a decorative trim....#hey I made it so you know#Anyway#my art#fan art#redesign
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Twinswapped Shiki au, how would everyone thinking that prison realm made Satoru go insane react to a 'Satoru-Shiki' reuniunion & As much as u can say without spoilers? Also, where does the Satoru of that world go, exactly? are the 'swapped' aus all connected in a way?
Initial reactions would be, 'Two Gojo senseis??' Canon Gojo gets his body back, Twins Satoru and Shiki get each other back, and there's probably a lot of confusion while people demand explanations. The Twins probably aren't very happy with canon Gojo because he's the one who got himself stuck inside Prison Realm and kickstarted this whole mess, but they'll cut him some slack.
He's the one stuck in a messed up world where so many people are dead and gone. Including Suguru.
Technically we have two twin swap AUs going on right now, but they're both tagged '#twin swap au' since i'm scared that this is going to turn into the bastard au all over again (i think the tags are up to v3, and we actually have 4 bastard AUs going on or something).
Twin Swap AU v1: Canon Satoru and Twins!Satoru switch places. Canon Satoru lands in Twins verse in Twins!Satoru's body with Shiki as a startled roommate. Twins!Satoru takes a trip to canon-verse in his canon counterpart's body.
Twin Swap AU v2: Canon Satoru and Twins!Shiki switch places. Shiki goes to canon in canon-Satoru's body, causing everyone to think that Prison Realm drove Gojo insane. In Twins verse, the two Satorus are having A Time with each other.
Aside from the shared premise, these two AUs are unrelated to each other.
#QA#zenith of stars au#twin swap au#......#twin swap au v1#twin swap au v2#if we start going v3 v4 v5 on this i'm going to start screaming#orz
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Here’s some more ideas for fanart- Chihiro and Chiaki reacting to the Minecraft movie trailer.
-Your Gyaru design of Byakuya and Junko in an au where they’re like, rival models or something.
-Sakura in a cute cottagecore dress.
-Somebody (you decide who) introduced all of the Warriors Of Hope to skibidi toilet.
-Gonta playing Animal Crossing. (I feel like he’d love it)
-Mukuro playing Call of duty or some other war game.
(Since it’s spooky month, here are some Halloween adjacent ones)
-Junko and Mukuro as Ghostface from scream
-Hajime and Izuru as the twins from the shining
-Gundham and Sonia as Jack Skellington and Sally
-A Coraline AU where Makoto/Hajime/Shuichi/Kaede/Whoever you want is Coraline
-Ibuki playing Spooky Scary Skeletons on her guitar for her class
-The Warriors Of Hope go trick or treating
-Yasuhiro goes to a haunted house (either a fake one with actors, or like, a real one with actual ghosts) and is terrified. (Also works for Kaito since he’s terrified of ghosts too. If the ghosts are real maybe this takes place in your ghost au and they’re his classmates)
-Komaru casually talking to a ghost (since she can canonically see ghosts) Neither her nor the ghost realize that Toko walked in on them talking and now she’s just watching Komaru talk to air (from her perspective), and is very concerned. This one also works for your ghost au, maybe the ghost is one of her brother’s classmates.
-The design of a ghost from that au that you haven’t drawn yet.
-Ghost Kokichi and Miu getting into a fight
-Ghost Chihiro watching Byakuya tamper with his crime scene
-All the v1 ghosts in your au watching that one part in trial 5 where Hiro accuses Kyoko of being a ghost. They’re all facepalming.
-Ghost Sayaka not getting how it takes everyone so long to figure out 11037
-Ghost Rantaro+ all the other ghosts watching that one part in trial 3 where Tsumugi says that Rantaro’s ghost must be the killer.
-Ghost Hiyoko Fortnite dancing while Mikan’s getting executed in the background.
-A ghost trying to comfort their living friend/partner that can’t see them (Sakura/Aoi, Peko/Fuyuhiko, Tenko/Himiko, Kaede/Shuichi, Gundham/Sonia, Mondo/Taka, and some more but I don’t want to list them all. this can work for any pairing really, pick whichever you like best)
-Ghost Celeste and ghost Hifumi getting into a fight
-Ghost Hiyoko and ghost Mikan getting into a fight
-An alternate universe where the seance in V3 works, like for whatever reason Kiyo’s sabotage was unsuccessful but the seance was so Angie just…tells them what happened and the trial lasts 5 minutes.
-Ghost Chihiro and Ghost Chiaki reuniting after V2 ends.
(Hope you like at least some of these! Sorry if this was too long!)
I wanna appreciate this person for like almost doubling how long the list was I love you
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Yuesya Masterlist
From @yuesya blog. Hope it helps everyone, cuz i sure get confused with all these AUs
Edited and updated with some AUs i missed New edit on the sixth of january 2024
Twins au
Twin cannon
Twin swap au *V1 *V2
Bastard Shiki Au
Toji's Bastard au and fannart
Bastard au V3
Heian Shiki
Shiki in cannon Kenjaku's reaction to it
Same age au
Older sister au
Technique swap
Daughter au
Twin dimension travel : part 1?, part 2
Mother au and fanart and fanart 2 And Bad end mother AU
Demon slayer au
Nanami-Kenjaku
Male Shiki au
Edit! I checked and realised i forgot some AUs, here they are!
Shiki actually answer Getou's question like a normal human being AU
Shiki vs Satoru
Older Shiki AU (not to be confused with older sister AU)
Chainsaw man AU
Shiki goes to Kyoto school AU
Shiki goes to universe where Kenjaku possessed her corpse AU Genshin AU and actual first talks of said AU here
Shiki(gami) AU
Cursed spirit Shiki AU
Second MEoDP user Shiki AU
Chainsaw man AU
#@yuesya#zenith of stars#zenith of stars au#twins au#twins swap au#mother au#heian Shiki#older sister au#honestly i'm too lazy to tag them all#how the fuck do you get this many au#this took me too long#might have missed aus#might add them later might not#heavy respect to yuesya#i did try to link all the post#but my pc almost crashed so...#i swear the ask are sometimes worse than the answers wtf#why so many au#actually very interested in a few of them but they don't get many updates or asks#amazing work on Yuesya's part
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is there anything on ur iceberg ud like to expand on in particular? all of it is sooo good 2 me and im rlly interested in ur thoughts. all the junko ones in particular are SO GOOD u get her!!!
(cw: cannibalism, Junko stuff)
thank you!!! here's a few random JUNKOS ones i'll expand upon:
Junko originally considered sparing her classmates: taken from a translated interview where Kodaka says that he wanted to do an OVA where a truly happy Junko would have had to work up the "resolve" to enact her last plan. i mourn that we never got this OVA every single day
Monokubs meant to represent aspects of Junko's personality: kind of Complicated, but pretending that Moogs' story is mostly right, i like to think corporate added the Monokubs to give a dash of personality-shifting Junko to the game before the reveal, for long-time watchers. the kubs are heavily Junko-coded to me
Junko has no real sexuality or opinions on anything: she is both a bigot and not a bigot, gay or not gay, genderfucked or not, trans or not trans, depending on How She Can Hurt You. to me, she long ago lost the ability to have any worldview besides trying to feel psychic damage and inflict it on others
Junko & Remnants were all cannibals: this in itself is the tip of the iceberg of some of the things she and the Remnants probably did, but for Junko specifically, she def ate Mondo Butter and maybe some of her other classmates too. we have lots of evidence she has a sort of weird "wants to be one with everyone" complex (Junkoland, her monologue about being twins w/ Mukuro) and what better way than to nomnomnom on human flesh
DR world already a dystopia before Junko arrived: Junko just tipped the scales. (the fact that HPA openly had an Ultimate Soldier/SHSL Merc who certainly joined up as a minor, which we know for a fact from DR1, should be all one needs to know...but there's other stuff going on, too.) btw: true in both the main timeline and in the nice AU. arguably more true in the nice AU because while we're missing Ultimate Merc (Mukuro attends as Junko, no one knows Mukuro) the V3s are all there too and very much real (so we have Maki etc)
AI Junko not a continuation of the real one but separate entity: just aligns with what the DR universe tells us about other AIs/its AI rules. there's lots about how Alter Ego is not Chihiro and Kodaka recently confirmed AI Chiaki was not the same girl as OG Chiaki (+ she says so directly in DR3)
Junko genuinely wanted to get Makoto to hook up with some girls thru Monokuma: just a silly one. in my head, before the Despairening(tm), Junko was kind of a wingwoman for Makoto because she has a little crush on him and it hurt her real fuckin' good to try to get him with other girls. this continues into the killing game where she uses Monokuma to constantly tease him into being a pervert. she is the biggest Makoto Harem fantasizer
appreciate the question! please enjoy!
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I made more
Tsumugi's hair was a pain to draw, reason of procrastination.
I also took the student rooms from v3 and added it as a background. I probably might place this au in a non-despair world.
(I might put Lila as Kaede's twin sister or probably Tsumugi as someone recommended, switching up roles a little.)
Here are the original photos as well, from Manlybadasshero's playthrough.
#artists on tumblr#ibispaintx#danganronpa shuichi#danganronpa v3#shuichi saihara#danganronpa tsumugi#tsumugi shirogane#danganronpa au#danganronpa who's lila#who's lila#whos lila#oh my god im so tired#i drew these while in a party and holy hell it was overwhelming#need a moment to BREATHE
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“Well, it seems like Kaito’s preoccupied. I should continue gathering apples, so we can move on when he’s finished playing with Kokichi.” He scooped up the basket half full of apples he’d been carrying. Kurochi stood as well. After a moment of hesitation, he replied, “Let me help. It wouldn't be fair to have you do all of Kaito’s work on your own.”
wrote more pokemon au stuff bc i have a lot of fun with it. in the same universe as my other fic and ofc still featuring @rubberduckyrye's twins au kurochi bc i adore him and think he should be allowed to kiss kiss fall in love someday
#kurochi ouma#kokichi ouma#shuichi saihara#kaito momota#oumota#drv3#shuochi#my post#fanfic#pkmn au#this is entirely self indulgent and i don't care#i will write only what i want to write#and that means i will always write things with kurochi because he's one of my special little blorbos
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For the twins AU. I can’t help but wonder what Ruby and Yangs reactions would be once they meet Saphron.
Would there be even more young Jaune pictures that get shown? Did Jaune tell Saph about Yang when they met up again in Aurgus? Hell did Jaune tell Yang much about any of his sisters? Would Yangs reaction to Adrian differ much? Does Yang ask Saph for dating advice?
Sorry if this is a longer ask I am just so full of questions. (Btw I absolutely love this AU)
Oh yeah, Saphron breaks out the whole family album. She’s also freaking stoked to meet her two new sisters after hearing so much about them
I imagine Jaune told his family that he found his birth family some time before the CCT goes down, probably in V2 or early V3. The Arcs we’re gonna come visit, because they’re so happy their boy found someone from his past, but then ya know… the Fall
So the Arcs, and Saphron by extension, already know about Yang and Ruby. Also just because Jaune wanted to tell them about his friends
Jaune totally tells Yang about his sisters. After all, as far as he’s concerned, they’re HER sisters, too. Yang doesn’t want to impose, but Saphron welcomes her with a big Arc hug like she’s known Yang her whole life
The whole Adrien thing probably goes about the same, aside from Jaune maybe showing her pics of his nephew back at Beacon. But pictures don’t compare to the adorable mess of the real thing
I don’t think Yang would ask Saphron for dating advice. After all, she’s still figuring out this whole liking girls thing, and at the time when they’re staying at the house the whole “we’re protecting each other” scene hasn’t happened yet
So sadly I don’t think it would come up
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Crack au
OK, everything goes as planned up until appears & makes the copy twins. For plot reasons the original backup eclipse exist at the same time.
The fun part. There are two bodies for all the celestial’s excluding ruin. A large non-sentient pilot celestial model that they can control. And their actual bodies.
What are their actual bodies? Cats. Ruin is the only one that’s actually a celestial animatronic. The only ones who knew about this prior to the show were the human staff. No one else knew until Monty had to make lunar his second body (he was informed the first one was getting blown up for plot)
Secret revealed the day got bombed because blood moon interrogated on the Norwegian forest cat that was sun.
Little extra fun plot point that happens after the October takeover, everyone’s trying to figure out where the heck the actual body of the copy twins are when it suddenly powers down and ruined is the one that has to bring it to a charger because literally every other animatronic cat body is either being rebuilt or charging. Everyone agrees that they need to find the copy twins immediately, and after a while of searching solar ends up, finding them in kitten bodies. Needless to say the twins got a new dad
Cat breeds:
Sun, moon & earth: Norwegian Forest cats
KC: Maine coon
Umbra (OG eclipse): oriental short hair
Bloody & harvest (OG twins): bengals
Lunar: healthy munchkin
Back up eclipse (name pending): Donskoy
Solar: siamese
North star (v3/4): Abyssinian
Winter and snow moon (copy twins): Devon Rex kittens
Jack: Japanese bobtail
Nexus: Sokoke
(little fun fact this ruin genuinely had a virus. He truly is the goofball he was pretending to be in Cannon)
☀️🌙
Love this.
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Some basic info for my killcode swap au
The next post will been the other have of the characters basic info/idea for them
Characters here are: Sun, Roxanne, Moon, Luna, Eclipse, Erath, Ruin, Bloodmoon twins, Solar, Monty, Killcode
Characters I have to info next are: Dazzle/Evelyn, razzle/Jonathan, Jack'o'moon, creator, Nexus, solstice (dark sun), Foxy, puppet
Sun
· one of his rays is missing because of moon riping it off
· is dating Roxanne
· he act like normal sun but lot smarter
· when he met Roxanne for the first time HE was a simp 😭
· SLUTY ass body/hj/jk
· has the killcode (lol obvious)
· matching bracelets w/ Roxanne
Roxanne
· when sun reset she didn't date that sun it felt wrong, but when sun came back him and her took it slow mainly for her to get used to him again
· is trans male to female
· fashion queen
· matching bracelets w/ Sun
Moon
· like og moon but a bit more crazyer like out of context like how ruin was but not really 😭
· he just a silly who made the star
· ripped off suns ray and don't not care about it tbh he just silly
Lunar(V1)
· sassy AF butttt he acts like his og self form the benign of the show but just more meaner
· doesn't really care for the star but he did try to get it, giving up in the end
(V2) Lunar
· ????
(V3) Lunar
· ???
· Bloodmoon.. remade him? Why?
(V4) Lunar
· has an "ok" relationship with everyone
· he has an soft spot for Solar the two hang out a lot(well not really but it's a good amount of time the two hang out)
Eclipse
· still the same but kinder he is not dealing w/the star stuff
· doesn't have star power
· "Roxy ple-"
Erath
· the science technology girlly but she is more let's say softer the og Erath in personality wise
· she is always quite never talking unless it's needed
· adopted ruin she fixed his code a bit and made him less murdery which helped alot
· single, she finds relationships point less
Ruin
· meow meow meow meow
· calls Erath mother
· just realizing that he is just jack'o'moon sighs oh well idc he is swapped w/ bloodmoon
· likes cats, stars, napping, and blood
· he likes playing with Erath hair
· SKITTLES!!
· still from another universe
Bloodmoon twins
· both in the same body
· likes blood still not crazy about it tho
· theater Bois
· probably like Hamilton
· vary fancy
· lunar made him
· for some reason like watching TV static
Solar
· not really sure about how I should make him lolz but he was like seen once not really a big character in the show
· freaky man 😔
· is a therapist
Monty
· like game Roxanne, SELF-CENTERED
· likes Erath but brushed it off
Killcode
· a sun version of og killcode
· his name is "Murdercode" and not "killcode"
· kinda of a asshol
· redemption arc? Probably not
#killerzyspost#sun and moon show#killerzysrambling#sams au#killcode swap au#sams lunar#tsams bloodmoon#tsams eclipse#tsams ruin#eaps puppet#tsams moon#sams solar#laes earth#tsams sun#tsams monty#tsams killcode
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The AUs of the Twins
Ghost AU Ouma Twins Reference Sheet
So in actuality this isn't an official AU I'm working on by any means....... but I drew the BETA designs for Kokichi and Kurochi in Twins AU, back when it was just a couple of out of order fics posted on Ao3? Sort of as a patient Zero on the designs. Except I wanna show the art off so I was like "I need to bullshit an AU--oh! Dead Rochi AU, perfect!"
Anyway this AU isn't real and cannot hurt me. It's not real and cannot hurt me... The twins must always be together...
Ahem.
Canon Kokichi's cape is the most boring of all, sadly...
Still, in an AU where Kurochi died when he was 12, Kokichi would look like his canon self and Rochi as a ghost would probably mirror him. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
Phantom Thieves AU Ouma Twins Reference Sheet
No u do NOT get to see Kokichi without his cape and mask, because I'm lazy. I've also gotten too lazy to separate the twins out into their own files so please forgive me I am Tired.
The back of Kokichi's outfit looks exactly like Rochi's so there's no need to really show it off here, right? I--FUCK. ROCHI'S LEG DOESN'T HAVE THE BLACK STRAPS ON THE BACK POSE. Ah well they're supposed to be there but I cannot be fucked.
Also remember how I was like "What if D.I.C.E. had a masquerade theme instead of a clown theme? This is the result of that. Kind of. It's actually the result of me putting the canon Twins AU cape on this old Twins AU redesign and putting on the P5AU persona mask for Kokichi on too, making a very interesting design! The hat was tackled on at the end to make it look real PT like.
Not really an official AU or anything, just for funsies and I didn't want to let these designs go to waste so I repurposed them.
Persona 5 Awakened Ouma Twins Reference Sheet
Okay so these designs have some themes I wanna talk about!
Kokichi's theme of rebellion is "Prince meets Robin hood, decides that eating the rich is a good idea, becomes new Robin Hood." Which is a bit of a mouthful but it fully explains Kokichi's design for the P5AU. He's from a wealthy family that he hates, and he wants to punish the rich bastards who hurt people by giving them a Change of Heart. Kokichi's cloak is themed after the phases of the moon and a bird chasing after the guiding star.
Kurochi's theme of rebellion is about reclaiming the childhood he never had. He's supposed to look like an extremely goofy, cartoon spy with his mask literally being those gag spy glasses and having a prop newspaper that probably has eye holes in it. He's even got a utility belt and everything. People often forget what his mask looks like when they haven't seen it in a while and they get shocked and laugh each time.
This AU is the only AU currently where the Twins don't actually match one another--and it's because it's their inner selves making the outfits that are fitting for their rebellion.
Bonus:
He looks so much more like a phantom thief here LMAO.
#kokichi ouma#kurochi ouma#danganronpa v3#drv3#persona 5#Phantom Thieves AU#Ghost AU#Posting these all together because I didn't wanna spam#but I did want the Twins AU outfits to be on their own post#so enjoy guys!
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Wait okay so like. The twin swap au where shiki gets swapped with canon gojo, canon gojo still has his own body right? he doesn’t get punted into twin!gojo’s body?
But like…. What if… He did…
Also like.
What was twin!gojo’s reaction to finding another gojo but missing his sister? Also is twin!gojo weaker without shiki?
Anon don't do this to me that's going to be a twin swap au v3 if Twins!Shiki and canon Gojo are sharing canon Gojo's body. ;;;
To reiterate, twin swap v2: Twins!Shiki and canon Gojo swap places. Twins!Shiki gets Gojo's body while he's trapped in Prison Realm. Canon Gojo finds himself sharing a body with Twins!Satoru in Twins-verse.
The twins are strongest together, so Twins!Satoru is indeed weaker without his sister (the same goes for Twins!Shiki without her brother). However, even on their own they are still in a league of their own, far beyond other sorcerers.
Twins!Satoru is very upset when Shiki suddenly disappears without warning. Even after discovering that it's an alternate version of himself that took up residence inside his head, he's still not very happy about it. The two Satorus probably have many arguments with each other.
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Rate all Nexus ships
...All of them??? pfft okay I'm gonna not do the more controversial ones for the sake of my Sanity BUT here's still a decently long list I think
Nexus x Solar: 1000/10, My blorbos forever, I can hear the wedding bells, they changed me as a person frfr, if I actually started ranting about why I like them so much we'd be here for 12 hours.
Nexus x Eclipse (V1): They never met, but I think V1 meeting pre-Nexus New Moon would fix him sfjhsds 7/10.
Nexus x Eclipse (V2): THEY WERE TOXIC. BUT I THINK NEW MOON COULD'VE FIXED HIM IF HE HAD MORE TIME. but also if V2 met current Nexus- omg evil overlord boyfriends..... 9/10
Nexus x Eclipse (V3/V4): Smushing V3/V4 together because they're almost the same person- inhales. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEE ESPECIALLY WHEN NEXUS WAS STILL NEW MOON THEY WERE SO GOOD. the episode of Nexus shoving Eclipse into therapy still lives rent free in my mindddd. if only what happened to Nexus DIDN'T HAPPEN they could've HEALED TOGETHER. 20/10.
Nexus x Lord Eclipse: ...toxic yaoi... :) 8/10
Nexus x Moon: actually this is even MORE toxic yaoi. personally I actually prefer to imagine a twins (or triplets, if you include Sun) dynamic between Nexus and Moon, but canon Nexus and Moon can romantically rot together lol. they're both bad people <3 6.5/10
Nexus x Ruin: OKAY LISTEN. Nexus x Ruin fluctuates from a 6/10-8/10 depending on how it's portrayed, but NEW MOON and Ruin before he did the dimensional collapse??? High-key 10/10, they were cute as fuck.
Nexus x Dark Sun: Sighs. my friends got me into it. toxic yaoi (that COULD be cute in the right au/context). 9/10.
Nexus x Monty: 0/10. I hate you, Monty.
Nexus x Bloodmoon: Uhhh. hm. 4/10??? not really my thing, nothing wrong with it tho.
Nexus x Killcode: UHHH 5/10, same reasons as Bm x Nexus, but it gets the extra point because KC is like the only one taller than Nex and I find that funny.
Nexus x Solar-Flare: 5.5/10. Again, not my thing, but Cute. c:
Nexus x Gemini: Sighs. 7.5/10, and I blame Alex for that.
Nexus x Puppet: 2/10, purely because they're both hot. but Puppet would not be good for Nex.
#asks tag#tsams#the sun and moon show#sams#sun and moon show#tsams shipping#the sun and moon show shipping#tsams nexus#the sun and moon show nexus#..i aint tagging all that KJDSFHSDF#new moon/nexus (tsbs)#yapping about smtn tag
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What are the roles for the other characters in the V3 Talent swap?
Tentative List (subject to change)
Kokichi: Pianist
Himiko: Detective
Angie: Astronaut
Korekiyo: Geriatric Caretaker
Tenko: Supreme Leader (M. Bison Vibes)
Rantaro: Magician
Kaito: MMA Master
Maki: Survivor
Kaede: Cultural Anthropologist
Shuichi: Artist
Gonta: Butler
Tsumugi: Tennis Player/Prisoner
Ryoma: Tinkerer (gnome energy)
Kirumi: Robot
Miu: Entomologist
Kiibo: Cosplayer
Misc:
Kaede's twin sister is now a character, but she only shows up sometimes and is most of the time hidden around the school. She looks exactly like Kaede, and she plays a big part in this AU's chapter 3.
Will release more info when the drawings come out, but like my other au the character's story role is dictates by their talent.
#danganronpa talentswap#danganronpa#talentswap au#danganronpa v3#himiko yumeno#kokichi oma#danganronpa demix#tenko chabashira#rantaro amami#angie yonaga#korekiyo shinguji
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Alright time to give my verdict and opinions on the dishonourable mentions.
1-1: The reason the 11037 clue is obvious to us is because of localisation messing things up, as the idea of 11037 being LEON in English was still the case in the Japanese version. While English is known and taught in Japan, obviously its a secondary language and not everyone will know it is it’s quite a tricky first clue as it requires knowledge in another language.
To put it in Western terms, imagine if the clue to a killer was in French or Spanish. But of course when the game was translated this didn’t get touched so as such the 11037 clue becomes extremely obvious to us.
I also note Leon’s execution is more on the brutal side compared to the rest of the franchise because it’s a remnant of his old Distrust execution where aside from a few minor changes it’s more or less the same.
Sayaka’s death was obvious now, but if you were a first time player getting into Danganronpa for the first time, it might catch you off guard, and especially how Sayaka was planning to backstab Makoto. Really sets the tone of this franchise.
Overall it’s a decent introduction.
1-5: Yeah I agree compared to how phenomenal the other Chapter 5s are this is the odd one out and kinda feels like part 1 of the finale. While it’s the first and only chapter to have alternative endings depending on your choices, I do wish other games did this but to my knowledge none have.
Also there’s a bunch of nonsensical stuff that happens such as Makoto get le flu, and yeah Mukuro wasn’t handled well neither does this show Junko in a good tactical light as it seems likely she’s panicking.
Neitherless to say when I get to Chapter 5 in my AU, it’s is gonna be one that’s get a complete rework to be more on par with other titles Chapter 5.
3-3: What pisses me off the most, aside from how Korekiyo was completely character assassinated, is that this was a Chapter 3 which had the greatest potential to not suck. Angie and her cult was shaping up to be a compelling antagonistic force, Monodam did a coup, there’s the idea of bringing a dead character back to life, we didn’t see a second body before Angie’s and the idea of a double killer.
But of course all of that didn’t happen, the Student Council died with Angie, Monokuma got his groove back and got back in the driver’s set, nobody was revived and Tenko dies in the investigation. Heck even that had potential since I had the idea that maybe Tenko was Angie’s killer as she and Angie might have gotten into a heated argument and the former killed the latter, and maybe the reason she decided to be the “spirit medium” in Korekiyo’s seance was because she sensed it was a trap and not only offered herself to save Himiko, but also because she knew she would die in a execution so this would be going out on her own terms. And then with the double killer rule, Korekiyo would be around in Chapter 4 for interesting character dynamics.
Before Chapter 3 I was really liking Korekiyo as he struck me as a very interesting character due to how philosophical and knowledge he seemed, and being fascinated with humanity in general. Granted I saw him as a Chapter 3 Killer a mile away since that philosophy of is was the same shallow motives killers tend to have but even my ideas or the fake spoilers where he did it because he hates religion, would be better then…incest.
Now granted Korekiyo is my least disliked of the serial killers but that’s only because a) the whole V3 plot twist so there’s a good chance the real Kiyo wasn’t a serial killer, b) the implication how abusive his relationship with his sister is and c) I have the feeling if you sat Kiyo down and told him how problematic his relationship with his sister was, he would actually stop and turn himself in.
The biggest crime with 3-3 though is that it’s the reason A2-3 is a thing. And that is inexcusable and it’s why I say Korekiyo killed 6 people; Angie, Tenko, himself, Setsuka and the Otonokoji Twins.
Here’s hoping you redeem him big time in Survivor Season 3.
A1-3: Thanks to Timeline Anon, everytime I think of this case the Spooky Mormon Hell Dream song plays in my head. Kinji is probably the most sympathetic of the Chapter 3 culprits but given the extremely low bar that has been set that isn’t saying much. And still he had every chance to stop when he killed Kakeru especially as the Lawyer told him to spare Kanata, and since she was knocked out it wasn’t as if she seen him or anything. Why he still carried on, the only reason is the whole idea Chapter 3s must have double victims.
Hey LINUJ here’s a groundbreaking revolutionary idea, how about you don’t do that? I know the Danganronpa formula says double victims in Chapter 3 but it’s a guideline not a absolute rule. And also Kanata’s death was too brutal for the sake of being brutal.
I do know that Chapter 3 was riddled with development issues as apparently LINUJ was having severe computer problems during the production of Chapter 3, and so maybe there was other ways it could have gone but technology issues meant some corners had to be cut. I do wonder if Kanata being brutally shocked to death was LINUJ venting his frustrations with how much the laptop was crashing on him. Let’s face it, you probably wanted to throw a malfunctioning laptop into a pool when you get mad it’s not working.
This like 3-3 had the potential to not suck but it missed the mark.
A2-2: Oh I’m so glad I’m not the only one who loathes this chapter.
Emma being the culprit was a interesting touch and the way she used her talent was really creative, so I do give her massive credit there and it could have been a good trail…had Kanade decided to not fuck with the class trial formula.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about in my opinion Class Trials go like this;
Introduction- The case opens and basic info is talked about. Things like murder weapon, time of death, stuff like that.
False Accusation- Someone is falsely accused of being the culprit, and thus the protagonist clears their name.
Mystery solving- This is where all the tricks and gimmicks are unravelled and at the end the true culprit is found. Longest part of the trial here.
Culprit Breakdown- Exposed, the culprit will fight to prove they are innocent and the protagonist needs to prove they are the only one who could have done it.
Conclusion- Protagonist rips the culprit’s clothes off, draws a comic to summarises the case, everyone votes, culprit says last words, execution.
So with that you can see the problem, Emma is in the falsely accused yet she isn’t falsely accused so we skip two entire parts, which disrupts the flow of the trial and makes it terrible.
The icicle puzzle is the most moronic thing ever as there was an easy fix, just replace the O with M and then it would be obvious what the dying message was. Maybe Kanade was the first one to realise this but still give the others a chance to think.
Plus yeah Kanade is the single worst thing about the trial as I suppose this was LINUJ trying to show she’s smart but in reality she comes off as only knowing stuff because the script gave her the answers.
And that wouldn’t be the last chapter she ruins either.
A2-3: Yeah this is the single worst chapter among the canon and Another series and it doesn’t even come close. This is what happens when you take a already bad case from canon and emulate for no fucking reason.
It’s part of SDRA2’s unholy trio of bad chapters alongside Chapters 4 and 6. And it’s a complete trainwreck of a chapter that I’m not looking forward to playing when the English dub for it comes out.
Since more educated people then me have already explored in depth why this is a horseshit of a chapter I will say the following. Firstly the length of A2-3’s Class Trial as long as the entirety of Danganronpa 3. I’m almost tempted to do a race to see if someone can watch all of Danganronpa 3 or get Kanade executed first.
And yes half of that length is Kanade and Syobai in a bitchfight. Given how Syobai has been very passive the last two class trials, him actually contributing to a class trial should be a big deal, but it really isn’t which pisses me off.
LINUJ also always attended for the Otonokoji twins to be a pair and be double killers, but the original draft before V3 got involved was that the twins would have a extremely toxic relationship and that Kanade would have had hidden resentment for Hibiki. That if explored would be much better then what we got.
The fact this is the only chapter to include motives also confuses me as wasn’t Mikado’s whole spiel was that with the Voids in place, there was no need for motives so what gives? I know Iroha was dragging her heels in this Chapter but I would have much preferred it if Mikado was pressuring Iroha to kill, and something else happened to push Hibiki into a state where Kanade could execute her murder plan.
Finally I also uncovered something which I don’t like talking about as I’m still unsure if this is true or not, and I need to look into it more closely, but if it’s true, then it makes this chapter even worse as it crosses a massive ethical line which is completely intolerable by any means.
This chapter was also the start of massively disrupting the plot flow of this game which is a big reason why in the end SDRA2 doesn’t turn out that great of a story. I do really wonder what a rewrite of this chapter which removes the V3 emulation in favour of something original would be.
Anyway long ramblings later and I’m done. Obviously once we start the countdown I won’t be talking as long as it’s just one chapter per day.
//Sometimes I forget you type a lot, lol. But yeah, here's what I have to say to this.
//Sayaka planning to betray Makoto was the biggest plot twist of Trial 1, and easily its standout moment. Even though I think Sayaka gets hated on way too much for what I think is a reasonable reaction to finding out the people you love the most in the world might be in danger if you don't do something, it's still shocking that, despite the genuine connection she had with Makoto, that she would do this. I'm not doubting any of that. But the stupid thing about 11037 doesn't make sense even for the Japanese version, because these students are Japanese. Why would Sayaka write Leon's name in ENGLISH!? And no, before anyone says "She probably thought that even if Leon discovered the message, she thought he might not be able to read English," because no, that's bullshit. These are Japanese students, she would write his name as "Kuwata" in a realistic situation, and even if she did write it in English, she would not use the English spelling. The Japanese language doesn't have an "L" sound, and it just doesn't make any sense to me that Sayaka wrote his name in a language that everyone else may or may not speak, and also what the fuck was she gonna do if Leon DID find the message and COULD speak English? It kind of just feels like a stretch.
//As for 1-5, the only other game I think on this ranking that had more than one ending was Another 1. But that switch happened in Trial 6, and it comes down to whether you want the bad ending if you keep Yuki as Yuki, or the true ending if you awaken Utsuro. 1-5 doesn't make it into the official ranking because it's a poorly structured case, but at the same time, the issue is there's a limit to how structured it can be when it's entire reason for existing is to BE a rushed and stupid case that was coupled together as an excuse to get Kyoko killed. Also, unfortunate as it is, Mukuro being handled very poorly is a very common thing in the Danganronpa series. IF is legitimately the only time she is shown genuine respect as a character in her own right.
//Trust me, I fully intend to do with Kiyo what I did with every other character, and that's show them for their truest and most honest qualities that don't make them objectively suck. And also, I don't blame Kiyo and Case 3 of V3 for what happened with Another 2 Case 3; I blame LINUJ for ever thinking it was a good idea to scrap his original plan and copy it. But yeah, that is generally the biggest issue with V3-3, in that it opens the gate for a trial that could be MARGINALLY different than anything else we've gotten so far, and yet it decides to stick to the bullshit formula anyway. I think I do genuinely need to make an entire analysis of everything behind Case 3 of V3 and why I so utterly despise it, but something I think I failed to really get across is that my biggest issue out of every problem I have with the case is how several key plot points feel underdeveloped or fail to reach their potential. First, the cult-like situation surrounding Angie's Student Council isn't resolved before Kiyo kills her, leaving that subplot hanging. The chapter's motive, a Necronomicon capable of resurrecting a dead student, is removed before it can significantly impact the story. This motive had the potential to introduce a unique dynamic to the game’s usual motives, which rarely repeat across the series. Even the Chapter 2 motive videos, while similar in premise, introduced the twist of being deliberately mismatched. Unfortunately, the Necronomicon serves only as a murder clue, sidelining its intriguing possibilities. Another major event in this chapter is Monodam’s apparent coup, where he uses the Exisals to seize control from Monokuma. However, this development is abruptly reversed after Tenko’s death, with Monokuma regaining his authority without resistance. And of course, as you mentioned, one of the most intriguing but ultimately unrealized ideas comes during the trial, where Monokuma reveals a new rule that we've never recieved before; if there are two killers, only the first murderer; the one who killed Angie in this case; would be punished, allowing the second killer, who murdered Tenko, to go free. This scenario could have created immense tension within the group, as someone known to be a killer would still be part of their daily lives. Unfortunately, this potential is squandered when it’s revealed that Kiyo committed both murders, negating the possibility of exploring this rule further. These missed opportunities contribute to the chapter's narrative shortcomings. Despite its interesting setup, the story opts for simpler resolutions, leaving characters like Kiyo underutilized and, for some, frustratingly unredeemable.
//Funnily enough, if that stuff about LINUJ's laptop being a part of it is true, that's actually a mood and that kind of fixes my issues a little bit. I'm still pissed that Kanata died in such a brutal and also pointless way, but that's just funny. But yeah, I don't have much to say about this; other than that one thing that made Another so famous so quickly is the stuff that it did differently than the original series, so it's not very enjoyable when it decides to stick to the dumb formula as well. Ironically, Case 3 of Another 2 subverted it, but had two killers instead of two victims, which would have been way more interesting had the killers not been the twins, who were very obvious candidates for this kind of case.
//To be honest, I was actually super scared that people were gonna get on my ass for hating on A2-2, so I'm glad that you have my back on this. The sad part of this one is that this case sucks, but I really WANT to like it. It's just by far the worst paced and worst structured trial in the history of Danganronpa and Fanganronpa, and I don't know how LINUJ managed to get away with it. In a realistic setting, not every trial has to follow that structure, and there can be cases where the obvious suspect really is the killer. The only issue is that this is not real life, it's a game, and these trials have structure, so as you and I both said, aboutt 15% of this trial is finding out who the culprit is, and the rest of it is just fucking YAPPING because Emma is a stubborn bitch, and her motive as a VOID, while I later become sympathetic of her, does not justify this bullshit. And yeah, my God, Kanade REALLY thinks SHE'S the protagonist, doesn't she?
//I don't really want to talk about Chapters 4 and 6 because they're on the actual list and I have a much better opinion of them than I think most people do, but that's largely because of the mystery and not because of the writing. Still, if that's the case and if that's how people feel, that effectively means only Chapter 1 of SDRA2 is considered good and that's a HUUUUUGE yikes! I will, however, say that I am SOMEWHAT looking forward to the dub of Chapter 3, because despite our reservations about Kanade, Eli is the fucking GOAT, and does a REALLY good job selling her lines. I don't know if I've ever said this, but as a killer, it kind of feels like Kanade is an unholy amalgamation of all the Chapter 3 killers, Celeste, Mikan, and Kiyo, in certain ways. Celeste because of her two-faced nature that she can kind of switch on and off whenever she wants, Mikan because she guises herself as someone innocent and to be bullied by Hibiki the same way Mikan is with Hiyoko, and Kiyo because she's a sistercon serial killer who have a love-hate relationship with her sister that she will, and has, murdered countless people for. So yeah, she's basically every bad killer in the main series squished into one horrific package, and I do not see how LINUJ could have EVER thought this was a good idea. I get that he thinks differently than we do, but...come on...at least CONSIDER it. Speaking of which, that idea of Kanade having a hidden resentment for Hibiki and her toxicity towards her is remarkably similar to how I've always felt about Hiyoko and Mikan's relationship, and how Mikan didn't actually kill Hiyoko to get back at her, or because she snapped, but for something infinitely more idiotic. It's the exact same case here. Even more unfortunate, I feel even if he had gone that route, it wouldn't have saved this for me, because the Otonokoji Twins literally EXIST to be double murderers, and its so obvious by the fact that they are twins in the first place, but what makes it unforgiveable for me is that only one of these twins, the worst one at that, is given any kind of development, and Hibiki is legitimately just canon fodder. I would have cared about this case more had Hibiki not been reduced to basically a murder weapon, and dicked over by Kanade. It's no wonder Bubbles treats her like a queen, because she fucking deserved it after all this. And it's only thanks to him that I even like Hibiki because she is such an abhorrantly written character, and by far the WORST handled in ANY of these games.
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This is so funny, imagine a V3 AU that's like this.
there is...SO MUCH TO UNPACK HERE
Mukuro is an evil twin, they are both evil twins, i dont get why this is so hard for everyone
Manpain crush is so funny like what? that makes no sense, because makoto still has kyoko, the only manpain crush is sayaka (even though her death had a bit more layers to it then just that) and like? sayaka isnt popular why would they do that. Also Chiaki definitely died for a lot more then just manpain, girl was a fully fleshed out character, but no one ever wants to listen to me on that
literally why would you trust 4chan with anything
The idea that chiaki and sayaka get deus ex saved for v3, especially after danganronpa 3's like, everything, is so fucking funny actually? could you IMAGINE
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