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Spy x family is very very good because there's a bit where a far right terrorist group says that they want to start a war and a main character responds by saying to them "have any of you ever killed anyone before? Have you ever been killed before? Have you ever had a limb torn off by an artillery shell? Have you ever heard the sound of bones shattering? Have you ever smelled the reek of rotting flesh? Have you ever found the crushed bodies of your parents and siblings in a pile of rubble that used to be your home? Have you ever discovered a blown-off piece of your lover stuck to a wall? Have you ever been so hungry that you tried to eat tree bark? Or stewed a pot of human flesh? Have you ever convinced yourself that your enemy was subhuman so you could...slaughter them like animals? Have you ever been so haunted by shame and regret afterwards that you cried until you vomited? Have you ever had friends who did the same, and then took their own lives? Did you learn nothing about war at your university?!"
and that's the same volume where they adopt a dog that can see into the future
#strong anti-war narratives that are also deeply ridiculous my beloved#spy x family#Spyxfamily#Sxf#spy x family spoilers#spy x family manga#spy x family anime#spy x family analysis#sxf manga#sxf spoilers#loid forger#yor forger#anya forger#bond forger#sxf loid#agent twilight#sxf twilight#sxf yor#sxf anya#sxf bond#Sxf handler#war tw#cw war mention#cw war
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Trying to figure out TP Link's diet based on his environment.
Livestock-wise, we've got cuccos and goats. That means
Eggs
Milk
Butter
Cheese
Potentially meat, but I don't think they get eaten unless they're old. Too valuable otherwise | EDIT: Oh yeah you need to breed goats every couple years to get milk. Add in cabrito veal!
And we know for a fact that Ordon Goat Cheese specifically is a thing. Stamped wheel and everything.
There's also fish
And bees/hornets(? It's called bee larva, but the enemy is a Hylian Hornet)
Useful for bait, but Link can eat them.
Did some more research, and apparently in Japan they eat wasp larvae? Specifically in Kushihara. So I'm counting it.
Then plants-wise we have pumpkins
And...corn. Somehow. I've never seen corn growing, but Link has some hanging in his house, so it exists.
I'm choosing to believe it comes from these plants that grow in patches around Ordon.
That gives us a lot. We've got
Cornstarch
Cornmeal
Corn oil
Corn shoots
Pumpkin seeds
Pumpkin seed oil
Pumpkin flour
Pumpkin blossoms
No source of sugar, but depending on how the pumpkins in Ordon taste, they could be naturally sweet. Like pie pumpkins. Also corn syrup is a thing if it's a sweet corn. So corn syrup needs cream of tartar which comes from grapes and apples and such. It's a byproduct of wine. No corn syrup.
Edit: Malt sugar, though!
Now for hypothetical foods.
Ordon is surrounded by pine trees, so that adds pine needle tea and pine nuts to the mix. I was a little worried about species, but apparently there are a lot of pine trees that make edible seeds, so on the list it goes.
Then there are frogs near Rusl and Uli's house, wild songbirds on cliffs, and a squirrel that talks to Link directly, so those are huntable sources of meat.
Is horse grass a cattail? Maybe? Initially, I thought it was—the ends look like cattail seedpuffs, but the leaves are completely different.
I want to treat them like cattails. Cattails that also are probably the main food source for Epona and the goats.
If we do that, that means, on top of all the other uses cattails have like stuffing and tinder and antiseptic, we get
Roots
Shoots
Ground seeds
Can't find a good match for hawk grass though. Concluding that that's not edible. Equivalent exchange and all.
Side note, how do you think horse grass spreads? It's almost always in groups of two or more plants, so that suggests rhizomes, but the image of Link picking one up to blow and stuffing flying out the end of the horseshoe is hilarious to me.
Up next, there are ferns, primarily near trees. After very careful and way-too-deep analysis of a pixelated fern's leaves, I think it's bracken fern.
Which is mildly poisonous.
And also edible.
On the list it goes!
Then finally, Sera has some kind of herb hanging in her shop.
I don't know what it is. I'm calling it Ordon Spice. Congratulations, Ordon Pumpkin Spice is now a thing.
#long post#twilight princess#loz#zelda#analysis#theory#worldbuilding#hello it is bee being a nerd about zelda hours again
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Twilight's Habit of Observing Yor and Anya
I just noticed how often Twilight observes these two interacting with each other, the anime is inclined of highlighting this since most of these are not in the manga and I love them for that.
Look at how fond his face is when he's looking at Yor and Anya's genuine affection for each other. I think he can saw glimpses of him and his mom through them.
Yor and Anya share a true mother-daughter bond, even though they don't share the same blood. In his world as a spy, where deception and pretenses rule, Yor and Anya's genuine bond is a breath of fresh air for him. It was something that is very much real and it's something that is under his care regardless he is Twilight, Loid Forger or his true self. He was the one who united their family and I think it makes him wonder how an epitome of deception like himself can build something as authentic and genuine as this.
That face he makes, the longing warm stare directed at them. I can't explain it but his eyes are really different when he's looking at them. It's soft. Yep, this man is already into deep.
Also, it makes me wonder, judging at how often he observes these two, how could he not tell something was definitely weird about them? At this rate he must've been constantly and intentionally ignoring those😂
More Yor and Anya interacting with each other in Loid's view:
They were always so bright in his view. I think he associates the both of them as his source of light. That's just so sweet and wholesome😭❤️
#spy x family#spy x family manga#loid forger#spy x family anime#twilight#sxf anime#sxf manga#yor forger#anya forger#twiyor#forger family#spyxfamily#the forgers#sxf analysis#spy x family analysis#sxf#I love anime for always showing this habit of Loid#This man is so soft for his family#There's no way he's not attached to them in any way#Of course he wouldn't admit#Can't wait for him to finally completely accept that he could also be as genuine as his wife and daughter#Yor being with Anya is LOVE
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you know i used to think it was weird how sora and roxas have such different personalities for supposedly being 'the same person' but after playing a few games i sort of realized that they do have similar personalities, because roxas acts how sora does when he's under extreme stress.
compare roxas to sora in, say, kh1. that's where a lot of peoples idea of sora's personality comes from. sora is generally very upbeat and optimistic in that game. not very similar to roxas, right?
but let's switch the game and talk about a game where sora is ABSOLUTELY GOING THROUGH IT. chain of memories.
sora's resting state is melancholy in com. he only ever cheers up in short bursts, usually when he's joking around with friends. just like roxas.
he's quick to anger, and tends to lash out at the organization members. best example of this is when larxene makes him 'remember' namine, and he swings at her repeatedly, even after she's gone. he only stops when jiminy is able to snap him out of it.
you know what scene that resembles?
sora, while a bit more on the angry side and less sad, continues to act like this in kh2 when he's in stressful situations. (he also has a tendancy to insult people which, while it's not very related to the point, is very funny and sora saying 'gonna cry?' to xigbar is great.) i cant comment any further than that about kh2 off the top of my head.
so, roxas acts like sora does when he's stressed, right? but why is roxas always acting like that? to which i say, he isnt!
he only ever acts like that when he's also in fucked up and stressful situations, which happens to be a CONSTANT in his life. but when he's hanging out with axel and xion, a decidedly NOT stressful situation, he's a lot more like sora. he's teasing his friends and insulting his coworkers and joking around and acting like a normal kid. not really important, but unless i misremembered some sora lines which is VERY possible, both roxas and sora respond to friendly insults with "oh thanks!" a lot. just a funny little detail that felt relevant.
the biggest differences between roxas and sora boil down to environment and... i dont know how to put it besides volume? roxas is very quiet and tends to keep most of his thoughts to himself, while sora is very loud and expressive in comparison.
there is one other huge difference i noticed, which is less character based and more story. sora wanted to get off destiny islands and explore with his friends, but roxas just wanted routine. sora wants adventure, and roxas wants things to stay the same, for days where he gets off work and eats ice cream with his friends to last forever, to keep having conversations about nothing and watching the sunset. roxas wants normalcy, sora wants excitement. it's just interesting seeing their contrast.
not sure if this is very well said or anything i just wanted to talk about my boys
#random thoughts#its been a while since i got to use that tag eheheh#i bet theres a few people following me who didnt even know i did analysis posts#the fact that sora and roxas grew up in very different environments is pretty important btw#roxas was already a bit quiet and being in a cult where any expression of emotion is immediately shut down probably didnt help#we'll probably never get a good idea of how roxas would be if he was in a normal situation#id say some of the twilight town stuff might be a close estimate but even that doesnt really fit considering all the shit going down#even from the very start hes being accused of theft hes Not doing the best#anyways. sora and roxas are different obviously#but theyre a lot more similar than people really talk about#kingdom hearts#roxas#sora#not rereading this so it might be a little weird and hard to read sorry
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Guys wait... I think I just figured out something very important about this panel.
Y'all remember how protective Twi is of his village kiddos?
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Yeah, threatening Twi's village kids is like threatening Sky's Zelda. If you're smart, you don't. Because their respective Links will hunt you down and murder you in protective rage.
Now then... what, exactly, did Wild do, again?
Oh. That's right.
He hunted down Dink and tried to murder him in a protective rage.
And Twilight knows that.
Prior to all this, Twilight was more serious and stern with Wild, attempting to model Time, which Wild never jived with.
But now Twilight understands where Wild is coming from. Wild doesn't view Twilight as a mentor: he views Twilight as a friend.
As a brother. As family.
Wild has lost so much that he is murderously protective of anyone he has left. And now Twilight sees that. Viscerally, he understands what it means to go into a blind rage because that person you just hurt is mine and I will not allow it. He knows that because he's been there. And now, he knows that that's how Wild sees him.
And so now they can be brothers.
#linkeduniverse#linked universe#lu update#lu twilight#lu wild#character analysis#THEM#just them#the duo ever#they are brothers your honor#Youtube
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Twilight's Guilt
*Spoilers for Spy x Family Chapter 107*
I haven't seen anyone talking about this yet, but I just can't get it out of my head.
Chapter 107 is a real goldmine for Twilight The Spy. All these amazing connections! All this potential intelligence! He can finally feel like he is extracting what he can from Anya's hard-won connections at Eden, and he is fully using every opportunity possible to squeeze what he can for Operation Strix.
And then Jeeves had to go ahead and say this:
Jeeves really hits the nail on the head here.
He probably knows about the responsibilities and expectations that are put on the Eden kids by all of their parents - of which he understands Damian's position the most intimately - but at this point in time, Jeeves (likely) has no idea of the extra burden that has been put on one child in particular.
That is, Twilight's burden on Anya.
Not just the burden of becoming an Imperial Scholar, and doing well in her tests, and making friends with the right people: only Twilight knows about the burden of being a fake family, of having to complete a mission, and dispose of her when it's over.
"How I hope that these children are to remain forever unburdened by the statures and standpoints of their parents..."
This is what I love about Endo's storytelling so much: so much is said with so few words and gestures.
Because after Jeeves says his piece, we get a look from Twilight. It's interesting - he almost looks bored, but the lack of response is by itself so telling, even when the other parents express their remorse.
To me, he looks exhausted. This pretence must be so exhausting.
Then his gaze turns towards Anya.
And: he's guilty.
Twilight knows that Jeeves is right; that by taking up a fatherly role for this child, he has automatically burdened her with his own goals and expectations.
Which then leads us to this panel:
I love this panel so much. I honestly felt myself tearing up looking at it.
The first thing that the reader notices is the vast expanse of negative space: everything and everyone else has faded away, and now it is only them. Without the bustling festival and rowdy kids and background characters, suddenly the reader is so aware of the distance between Twilight and Anya. We know that this distance is emotional as well as physical; because Twilight has put himself in the position of the 'onlooker', he is separating his emotions and keeping himself distant from Anya as a person.
I also couldn't help but notice that this panel, unlike every other one on this spread, did not have a border. Endo intended the negative space around them to be endless and borderless, to show that the guilt has the potential to swallow Twilight entirely.
Finally, the size difference between them: while we can interpret this as distance, I also see their physical forms as an illustration of their difference in power. In that sense, one could say that Twilight is larger in this panel, because he overwhelms Anya in the power that he holds over her. He is her 'father'; the man who took her away from the orphanage; and the man who could put her back without a second's notice. Twilight is fully aware of all of this.
(Despite his ignorance of Anya's telepathic power, the scale is still very much in Twilight's favour.)
We even see this side of Anya as though from Twilight's perspective: suddenly, Anya is just a child that caught up in something so much bigger. With our view just of Twilight's back, we can imagine the weight that this must have on his shoulders, bearing a burden that only he is aware of.
And yet, here you are, Twilight...
Despite the attention paid to Twilight's guilt in this double-page spread, Twilight is still very much back to 'business as usual' within the next couple of pages after this. After all, he has a mission to complete. As a spy, he should be adept at compartmentalising his emotions by now...
... Or perhaps, his only option is to keep squashing his guilt down, before he drowns in it.
#spy x family#sxf#sxf manga spoilers#spy x family spoilers#sxf manga#spy x family analysis#loid forger#twilight#agent twilight#sxf twilight#sxf analysis#anya forger#another panel that made me tear up#i swear loid forger can only be a good father when twilight retires#otherwise he will always put his expectations and goals on her#even if he doesnt mean to#anya will never be free until twilight is no more
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The Chains Ages in Linked Universe.
I saw people talking about the Chains age in Linked Universe, and I have my thoughts on them.
I've done a LOT of research on the Links and how old they were, I even tried to figure out how long Legend was in Koholint for. (We go with old Canon because new Canon doesn't make since,(Footnote 1) but basically that's the last time we see Legend in normal Zelda Canon)
Anyways-
This is from Jojo's QnA doc on the Linked Universe Discord- ^^^
And this is my thoughts on their ages. Side note, I'm not going off of looking up their ages through google, I'm going off info you can find in game and cross referencing it with other games and the Hyrule Historia and Encyclopedia. Time was 9 in his game and that's about 20 years later so he would be 29. (Unless if we counting Majora's Mask, then he could be 30-32)
Twilight was a "Late Teen" (Also it does state hold old he is) so 17 making him 21 to 22.
Warriors is also "Late Teen" (He was a trainee at the beginning of the war) making him 22 to 26
Sky is also stated to be around 17 making him 18 to 19
Wild is 117 and this would make him either almost 118 or just turned 118.
Legend just became "Of age" in ALBW and that's 16 in his era making 17.
Hyrule we know is 16 making him 18.
Four is 15 or 16 in Four Sword, but he isn't "Of age" so probably 15. making him 17.
And we know Wind is 13 almost 14. (He said it himself)
I just find it very funny the Toons are the youngests. Age explanation and footnotes below cut.
Time - He is 9 at the beginning of his game and becomes an "Adult" 7 years later at 16. This is one of the times it proves that 16 is "Of age" in the Zelda series. We aren't sure how much time has passed between Oot and MM, so we can guess he's 29 to 32 (Making Link in MM 10 to 12 as a good guess.)
Twilight - It's stated in a guide that he is 17. His game also was originally supposed to be a continuation of Oot and MM in the Wind Waker style, with Time all grown up and living on his own. But they changed it to what it is now. So it's just 17+4 or 5 making him 21 to 22.
Warriors - There is no official age and you do NOT need to be 17 to wield the master sword. All we know is that he's "Late Teens" making him between 16 to 19. Making his age in LU between 22 to 26.
Sky - He is stated to be around 17. Making him 18 or 19 (Even if we say he's 16, then he would be 17 to 19.)
Wild - he is 117 years old. We know this. it's been "Less than a year" so he could be almost 118 or already be 118, he probably doesn't remember his Birthday, so there is no saying exactly. (His Zelda should know though. Maybe.)
Legend - SO. I feel like people are gonna fight me on this, but I got the math and hours of research to back it. At the beginning of ALTTP, some guards say that Link shouldn't be out here or that he's too young to wield a sword (Or even start learning to) In BOTW Wild got the Master Sword at 12-13. And people said he was still very young and a prodigy, which means he was already learning the sword by that time. and we also know that in BOTW they think of "Of Age" as 17 instead of 16, meaning they probably make them learn stuff when they are a little older. There's also the connection to Oot, In Wind Waker its stated that Wind is the same age as Time when he Defeated Ganon (Making Wind Canonically 16) And Twilight is the age of what Time should have been when he decided to settle down, making him 17, which leaves us with Legend's age. Most likely taking Times age from the beginning of his game. LONG STORY SHORT- In ALTTP Link is between 9 to 10. NOW. The Oracle games, Link is still a CHILD, so before "Of Age" (Aka less than 16) A LOT of people call him a CHILD and wonder why he has a sword! making him most likely around 11 or 12. Same things with Link's Awakening. (FOOTNOTE 1). Then we have ALBW. Link has a job now and is learning to become a smith. so most likely after his return home, as well as he needs to learn this stuff before becoming a full adult, but then again he lives alone, so we could accurately say 15 to 16. SO LONGER STORY SHORT. We can say 16 and be GENEROUS. Making Legend 17 in LU (but probably closer to 16).
Hyrule - It's literally a plot in his game he is 16, making him 18 in LU.
Four - He is a Child in Minish Cap (So less than 16) and same with Four Swords. He has to be older than 12 because he was given a sword willingly. So between 13 to 15, but we can be nice and say 15 in Four Swords, making him 17 in LU.
Wind -
I do want to say, it's literally stated in his game he is the same age as Time when he KILLED Ganon as an ADULT. It's just the art style of the game.... He JUST turned 16, so people are still calling him a child. (Like how people call 18 year olds children in rl) But also he does look 12 in game... ART STYLE WHYYYYYY (also thats what Twi was supposed to look like lmaoooo)
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FOOTNOTE 1 - The Encylapedia has wrong information that's easy to disprove and I want to throw it out a window. It also switched the order of the Oracle games and Link's Awakening, even though Oracle of Ages LITERALLY ENDS With Link taking the boat out to sea to head home, and LITERALLY Transitions to Link's Awakenings Opening. ITS THE SAME BOAT. I'm Gonna Cry- NINTENDO WHYYYYY.
#legend of zelda#zelda#linked universe#lu#link#character analysis#character ages#linked universe chain ages#I was left alone for 5 minutes#I have streams where I'm just reading the books and crying about the info in them#lu sky#lu four#lu time#lu legend#lu hyrule#lu twilight#lu wind#lu warriors#lu wild#Theres more games that state that 16 is “Of Age” but It's midnight and I'm gonna go play games with friends.#Yes I did the LU Character analysis' on Youtube#I went and researched for a year and a half all these boys and their games#giving each their own time to shine#This wasn't a quick google search this was actual hours of research XD#PLZ I'M GONNA SOB#NUMBERRRRS
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Central Room Part 3 Thoughts
Ok I just woke up but this is interesting….
This has also kind of turned into analysis and predictions so…
Sky and Twilight
Not a bad group! Surprising given Time’s last conversation with Wars but not horrible! I don’t see much conflict between the two of them personally, feel like it’ll be smooth sailing (minus Twi probably throwing himself into Situations because of his missing strength)
I do think this is a “safe” option for Time: Twi is in another group, keeping them from fighting and Time from potentially compromising their group because of his own anxiety. And we know Time and Sky already don’t really get along. There’s tension, let’s just say. But I think Time putting Sky with Twilight still shows he trusts Sky as a warrior though he knows their own ideals (Time and Sky’s that is) conflict a lot.
Wild and Wars:
Hoo boy! The newbies. That… that’s a surprise. I’d thought for sure Legend or Wind or Hyrule would be with one of them at the least. Or both. That said, eeeek. Even Wind’s seeing it in this panel! We have Mr. “Freest Play-Style Ever” with Mr. (arguably) “Most Limited Play” (this is coming from Age of Calamity’s gameplay as I’ve never played base Hyrule Warriors, but it’s pretty limited. You have objectives you need to get to, things you need to do, with a very limited stage and rather limited gameplay once you’re out in the field).
In LU, though, we also have Wars and Wild butting hands as Wild very much does what he wants, but Wars is trying to reign him back in. And Warriors being a captain and Wild’s lost past… I can see a lot of conflict brewing between the two of them.
That said I can also see a lot of fire. Remember what Wars and Hyrule did to the monsters earlier in the comic? And, well, Wild has a nigh unlimited stock of bombs.
Legend and Hyrule:
Surprising but not unwelcome. Understandable that they need to get their stuff back, but I can’t help but think that they’re going to have a little trouble adjusting to working in groups. Hyrule, as we’ve seen and others have pointed out, has a mind of his own and keeps forgetting he’s not the only one there. Legend is the expert. I can imagine this lack of awareness of Hyrule could begin to frustrate him because he knows how to do this, just let him do this! Or Legend, on the other hand, begins leading and just doing without Hyrule’s input. I can see this going a lot of ways and I’m excited for it!
Time, Wind, and Four:
Perfectly fine. I don’t have much other than I can see Time taking out his nervous energy on keeping the two of them safe, especially Wind, which could cause conflict. I cant help but feel like Four might start taking the lead, or at least giving lots of advice since he knows how to do this in a team. Wind, I feel, is going to run ahead or maybe try to shoulder a lot alone since Time is his predecessor.
I think some of these groups also show Time… isn’t as used to leading as Wars. The newbies together? That will be entertaining for us, for sure, but in-universe I don’t know if Time entirely thought that through…
I can’t wait to see everyone split up! I know I keep talking about potential conflict but things have been feeling tense lately in these updates so I can’t wait to see it.
Credit to @linkeduniverse for central room part 3!
#linked universe#analysis#Lu sky#lu twilight#lu wild#lu warriors#lu legend#lu hyrule#lu time#lu wind#lu four
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Maybe I'm overthinking this (probably I am) but...
You know that scene in Code White where Twilight (while disguised) grabs a woman's leg and then we realize that this is probably a honey trap?
And then we see that the woman is asleep (or unconscious).
My question is: why didn't he just sleep with her?
I'm sure he's done it before. What's different this time? 😏
Yeah, now he's married.
Now, there's Yor.
My headcanon is that Twilight is a bit demisexual. Someone demisexual is a person who feels sexually attracted to someone only after they've developed an emotional bond with them. In other words, Twilight needs to be in love for him to want sex. I even wrote a fic about this a while ago.
In my opinion, before meeting Yor, Twilight didn't care whether he had sex with someone or not. He did whatever he had to obtain what he wanted and protect peace. Sex was just a tool, not something he wanted or pursued.
But now things have changed, and the fact that he didn't sleep with that woman is very telling. Why was he faithful to his "fake" wife? I mean, that woman was part of his mission, he was wearing a disguise and no one would ever know. So why not just sleep with her?
Could it be that he has developed feelings for his wife?
It's very subtle. Blink and you'll miss it! But his behavior has changed.
Bonus: I love how gentle he is with Yor. This man is in love with his wife.
#spy x family#twiyor#spy x family movie#spy x family code white#loid forger#yor forger#agent twilight#loidyor#loid x yor#sxf#Spy x family meta#spy x family analysis
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Wwx is the only mxtx main protagonist who would not be a my little pony fan. But he does own a 20% cooler shirt
#Xie lian is an elder pegasister because he just likes shows about love and kindness#hes been in the collectors fandom for forever and runs an angelfire blog that barely works#whereas shen yuan is in the exact opposite camp as a brony who got into it via 4chan#he does serious lore analysis on the series in his free time and is constantly complaining about plot holes / poor#world building but he loves the brony pandering episodes#wwx doesnt fall into any of those camps so hes kind of just normie i fear. but Jiang cheng is a brony#so he bought the 20% cooler shirt to bond/make fun of him#i think he does like rainbow dash tho#oh favorite ponies#xie lians is fluttershy of course. sys is nightmare moon as we've established#but out of the main six his favorite/least favorite is twilight who he feels unfortunately drawn to bc he relates#to her. but he wont admit it. wwx only knows rainbow dashs name cause he sees her in memes#jiang cheng likes rarity. of course
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I have an obsession with assigning theme songs to characters I like. Since Linked Universe is my current hyperfixation I realized I have a golden opportunity. Sleeping at Last is one of my favorite artists and he has an album called Enneagram. 9 songs for 9 personality types for 9 Links so without further adieu here is my totally flawed assignment of songs.
One - Warriors.
The list goes on forever Of all the ways I could be better, in my mind As if I could earn God's favor given time Or at least congratulations Now, I have learned my lesson The price of this so called perfection is everything I've spent my whole life searching desperately To find out that grace requires nothing of me
In the Swords comic Warriors admits that wielding the Master sword made him feel invincible and that nearly cost him his life.
Now Warriors has learned that his true strength is his ability to work with others, a strength he brings to the chain. I see Warriors as someone that likes rules, he needs the world and people to follow a predictable pattern. That puts him at odds with the chaotic members of the chain (That’s everyone, including Warriors.) He’s a perfectionist, specifically the type of perfectionist that believes if you want something done right you’ve got to do it yourself. He’s learned to work with others, and has overcome his initial instincts as The Hero.
Two - initially I thought Hyrule was the best match for Two but as I was writing this analysis I changed my mind to Twilight.
Sweetheart, you look a little tired When did you last eat? Come in and make yourself right at home Stay as long as you need Tell me, is something wrong? If something's wrong, you can count on me
You know I'll take my heart clean apart if it helps yours beat
Twilight is running himself ragged. He was pulling double duty as Wolfie and Twilight. He’s trying to make Time proud, then turns around and tries to mentor Wild. A thankless task because Wild is not interested in his mother Cuccoing. He's more used to the mature blue eyed wolf that pushed him to his limits and never coddled him.
And in Twilight Princess he became The Hero to save his village. Mayhaps Twilight is a bit of a people pleaser but…
I know exactly how the rule goes Put my mask on first No, I don't want to talk about myself Tell me where it hurts I just want to build you up, build you up Till you're good as new And maybe one day I will get around to fixing myself too
Twilight recently had his heart broken when Midna left and shattered the mirror. Maybe he’s trying to avoid those feelings by concentrating on everyone else?
Three - Time and Legend were fighting back and forth with songs Three and Eight. Those two are very similar . Both young hero’s that had their childhood stolen in a single defining moment. Legend watched his uncle die and went on the run. Time drew the sword and woke up seven years later having slept through his childhood. And they’ve become pessimistic and cynical because of that.
And a nice little detail that shows how similar Time and Legend are is when Legend and Warriors were betting on who Time’s wife was. War’s thought it would be the princess. But Legend correctly guessed it was someone different because he knew that wasn’t Time’s style.
But back to Time, because these two are different and maybe that just because Time has the advantage of years and age on his side but he settled in a way Legend hasn’t
Maybe I've done enough And your golden child grew up Maybe this trophy isn't real love And with or without it, I'm good enough
Time is who he is because he has Malon and the ranch. Malon loves the very normal man Time is not The Hero he had to be. The others immediately notice how different Time is when they get to the ranch.
He laughs, smiles, and jokes around. While on the road he’s tense and serious. He sees this quest as a duty and a responsibility, but he wants to be home. Makes you wonder why he’ll leave home and die to become the hero’s shade?
Four - Is FOUR
Jk jk it's Sky. The song Four is about ordinary touching divine. And if that doesn't sum up Sky I don't know what does.
Bodies fashioned out of dirt and dust For a moment, we get to be glorious
When Sky first encountered Demise the Demon King spends a lot of time pointing out that Link is human, brave for a human but still human.
Then there are these lines
But I've fallen in love with a ghost I lost my balance when I needed it most
He loves Zelda, a mortal incarnation of a goddess and in his quest to save her he is so often just a little too slow. He's there in the end and gets the job done but it's a close thing that haunts him.
Five - For real this time. This is Fours song.
The opening lines are
I want to watch the universe expand I want to break it into pieces small enough to understand And put it all back together again In the quiet of my private collection
He's a curios little guy and a smith. Always looking into the mysteries of the world, take them apart and remake them. Maybe that curiosity got him into a little trouble. He's got the four sword and one magic sword is more than enough for him.
The last lines of the song are
I finally feel the universe expand It's hidden in heartbeats Exhales and in the hope of open hands
Four has got the four sword but he is also the hero of Minish cap. He see's the large universe and the small important things that are closer to home. He's recognized this after the events of sunset and dawn. If this quest is to succeed he needs to let his brother's in. Wild knows his secret but that was more of a spur of the moment angry reaction. I'll be interested to see if he purposefully reveals his secret to anyone else.
Six - Six was originally my pick for twilight but I switched him and Hyrule. Fanon characterizes Hyrule as the healer but so far we've only seen him healing once. So I'm basing this off of his games, Linked universe canon and my hopes for his character arc.
We laugh about this line because Hyrule has what is considered the hardest game. Oh you sweet summer child. You complicated, pixilated little hero. Do you know what you've done? That's why I associate these lyric's with Hyrule's character
I want to take shelter, but I'm ready, ready to fight Somewhere in the middle, I feel a little paralysed Maybe I'm stronger Than I realize
Like Legend Hyrule lives in the fallen hero timeline. That's caused some serious problems for his kingdom. But unlike Legend, Hyrule seems to be open and friendly.
Is it courage or faith To show up every day? To trust that there will be light Always waiting behind Even the darkest of nights
It takes real courage to live in a dying world and still love it and it's people.
Seven - There was never any doubt in my mind that Seven was Wild's song. Some of these were difficult to nail down but not Seven and Wild. This song is about being restless and wanting to explore. Perfect for our Hero of the Wild
Then the song hits you with this sucker punch
But I want to be here Truly be here To watch the ones that I love bloom And I want to make room To love them through, and through, and through, and through The slow and barren seasons, too
Twilight has pointed out the Wild should talk to his Zelda about who he used to be and who he is now. But that means looking to the past and he's can't bring himself to do that yet. Instead seeing his life as two different people. The before and after.
Eight - I mentioned that I flipped flopped on choosing Time or Legend for this song but I finally decided that this is more Legend's song. Truth be told Eight could have been just about any Link's song. It's such a protagonist song. It's my favorite :)
Jojo has draw a picture of Legend with Marin and he looks so happy and playful. Something we don't see with the group.
But I can't let you see all that I have to lose All I've lost in the fight to protect it I can't let you in, I swore never again I can't afford to let myself be blindsided
He was open and loved once before but then he lost it. Not only lost it but had to be the one to destroy it himself, confront that maybe this happiness was never real to begin with. Now he's withdrawn and cynical. Legend is still all in on being a hero. (Unlike Time he's not looking to settle down.) But he wont be opening his heart anytime soon.
Can we talk about this panel from the bet
Are you talking about Time or yourself?
I'm standing guard, I'm falling apart And all I want is to trust you Show me how to lay my sword down For long enough to let you through
I can't wait to see his brother's break through that hard exterior and see the kind and empathetic person underneath. We see flashes of it.
(Memories is a gold mine for everyone's characterization, just saying.) He's emotional mature enough to know where to really lay the blame. I hope he can help Wild see that. But I think to really get through to Wild he'll need to be emotional vulnerable and he's not prepared for that yet.
But in the end Legend is a hero through and through. Since he was 11 he's been The Hero and he shows no sign of stopping.
I'ma shake the ground with all my might And I will pull my whole heart up to the surface For the innocent, for the vulnerable And I'll show up on the front lines with a purpose
He's grumpy and cynical but still a hero.
Nine - By process of elimination Wind is number Nine. I'm not really happy with this one but none of the songs really fit Wind . So I decided to speculate about Wind's future. Wind and Tetra are supposed to reestablish the Kingdom of Hyrule, a daunting task for a 13/14 year old. No wonder he admires the kings of Hyrule so much
Wake up Fall in love again Wage war on gravity There's so much Worth fighting for You'll see Another domino falls Either way
Quite the opposite of Wild , Wind is always looking to the past to build the future.
This ended up being longer than I thought it would be but I also didn't even talk about half my feeling when it comes to this album and Linked Universe. IDK how that possible. But I've said enough and I just needed to share my thought. And you guys should totally listen to the album.
#linked universe#lu warriors#lu twilight#lu time#lu sky#lu four#lu hyrule#lu wild#lu legend#lu wind#sleeping at last#song analysis#enneagram
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[Spy x Family Chapter 86 Spoilers] What I believe Twilight's unfinished thought would have been.
"...Which is why-- I'll make a world where that won't need to be true."
Twilight has built up this reputation of being the perfect spy who can put aside emotion and feeling for the sake of the mission. Yet with Operation Strix, it's the first time that a sliver of his real self behind the Twilight identity he has became, buried deep within his subconscious, is forced to shine. And it's this dim light peering through the walls of his heart that, for the first time in his career as a spy, inadvertently ends up helping his mission. Operation Strix progresses when the hint of real feeling is allowed to take control. He's so used to being the perfect spy who never gets anything wrong and never lets his emotions guide him. Yet, when he acts as Twilight, the man who puts his goals above all else, it strains the relationship between himself and Anya and Yor, and by consequence, the mission.
There's a reason Yor's smiling face is front and center in the panel. He's thinking about her. The mission to capture Winston Wheeler is the first time Twilight gets close to acknowledging that she has affected him. But he's never able to outright say it, because if he did, then that would completely shatter the mask he's worked so hard to maintain. Yet, instead of unpacking the Pandora's box that are his feelings, in his conversation with Nightfall, he re-frames his decision to avoid the reality that the Twilight mask is slipping.
It's at this point that even if Twilight himself doesn't recognize it yet, it's clear he's fallen for Yor. The Yor who is incredibly dense. The Yor who is a terrible cook. The Yor who gets easily flustered; who doesn't understand how to be "normal". That Yor.
Twilight has been with countless women for the sake of missions before. Undoubtedly, he's been with some of them far longer than he has with her. They're certainly not perfect either. So what makes Yor so special? It's because, for the first time in his life, he's able to be his real self, even if partially. And that is terrifying for him. He believes it's a weakness, and in a lot of ways, he has a point. His job is too dangerous for letting his feelings get in the way. And yet, it's those feelings of his that help him advance Operation Strix.
He doesn't want the imperfectly perfect Yor who means too much to him now to go. He will build a better world for her sake.
#spy x family#twiyor#loid x yor#agent twilight#sxf yor#sxf loid#loid forger#yor forger#spy x family manga#sxf manga#twilight goes through a lot of character development in this chapter.#twiyor is 100% canon you cannot change my mind#spy x family theory#spy x family analysis
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This is one of those moments where Twilight Princess feels like a modern (for the time) successor to Ocarina of Time. Not in the superficial ways that everyone cites, but by using the camera to flesh the subtext of Link's emotions.
I wish I had screenshots of it, but I'm thinking of the scene in OoT where Link returns to the Sacred Forest Meadow as adult and the camera lingers on the stump where Saria used to be. The camerawork serves an obvious purpose: make sure the player knows Saria is missing. But it also serves to give a glimpse into what Link is thinking. He is dwelling on the fact that his friend is not where he expected her to be. He feels the passage of time, that things which used to be certain no longer are. This is something that would be lost if the camera didn't behave the way it did.
Twilight Princess is a lot more generous than OoT generally when it comes to showing Link's emotions. It may be due to the limit on his facial expressions as a wolf, but it is difficult to parse what he is feeling here at first. But the camera could have focused on Colin the whole time. Instead, after he says his bit, it switches to Link. It reminds the player that Link is there, but it is also telling the player to think about what Link is feeling while he witnesses this.
(actually, my screenshots don't do justice to the scene because after Colin says the first bit, the other characters silently react in their own ways before he finishes and the camera switches to Link)
Midna says something afterward to the effect of "wow, sure sucks that your friends don't even know you're there and won't remember that you saved them." And yeah, maybe that is exactly what Link is thinking. But Midna is also an unreliable narrator, at least in the beginning. She's selfish and looks down on Link for being as kind and selfless as he is. She might be projecting onto him. What if that's what she would feel if she were in Link's position?
I think there's truth in what she says, but I think Link has more going on up there here. He reflecting on how he is watching his timid young friend hold onto hope and comfort a girl who is normally not particularly kind to him. He's proud of Colin, but is upset that he can't show it. Plenty of other times in the game, Link shows his affection for Colin through just a simple smile, which the younger Ordon kids hardly afford him. Link wants to smile at Colin, but even if he could be seen, he would be a terrifying beast to him. But hey, maybe I'm projecting.
#zelda#the legend of zelda#my own#zelda analysis#twilight princess#hero of twilight#twilight princess hd#cooper's captures#zelda colin#zelda beth#wolf link
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Loid "Cannot be separated to his wife without missing her for even just a couple of minutes/hours" Forger
This man didn't even touched his cake since he's waiting for his wife to come back so they can eat the cake together while Anya is already devouring her piece 😂😂 It's sweet for him to have this habit that he eats when Yor eats as well. What a husband attitude. And did you see how he defended Yor's innocence in this chapter?
He always gets so defensive when it comes to Yor, since Camilla's party, he defended her in front of her coworkers, in the Eden interview when Swan badmouthed her ability as a mother, he defended her and he was genuinely upset with the way Swan embarrassed his wife, when Nightfall said that Yor's being uncooperative and she should be replaced as his wife, his tone and glare changes into a defensive demeanor. Loid always comes to her defense without missing a beat, and he wasn't calculating those reactions, he did these without the mission on his mind.
This man is already slowly falling in love with her from the very beginning and I think by the time Yor's secret would be revealed to him, not even her real identity as a killer would stop him from being with her for he's already and irrevocably down bad for her
#spy x family#spy x family manga#loid forger#twilight#sxf manga#yor forger#twiyor#sxf spoilers#sxf manga spoilers#sxf analysis#loidyor#sxf chapter 94#spy x family manga spoilers#This chapter was such a twiyor tease haha#Ohh there's one room but oh there are two beds hnggg#Twilight loves his wife so much your honor#Not even his for the mission line could defend him at this point#I feel like Endo is really cooking something between these two#His denial is just sinking him deeper into his feelings
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The Holy Trinity : project "Apple", "Eden" academy and "Garden"
In Genesis, the apple from the Garden of Eden is most commonly known as the fruit of knowledge and, to this day, we know Project Apple created experiments such as Anya (mind reader) and Bond (future seer). I'd say reading minds and seeing the future count as being "very knowledgeable".
Meanwhile Eden Academy is an elite school, represented by an apple on the students' uniform, in which parents of specific elite children (Imperial Scholars) have secret meetings (which Donovan has access to, thanks to Demetrius).
Also, as we know, Donovan studied there (and at some point gained telepathic powers too) and Henderson's flashback also taught us that there was a lot of war propaganda in the school back then :
Lastly, there is Garden, a secret organization, more of a legend even to a spy like Twilight, but who has super strong (no mental inhibitors ?) and probably indoctrinated soldiers, like Yor, working for them.
Eden Academy used to be pro-war and is today one of Ostania's most elite schools, super secret Project Apple wants world peace (probably meaning for Ostania to be in charge of that "peace")...
and Garden, a seemingly Ostanian organization, desires "to keep this world beautiful".
The link between all 3 can probably be summed up as "knowledge is power", which also sums up Twilight's entire mission as a spy for Westalis, trying to know what war Ostania (via Desmond who is confirmed to be able to read minds) is planning.
Lastly, the fact Anya's powers may be related to the use of classical language, a dead language most likely only taught in elite schools like Eden nowadays, is one more argument linking Eden academy (knowledge) and Project Apple (intellectual power).
As for Garden, they seem to specialize in physical prowess but if Yor's strength was indeed enhanced, surely it required a good amount of specific knowledge to unlock her mental inhibitors (and then to indoctrinate her).
(I'd also like to point out that Garden describing the world as a "beautiful place to protect" makes even more sense considering they probably took in several war orphans like Yor and made them "useful".)
TL;DR we don't know entirely how yet, but surely there is a link between Garden, Eden Academy and Project Apple and, according to Project Apple who wants "world peace", surely that can only mean war.
#spy x family#anya forger#donovan desmond#yor forger#garden#henry henderson#sxf theory#sxf110#my analysis#considering all that stuff about Yor's strength being enhanced i can't help but think about Bill Watkins since he's the army's general's so#also since it seems Donovan's powers are recent (got them as an adult) i'd bet he doesn't hear/read thoughts as well as Anya#bc as a child Anya probably mastered the coding language (aka probably classical language) behind her powers better than an aging adult#all that to say : all hail Henderson as a positive educating figure#Twilight has much to learn from him
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beyond "pup and cub": analyzing twilight and wild's relationship
beloved by most, twilight and wild's relationship is one of the pillars of linked universe. the two brothers, closer than anyone else in the chain, who trust and keep each other in check. even before the events of jojo's comic, these two links knew each other from the same quest.
right? in some aspects... wrong.
(one extra note before we start, considering everything that goes through the fandom on a regular basis: this is not a trope-bash. sure, their fanon relationship isn't everyone's cup of tea (it sure isn't mine), but my goal is to share an analysis based strictly on canon, nothing but real observations and the honest truth.)
for the sake of everyone's dashes, this will be under a readmore but it's a really important read for the entire fandom so i implore you to click through.
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it's well-established canon that wolfie was a major part of wild's journey. even though wild never knew that the wolf was a fellow link, he trusted the "blue-eyed beast" with his life.
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on what could be twilight's deathbed, wild tells him, "you've got so much to live for". he then reminisces back to his own quest, and the wolf he knew then. there's something crucial to note there, which the fandom did spot when the comic was released;
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during the events of botw, wolfie was old. really old. grizzled and shaggy, a rusted chain shackled to his paw that was eventually removed. compared to twilight's wolf form we see in lu, we can make the conclusion that wild is telling twilight that he needs to live for his own future.
wild knows twilight before they meet in lu. twilight does not.
by the time i finally post this, there is even more canon evidence besides these panels. justification has been a long time in the making, and i've been drafting this post since february. we'll get to the additional waves of evidence later on, but for now, let's do a major reset analysis of their relationship throughout lu so far.
twilight gives reasonable advice to wild:
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twilight doesn't scold wild for wanting to kill for the sake of it? wild doesn't sneak off and hunt his own game? absolute blasphemy... but it's canon.
mutual praise/bonding:
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after trying twilight's soup recipe, wild doesn't even have any hard feelings.
everybody loves a brotherly hug :)
mutual respect/bonding:
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notice the lack of pushed boundaries, even when the two get on each others' nerves. wild and twilight tease more openly than some of the others, but wild is good at backing off.
instead of rolling his eyes or telling everybody how "stupidly dangerous" it is to nock three arrows at once, twilight simply smiles as he watches wild demonstrate his cool technique.
twilight choosing not to scold wild:
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that's right, folks: twilight respects wild as a person with his own agency. it's not wild's fault that he can only scavenge weak blades, and nobody was thinking rationally during the fight with the iron knuckle.
twilight scolding wild:
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that's not to say that twilight always holds back. yes, he isn't pleased with having to track him down, or taking a dangerous hit to the face, or wild's... interesting way to use his swords. wild stands up for himself, though, and twilight still respects that.
the word you've all been waiting for:
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yes, i know how to admit when i was wrong. the word 'protege' has been used to describe wild's relationship to twilight. but don't get so smug yet- this hasn't been said in canon, and what jojo specifically says is that wild is "unofficially" twilight's protege. it's pretty clear that their relationship isn't defined by the boundaries of mentor-protege, and even if it was, there's no sign of the unhealthy power imbalance that is found so frequently in fandom.
brotherly teasing:
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this style of teasing is commonplace in lu canon. i'd be surprised if i saw this much lighthearted banter from a "mentor twilight" who thinks that wild is a feral infant, or a "protege wild" who is rightfully scared of the short-tempered twilight's every move.
backstory stuff:
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twilight is still trying to figure out how to approach being there for wild. he doesn't know as much as wild thought he does, so he relies on relatability with his own story.
sunset + moving forward
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and so we return to this panel in its entirety, and additional proof of what i wanted to say all the way back in february. i think wild says it all perfectly himself; he's used to twilight guiding him from afar, letting him make his own decisions and mistakes. this may be something that both of them have to (re)learn during this adventure, but wild knows what he needs and how to communicate it.
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i'll leave the analysis here. it's been a long time in the making and quite frankly i've forgotten any additional points i would have made. i'm a member of the patreon so i am tempted to wait yet again... but maybe, those who made it to the end of my post will look at wild and twilight with new eyes themselves.
never stop inventing headcanons, but i think it's important to take a step back and reevaluate what we've accepted as the truth every once in a while.
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