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big-ball-o-twine · 3 months ago
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The thing is, Viktor and Five were close as children, but as adults? They are never on the same page, they are barely even in the same book. Every time that Viktor needs him, Five is somewhere else; every time that Five asks for his help, Viktor turns him away. And Viktor was alone and isolated as a child in part because Five left him there; and Five spent 45 years trapped and alone in the apocalypse because Viktor killed their family and created that wasteland.
Their interactions always feel so heavy and I think the choice to have Five walk away from Viktor at the end of season 3 was extremely interesting for what it said about the state of their relationship, and then it went nowhere but we don’t talk about that.
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big-ball-o-twine · 5 months ago
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I do also think it’s possible to interpret fake!Ben as patronizing/pitying Viktor in that scene. “He can’t remember anything. He’s just not ready for this.” Beneath the concern, fake!Ben is saying that Viktor is incapable, that he can’t handle remembering.
This hallucination isn’t about reality, it’s about Viktor’s perception of how each of his siblings views him. And Viktor has a huge chip on his shoulder, about the way his siblings treat him. He believes that the others view him as less—less important, less capable, less special—because of his lack of power. He has a whole rant about how they are all holier-than-thou, self-righteous, arrogant assholes as a result of their abilities.
And so, in season one, when Ben says that “To go on a mission, Viktor, you have to have a power”, it pisses Viktor off so much that he blows up their house (lmao). Ben’s statement here is so innocuous, and yet, Viktor’s insecurities make him assume the worst. He doesn’t hear what Ben likely meant, ie “it is dangerous to go on a mission without a power”, he hears “you don’t have a power, you aren’t special enough to go on a mission like the rest of us.” And this fuels his rampage.
And now again, in the version of his family that exists in his head—Fake!Ben doesn’t think Viktor can handle it. “Stop bullying poor, powerless Viktor, guys, he can’t help it (he’s not special like us).”
You’ll notice that when Actual Ben gets on the scene, he’s singing a very different tune. He doesn’t act like Viktor’s helpless or useless. He tells Viktor that he can handle his own anger, that he can control himself, that he can do this. And that is what uplifts Viktor and stops the apocalypse. Not fake!Ben’s pity, but Actual Ben’s belief and trust.
One thing I’ve noted from 2x8 when Viktor’s drugged is that Ben is much nicer to him than his other siblings.
I think this can mean two things:
1. Ben treated him quite nicely during their childhood.
2. Grief has left Viktor with tinted glasses.
Or you know? A bit of both.
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sixisnotaprettynumber · 2 months ago
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Let Ben Hargreeves be an imperfect person.
Let him nag people to death as he sits on his moral high horse. Let him be snarky and bitter and jealous of the fact that he never got to live his life. Let him be immature and refuse to admit his own faults. Let him be frustrated with Klaus because he made the choice to stick around and not go into the light. Let him fail at being the voice of reason because honestly he’s been dead for seventeen years and doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Let him be a condescending, selfish hypocrite who is desperate for control. Let him be the type of person who hates losing. Let him call his siblings “narcs” and “narcissists” when he doesn’t agree with them. Let him be the type of scummy jerkwad that starts a crypto scam and helps his brother start a cult. Let him act like a miserable little pessimist who hates not getting his way. Let him be utterly pathetic and awkward and just kinda suck.
Let him be a Hargreeves.
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river-o-lethe · 2 months ago
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Ben Hargreeves + Being a Nag/Worry ft. Klaus (pt. 1)
“The Umbrella Academy: Young Blood” by Alyssa Sheinmel
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kaybreezy3000 · 5 months ago
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Old sketches art dump
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No time to make new stuff lately, so I figured I might as well put out some of my pre-digital attempts at drawing Five and just learning to draw people in general. Before drawing him, I'd only painted landscapes. 😂 These are not great, but here they are anyway.
Link to my other Tumblr art/story posts
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big-ball-o-twine · 2 years ago
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Tbf Five’s talk with Viktor didn’t have anything to do with his control over his powers. Five isn’t saying Viktor is inherently dangerous because of his powers—he’s saying Viktor is dangerous because of the choices he makes.
“It means you're very dangerous, Viktor Hargreeves. The decisions you make impact the entire world. So no matter how benevolent they may seem, you don't get to make them alone.”
I think Five is a bit harsh here (as per usual), but I don’t think he’s off-base. Viktor has made several short-sighted/emotional decisions that have caused so much unintentional harm, especially when you consider things from Five’s perspective. I don’t think it’s crazy to start asking for some accountability from Viktor—which is basically what Five was trying to do in that conversation in his stilted, unsocialized, assassin way.
anyway I'm tired of the "viktor is dangerous and has no self control" narrative. once he figured out he had powers he got them under control fairly quickly 😭. the first apocalypse was bc he was forced cold-turkey off a life long tranquilizer and was going through severe withdrawal while also being re-traumatized. the second apocalypse was bc he was strapped down, drugged up to his teeth with hallucinogenics, and electrocuted for what seemed to be an extended period of time. season 3 is literally the FIRST time we see him fully sober and aware of his powers and what happens? he's heartbroken and stressed, and then his sister murders his son and tells him he deserved being locked up in his childhood torture chamber. and does he explode and cause another apocalypse over that? no, he leaves the room and takes a minute to cool off. doesn't even burst a light bulb or anything! that's INCREDIBLE self control if you ask me. Mr. Five "I'll kill you myself" Hargreeves this post is directed @ you
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kaitlinamberxo · 6 months ago
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“Face it, the healthiest long-term relationship in this family was when Five was banging that mannequin.”
kaitlin's 100 favorite fictional muses — 59/100: Klaus Hargreeves
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monkey-overalls · 4 months ago
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As many critiques as I have about TUA season four, “Map of the Problematique” is by far one of the best needle drops in the entire series and no I will not be taking any criticism.
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badkitty3000 · 6 months ago
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what kind of clothes do you think five would like on his s/o?? what casual clothes would he like for himself?? ik we saw a bit in s3 but i need more vest five😭😭
So, as usual, I feel like I can go a couple different ways with this answer, but I'm going to mostly focus on my own personal headcanon version or we're going to be here all day. In my own little Five world, he's a uniform guy. He wore a uniform as a kid in the academy, he wore a (I assume) company-issued suit in the Commission, again with the academy uniform, and then when he actually had a bit of a choice he got to relax in his retirement clothes for about 12 hours before it was back to business again, and then...suit. So, to me, this is just easier for him. He doesn't have to think about what to wear every day, matching colors, and shopping for new clothes. He is stylish, yet practical, and it's clear that looking put together is a priority for him. After wearing whatever he could get his hands on in the apocalypse, and having to dress for extreme weather, it's probably a luxury for him to be able to dress the way he wants. But there's also a second, very important reason for this headcanon of mine and that is....HAVE YOU SEEN HIM IN A FUCKING SUIT!!???
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*wiping drool off my chin* Sorry, I don't know what came over me.
Ok, as I was saying...it is also a headcanon of mine that once he's finally settled down, maybe married, has a family, etc, his casual outfits consist of jeans and a plain black t-shirt. This is his new "uniform" and again, it's stylish but he doesn't have to think about it. He wears this every day, unless he's going out somewhere nice or maybe having to perform a random assassination, then it's back to the suit. (also, if you're wondering, and I'm sure you are...black boxer briefs...always).
Now, retirement Five in his little hat and vest is adorable, don't get me wrong, and is much more in line with his character's age and personality than how I write him. I could totally see him embarrassing his kid by showing up to their softball game in black socks and sandals, wearing his dorky weird old-man glasses.
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I could also see him wearing a sweatshirt with the name of his kid's school on the front and "Hargreeves" on the back. Oh my god, let's just stop and imagine that for a moment, shall we?😭😭😭
You also asked about what he would like his s/o to wear. I covered this a little in my nsfw headcanons, but I'll elaborate a little more. I definitely think he checks ladies out. Dancers, strippers, random women at the grocery store; I think deep down Five is a sex-starved freak that has a lot of lost time to make up for. However, even though a nice body and skimpy clothes is going to catch his attention, that's not really what he cares about. He would be just as happy with his girl in frumpy sweatpants and a baggy t-shirt as he would be with her in a tight cocktail dress. Now, given the choice, if you were really going to press him on it, I'd say he would want to see her in a tight skirt that shows off her ass and tall heels to accentuate her legs. But again, it doesn't really matter what she wears, he's going to think she's the prettiest/sexiest woman on the planet regardless. And ketchup-stained sweatpants and a Garfield shirt are just as easy to tear off and throw on the floor as a tight dress is. 😉
I do think Five would take time and try and find and buy something for his s/o for her birthday or Christmas that he knows she would like. He would pay attention to her style and if he was out somewhere and came across an outfit, or hat and scarf, or even lingerie that reminded him of her, he'd buy it and then watch expectedly and nervously as she opened it in front of him. Then he would be so happy every time she would wear it, even though he'd pretend he was too cool to notice. He took the time to make sure Dolores was going to get a new outfit and knew she liked sequins, so that just proves he actually pays attention to what his girl likes.
In conclusion, I think Five wants to be stylish, comfortable, and practical with his clothes, while not having to think too hard about it on a daily basis. He has much more pressing matters to deal with, and even though wearing a three-piece suit while trying to kick ass and save the world is a bit impractical...
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I MEAN GOOD LORD JUST LOOOOK!!!! 🫦👀💀
Thank you so much for this question! ❤️
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clarkgriffon · 4 months ago
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2 episodes into TUA S4 and i have not hit the point yet where i am getting the critical backlash on the season. it might come later but so far i've been very pleasantly surprised! they've done well with keeping the hargreeves together as a family unit which i think was one of their largest struggles in s2 and ESPECIALLY s3
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big-ball-o-twine · 5 months ago
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I wish they had leaned into the fact that the s4 universe was made by Reginald. Beyond him just nebulously being super rich, I mean. As in, he misses certain technology from his home planet and so there are now flying cars and communicators for no explained reason. There is now a subpopulation of intelligent chimps living in the West End. He hates caffeine so coffee no longer exists. This last detail is what makes Five go on a homicidal murder spree. Do you understand my vision.
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someominousecho · 5 months ago
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MUSE SONG IN TUA??? IM LOSING MY GODDAMN MIND
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averagemansoup · 5 months ago
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my review of TUA season 4 as someone who stopped enjoying it after season 1:
i have never better understood the meaning of a car wreck you can’t look away from and i did not have a good time. but there was muse in the final episode so ill take that as a win.
worst part: essentially every attempt at humor was horribly placed in just an awkward way
best part: map of the problematique you did it girl you made it into a show and what a good job you did i’m so proud of you
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cloudybrews · 21 days ago
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( open to all )
A simple pop and teenage ( what seem to be ) a teen appeared out of no where dress in seem to be school clothing.
A large suitcase in hand that seem to big. He put it on the ground gave it kick before muttering .
" No No No No No" he groans. “This isn't right.. stupid suitcase" he mumbles shaking his head.
He finally notice you and raised eyebrow “ who are you, where am I and do you have coffee “ he asked in somewhat rush.
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river-o-lethe · 2 months ago
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“Foreclosure” - Robert Sheehan (You Look Like Death by Gerard Way & Gabriel Bá)
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sixisnotaprettynumber · 2 months ago
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ESOEMOEHOED by Leanna Firestone
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