#transmisogny cw

[oathofkaslana]

#im incredibly wary of the last one though im scared that theyre doing it mostly for shock or comedy#ive also seen people use the otto one in particular to be transphobic which pisses me off so much for multiple reasons

i don't even think the person who said this played hi3 btw. they didn't even get the fucking context right. they said that "theres canonically a man who cross dresses because he's in love with a lesbian" AND THATS NOT FUCKING TRUE!!! they're referring to an old non-canonical valentines day event that had both himeko and otto cross dressing. otto's description did talk about him dressing up bc "kallen only seems to be interested in women" which is awful but its not canonical. moreover, the art used for otto crossdressing was similar to a page in the manhua elan palatinus WHERE HE WAS CROSSDRESSING AS A DISGUISE TO DISTRACT GUARDS SO THAT KALLEN COULD SNEAK IN SOME PLACE!!!!!!!! HE DIDNT CROSS DRESS THEN BC HE WAS INTERESTED IN KALLEN HE JUST WANTED TO HELP HER BC THEYRE BEST FRIENDS. YOU DUMB BITCH!!!!!!!!!

[braixen]

once i blocked a mutual on here for being transmisogynistic and a day later she made a post about how she hates people “slapping labels on a woman with opinions” and how that’s “not progressive” like girl…JHSBJHSRJRN

[punkpuppylove]

i’ve only seen this once but it was still so upsetting i had to make a post about it. but Hey, maybe Don’t tag posts where you are trying to honor a murdered trans women with “terfblr” or “terf safe” or “radfem” or anything else like that. do not invite and call in people who are going to hate, shame on, and degrade the death of a trans women who was the victim of anti trans violence. she couldn’t get safety and peace in life and now your calling on humiliation in death. your not being an ally. your not being respectful. your not making a good memorial. just...what the actual fuck.

[fafefae]

tf they gonna call themselves "the queerest place on the internet" when they doing this shit LMFAOOOOO.

thought they needed a little reminder that they still have far more to lose if they double down on this stupidity. spread the word, it seems they're... very forgetful about this.

[wolfertinger666]

normally I avoid this type of behavior with the post above but die mad. LOL

you can't just tell transgender people how to draw their own characters especially if those said characters are known to bring comfort to other people *and* the artist. this is genuinely the most batshit insane comment I've EVER gotten. go fuck yourself forever. idc.

[gor3sigil]

Yo, I saw your post about trans dudes not gendering hobbies and I want to cosign it real hard

I'm a cis dude (or whatever... wrote that long ask the other day, so you see the whatever). I do stuff like wood carving... at some point I'd like to get into blacksmithing (and a million other things)

Are those masculine hobbies? What a weird thing to even ask, they're just themselves

Carving is carving, everyone should do it

I also want to pick up the skills to make my own clothes some day. Would that be masculine if I call it tailoring or feminine if I call it sewing? It's in fact just a good skill

And I mean Doki Doki is a great game, never played it, just watched it, but what fantastic characters. Liking it isn't gendered, you're right that there's nothing wrong with you

You know, I got into MLP back in like 2011... man... people just can't... eh... no I feel you hard on how it was for you though, cause while I still really love it, I haven't watched it in years, not cause of shame or something but just cause the infinite posts on here about guys who watch it all being creeps kinda sapped my ability to enjoy it

Great show though, still recommend it, just lost my own personal ability to enjoy it other than the occasional fan art

Point is with all of this, none of it effects your gender. Shows aren't gendered, hobbies aren't gendered. Things like make up or what kinda clothes you want to wear aren't gendered

Welding, knitting a baby onesie, blue and pink, dresses or overalls... none of this has gender. Men, women, trans, cis, anyone no matter who they are, how they identify... they all belong equally in all these things... what matters is if it's a good fit for you, there's no such thing as you having to fit the right boxes for it

Easier said than done sometimes to not care what other people thing, especially if it would put you at risk; but from an internal point of view, and from how much you should value others opinions on this... do what you like, and people who don't like it can piss off

But yeah, just saw that post and wanted to weigh in

The stuff I said is true for everyone, but bring it around towards trans men in particular, there's no right way to be a trans man. You're you, you're a trans dude... job done

You get to decide what it looks like for you, but none of this stuff is gendered. You could be the most masculine guy in make up, or you could do the daintiest welding in the most feminine way, but that's just you bringing your own style to it; and just like none of these hobbies are gendered, neither is being a trans guy

Like if you're a masculine trans guy that's great, but if you're real feminine that's great too. That's stuff's just the flavoring for how you're you, none of it's what makes you a guy

I hope you have a nice day

Thank you for your input and I totally agree with everything you said !

It sucks that you can't enjoy MLP like you used to... But yeah, there's a big stigma around "masc looking" people with "fem aligned (to society's standards" hobbies and interests. Like I said in my post, I'm a huge anime fan and I've seen so many cis men get shit for being creeps because they had like their favourite female characters from an anime or manga as their phone wallpaper, or because they had figures and posters, for people it can only be for "gross, NSFW purposes" when it's just people enjoying fictional characters.

And I hate when you say that and people are like "well IF the men in fandoms weren't ALWAYS CREEPS" and it's like: you're talking about the loudest crowd, not the majority. I'm not a big fan of fandoms in general because people tend to be too intense about the media, for me at least. But that's the point of a fandom and there's good and bad in it. It's not a gender thing.

I remember watching a little video about the MLP fandom and finding some things that came out of it like the huge conventions and fanfic and overall creativity so so great !! and then the youtuber introduced the more NSFW, weird part of the fandom and said "I think that the reason why men tend to sexualized fictional characters in shows and any medias is because it's the only way they ever learned to enjoy female characters. As a girl, I can relate to the characters that are girls because they experience similar things to me, but to men, the only relatable and enjoyable thing they can possibly get out of a female character isn't the way she's written, the things she goes through, it's just the sexual gratification she can give."

And I don't have words strong enough to say how APALLED I was by this statement like, do you hear yourself, fr ?!

But anyways, there's still a long road ahead of us for people to just be normal about men liking "unconventional" things. Or to just de-gender things in general, really.

[the-owl-tree]

legoshi proudly exclaiming he has a fetish for herbivores is a big character moment where he starts to embrace himself but dressing like a woman is where it needs to play it up as a joke? yeah beastars?

i know it really isn't that shocking with how deeply ingrained transmisogyny is but i guess in a series like beastars which placed so much emphasis on being yourself and finding connections in others (with legoshi even imagining his jojo stand as a rabbit) it is still wild to me they did a man in a dress joke. it just feels so counter intuitive to what the series is about.

[januscorner]

I’m angry, credit me if you use

[thechadmaryy]

Ain't no way they did the thing

[undedkat]

I fucking hate how we hold trans women to these ungodly standards like trans women have to be perfect in order to exist in society and the moment one trans woman ends up being a bad person people point and say that all trans women are like that.

There’s terrible people in every demographic in the world why are we so unfair to trans women specifically.

[sunnycycle]

FOR CONTEXT: J.K R0wl!ng is a shit person. She is an awful transphobe, specifically towards trans women. Grian's whole gimmick this season with the mending book manifestation area (I am NOT saying the name on purpose) is a whole h-rry p0tter thing.

Grian is not transphobic. But H-rry p0tt3r is triggering for many trans people, especially with all the anti-trans shit going on. Op is trans and is rightfully triggered by these references.

I know Grian isnt doing it on purpose but jesus fucking christ. I wish creators were more awear of this.

hp reference on stream... yay. why am i surprised.

[pointless-discourse]

hs diet/cooking skills headcandons :3

what would they eat. i prommy im not scrambling for ideas, i am being fully genuine when i say i think about (the majority) of these a lot. disregarding my trans hcs for consistency and to try to reign in my fanon perception and keep it at least semi-accurate

content warning for disordered eating

JOHN EGBERT

eats very well, if a little heavy on the sweets just based on how many are in his vicinity. his dad loves baking. there will be baked goods. despite how sick he gets of sugar, he's gonna nibble.

however, i'm sure his dad knows how to cook and passed that onto john, at least how to follow a recipe

i think john would be a recipe follower most of the time tbh

living with nanna on the ship wouldn't significantly alter his skills

maybe with all that free time he'd start to improv more in the kitchen?

anyway, he is a good cook and is probably going to end up cooking for his disaster friends a lot because he is a charming young man

well not really? like he'll be on it in a pinch if he's asked too, or immediately reminded that his friends can't fucking cook, but she, in typical egbert fashion, will remain doing her own thing a lot of the time

charming young june gets tradwife'd ig

fuck i transed her . oopsie

DAVE STRIDER

we've seen that his fridge is full of smuppets and he hides his food, so his stash is small and is made up of foods that don't need to be refrigerated

texan heat is def a catalyst for that rot

his stash is also made of cheap, low quality food, because i doubt he's getting a lot of money

just an assortment of non-ingredient food like apples and mcdonands

this is on the hypothesis that bro gives dave food money or dave's somehow monetized his skills

if bro is providing this food, it's probably semi-often paywalled behind weird shit or swordfights

TLDR: he likely doesn't have a consistent supply either. enough to sustain some muscle so he can live up to what we've seen in comic, but he's underweight

you think he'll learn to cook on the meteor? wrong. why learn to cook when you can alchemize? what's the point of alchemizing the ingredients for a PB&J and then assemble it when you can just magic up a sandwich?

he cannot cook. he will burn the water. the only appliance he can use is a microwave, and that is iffy in itself because, until he gets the hang of it, will leave a slightly lukewarm hamburger in there for ten minutes

JADE HARLEY

plants. a lot of plants.

freshest thing near her. everything else she has to get through the airplane mail.

she'd forget to eat for a day or two, and then wonder why she's so hungry and then eat enough to feed a family of three. horses. three horess

she lost her grandpa at a young age and then was raised by a dog, so i doubt her eating habits are completely normal

she eats like a dog. jade does not use silverware because she does not like doing dishes. all food is finger food if you're not afraid.

what she eats is of very high quality. if she remembers to eat and can prepare her food correctly, she'll do fine.

on that topic, she's not a bad cook. her chem know-how would help her estimate what would work. but she's never had another person interact with her cooking, so it's lacking a lot of stuff.

research can get her cooking close to the real thing, but it's still mediocre. she doesn't even know what she's missing, because she's never known anything else.

she has a lot of weird tastes that can only come from an insane amount of time to kill. i'm talking mustard everywhere.

john and nanna might be able to reign her in a bit? they would definitely help her improve her cooking skills. watching her eat, there would still be something off about her.

however, she can cook for herself, and it tastes kinda good.

ROSE LALONDE

like john in that she had someone there who would cook for her.

mom lalonde is very absent, but she's still on top of things. she responds to rose's notes. she vaccums. she would still cook for rose on a regular basis, give or take a few off weeks.

that cooking would not be good, because she's wasted whilst making it.

even if the food was good, rose wouldn't admit it.

she often makes a show of pecking at her food, but still eats.

unlike john, mom never showed rose how to cook. rose never asked.

when she gets to the meteor, like dave, she alchemizes all the food she needs. there has never been a reason for her to learn how to cook.

she could probably put effort in and, with strife, successfully follow a recipe, but she is a horrible cook. she does not understand it for the life of her, and she won't until she studies it

she'll master it. eventually.

JANE CROCKER

like june. their upbringings are very similar.

one exception is that she cooks more and is a much better cook than she is because jane genuinely cares about it.

she also has some mad pastry skills.

jane can make macarons.

she would attempt to teach her disaster friends to cook, but would quickly lose patience.

and then she would try to cook for them, but get sick of it a meal in. they are very picky and her temper is not long

DIRK STRIDER

survives purely off rations/canned food

again, dave's food is fuel mindset extends to him and he can stomach a lot of "gross" things, like an entire can of peanut butter. i may have mentioned that before, so i'll give you some PD lore. i have eaten an entire jar of peanut butter out of hunger and i think about that event a lot because it was not nice for my tastebuds

however, i think as a control freak he would be adamant about his food schedule, even mathing out the amount of calories he would need to consume for every meal proportional to what he does in a day

and then a half-hearted attempt to balance out protiens, fats, minerals, and the other stuff

he is very adamant about his schedule and consuming the food he needs to survive, but that schedule is fucked

ex. 3 cans of canned peaches for breakfast at 3:50 in the morning. two large, burnt mutated fish for dinner at noon. no lunch. or eats half a can of peaches for the twenty hours he is awake in a day.

he can cook, as in prepare meat to be consumed alright. it's edible, and it's not that bad. but he is assed at combining ingredients. he cannot create something successful. all his food tastes like shit because he does not pick up on taste. though, i believe if he was cooking for someone else, he could set aside a few days and come up with something that's high-tier in the mediocre range.

JAKE ENGLISH

he eats only the meat of the beasts he's killed. he has scurvy.

he is a good cook (in the sense that he can competently prepare meat) though, and genuinely cares about the quality of the food he makes for the sake of his taste buds, and cooking is something he can get lost in

however: he has insane tastes. he is an expert in preparing food in this hyper-unique way that he is insane for but is absolutely disgusting to anyone else

ex. after years of eating similar tasting meat, he was motivated to use seasoning. he does not own seasoning. he is going insane and cannot eat the same thing again. he uses dirt. tastes bad, but god he is dying for something new after x years of eating the same thing for breakfast lunch and dinner. he continues to eat it because he cannot eat unseasoned meat anymore and repetition-causes-complacency's himself into genuinely enjoying the taste of dirt.

dirt is just the tip of the iceberg

jake is also unintentionally bulking (bodybuilders eat a lot of meat to gain muscle). he eats a lot of protien. however, he hasn't herd of the concept of 'cuts' (where you stop eating as much to let the muscles show) so he has a bit of a tummy

but also, he's sixteen so he's not a fridge. i also don't see him as that tall (huss draws him as shorter than dirk anyay huehuehue) but he has muscle if you look. twunk if anything

ROXY LALONDE

genuinely horrid diet

so zoned out and depressed she barely recognizes her own hunger and even then has no drive to do anything about it

will eat sugary stuff for the happy chemicals

roxy is the one trans headcanon i have where i am completely unable to distinguish it from canon

she is trans in my head. that is as much a part of her to me as her love for cats is

anyway like a lot of trans women she's pressured to be petite and small in her portion choices so even when she has the drive to eat i dont think its a lot

because of her likely not weighing a lot shes a lightweight

part one million on how is roxy not dead yet

and as expected, she cannot cook

she also has some really weird tastes

she is really good at baking a few specific sweets that she eats on repeat (with a lot of recipes from jane)

once she enters the medium and works on her drinking problem i think her eating problems would also get less intensive

not drinking as much she has to face her hunger more

and being around jane, a big gal, face to face, i think that would do something to her idea that to be a woman she has to be small

KARKAT VANTAS

troll rations

not only is he poor so no money for all the nice stuff i also dont think troll society has a big focus on cooking

their only main professions are military based and art doesn't seem to be a big focus, just a highblood thing

again probably some nasty cheap ration bars that keep him alive

but i do think he eats regularly and normal amounts, he has that fighting spirit to stay alive and get stronger

but yeah i don't think troll society would require you to put a lot of effort into culinary stuff. but he can prepare the food well

the meteor inspired no one to cook, but he'd get the hang of human food and probably enjoy it as compared to tasteless lowblood troll slop

humanstuck karkat is a kid chef. he is so fucking good at cooking. baking too.

ARADIA MEGIDO

mmmmm yummy troll slop

same as karkat

ghost aradia didnt need to eat anyway so i doubt that would've affected her diet habits

same with got tiger aradia? don't think she would bother with it, too much else to do

but once she starts hanging around in the dreambubbles, exposed to non-troll slop cusine, she'd have a fun time trying to learn how to cook and delight in all those new flavors

then when she gets to earth c she's a good cook who loves cooking

TAVROS NITRAM

i dont have any headcanons fro tavros because is hate him

sorry tavros fans

uhh he probably eats POOP!!! and LIKES IT!!! because he TAVROS!!!

SOLLUX CAPTOR

troll-slop-enjoyer, but also likes aradia's cooking

humanstuck sollux survives purely off doritos and g-fuel

NEPETA LEJION

utter chad

survives solely off the giant beasts she kills herself

ripped yet still small and nimble

her diet is entirely protein

no troll slop for her

unfortunately for her, this means missing out on non protiens and fats

nepeta has scurvy

humanstuck nepeta is less feral and also eats cute japanese cat themed sweets

KANAYA MARYAM

dont know if it was stated in canon but she would garden alongside eating troll slop

blood

yumy blood

roses blood

you would not believe it from looking at her but humanstuck kanaya eats a lot of spicy food and has a horrifically high spice tolerance

she's also pretty good at cooking, mediocre at baking

TEREZI PYROPE

?????? chalk???????

hopefully alongside the slop

either that or troll chalk is really nutritious

VRISKA SERKET

despite technically being a highblood i doubt she'd engage in their fancy food

she eats to survive, not for the taste

she may have access to higher quality sludge though

i think this part of her would persist, but she does love june's cooking

EQUIUS ZAHHAK

pure, distilled protien and milk

so much milk

its not 2%, not 3.25%, it's 100% milk

he suckles it straight from the moobeast teat

it is really weird and he does not get invited to parties

gigachad

humanstuck equius's diet is 1/4 food and 3/4 protien shakes, bars, and the like

he'd probably also be like those bodybuilding influencers who eat eggs raw or camel nutsacks

GAMZEE MAKARA

similar to roxy in that he's too checked out to remember to eat

but what he does have as a highblood is insanely high quality

sober gamzee does not require any sustenance to survive in a similar fashion as to how he got shot down by caliborn and was fine afterwards

humanstuck gamzee can bake. he cannot cook. he has the diet of an insane college student, ramen cups interspersed with weed brownies

occasionally he gets the munchies and eats enough to feed four full grown goku

i like thinking that someone realized he wasn't doing alright tried to help him, maybe roxy? in a universe where he didn't get lil cal'd

ERIDAN AMPORA

only the finest fish food for him

he dines like a king

he projectile vomits when in a 50 mile radius of the sludge

agile, but weak

doesn't cook, has other people do it for him

humanstuck eridan has a private chef and is offended if you expect him to cook for himself

FEFERI PEIXES

finest fish food for her, dines like a queen

but also attempts to live like the normies once and a while

and take a bite of the (highblood edition) slop

humanstuck fef also has a private chef but helps out in the kitchen from time to time

gonna b real dawgs, i cannot concieve of the dancestors in this manner. peace

[sapphicsundial]

Now I know I’m shadowbanned on Twitter because this should have done numbers

[velvetvexations]

(sorry for length ahead of time.)

I gave whipping girl a try, but gave up quickly because I found it so... Self content, if that makes sense? It was content with and insistent upon womanhood and victimhood being the same, and that trans women were the most victimised of all. This was presented, in my (fallible and hazy, take with grain of salt) memory, as how it's always been, how it is now (and if we follow implications, how it always will be.)

I can imagine it's very comforting for trans women to read this kind of message, especially with how masculinity (no matter how forced, uncomfortable, against one's will, or abandoned entirely) is often treated as this horrible gunk that stains one's entire being and leaves the person predatory, perverted and dangerous. To be treated this way, to be excluded, degraded, misgendered, traumatised and worse because society sees trans women as covered in this invisible gunk they never asked for and therefore tells them, over and over, ‘to be a man is to be a predator.’ makes the message that ‘to be a woman is to be a victim’… very palatable.

This kind of thinking validates the suffering trans women have gone through, and aims to say that the source of their suffering is womanhood itself. But it also means that if woman=victim, then non woman=non victim. Following that logic, not being a victim poses a threat to womanhood, and so trans women must be victims.

I struggle even to describe how deeply upsetting and cruel this logic is. That trans women should just be served up ‘you’re a woman, so you're a victim. That's how it is’ and be expected to accept and parrot it? That everyone should repeat loyally that being a victim is somehow validating a core part of womanhood?

What if I think telling trans women that they just have to accept that they are victims, because that's what womanhood is, is horrible and wrong? What if I don't want trans women to be victims in the first place? What if I don't care who has it worse, but about how we can make it better? I just... Can't stand this idea that it's more important to figure out who's suffering most, rather than figuring out how to make sure trans women have the safety, joy and freedom they deserve.

Maybe I'm insane, but for as long as I remember, feminism has been about equality. Feminism has been about women, every kind of woman, saying they refuse to be lesser, to be victims, to silently accept suffering and degradation and cruelty. I think trans women should be allowed to do the same without being called idiots, or told to read books, or that they don't know anything about their own experiences, or that they should fuck off and shut up, by people who are supposedly their allies. I think trans women should be allowed to see womanhood as happiness.

Equating womanhood to victimization and being obsessed with being the biggest victim is the root of all TERFism.

And it's like, are AMAB trans people, if one absolutely must quantify suffering, the worst off? I might have agreed albeit still insisting the difference between us and AFAB trans people can only be infinitesimal, but I'm not even sure if there's that infinitesimal difference. The victim of literally the most famous trans hate crime ever was a transman, and I know they're wildly underrepresented compared to how many of them there actually are. As I've said over and over, attacking and silencing transmen in order to favor me does not at all help me feel like the victim. In fact, it makes me feel like the privileged oppressor class.

[dunmertitty]

like even if you’re the biggest transmisogynist in the world why would you support initiatives that are meant to literally police womanhood and still have the guts to call yourself a feminist. el oh el.

like if your “feminism” is pro-police going into women’s bathrooms and arresting people who Don’t Look Right, are you actually truly pro-women?

85% of police are male and 40% of all police officers are domestic abusers. how many male police officers do you think would abuse going into women’s restrooms?

even if you hate trans women and think they’re the root of all evil or whatever the fuck. like why would you support anything that makes police target vulnerable women? do you really think police are just going to target trans women or do you think they’re going to abuse their power to target women of color, disabled women, homeless women, intersex women, butches?

are you someone who actually believes in the equal rights and liberation of ALL women? or are you someone who puts standards on women that can only be reached by the Right kind of woman.

do you really think trans women Aren’t Real Women or are you directing your misogyny at them because they’re easy targets. you’ve experienced the misogyny hurled at you by the world and are lashing out at the group of women it’s most acceptable to lash out at.

how can you see all the ways that women are oppressed by under the patriarchy and all of the double standards placed on women to be Pretty and Likable and Nice and Presentable and Hairless and Dainty and Available to men and Intelligent (but not smarter than a man) and not realize (or rather, not care) that you’re doing the same thing to trans women.

[wolfertinger666]

this is from my bluesky two days ago.