#pointlessly gendered

[gor3sigil]

Yo, I saw your post about trans dudes not gendering hobbies and I want to cosign it real hard

I'm a cis dude (or whatever... wrote that long ask the other day, so you see the whatever). I do stuff like wood carving... at some point I'd like to get into blacksmithing (and a million other things)

Are those masculine hobbies? What a weird thing to even ask, they're just themselves

Carving is carving, everyone should do it

I also want to pick up the skills to make my own clothes some day. Would that be masculine if I call it tailoring or feminine if I call it sewing? It's in fact just a good skill

And I mean Doki Doki is a great game, never played it, just watched it, but what fantastic characters. Liking it isn't gendered, you're right that there's nothing wrong with you

You know, I got into MLP back in like 2011... man... people just can't... eh... no I feel you hard on how it was for you though, cause while I still really love it, I haven't watched it in years, not cause of shame or something but just cause the infinite posts on here about guys who watch it all being creeps kinda sapped my ability to enjoy it

Great show though, still recommend it, just lost my own personal ability to enjoy it other than the occasional fan art

Point is with all of this, none of it effects your gender. Shows aren't gendered, hobbies aren't gendered. Things like make up or what kinda clothes you want to wear aren't gendered

Welding, knitting a baby onesie, blue and pink, dresses or overalls... none of this has gender. Men, women, trans, cis, anyone no matter who they are, how they identify... they all belong equally in all these things... what matters is if it's a good fit for you, there's no such thing as you having to fit the right boxes for it

Easier said than done sometimes to not care what other people thing, especially if it would put you at risk; but from an internal point of view, and from how much you should value others opinions on this... do what you like, and people who don't like it can piss off

But yeah, just saw that post and wanted to weigh in

The stuff I said is true for everyone, but bring it around towards trans men in particular, there's no right way to be a trans man. You're you, you're a trans dude... job done

You get to decide what it looks like for you, but none of this stuff is gendered. You could be the most masculine guy in make up, or you could do the daintiest welding in the most feminine way, but that's just you bringing your own style to it; and just like none of these hobbies are gendered, neither is being a trans guy

Like if you're a masculine trans guy that's great, but if you're real feminine that's great too. That's stuff's just the flavoring for how you're you, none of it's what makes you a guy

I hope you have a nice day

Thank you for your input and I totally agree with everything you said !

It sucks that you can't enjoy MLP like you used to... But yeah, there's a big stigma around "masc looking" people with "fem aligned (to society's standards" hobbies and interests. Like I said in my post, I'm a huge anime fan and I've seen so many cis men get shit for being creeps because they had like their favourite female characters from an anime or manga as their phone wallpaper, or because they had figures and posters, for people it can only be for "gross, NSFW purposes" when it's just people enjoying fictional characters.

And I hate when you say that and people are like "well IF the men in fandoms weren't ALWAYS CREEPS" and it's like: you're talking about the loudest crowd, not the majority. I'm not a big fan of fandoms in general because people tend to be too intense about the media, for me at least. But that's the point of a fandom and there's good and bad in it. It's not a gender thing.

I remember watching a little video about the MLP fandom and finding some things that came out of it like the huge conventions and fanfic and overall creativity so so great !! and then the youtuber introduced the more NSFW, weird part of the fandom and said "I think that the reason why men tend to sexualized fictional characters in shows and any medias is because it's the only way they ever learned to enjoy female characters. As a girl, I can relate to the characters that are girls because they experience similar things to me, but to men, the only relatable and enjoyable thing they can possibly get out of a female character isn't the way she's written, the things she goes through, it's just the sexual gratification she can give."

And I don't have words strong enough to say how APALLED I was by this statement like, do you hear yourself, fr ?!

But anyways, there's still a long road ahead of us for people to just be normal about men liking "unconventional" things. Or to just de-gender things in general, really.

[the-patchwork-girl-of-oz]

Boy mummies wear bandages that cover their whole bodies and have clothes over them.

Girl mummies wear bandages that cover their torsos and some sections of (but not all of) their arms and legs, and wear accessories over their bandages but no clothes.

Logic 👍

[thegoodduckfan]

Ah yes, the two genders: Sonic and Barbie...

[magnetothemagnificent]

The two genders, Christian girl and Christian kid.

[id in alt]

[sunnysam-my]

Little funny detail about men's shower gel and shampoo, because everyone always laughs how pointlessly gendered they are.

They are fucking dyed. The product itself is in vibrant colours. And women's aren't?!?!

I genuinely didn't know that women's hygiene products were just almost always white, often glittery, sometimes they are lightly coloured, but still.

Men's products are usually blue, green, orange/yellow, brown or gray. And it's very vibrant.

(Yes those are the colours of the product, not the packaging.)

The last one, the orange one, is my current gel after it has already been thinned with a bit of water, because my sis insisted I put it in the foam dispenser. Unfortunately I don't have Old Spice on me right now, but it's also strong blue.

That's how it looks in the bottle:

I can't get over this. Like, what do you mean you don't have that? It literally impossible to get a sport shower gel that's not dyed. (Also, obviously not every men's product is like that, just most of them.)

[mollyringle]

It's the same with what they name the colors of garments.

Women's: amethyst, champagne, raspberry, seafoam

Men's: urban camo, desert camo, battleship, deathbringer

[princejustwinced]

hey so i've seen my fair share of boy and girl memes (men only have x moods, me and the boys doing xyz, girlhood is xyz, etc) and lemme just say i don't think you need to be putting your gender at this point because you are both posting the exact same text with mango phoonk audio/lana del rey tumblr tag tacked on to it

[chaos-in-one]

Why is the fucking fox phone case labeled as "for girls/women"

[essefryu]

When I make a haircut appointment at my usual place online the interface forces me to choose whether I want a men's haircut or a woman's haircut. Which is the same "haircut under 25cm" service from the same master for the same price, I just need to hand in a gender as a part of the ritual. So what I usually do is choose a different option every time. Last time it was a male one, this time it was a female one. I have been going for pretty much the same style for the last year or so, but sometimes it's flowers and shopping flavoured, and sometimes it's guns and woodchopping flavoured, I guess.

Anyway, the hair clipper somehow decided to bite into my ear and cause an overdramatic bleeding today, so now I can say that, statistically speaking, the female version of my hairstyle is way more bloody and violent than the male one.

[whatname100]

I just remembered one of the stupidest gendered things that my mom got upset with me picking/preferring the male one of. And that is glasses. I liked the guys glasses section more because the colours tended to be less poppy and I just wanted something plain and unnoticeable on my face. But she insisted for years that I should be in the women's section because I'm a girl. Yes this object you need to see will not work unless you pick from this section lol

[boyenthusiast]

what the fuck is "female rage" ?? you're literally just angry. women don't have to re-label anger in order for it to be more acceptable

[transmasconamission]

Cool tip for trans guys!

If something is making you feel gender dysphoria, just be like those stupid gendered products and call it a "man ___"!

This isn't just any dress. This is a man dress. For men.

This isn't makeup. This is mankeup.

These aren't breasts, they're my manly man pecks! Maybe even my man titties!

This isn't my v*gina, this is my man p*ssy! For masculine men!

I don't have a "feminine voice". I'm just a guy with a high range!

I'm a high-waisted man, like John Mulaney!

I don't have long eyelashes. I have long guylashes!

Note: This may not work for everyone. But it works for me sometimes, and it might work for others in an emergency.

Also, this logic can apply to trans ladies too. Just replace "man" with "woman" or other feminine term.

[trans-girl-disaster]

of all things, why the fuck are multivitamins a gendered product? do different genders need different amounts of vitamins? is it based on asab or hormones? what are androgynous and intersex people supposed to do? or is it just that they support different areas of health that men and women are socially expected to care about? who decides that? why does any of this matter?

[liesaboutexistance-truthaboutman]

Men's bread

imagine

you go to the store

you buy bread and some shampoo

you arrive home

you take a shower

you use the shampoo

it burns

ah shit you picked up womens shampoo

you get out the shower

you start violently vomiting

awh shit you got bread for men

(My friend wrote a fucking poem about the fucking men's bread help, this is meant to be a serious account help me)

[syncallio]

I've always loved writing instruments. And the more I learn about them, the clearer it is that they reflect the culture and style of the era in which they were made.

This lovely pen is a Lady Sheaffer in Paisley Periwinkle from the 1960s. Several pen makers had models marketed toward women, and Sheaffer made their "lady" series look like jewelry - while naming them after fabric. You can imagine the men on the marketing team with their suits and cigars going, "Jewelry and clothes: that's what women like, right?"

Fortunately, this little stunner writes as good as it looks.

[a-url-that-exists]

urgh does anyone have music recommendations that are like, masculine. like what do cis men listen to besides country & metal bc everything i listen to right now gives me dysphoria because it's either music that's targeted at women or it's stereotypical white transmasc music.